Looked around for the last 15 minutes and couldn't find anything on it.
This would be the perfect car interface device that I have been looking for. That being said:
It doesn't support ad-hoc wifi connections so USB tethering will already be used for internet purposes inside the car.
I know there is an app for bluetooth GPS sharing but never heard of anything for USB. Since it does not appear to have bluetooth; how can we share the GPS from our phone to this device?
Any ideas?
I don't think there is such an app, and I think this usage scenario is outside what Amazon intends for this device. You'll probably be able to do it via WiFi when CyanogenMod gets released though.
EDIT: This app shows how difficult it is to do what you said via a Windows laptop, so your scenario us highly unlikely to ever be supported. You'd have to wait for a CyanogenMod port for the Kindle Fire and use TetherGPS.
No Bluetooth
I've read several articles that the Kindle Fire does not have bluetooth on board. But that is what they said about the Nook Color before somebody found it on board but deactivated and then proceeded to activate it.
With GPSD , it should be possible
Tether GPS I have used with my non bluetooth tablets
this can be done but you really need to know what you are doing.
BT is nothing more than a wireless RS-232. (usb for that matter is the same)
if you loop your phone's gps to a bt vtty and then connect the vtty to another device it could work. nontheless you also should need to work on the clint's bt profiles to get what you want.
i have done this some time ago with an windows phone but it was really nasty and painful hack.
I've e-mailed the Amazon Market folks in an attempt to get in touch with the Kindle Fire developers. TetherGPS is already on the Amazon market, and my goal is to make sure that it works with the Kindle Fire out of the gate.
If anyone knows the best way to get in touch with them, please let me know.
Thanks!
Andy
TetherGPS
Does anyone know if there is any type of compatability with controllers of any sort or any gamepads with the mini-usb port on the Kindle Fire? I know this is mainly meant for syncing with a pc, but wondering if this is at all possible or not. Am aware that bluetooth is not available at this time, hoping for an update to bluetooth in the future without actually disassembling the Fire, but oh well. I'm wanting to use some type of keyboard or controller/gamepad so that I can play Onlive, and also perhaps for a few emulators that I have also.
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Does anyone know if there is any type of compatability with controllers of any sort or any gamepads with the mini-usb port on the Kindle Fire? I know this is mainly meant for syncing with a pc, but wondering if this is at all possible or not. Am aware that bluetooth is not available at this time, hoping for an update to bluetooth in the future without actually disassembling the Fire, but oh well. I'm wanting to use some type of keyboard or controller/gamepad so that I can play Onlive, and also perhaps for a few emulators that I have also.
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I would be suprised if it had the usb drivers necessary to do this.
What do you mean by BT. Have they confirmed that BT is in the fire?
The Kindle Fire does have bluetooth capability in it, so far as I am aware. But, the original KF kernel does not support it, and Amazon hasn't made any announcements as to the support of it in the future. And you mentioned something about the drivers, is there a way to push a usb driver update through the Fire through ADB, as mine is rooted still? I read through another thread earlier about disassemblying and reverse engineering the bluetooth capabilities, I'm just simply trying to figure out if possible to use the mini usb cable to hook up to a simple gamepad. Though the usb driver does throw a wrench in the process.
Hi everyone,
I am a Kindle person who is about to own NSTwG. I was wondering if anyone has come across the idea of porting Kindle Touch software to NST (with or without Glowlight). How difficult do you think it would be? Or having an emulator that can emulate such a device.
plan: My intention was, given over time OTG support for USB 3G can be added by hackers here in this forum, one would be able to use their NST as their Kindle Touch 3G without needing to carry around the latter all the time.
Cheers
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Hi everyone,
I am a Kindle person who is about to own NSTwG. I was wondering if anyone has come across the idea of porting Kindle Touch software to NST (with or without Glowlight). How difficult do you think it would be? Or having an emulator that can emulate such a device.
plan: My intention was, given over time OTG support for USB 3G can be added by hackers here in this forum, one would be able to use their NST as their Kindle Touch 3G without needing to carry around the latter all the time.
Cheers
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Although you can get usbhost mode with NST. It won't be able to provide much power I would think. I suspect not enough for a 3g connection I would have thought without a powered hub or battery source providing additional power. Also if it did it would reduce you battery life so much it would not be worth it.
Do you not have a phone? Share your phone data 3g with NST over wifi.
You can run an older version I believe of the kindle software. If you don't get on with the app because its a bit naff you could remove DRM from your kindle books and read no a normal ereader.
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Although you can get usbhost mode with NST. It won't be able to provide much power I would think. I suspect not enough for a 3g connection I would have thought without a powered hub or battery source providing additional power. Also if it did it would reduce you battery life so much it would not be worth it.
Do you not have a phone? Share your phone data 3g with NST over wifi.
You can run an older version I believe of the kindle software. If you don't get on with the app because its a bit naff you could remove DRM from your kindle books and read no a normal ereader.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm more interested in running/emulating the KindleOS (Well... Linux) on NST... Wow, do you mean that's possible? Any pointers please.
I know there is Kindle App on Nook, you mean that or actual KindleOS?
New software updates for the Fire TV and Fire TV Stick have been rolling out since July 1st. I haven't fully analyzed them yet to uncover all the changes, but we do know that apps and games can now be marked as "Favorites" in order to bring them to the front of your app/game list. Full overview of everything that has changed to come. Let us know if you notice any changes yourself.
Fire TV version 51.1.6.0_user_516009820 - Download Link
Fire TV Stick version 54.1.2.0_user_120060220 - Download Link
Attention @rbox
Could you please check if its possible also to set sideloaded apps as favorite? THX in advance.
Still using Anroid 4.2.2 so the update is a major fail. Any updates for the Fire TV that do not run Android 4.4+ will all be failures. Sure they may fix bugs or simplify the default launcher, but til they upgrade to at least Android 4.4 aall updates wil be worthless. They can add all the featurs to the Fire TV that they want, but it will never be as good as it could be unless they ugrade to a newer version of Android. Compatibiity issues are nonsense this day in ag with Android and I am hving several comptibility issues with the Fire TV all because Amazon refuses to upgrade the Fire TV t at lest Android 4.4. A month ago when the news of fire OS 5.0 came out I predicted that the Fire TV would not be running it in ten months and I hve nine months left to prove everone wrong that said I was wrong. Wait and see, nine months from now the Fire tablets and the Fire Phone will be running FireOS 5.0, but the Fire TV will be running either 4.2.2, 4.3 or if a miracle happens it might be running Android 4.4. I love the Fire TV and I am not jumping ship, but the Fire TV can not do what it should be doing if Amazon is not going to upgrade it to Android 4.4 I do not care about root or mods, but I do care about compatibilty issues, and more and more things are becoming incompatible with Android 4.2.2 and 4.3. Come on amazon, step it up and give us what we should've already had six months ago.
Nice update! Really looking forward to the shopping feature. Wonder if this feature will go live on July 15th with "Prime day"?
Looking forward to a flashable version of this.
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Could you please check if its possible also to set sideloaded apps as favorite? THX in advance.
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No, only those downloaded from their App Store can be set as favorite.
You go into either "Games" or "Apps" to pick which ones you want to favorite, which brings them to the front of the Recent list in "Home" or the other mentioned sections.
Another change is they've added in the storage bar in Applications > Manage Installed Apps, now sit at the bottom of the screen.
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Still using Anroid 4.2.2 so the update is a major fail. Any updates for the Fire TV that do not run Android 4.4+ will all be failures. <snipped>
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Seems a new Fire TV Stick may be on the way running Lollipop 5.1 - http://liliputing.com/2015/07/amazons-next-gen-fire-tv-stick-may-be-coming-soon.html
This one will likely be left in the dark forever run on 4.2.2
Well, here is something...
For the longest time, when I hooked my Fire TV Box via Optical Audio to my Pioneer Elite VSX-21 (circa 1999-2000), SPMC/Kodi set for pass through did give me Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS (and show icons for each speaker). However, with the box set for Dolby Digital over Optical when playing movies from Amazon Instant, Netflix and Plex my Pioneer would always display only Dolby ProLogic (no speaker icons, indicating 2ch audio).
It looks like the v51.1.6.0 fixed that.
Today, playing a movie via Amazon Instant, I noticed Dolby Digital led on the receiver along with icons for each speaker.. Same with Netflix.
Plex however gives me no audio when playing movies from my server, but did give me stereo audio when playing a TV show via CBS channel in Plex.
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No, only those downloaded from their App Store can be set as favorite.
You go into either "Games" or "Apps" to pick which ones you want to favorite, which brings them to the front of the Recent list in "Home" or the other mentioned sections.
Another change is they've added in the storage bar in Applications > Manage Installed Apps, now sit at the bottom of the screen.
Seems a new Fire TV Stick may be on the way running Lollipop 5.1 - http://liliputing.com/2015/07/amazons-next-gen-fire-tv-stick-may-be-coming-soon.html
This one will likely be left in the dark forever run on 4.2.2
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Seems like just wild guess, and what spoils it is that there would be zero reason to put and accelerometor in an Android stick, which tells me that its not a new fire TV stick. I am sure there will be a new Fire TV stick at some point, but the page you gave the link to is 100% not a new Fire TV stick. You shold never link people to pages with unconfirmed info.
First up, it features WiFi and Bluetooth, but no GPS, compass, accelerometer, light sensor, camera, or SIM card. You’d expect most phones, tablets or other Android devices to have at least a few of those things.
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No, only those downloaded from their App Store can be set as favorite.
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Thx, not really what I hoped for.
porkenhimer said:
Seems like just wild guess, and what spoils it is that there would be zero reason to put and accelerometor in an Android stick, which tells me that its not a new fire TV stick. I am sure there will be a new Fire TV stick at some point, but the page you gave the link to is 100% not a new Fire TV stick. You shold never link people to pages with unconfirmed info.
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Not sure what your reading but it states clearly it does NOT have an accelerometer inside, only bluetooth & wifi are ticked, certainly fits the bill of being a Fire TV Stick of some kind going off the other specs (or lack of), guess we'll just have to wait and see...
This is the page the article is about - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&os=Android&api=gl&D=Amazon+AFTS&testgroup=info
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Not sure what your reading but it states clearly it does NOT have an accelerometer inside, only bluetooth & wifi are ticked, certainly fits the bill of being a Fire TV Stick of some kind going off the other specs (or lack of), guess we'll just have to wait and see...
This is the page the article is about - https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&os=Android&api=gl&D=Amazon+AFTS&testgroup=info
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The specs fit the billing for many devices. Who knows it could be a new type of device, or it could be a tablet. Til there is proof the articles are just people making wild guesses. Like I said, go back and look at all of Amazons tablets and yo will be amazed at the features some of them do not have that almost every tablet mae by other companies do. They even took the gamble of leaving cameras out the first Fire HD tablet. Amazon does strange things with their devices. They have left rear cameras of some of their tablets and said their study shows that people do not use rear cameras on their tablets then released the next tablet with a rear camera. they have left out HDMI ports saying people with tablets barely use them then for some reason released other tabets with HDMI ports. I would not rule out that the device is a tablet at all. Its very likely that it could be a budget tablet. Their newer tablets have been getting more expensive compared to their older ones so it could be a cheap tablet.
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First up, it features WiFi and Bluetooth, but no GPS, compass, accelerometer, light sensor, camera, or SIM card. You’d expect most phones, tablets or other Android devices to have at least a few of those things.
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And what would these sonsors be good for on an mediaplayer device?
GPS? I know where my TV is.
Compass? My TV doesn't change its direction so often.
Accelerometer? I hope it never falls off the wall.
Light Sensor? For a divice without display?
Camera? Would be nice for skype but better use an external one.
SIM card?
So where is the point?
Hmmmm and off topic anyway .. Sorry for that.
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And what would these sonsors be good for on an mediaplayer device?
GPS? I know where my TV is.
Compass? My TV doesn't change its direction so often.
Accelerometer? I hope it never falls off the wall.
Light Sensor? For a divice without display?
Camera? Would be nice for skype but better use an external one.
SIM card?
So where is the point?
Hmmmm and off topic anyway .. Sorry for that.
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Yes, proof that this is likely the next generation FireTV or Stick, and not another phone or tablet from Amazon.
i've been unable to 'adb connect' to my unrooted fire tv box since around the time it received the latest update. i've rebooted several times - computer and fire tv. no luck. can anyone else confirm or deny this with their box? maybe something funky going on with my routers...
Probably you need to re-enable the ADB debugging within the FireTV System > Developer Options.
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Probably you need to re-enable the ADB debugging within the FireTV System > Developer Options.
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thanks, but i already checked that. i even tried turning it off, restarting, turning it on, restarting again. still can't adb connect to my box.
Probably the IP changed. Had this one time that my router assigned another IP than the regulary IP to the AFTV.
again, thanks for trying. firetv has a static IP. it has not changed. my router shows that the firetv is connected with the IP it is supposed to have. everything on my firetv works. i can't ping the firetv from my computer but maybe that is normal. i never tried before when adb connect was working. i tried doing a port scan from computer using nmap but it doesn't see the firetv at all. i feel like i'm losing my mind.
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well, i've got adb connect working again. i told firetv to forget the network then i re-added it. this time i didn't specify IP/subnet/etc. i let it get it all from DHCP. now adb connect works. weird.