Trying to operate MAGLDR / change boot order without hardkeys - HD2 General

replacing the usb port, i broke the ap fpc ribbon. used for the hardkeys.
im just wondering, i can get my phone to turn on, and it comes to wph not installed. i can then navigate the magdlr menu, up and down till my hearts content but no way of clicked anything... :/
is there anyway i can change the boot order without my hardkeys ?
or is there anyway i can get it to boot further than magldr without hardkeys??

infuriating to now see it sat there working but not being able to do a darn thing !
can anyone advise me what i should do next? or what i can do.
im contemplating buying spares/repairs hd2, which i can replace the hardkeys / AP FPC ribbon cable.
theres no way i can temporarily repair the ap fpc cable whilst i change boot order to nand is there? :/
no wph
android sd - yes
android nand - yes
volume buttons do work

Nope there's nothing you can do other than to replace them as magldr is programmed that way. Can I ask how you even turn it on without the hardware keys?
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with great difficulty.
just with uh holding the battery in place... disconnect charger, connect charger, if no vibration, disconnect, reconnect... after a few times it will boot.
and okay, so if i buy the new one and replace it all should be good?
ah im not the best, i managed to take it apart to but couldnt get to where you can get the buttons out im pretty heavy handed, didnt trust myself (nor need to at that stage).. but couldnt get the screen off. :/ tips? advice? ordering one now

Hmmm
you should just buy a new HD2

I did the exact same thing. Just bought the replacement ribon cable, and double sided tape. You have to heat up the phone to remove the screen. So u need a heat gun or a blow dryer.

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[solved] bootloader dont load

wanted to install wp7 with a clean start...so tried to task29 (doloop) with 100% success and then my tmo hd2 wont go into bootscreen what ever i do...its stuck for ever in "stick together"...i know there is no os to load...but i dont understand y cant my hd2 go intobootloader
so far i tried
with holding volume down and power key with a single tap
with holding volume down and holding power key
with holding volume down, volume up and power key with a single tap
with holding volume down and reset button
with/without sim
with/without SD
with/without plug in wall charger
with/without plug to pc via usb cable
observations...when i pull out the battery and put it back in and then connect to computer when the phone is still off....the charging indicator LED glows in orange.
when in this mode if i switch the phone on with power/end key....it doent start...i have to pull the usb out, the orange LED still glows...and if i tap the power/end key nothing happenes...i have to pullout the battery to get it to start and eventually get stuck in "stick together"..
would really appriciate if any1 can help me get my hd2 into bootloader screen...
resolved the problem myself.....hd2 is working like a charm....thanks for all your support.
How did you fix it? For other users in this position.
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SOLVED {bootloader dont loadArrow}
Here is what I did..
B4 that some background -
I used to heavily try different roms/mods and always played with android sd and nand versions…win 6.5X in multiple cooked version….
So my tmo-hd2 has been formatted/hard reseted/flashed many many times
By virtue of this….my screen died….slowly my screen touch responsiveness malfunctioned and eventually died… all hardware keys were working perfectly by the touch was dead….
During the process of screen malfunction to completely dead….made few observations to not things which might help fellow Hd2 owners…one thing is power/end key seems to be the culprit (this is my observation/belief).
Since I don’t live in US spend 100$ in changing the screen since then everything is working well…I still rig my hd2 like I always do…
Well when the wp7 was released, wanted to give a try…did this…hspl pkg 3 spl 2.08 hspl > then task 29 > and my hd2 didn’t get into bootloader at all…..i was doomed as there hd2 (after task29) didn’t hv os..
Searched for the solution everywhere and eventually nothing worked for me…I was about to give up…suddenly sometime struck my mind…wat if the power/end key is the problem….then things were positive..
I opened up my hd2 (unscrew and removed the back panel) and disconnected the connector flex rigid board (A board) of the hardware keypad from the mainboard….and pushed the battery in and pressed reset (sometime u need to plugin the usb cable to wall charged/pc to wake up the phone) and held volume down key and hopped for some miracle.
Viola saw the tricolor screen after eternity – since the back panel (not backcover) was open I help the battery to the pins and didn’t even move my fingers …run the stock rom installation and held the battery tight in place and waited to get the rom completed…the moment its 100% relaxed my fingers and reconnected the flexboard connector, re-assembled my phone and everything was back to normal…
ONE THING I LEARND FROM THIS…..HD2 IS A ROCKING PHONE AND U CAN RESURRECT IT WHATEVER HAPPENS TO IT (if at all some1 screws it with wrong radio…its officially bricked, but still it can be revived using RIFF JTAG method and rewrite boot data).
One final request pls DON’T GIVEUP ON YOUR DEVISE
Now I have wp7 running successfully and waiting for my activation code for live services
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Thank me if this was useful
I can confirm this does work. I myself was going to give up until I found this and well thank you!
fcpelayo said:
I can confirm this does work. I myself was going to give up until I found this and well thank you!
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happy it worked for you....promote this solution....others might benefit.
also hit thanks if u think its worth it
May I link to or rewrite and credit you with this in my guide?
interesting, two confirmations in this thread, and there's another thread where 2/3 people successfully used this method.
That whole lower right area is the Achilles Heel of this phone, keypad, screen connector and most pressed key all right in one little place.
Bring me the chief designers head on a plate!
Yes. The only downfall of the hd2. I wish it had the soft screen keys at the bottom.
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kylew1212 said:
May I link to or rewrite and credit you with this in my guide?
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Would like to divert folks to this thread and share experiences here so every one will hit the same link to get benefit, If thats oki with you. let me know
samsamuel said:
interesting, two confirmations in this thread, and there's another thread where 2/3 people successfully used this method.
That whole lower right area is the Achilles Heel of this phone, keypad, screen connector and most pressed key all right in one little place.
Bring me the chief designers head on a plate!
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yup...and the interesting thing is, i befriended an HTC engineer and got hold of multiple 'a-boards' at that time to test this out.the flex-board that reacts when we push the button.
there were multiple models/molds for HD2...may be different production lines..everything did the same job including the one which was shipped with the device..'a-board' wasnt the culprit here..the very design of having power + end call + device unlock in the same key/button is the issue.

[Q] HD2 only powers up via USB? Just reinstalled new digitzer

Hey XDA, my phone's digitizer broke, so i decided to bring it to a local repair shop to get it fixed. The phone worked completely as I was able to run hyperdroid NAND and the touchscreen also worked perfectly as well. After getting the digitizer replaced from this guy, my phone would not turn on. The only way to turn on the phone would to plug in the USB. Even though it was plugged into the USB and powered on, it would run MAGLDR and go to the NAND boot where it would say 123456 gogogo. From there it just stops and stays there. Also when i boot into the tri-colored bootloader, it does not recognize that my USB is plugged in, and also doesnt say cotulla blah blah blah. Still shows that it is running hardspl though. What could be the problem?
Much help would be appreciated thanks!
P.S. I would also like to say that when booting into MAGLDR, holding the power button does not bring me to the menu that shows boot SD or the stuff like tetris.
happened to me before. Check the battery pins maybe one of them is bent.
really? hmm. well it seems like the battery pins are fine! it has to be a hardware problem somewhere right? cause it was working before he went to work on it!
actually... do your pins go down pretty easily? i have to press kind of hard on mine for them to go down. but that doesnt explain the bootloader not recognizing the USB though... or does it??
yea they should be hard to push down... cant tell you if its hardware or not but if i had to guess im guessing one of the ribbons hasnt been reconnected right.
I can assure you it is hardware. I was running hyperdroid right before he fixed it! we turned it off and everything then he started working on it. a ribbon not connected right could be the case! ill see what i can do. maybe ill bring it back to him
in bootloader when i pull out my usb. it says serial where it should say USB
If this helps anyone, I just resolved this myself by pushing down a pin that was sticking up, then inserting the battery DOWNWARDS so the pins get pressed back down and it should allow your HD2 to reboot.

[Q] Boot without keypad?

So I bought a HTC HD2 on eBay which wouldn't turn on after a screen replacement for €65. I opened the phone and found out that the flex cable of the keypad is torn.
Now, that clarifies a lot, so now I'm wondering if there is any other way to turn the phone on? Connecting to the computer or plugging in a charger or something? (like iPhone)
Haven't tried that yet, but I assume the seller tried that himself
I don't know if it works with the stock firmware and everything,
but if i take out my battery, connect a power source(AC or USB), and put the battery back in, it starts up.
give it a try.
Even if you will be able to boot into WM, Android or whatever, your phone will be totaly useless without these buttons.
So if it is really due to the keypad flex, just order new one .. for example here http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-HD2-T8585-keypad-key-button-flex-ribbon-cable-parts-/150600904371 or in any dyi china store
Maxp101 said:
I don't know if it works with the stock firmware and everything,
but if i take out my battery, connect a power source(AC or USB), and put the battery back in, it starts up.
give it a try.
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Thanks, I will give it a try
cubexe said:
Even if you will be able to boot into WM, Android or whatever, your phone will be totaly useless without these buttons.
So if it is really due to the keypad flex, just order new one .. for example here <snap> or in any dyi china store
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Yes of course, but before I buy a new one, I need to find out if thats the only problem.
ATM, I disassembled the phone completely and the volume button is torn aswell :/ and the bluetooth antenna is missing.
Maxp101 said:
I don't know if it works with the stock firmware and everything,
but if i take out my battery, connect a power source(AC or USB), and put the battery back in, it starts up.
give it a try.
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Thanks a lot! I got to the maglite boot loader! But without any buttons it's useless I guess?
Well, if you hold the volume down button while you reinsert the battery you get into the bootloader. Then you could flash CLK and CWM.
I'm not sure but I believe that it's possible to flash a rom with the use of fastboot.
If you just flash a ICS rom and enable software buttons or a gingerbread rom with tablet tweaks enabled, you wouldn't need the hardware buttons
But in the end having working hardware buttons is allot more practical.
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Maxp101 said:
Well, if you hold the volume down button while you reinsert the battery you get into the bootloader. Then you could flash CLK and CWM.
I'm not sure but I believe that it's possible to flash a rom with the use of fastboot.
If you just flash a ICS rom and enable software buttons or a gingerbread rom with tablet tweaks enabled, you wouldn't need the hardware buttons
But in the end having working hardware buttons is allot more practical.
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It already has Android flashed, and I found out that the volume flex cable is torn aswell and the bluetooth antenna isn't there either. Anyways, I'm able to boot into android using the charger-battery method, and unlock is possible with unplugging the charger. I ordered a new keypad and will have a look to solder the volume buttons. I installed SoftKeys to emulate the keyboard, but only the home button works, guess it's not rooted.
So am I able to boot another OS from the SD card without volume buttons?
Nah, you would need to change a setting in MAGLDR.
And i don't believe that's possible without hardware buttons.
Hope you'll fix your HD2, and get it up and running soon. It really is a wonderful phone!
And a happy new year!
Just ordered a new flex cable and bluetooth/wifi antenna.
Total of the phone is now: $123,39 / €99,45.
Guess it's still a good price for a HD2 with a brand new screen
And what would it be worth afterwards?
Damn, I wish I bought this phone at launch, its still a high-end phone in 2011. Kinda same specs as my i4.
Oh, and happy new year to you too and all of you guys
That's a nice deal!
I got mine from a friend for €120,-
There still are some shops that sell new ones for about €400 but that's just silly.
Second hand it'll do about €200,00 if you'll advert it right.
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Mine has the Nexus HD2 rom, once the usb cable connect, it boot up.

[Q] Going back to stock.

Hi, been trying this for a long time now. I need, for warranty purposes, to return back to stock from nand android. Unfortunately i can't get to bootloader, the tri-color screen. My phone boots directly to Magldr. My phone on/off key is broken and i need it to get to the tri-color bootloader.
My question is, if there's any way i can get the stock winmo 6.5 rom flashed from magldr. USB Flasher, or by CWM, NAND Toolkit, or any other trick so that i can get it to repair?? PLEASE BEFORE ANSWERING NOTE THAT I CAN'T GET TO BOOTLOADER, I DON'T HAVE ON/OFF KEY AND THAT KEY IS NEEDED TO GET TO TRICOLOR SCREEN
My microphone is failling and the hard keys also... need them fixed.
Thanks.
You don't need the on/off keys to go into the bootloader, just the volume down rocker.
Press & hold it, then boot up the device.
Tried it a million times... it's a no go!!! It doesn't work, try it on your HD2, push the volume down and reboot the phone by taking the battery out and back in, or by pushing the reset button. That the only way i can reboot my phone. You need to shortly press the on/off button to get to bootloader.
Okay, try to install Android. After that, from within Android reboot your phone using "Reboot" option . And while it is rebooting, keep the volume down button held.
]P.S[ I just tried rebooting from within android, and then holding the volume down, WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING THE POWER BUTTON and it went directly to the bootloader. Are you sure your volumes are working ?
You have MAGLDR installed. Power off your phone and connect charger with Vol. down button pressed. Your phone will start in bootloader.
I guess my volume keys must be down too... they work on magldr, they work on android but i can't seem to replicate what you guys are saying. But there's no way i can do this from usb flasher inside magldr?? or inside cwm?? or with nand toolkit?? without having to be in bootloader?
Those are some solutions I have been able to gather from various threads, with the same problem :
Solution #1 :
jonas2295 said:
Okay try this :
Remove battery,
With left hand press and hold volume down,
With the other hand you put the battery back in and press AND hold the power button, so power and volume pressed and hold, wait until you see the bootloader.
This will work (at least it worked on my phone 1min ago)
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Solution #2 :
Marvlesz said:
Some times, Bent Battery Pins can cause unpredictable issues (However, I have not seen one like this.).
You may want to check your battery pins, straighten them delicately if they are (even a little) bent.
You could try sd card flash method?
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Solution #3 :
mootmetal said:
this us happenin to me all the time ..so if i want to access boot loader i need to wait 2 mn after shuttind down the phone ...if i try befor 2 mn it gos to magldr and no bootloader ...
i read befor that someone had the same issue and he had to wait about 3 or 4 hours instead of 2 mn i wait
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Solution #4 : (This answers your question in the post above, + I think this is the solution that will solve your issue)
T-Macgnolia said:
No no no no no and NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is nothing in MAGLDR that can make your HD2 go into bootloader. The only this.g that can get you into the bootloader besides the external hardware buttons is the bootloader.exe that can be run from inside Windows Mobile. It can only be run from inside Windows Mobile. MAGLDR is a custom bootloader that runs after the HSPL bootloader and has no way of communicating with the HSPL bootloader.
At the OP, you may have a faulty volume button ribbon that is causing you not to be able to boot into the bootloader. Check out this thread you will see what I mean. Read post #10
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Solution #5 :
bambuchko said:
I had the same problem ...
I could not enter the bootmanager in android brief button press to end a call, we moved the menu to shut down, reset, etc, the same menu that appears when you hold down the button longer to stop calling ...
This defect appeared to me after I lay HD2 due to large changes in ambient temperature ...
After a few days of research, opening, drying I removed the defect, so I pulled out and cleaned the keys below the screen (Home, Menu, Back, red and green) and wipe the foil that these pressures are the same buttons ...
My HD2 has been working for 2 weeks with no errors
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If none of the above solved your problem, then .. I guess .. Houston, we have a problem.
Sources of the solutions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326713
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240295
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899628
P.S : Read through them, I may have missed something .. and I didn't read the last one thoroughly, read it yourself.
DISCLAIMER:
I do not own any of the previously mentioned solutions. All rights reserved to their respective owners. No copyright infringement intended.
It seems my phone has a little more problems than i tought. I got another HD2 with a broken digitizer,but i can reproduce what you are saying about the volume key down,no need of on/off button. I guess i have to get the courage to open up the beast.
Thanks for all your help guys.
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by the way, it's not possible either to flash radio also if i can't get to bootloader??
flashing with fastboot, and .img files and what not is just for android based devices right??
Correct.
If you can't get to the bootloader, you can't flash anything.
Fastboot is only for Android.
I understand that if you are getting the phone serviced directly by HTC, they won't have a problem with you having Android on it. Buy, if you are going through your service provider, that may be a problem.
good luck
I've been to HTC service. They didn't repaired the phone claiming that there was a non original software on the phone and there was water between the digitizer and the screen. Even though none of the stickers were showing red or pink or other color than white.
In fact there is something trapped inside but it may be alcohol. I had an accident with the phone on a boat. Got wet by a wave and it must have gotten to the phone too that was inside my "purse" (it's a man purse ok?!? those bags that we guys use to carry stuff!!). I didn't noticed and instead of taking the battery at once i tried to turn on the phone... all hell brake loose. I then toke the batt of, and let it rest for a couple of days. Then burried it in rice to absorb the moisture. Then read that alcohol could "push" the water out, and splashed some near the hard keys because they didn't work and i thought that may have been salt water, or salt crystals blocking my keys.
Concluding, the phones works with a few limitations. The only keys that work right is the call and the windows keys and volume keys. And my microphone doesn't work right too. People can only barely hear if i speak directly to it and shout, and still they hear me in the bottom of a well.
I've bought another HD2 on ebay, with a cracked digitizer. Was thinking of maybe taking it for parts, since mine is in mint condition. But i might replace it's digitizer and repair the two phones. I'm only affraid to open it up because it looks very, very difficult.
Thanks anyway for all your support.
Hello, i´m an electrician and i have an idea.
Important is to dry it completely before put the Battery in.
I have opened some "normal" earlier Cellphones (not Touchscreen Phones) and cleaned it with distilled water.
It seems to be impossible to get the functions of the Hardkeys back without open your Phone.
You may try to flush out the corner of the hardkeys with distilled water to remove possible contamination with crystals or minerals that could cause block the keys.
I remain this would be the last chance before opening the phone.
i can not say what happens when you do this, normaly the componets have no problem with water, only the microphone and the cable connection can hold the moisture for a long time.
I hope i could have helped you with this idea. Please be careful it will be a risk the Digitizer is also in the bottom right corner.
if you don´t want to take the risk bring your phone to a independent (not HTC or Service Provider) Phone doctor.
excuse my bad english
Olli

Need Help Please!!! Phone got wet!

Hi folks. I gave my HD2 to my wife "big mistake" and she got it wet with water I had it running Windows7.5. The only way it turns on is by plugging it in to wall charger or USB. Power button does not seem to work. I can get to magldr and boot to windows manually but it just reboots to magldr. Once I unplug the phone it shuts off. I am able to get into bootloader. I've done a task29 and flashed back to windows 6.5 but it just bootloops. I don't know if there is any hope for this phone but I'm not giving up that easy. I do have the latest radio and my hspl is 2.08. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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u should pull out the battery
do not start ur phone when it is still wet
jesseserna said:
I've done a task29 and flashed back to windows 6.5 but it just bootloops.
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Did you try doing the whole works, ie Stock ROM flash via an SD card? that will wipe the whole device, SPL, ROM and Radio, all included.
I do fear that its not going to make any differences though because......
Kenneth914 said:
u should pull out the battery
do not start ur phone when it is still wet
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His right, but I assume its a bit to late for that now!
One other thing you could try, and its a bit of a curve ball, try squashing the bottom of the phone around the keys (not on the keys them selves, but all around.
Typically the key issue and digitiser issue are linked to the panels separating, ive found that squashing it all together again can make the buttons and digitiser work again but I seriously doubt it will help in this casa but it costs nothing to try
Hopefull!
Got home from work took the battery out and i noticed the three little tabs from the power were bent. I fixed them up a bit and by a miracle somehow the phone works now! But theres something else wrong now. the touch screen does not work now! So I'm assuming I'll need a screen digitizer? Thanks for all the quick responses
Maybe, but try squashing it first, the cable is below the power button an has a habbit of falling out, squashing it together can work, its what's keeping my hd2 alive now, fixing the broken usb socket is somewhat more troublesum!
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Rule number one don't turn it on. Remove all parts you can easily remove (sim card etc.) and let it dry for atleast 1 day.
Because if you turn it on, and there's water, there could be electronic shocks which damages phone inside.
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So after all the tips and tricks. I still can't get the screen to be responsive. But at least it turns on now.
? The hardware buttons still work, so how do I know if I need to replace only the LCD screen and/or digitizer!?
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As mentioned already first call on a wet phone is cut all power.
second is stripping it & letting it dry out for several days in a warm environment or using trick such as rice in a bag with phone to draw moisture out.
Running the device & flashing it while wet/damp is not the way to go.
Give it some more time to dry out & if digi does not respond perhaps a new digi is worth a shot pending on whether you want take the gamble & feel up to the challenge ...
you should have waited for it to dry at least before turning on the power. Your device has more likely been "grounded"

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