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[Q] Flash 10.2 performance ?

so i just watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqxKHGO9HhM
its on samsung galaxy s II ..
how about atrix ? can it handle 720p in browser ?

Every YouTube video I try defaults to 360p and when I try to bring up the resolution selection, it appears for a split second and goes away. I can't even choose 720p!

I can use 720p on my vibrant
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No the Atrix istn able to play ANY 720p youtube video without lagging on the net. You have to watch in 480p.
Tegra 2 istn capable of this.

Just played a bunch of 720p videos on youtube, all ran smooth and fast.
The only video that never played flash was some espn ones

KingKuba13 said:
Just played a bunch of 720p videos on youtube, all ran smooth and fast.
The only video that never played flash was some espn ones
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Thats impossible. Tegra 2 isnt capable of decoding HP 720p youtube videos hardwarewise & it doesnt have to.
So i dont know which phone you have right now but its not the atrix..

my atrix streams 720p perfectly... Idk what you guys are talking about. Use wifi cuz att speed sucks
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thereal2x said:
my atrix streams 720p perfectly... Idk what you guys are talking about. Use wifi cuz att speed sucks
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Omg what are you talking about?
You cant play 720p youtube videos in the browser with the atrix..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgSa4wmMzk&feature=related&hd=1
test it..
it stutters as hell

Hianz said:
Omg what are you talking about?
You cant play 720p youtube videos in the browser with the atrix..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgSa4wmMzk&feature=related&hd=1
test it..
it stutters as hell
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That video played fine for me. Not sure what resolution it is pushing as the mobile site only says HQ.

Jeah mobile HQ youtube = 480p.
You have to play it directly in the stock browser.

Yeah those that have it "working" must be on the mobile youtube site. Embedded in the stock browser, it stutters pretty bad.

that and you get the "not optimized for mobile" message

WarningSLO said:
Yeah those that have it "working" must be on the mobile youtube site. Embedded in the stock browser, it stutters pretty bad.
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I just tried it in the stock browser embedded. Not stuttering, its watchable, just not perfect perfect smooth.
I'm on Bell and using flash 10.1, not sure if that makes any difference.

Yea.... i dunno if the "Tegra 2 does not support it" statement is the greatest way to put it. It more than likely CAN play 720p video in the browser.... but i'm guessing it would need to be a browser with GPU-assisted rendering in order to be perfectly smooth playback.

Hianz said:
Omg what are you talking about?
You cant play 720p youtube videos in the browser with the atrix..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgSa4wmMzk&feature=related&hd=1
test it..
it stutters as hell
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Testing...
Ack, this is horrible! Oh wait, I thought it was stuttering. Then I saw it was just loading.
...10 minutes later (Hey AT&T, I think you forgot the 4G part on my Atrix 4G)
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Now playing with video finally loaded:
A little stutter as it start playing, but smooth after the first 3 seconds....Opera 11 mobile browser.

For a while, I had both the Atrix and the Inspire. I loaded MotoBlur 1.1 on the Atrix and CM7 nightly on the Inspire (which OC'ed it to 1.5 Ghz). I tested various flash videos with both devices side by side running Dolphin Mini and Flash 10.2 over wifi.
Playback of 720p videos in the browser from sites like Devour.com were prefect and smooth on the 1.5 Ghz Inpsire. The same videos were almost unwatchable on the Atrix. I also noticed this when watching embedded video on pages filled with many clips (video section of Failblog for example). The same clip would be very choppy on the Atrix and the Inspire would play it smoothly.
I ended up keeping the Atrix because of battery issues with the Inspire (yes, I tried every trick in the book to optimize it). My time with both devices showed a fast, single core CPU results in much more "real life" performance than the dual core Atrix is capable of putting out.
Hopefully Flash and Android become better optimized for dual core processors.

Could it be froyo vs gingerbread thingi ? As i know ginger has some code optimise for flash but froyo is not.

Could also be the case. As we all know, there tends to be a pretty big difference from OS to OS..... take Eclair to Froyo for instance.

hardware acceleration on flash, is there a way to enable it yet

As the title states, do we have a way to get hardware acceleration on adobe flash. I hate staring at terrible framerates on HD YouTube via their website and stuttering along on other video streaming sites. This is a dual core device, my phone shouldn't be outperforming it.

agreed, I thought 3.1 honeycomb was supposed to include support for hardware accelerated flash. Sadly any flash video 720p or higher runs real slow on 3.1. Including amazon video on demand and YouTube....

trothmaster said:
agreed, I thought 3.1 honeycomb was supposed to include support for hardware accelerated flash. Sadly any flash video 720p or higher runs real slow on 3.1. Including amazon video on demand and YouTube....
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So 3.1 is not the holy grail of bug fixes everyone here is making it out to be... well who'd have thought?

Youtube works fine on my device. Tested with Dark Knight trailer on official youtube app.

Youtube performance
Works great on my a500 using honeycomb Youtube app - works just as well via stock browser on the web site.
What browser are you using to try to play video? Does HD video play in the native youtube app but not in your browser?

i think youtube app plays html5 ,not flash video

We are talking about flash 720p in browser not YouTube app....
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Ridicolous pixellated videos.
Deltaechoe said:
As the title states, do we have a way to get hardware acceleration on adobe flash. I hate staring at terrible framerates on HD YouTube via their website and stuttering along on other video streaming sites. This is a dual core device, my phone shouldn't be outperforming it.
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So, I'm not the only stupid guy who's having that ridicolous streaming video quality!
I was asking in the primee rom thread but everybody had ignored me, same thing in the acertabletforum.com thread, and in the facebook page to support the unlocked bootloader (where I was teased as an idiot).
Youtube has some pixellated video, both in the dedicated app and in the website.
Same issue for all other kind of streamed video.
What we have to wait? Is that a Tegra2 issue? My Galaxy S and my Iphone 4 have not this ridicolous video quality...So, who's the guilty? -.-
Google promised hardware acceleration with the 3.1 update...but it seems something gone wrong.

klubmix said:
My Galaxy S and my Iphone 4 have not this ridicolous video quality...So, who's the guilty?
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Iphone doesn't support Flash so either you're talking about HTML5 or you've just figured it out how to watch flash movies on iGear.

bpivk said:
Iphone doesn't support Flash so either you're talking about HTML5 or you've just figured it out how to watch flash movies on iGear.
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"Youtube has some pixellated video, both in the dedicated app and in the website.
Same issue for all other kind of streamed video."
Maybe you're forgotting this...I was talking about every kind of streamed video, not only a flashplayer based video.
And, you'll know for sure, some Cydia tweaks and Puffin browser, let see flash video in an iOS device.

i just figured out if you use a rom with an updated kernel to 2.6.36.4....the last 4 being the key flash hardware acceleration works great. At least on 720p.

1080p Adobe Flash videos

How many 1080p Adobe Flash videos can Galaxy SII play at same time?

If you open 20tabs all with 1080p video, only the current tab can run..... with 1080p perfectly

mimstyle said:
If you open 20tabs all with 1080p video, only the current tab can run..... with 1080p perfectly
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You have to make a website with many 1080p Flash videos on one page.

ironically, it stutters in some other websites

I managed to get two 720p youtube videos to work and even though it played well and the phone stayed responsive their was some stuttering, I'd guess frame rate dropped to something like 10fps.
Answering your question I think one only, which is still pretty impressive tbh.
Sent from my GT-I9100

1080p flash is one of the main reasons i ditched my g2x in favor of this phone the sgs2 handles high def flash and other media effortlessly

What ROM are you guys using?
I tried to play 1080p youtube videos on desktop version and it's very stuttering.

hbkmog said:
What ROM are you guys using?
I tried to play 1080p youtube videos on desktop version and it's very stuttering.
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1080p youtube videos should play smooth. You might have to pause video for the streaming to catch up, youtube' servers seem to slow.

Are you using the stock ROM and stock browser?
I was using MIUI and Dolphin Mini and 1080p isn't that smooth.

Why do you want to play 1080p in a 480p screen?
It is ridiculous.

kersh said:
Why do you want to play 1080p in a 480p screen?
It is ridiculous.
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HDMI output?

hbkmog said:
Are you using the stock ROM and stock browser?
I was using MIUI and Dolphin Mini and 1080p isn't that smooth.
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Stock rom works best with Flash

nraudigy2 said:
HDMI output?
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Nope.
HDMI output it is only 1080p using a video file on the phone output by the video player in full screen mode.
If you try to see a flash video that it is on the phone UI (browser), the output will be only 800x480 in the TV, so it is not possible to see flash video 1080p at 1080p in the TV with the hdmi. You will see 800x480 scaled to 1080 on TV and it will looks like crap and same quality that using 480p video.
So seeing 1080p flash on a phone it is simply stupid and without real use until adobe makes that flash can go full screen video on the phones, and they cant do this, so theres no future with this. Maybe galaxy 3 can show true 1080p ui when connected to hdmi and make it useful, but not now.

H264 High Profile video decoding on Iconia Tab examples

This is just a video comparation for two roms we have for our Iconia Tab.
NOTE: I'm talk about video decoding, not about any other feature on both roms.
First. Acer Stock based rom 3.1 (it sucks)
Second. Samsung Galaxy Tab based rom 3.1 (Use 1.0.4 update1)
Check it up and if you want better video playing you know galaxy rom its better for this.

You're not saying if that's 1080p high-profile or 720p high-profile. Why does it matter? Well, because 720p high-profile works just fine on the stock ROM and if what you're playing is 720p high-profile then you either have something really screwed up with your tab or you're deliberately trying to "prove" how superior the galaxy ROM is.

WereCatf said:
You're not saying if that's 1080p high-profile or 720p high-profile. Why does it matter? Well, because 720p high-profile works just fine on the stock ROM and if what you're playing is 720p high-profile then you either have something really screwed up with your tab or you're deliberately trying to "prove" how superior the galaxy ROM is.
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Obviously its 720p high no chance with 1080 on tegra2. About roms yes TALKING ABOUT VIDEO PLAYING the galaxy rom its the best of Asus,Acer,Motorola,Toshiba,samsung. Tested on every single rom on this forum just flashed and fresh. If I post this if for those who like to watch videos. Its the only thing that I can say Galaxys rom is best.
personally i found galaxy's rom a little laggy in other terms like browsing and stuff but I really like to watch videos on the tab and this rom its my choice for this task.

Alejandrissimo said:
Obviously its 720p high no chance with 1080 on tegra2.
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What's the point then? Stock ROM DOES play 720p high-profile just fine.

1080p HP is for tegra3 fyi guys

WereCatf said:
What's the point then? Stock ROM DOES play 720p high-profile just fine.
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+1 to Werecatf
I don't really understand. 720p HP works fine on my 100% stock Iconia. I use doubletwist, moboplayer and the default movie player and they all work perfectly, so if you're having issues (especially what I see in that video) I'm going to say it's something related to your tablet or that it was tested using the older 3.0.1 builds.

obviously NOT all videos are the same, there is a video that probe it. I have several videos, that iconia with stock doesn't play smoothly, aleast not in main or high profile.
I dont know why samsung HC play better that videos.

Alejandrissimo said:
obviously NOT all videos are the same, there is a video that probe it. I have several videos, that iconia with stock doesn't play smoothly, aleast not in main or high profile.
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Give a link to the said videos then.
For example the Simpsons Movie trailer from http://www.h264info.com/clips.html is 720p Quicktime-profile, ie. non-standard, non-baseline, and works just fine. The Rise of the Silver Surfer video is high-profile 720p and that too plays without an issue, no lag, no nothing.

Camera Features - ICS, JB vs GB

Hello everybody, I was thinking about our HD2's camera module, and I realized that we don't have the same features yet from ICS to JB as in GB.
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Pictures:
Well about pictures I think we can do almost they same things on all Android versions, a little exception for Barcode scanners that works at 99.9% and not fully working, but it is negligible
Videos:
Now we can consider two ways...
GB Videos
ICS and JB Videos
- GB Videos:
Ok, GB videos are the perfection, because we can record up to 720p @ 30FPS (maybe more but I never tried)
- ICS and JB Videos:
Well that's the real point of this topic, because I'm really bored to think that if I need to record something special, probly it could be a crappy video file.
Why that? Because on ICS and JB (never tried JB but I know that we have almost the same lib) the recording is up to 800x480 @15FPS
The resolution is not a real problem, because is enought bigger to watch a great video, but about the FPS??
I don't want to sound like a fanatic who just want to know that have the best in his own hands but he don't see any differences between two things....
But when I watch a video recorded @15FPS I see a stuttered video and it's really annoying, because on GB it was fantastic and the camera module works best it can do.
So my question is:
Can we hope in a better camera in the future?
I'm not saying better than GB but just as good...
HD2 is the King and I think that this can be possible sooner or later :fingers-crossed:

Did you manage to record 720p @ 30 fps on an HD2 in Android? What ROM did you use?

I think it was typhoon 7.2cm but maybe with other is possible too
And just once I recorded at 1080p lol but never happened anymore.
I use LGcamera to record because it allows to set different parameters

Thanks for the tip. I can't test right now because I switched to JB this morning, I would waste the rest of the day i I were to switch back to GB and back.
Lgcamera is great on JB though; the stock app can only shoot video at ~4 fps at the moment.

atakama said:
Thanks for the tip. I can't test right now because I switched to JB this morning, I would waste the rest of the day i I were to switch back to GB and back.
Lgcamera is great on JB though; the stock app can only shoot video at ~4 fps at the moment.
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Really the stock camera on JB is just 4FPS?

atakama said:
Did you manage to record 720p @ 30 fps on an HD2 in Android? What ROM did you use?
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You can't, that's BS. No ROMs properly support more than 480p @ 30FPS.
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zenida said:
I think it was typhoon 7.2cm but maybe with other is possible too
And just once I recorded at 1080p lol but never happened anymore.
I use LGcamera to record because it allows to set different parameters
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in which ROM did you just do such a thing like that...? :-?
or even 720p recording...? which rom...?

Trust me you can with cm 7.2 typhoon if I remember correctly... I recorded at 720p @30fps with LGcamera pro
Is a big step anyway to get 30fps even if 800*480

so there are roms that can record at 720p?

zenida said:
Trust me you can with cm 7.2 typhoon if I remember correctly... I recorded at 720p @30fps with LGcamera pro
Is a big step anyway to get 30fps even if 800*480
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I agree with this guy......I just tried typhoon rom and it actually worked...720p @ 30fps video shooting....lgcamera pro....