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So what's the hype on MIUI Rom all about?

Okay I did some research on the Rom. Everyone raves about the speed and how battery last longer then the stock or cm6 roms. It looks very iphony to me. How smooth is the Rom? How is it working out for you miui users. Is it worth the time? I am very satisfied with cm6. Haven't thought of switching but I want to give it a try. Please let me know.

try out the rom yourself, its not going to kill you

I gave it a go. It is very iphone-ish, but not so much that it bothered me or was distasteful. I saw no increase in battery life or speed, even though I'm sure tests might prove it, nothing that makes a noticeable difference in day to day usage. I eventually went back to enoms rom with wildmonks kernal.
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miui
well, I didnt wanna try it out either because I really dont like the iphone interface, but turns out that I did try it and I love it!
I didnt use the stock launcher though, thats what made it iphone like.
Im using launcher pro and adw so I get pretty much all the benefits of the rom. It is a very fast rom. probably as fast as all the other really. but for some reason, its really smooth. its a completely new version of android I would say.
give it a try with another launcher. I think you might like it. also, try out wildmonks kernels. they seem pretty fast and stable for me

Which Rom do you recommend? Rodriguez or dj's? Wildmonks kernel is the best. Not a big fan of iPhone but will use launcher pro or adw launcher.

Im using rodriguez. It seems to be the easiest one file flash type of rom.

Rodriguez is what I used. Was very nice and launcher pro worked great with it. It also has some nice features with it. I might give it another go myself, but with gingerbread around the corner, I dunno. Plus it's just hard to give up enoms.
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im using it with adw launcher and i love it. there isnt really any increase in performance that ive noticed but i love how you can go straight to sms app from the lock screen.

Rod's MIUI rom's rock...happy flashing!
And read his thread posts for details & info

I've been using Rodriguez MIUI roms for a while now. Every once in a while I flash something else including a few Sense ones and CM6.1 but the MIUI roms simply dust them in speed and responsiveness.
I don't really like the icons so much but I can easily overlook them with the huge increase in speed, stability over CM and the latest (1.8.1) with Wildmonks kernel gives me better battery life than I have EVER had.

I really like MIUI for a couple of reasons. The ability to create folders on the home screen makes finding my apps faster and more organized, as I like to load down my phone with more apps than I ever would really use. I also really like what they've done with the dialer and in-call menu, as it gives you bigger buttons and indicators for Bluetooth connectivity and such. I've lost track of how many times I've forgotten to turn on Bluetooth prior to making a call, and ROMs based on the stock Froyo only have the small icon on the status bar to let you know whether Bluetooth is connected, so I often ended up sitting there listening to silence for a few seconds before realizing the problem. Even answering a call is somewhat easier, as you swipe down instead of sideways, and that's especially useful for the times when I'm asleep and get awoken by a call.
Then there's always the other assorted UI improvements that aren't particularly necessary, but still cool nonetheless. There's a cool visualizer that plays along with your music on the lock screen, in addition to controls on the lock screen for your music. The stock wallpapers are really nice too, and after using CyanogenMod I started getting tired of seeing the color cyan. The top bar is transparent too, so it will always look nice with whatever wallpaper you choose. Despite taking some cues from Apple's iOS UI, I actually think MIUI does it better.
The look of the icons is my only gripe with MIUI, but that can be changed with themes of course. Speed wise, I haven't noticed a whole lot of improvement, and I think that's because I don't often have many apps all running at once. What really matters to me is usability, and in that department MIUI shines, and hopefully will only get better.

I use the miui rom as well with Launcher Pro. The Battery life rocks. thats my main reason I use it.

earlyberd said:
..... The ability to create folders on the home screen makes finding my apps faster and more organized....
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I thought we've always been able to do this with even a stock n1, no? I never use it, but thought it's always been there.
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I did it I flashed it made it like I had it before. Seems little zippy. I like the lock screen. We will see how everything works in couple of days.
Is there a theme for this Rom?

sl8125 said:
Okay I did some research on the Rom. Everyone raves about the speed and how battery last longer then the stock or cm6 roms. It looks very iphony to me. How smooth is the Rom? How is it working out for you miui users. Is it worth the time? I am very satisfied with cm6. Haven't thought of switching but I want to give it a try. Please let me know.
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it is not hard hard to make a nadroid backup, flash a rom and try it, if you don't like it, may be go back?. People's inputs are biased and you may have a different experience than what others tell you.
One thing is sure, MIUI rom is more composed than the stock experience you get from CM.

sl8125 said:
Okay I did some research on the Rom. Everyone raves about the speed and how battery last longer then the stock or cm6 roms. It looks very iphony to me. How smooth is the Rom? How is it working out for you miui users. Is it worth the time? I am very satisfied with cm6. Haven't thought of switching but I want to give it a try. Please let me know.
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Meh. Tried it, didn't like it. Went back to CM nightly. MIUI is not in any way faster or better on battery than CM or stock rom. That's all hype and placebo. And imo, LauncherPro2 is way better than MIUI launcher.
But, some people like it, and I'm glad we have a choice.

DarkDvr said:
Meh. Tried it, didn't like it. Went back to CM nightly. MIUI is not in any way faster or better on battery than CM or stock rom. That's all hype and placebo. And imo, LauncherPro2 is way better than MIUI launcher.
But, some people like it, and I'm glad we have a choice.
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I agree. I was using miui not so long back, and its certainly a nice rom, and unlike many,i certainly don't mind the iphone look. However, the talk of it being faster and having better battery life than others is incorrect. I'm now using geos frg83 rom which is largely stock, and the speed and battery life are identical. I decided to start using that as I got sick of constantly updating newer versions of the rom, and all the issues it used to bring. However it is a very polished rom, but with ginger bread around the corner, I will just hold off until then.
As an out of the box rom though it is very nice and polished.

i am using cm 6.1 rc1 right now
thought id try out the nightly and the miui rom tonight
i know u can back up and restore msgs and data using titanium backup
but i heard tht u cant do tht when u shift from cm to miui rom
is it true ???
my msgs are really important and i wont b flashing miui if thts the case
thnx

aasheet said:
i am using cm 6.1 rc1 right now
thought id try out the nightly and the miui rom tonight
i know u can back up and restore msgs and data using titanium backup
but i heard tht u cant do tht when u shift from cm to miui rom
is it true ???
my msgs are really important and i wont b flashing miui if thts the case
thnx
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As far as am aware the messaging thing used to be an issue a few updates ago but I think it's fine now. Maybe someone else could clarify. If anything perform a nandroid backup just in case.
I personally think that miui currently outshines the rest, it's my rom of choice on my n1.

ya , ill give it another try
thnx , i just miss the 3d app drawr in launcher pro

Trying to decide on a ROM

CM6.1 or MIUI (probably Rod's).
I do like the look of MIUI but I'd rather have the fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality.
These are both looking very good indeed these days.
So which one and why?

try them both a decide for yourself that's what its all about...you r just gonna get back and forth comments/bickering asking a question like that in here..try searching next time

Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong

You won't get many replies.
WHY?
Everyone will most likely tell you to just try it yourself.
Every ROM in my sig has proven to be stable. I like to try different ones out.
As long as you are rooted, and have a custom recovery installed, nothing is stopping you from doing a nandroid backup and playing with a new ROM.
"fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality."
That's all up to you. What you may consider "greatest functionality" may be bloat to someone else.
Personally, I really liked MIUI by Rodriquez.

ksc6000 said:
Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong
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Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.

why not cm 6 R2 ? (or nightlys)

If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.

I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.

cpm said:
Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.
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Geo's ROM's are great, I had one for quite a while. I don't know why you're getting issues with Enom's ROM, but it is very very stable. That's the reason people who use it, use it over CM. My uptime on my phone gets up to 100 hours without any force closes or issues, and even then it's me, I'm just flashing something else or changing a feature which requires reboot.

Geo's roms have been light, fast & very stable for me!

codesplice said:
I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.
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Yes, I love Kang-o-rama

Well I tried the MIUI one (Rod's) and it just rebooted on me for no reason today.
Looks like it's CM6.1 next for me.
I was using Geo's then I got a message saying it wanted to do an update, then failed, but I could not get rid of that message.
Perhaps I should have got a Desire as I do like Sense, but the Sense ROM for the N1 was not stable IMO.

I'm using Rod's MIUIMOD 1.9.1(with wildmonks kernel) and never had a single reboot or stability problem.
Also, i've tried Enomther and MicroMOD's(also the Desire SuperHybrid) ROMs, and they were stable for me.
If all were unstable in your case, then maybe you're doing something wrong.
Did you for example wipe three times from recovery before flashing a completely different ROM?
In the past i've also had stability problems when using titanium backup to restore settings, so keep that in mind.
Also, you could try to use different kernel with somewhat higher voltage ( wildmonks for example http://wildmonks.whoisthedrizzle.com/kernel/2.6.35/112610/Custom_Kernels/ ).
Most ROM"s use kernel which are slightly under-volted to increase battery life(1050mv is the default stock kernel voltage if I remember correctly), but some devices don't like the lower voltages.

Should be clear, I never tried the ones you mentioned, it was the NXsense one I tried - it had a few silly little bugs but nothing major, just enough to be somewhat annoying.
Yes I do wipe, and am using the wildmonks kernel now.

I'm using stock MIUI with english pack and in my opinion...is more stable and smoother than CM 6.1... I check out CM rom yesterday and the ADW launcher still sucks..and Launcher Pro haven't adjust very well with some of the new effects and setting that CM have put in...my opinion MIUI stock..(not Rods Rom) with english pack...way better for now...and if you are a Launcher Pro fan...works awesome with MIUI....just my opinion
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IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.

SamUserInterface said:
If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.
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Why is the theming awesome? I have yet to see a MIUI theme that themed the whole ROM. The ugly dialer, MMS and Contacts app are always left out. Most of the themes are just icons and wallpaper.
As to the UI if it is so great why do most use Launcher Pro with it. To me... JMHO it looks like Windows 3.1 with a splash of color

DarkDvr said:
IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.
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Yup!
Windows 3.1 with a bunch of apps that look like the team never had a meeting

Definitely enomther's the official.
Tried CM, was ok, a tad unstable at times and I'm not a nightly person. If you want a rom to use for at least a month, don't use something that doesn't have a Final build and has to undergo nightly revisions. I got sick of having to flash CM everytime a nightly comes out.
I dislike MIUI. Enough said. Up to personal preference. Really dislike the iphoney crap.
If you want a somewhat stable sense rom, I recommend Evil's NXSense.
Like most others here have said, you gotta try them out to decide.

I originally tried a bunch of Roms and didn't like all the "bloat". I settled on Geo's rom because it basically is a pre-rooted and ready to go stock rom with some little bonuses.
After a while I tried MIUI's because of the newer UI. I quickly lost interest with the quirky lockscreen, phone, and messaging apps. I used Launcher Pro as I hate the cluttered iPhone desktop. Dialer Oned out the phone from the same lack of dial-by name and quirky facebook intergration. I tried Stock MIUI and Rods (I liked Rods).
Then I settled on CM6.1 which had the nice customizable dropdown menu toggles, taskbar color modifications, and additional features that were available.
Since I've seen the new MIUI theming capabilities but I don't think I'm quite ready to switch from CM's. I use the nightlies now and I'm now using a lot of the tweaks that I know I will ultimately regret on other roms.
But this is the perk of a Nexus. I just download and keep a bunch of roms on my phone's SD card... able to switch to whatever in minutes. Thus don't be afraid to do the same.
Also what I've learned is that no matter what rom you use, once you install Dialer One and Launcher Pro... they all feel the same aside from the little perks one may offer over the other.

To rom or not to rom

That is the question.
Is it worth installing CM7 on a nexus S or is it better to just leave it as stock gingerbread (if you dont need the small amount of extra features)?
Also how would one go about 'formatting' a nexus S?

I bought the nexus s for the pure Google experience so I don't see a reason for installing a rom.
If I want another rom ill bit a better handset with better specs and build quality.
My 2 cents.
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You can have stock Gingerbread with CM7, you just have to reinstall the Launcher2.apk and remove (or just dont use) ADW Launcher.
I prefer custom ROMs/Kernels because they feel more snappy than completely stock.

I was using CM7 nighties since I got it. I'm not using stock rooted 2.3.3 rom and I don't see myself going back to nighties anytime soon.

All my other android phone I couldn't use without cm6/7. I lived for the stock Android. Now that this phone is 100% stock out of the box, I haven't had a reason to flash cm7 yet. I've had little to no problems and im satisfied with the stock rom.
Still gotta root though.
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I dib and dabble just to try but I always come back to stock
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CM7 is still a bit unstable, I had it for 2 days and the phone rebooted at least 6 times(and 2 of those times it was stuck, had to pull the batteries out). Also, if you do use the RC1, don't volunteer to provide anonymous usage info as it makes it even more unstable.
I would recommend going with Kimera. Much more stable, very lite (ofc, that means you have to install a few more apps then usual).

The Nexus S with 2.3.x is the first phone I've not fell any compulsion to use a custom rom, even CM. CM7 might be interesting to me once it's out as an official release build, but I'm not sure even then. With previous phones I wouldn't consider running stock at all once the big boys brought their roms out for them, but Android 2.3.3 with Launcher2 is pretty darn good in my opinion.
Same for custom kernels, sort of. I didn't feel the need for one, but I have tried netarchy to get the Voodoo enhancements. I'm currently stock kernel, but have just downloaded the latest 2.3.3 netarchy to give it a whirl again.

there really is no reason to not use custom ROM. for example when cyanogen 7 gets finalized, it includes DSP audio manager boost, 720p video camera with enhanced settings, etc. those are crucial functions that work spectacularly. since its free, there's no reason to avoid those and use stock shen it increases functionality at no cost.

im running cm7 and i love it
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Paul's modaco rom is pretty stock look and feel but has 3G sip and a few small other tweaks. I like it. Can't really tell the difference from stock.

I can only speak from my limited experience, having ditched my Milestone for the Nexus. Having the option to put a custom ROM on the phone was enticing, even though I had no problem with stock ROM. I used ROM Manager, and did the no-loss root method, made a backup, and then did wipe and installed CM7 RC1.
Things I liked: power control widgets in status bar. The fact it introduced me to ADW Launcher and the vast library of themes on the market (I've been happy using LauncherPro so hadn't got to ADW yet). The smaller, more columns app drawer. I liked the fact it went about downloading all the apps I had I wiped. Overall it was a very smooth intro to custom ROMs.
Things I didn't like: apps placed in the dock would lose their custom icon (don't know if this was ADW or CM7's fault). Car home didn't work. Knowing that 2.3.3 will be available OTA soon and my phone wont get it while I am non-stock.
I kept using CM7 for about 5 days and had no crashes, but went back to stock today as none of the other features are of particular interest. Having power control in notifications area is nice, but it's not that much harder just to use widgetsoid and place them on a home screen (which is what I always do).
Anyway, horses for courses. Obviously some love it, but me I was meh. I have no problem with the speed and smoothness of stock, and didn't notice any increase when using CM7.

The Most Stable/Customizable ROM??

Hey all...I was wondering what people thought was the most stable/customizable rom out there? I'm currently using CM7 stable..and not to happy with it at all. I usually use MODACO's ROMS and have been very pleased....I just want something new, and fun...Any suggestions?

If you usually use Modoco, and have tried CM7, I guess only thing left to feel something "different & customizable" is the latest Miui.
Very stable and fast for me, and there are a bunch of themes. I highly recommend using Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher, as the built in launcher is what turns people away and in my experience is the source of instability. You can even cherry pick any aspect from between themes using the built in Theme Manager. Oh and on the latest version, I got 37 hours of normal use .
It's quite different. On MIUI now because I like the animations and built in exclusives:
File Manager with awesome indexing and great FTP
Music App is nice, scrolling lyrics are a cool feature
MIUI Gallery is slow at times, but lets you easily hide and unhide media folders.
MIUI Cam is nice too, reminds me of sense camera.
Phone/Contacts/SMS app are awesome as default android is lacking.
Lockscreen is visually nice.
I dislike the default launcher and the search!!
Niether are better, CM7 or MIUI, its all part of the fun of owning a great android phone. You get bored after a few months, you switch it up!

If you want stable, go CM6...
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MIUI,all the time
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MIUI is nowhere near stable or bug-free. At least on Froyo it wasn't. And I don't believe that changing to a buggier Gingerbread as a base added stability to it.
If you want fun - go for it, in the worst case - keep your nandroid at hand.
If you want stability - stay with Froyo ROMs, CM6 or Enomther's. But it won't be fun then.

Yeah, I'm one of the people that have an amazing experience with MIUI, but others aren't so lucky. so like the guy above
Miui for new, fun and customizability
CM6 or Enom for guaranteed stable.

I've also had a great experience with MIUI. But, u'll only know by trying/flashing!

Thank you to all who responded. CM7 is going okay for me. I really like the customized features. But I'm having a terrible time with the Bluetooth feature. Every time I'm on a call, either the end user can't hear me or they hear static. I tried changing my kernel to REDSTAR, but yes, it made my phone screaming fast, but still I have the BT issue.
What do you all think of KANG-0-RAMA ROM? I'll check out the more stable roms you guys mentioned. I'm not a fan of MIUI only b/c I dont like the iPhone look. But what do you all like about cm6? and I emother? Can you all please list what are the pros and cons of those two?
AGAIN THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!

Same for me wrt MIUI. Kinda think it stands for Mimic Iphone's User Interface ;p. If I wanted an IPhone, well u know the rest ...
I've been using CM7 since nightly #3 and been lucky that the wonk has generally stayed away. (I just jinxed it, didn't I .....)

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Same for me wrt MIUI. Kinda think it stands for Mimic Iphone's User Interface ;p. If I wanted an IPhone, well u know the rest ...
I've been using CM7 since nightly #3 and been lucky that the wonk has generally stayed away. (I just jinxed it, didn't I .....)
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What the hell is this wonk everyone is talking about?

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What the hell is this wonk everyone is talking about?
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http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20881-psa-lets-define-wonk-so-we-are-on-the-same-page/
Stop being lazy!

If you use ADW for MIUI or reformat/repartition sd card--wipe all several times-- and do fresh install--use VM Heap Tool and set it at 48--the new GB MIUI is very stable for me.
I use MyBackUp Pro to bu home screens etc and restore--so it didn't take long to get back up and running

Take a look to this room http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061648 I have been using it for a couples of days and it is really stable, I don't know that kind of customization do you like from cm7 or modaco roms, I used too but they have too many problems.

What about battery life? My screen is off and my phone doesn't sleep on CM7

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What about battery life? My screen is off and my phone doesn't sleep on CM7
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thats odd... sleeps for almost everyone else. might be an app that is constantly keeping your phone awake or your sync settings are really frequent. which would go hand in hand with battery life.

Hearing people say MIUI is stable blows my mind. I've never used a buggier rom... it's quite nice when it works though.
I find that since 2.3, there hasn't been any stable roms. I'm hoping CM 7.1 is better, as I find CM7 pretty bad.

I'm using CM 7 ExtremeMod 16.5.2011 + a2sd. so far its very stable and battery last long.
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Best custom rom w/o the crapware

which rom is the best without all the crap ware? Is there a rom out that just works? Flashing the rom without ever have to go into titianium to remove the unwanted appz...some of them you can't even remove from the rom. what ever app i want, I can just install it. CM and miui doesn't have crapware but not everything works. I don't want to have to install 3rd party software just to have certain feature works. All the other roms have crapware like facebook, peep, weather and news, desk clock, and etc... It beats the purpose of rooting your phone and at the same time custom roms may also have a lot of crapware.

well sometimes u cant always have what you want, you gotta compromise, or just learn to be a rom dev, and make your own?
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which rom is the best without all the crap ware? Is there a rom out that just works? Flashing the rom without ever have to go into titianium to remove the unwanted appz...some of them you can't even remove from the rom. what ever app i want, I can just install it. CM and miui doesn't have crapware but not everything works. I don't want to have to install 3rd party software just to have certain feature works. All the other roms have crapware like facebook, peep, weather and news, desk clock, and etc... It beats the purpose of rooting your phone and at the same time custom roms may also have a lot of crapware.
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LOL what third party software do you have to install with cm7? Cm7 works great without the need for anything.
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Once rooted, there is nothing you can't uninstall/delete with Root Explorer. Pick your fav ROM, buy Root Explorer and delete away. That said, you will have sense running in the background on anything that is not AOSP (unless you run a sense remover of some sort. I think Calkulin has one.)
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superm3 said:
which rom is the best without all the crap ware? Is there a rom out that just works? Flashing the rom without ever have to go into titianium to remove the unwanted appz...some of them you can't even remove from the rom. what ever app i want, I can just install it. CM and miui doesn't have crapware but not everything works. I don't want to have to install 3rd party software just to have certain feature works. All the other roms have crapware like facebook, peep, weather and news, desk clock, and etc... It beats the purpose of rooting your phone and at the same time custom roms may also have a lot of crapware.
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miks roms work but he keeps the crapware in there because some people like it and most keep it on there but move it to sd or whatever just so if someone does like it they can use it but its all uninstallable... i am with you though i go through many apps and remove them and gotta do it everytime but i dont care i could leave it if i wanted lol but dont use it so no need to

cm7+savaged-zen works great, the only thing that i have run into trouble with is the gps which is an easy fix with this New GPS drivers! v1.1

in my own opinion i love Miui i fell in love with it..
Miui with Savaged zen SBC(latest) Vipermod (flash Insanemode) Ram script Mod.Overclocked to 1.13ghz. my phone really feels better acts better games better Battery LASTS WAY LONGER...only problem no app drawer but you can always use zeam launcher that makes it even faster i think

Go with MikG man, it comes with some of the "crapware" but you can easily remove everything you don't want and the rom is phenomenal

EVO Deck is about one of the cleanest ROMs you can get; he strips CM7 clean of a lot of the stuff they add (language packs and stuff) so his zip file is pretty small.
I highly recommend his ROM if you want a good all-around AOSP experience; combined with Tiamat 3.3.7 it also gave me the best battery life of any ROM I've used.

Deck and SalvageMod are extremely lightweight
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I'd recommend Vaelpak. His 3.2 is a very solid senseless based Rom. His .2.2 is still in beta more or less but has been good so far. It is a complete aosp Rom.
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I've tried...
Deck
Vaelpak
Synergy
MIUI
All of which have been awesome in their own way. Deck was like the stock Android experience, Vael was like stock Android mixed with sense and a lot of options, Synergy is a really solid sense rom and MIUI is just a cool take on Android.

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I've tried...
Deck
Vaelpak
Synergy
MIUI
All of which have been awesome in their own way. Deck was like the stock Android experience, Vael was like stock Android mixed with sense and a lot of options, Synergy is a really solid sense rom and MIUI is just a cool take on Android.
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The newest Vaelpak is a GB based full aosp. The 3.2 (which I'm guessing is the one you have tried) is the senseless rom.
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MIUI is nice but no 4G so that's out.
CM7 is nice but not everything works perfectly, then its a find the best kernel that does this or that so that's out.
For me, I settled on Kings Alliance 2.1 with hybrid 3.0 on my EVO 4G. Everything works and well, battery life great, camera, 4G, wifi and tons of modifications if you want.
These are my opinions but for looks, simplicity, speed and not any bloatware right off the bat, try Kings..

waterbound said:
MIUI is nice but no 4G so that's out.
CM7 is nice but not everything works perfectly, then its a find the best kernel that does this or that so that's out.
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In fairness, I don't think there's any custom ROM not based on stock that works perfectly. There are always nagging little issues like auto brightness not working or having to run a driver fix for GPS with every CM nightly. You have to take the good with the bad.

Cyanogen works great for me without any problems
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OMFGB Nightlies are real good.. Android 2.3.5, different from CM. Has some interesting features and T-Moblie Theme Chooser
Also like Just_S said before, you can easily remove any app you don't want..
A good free app I've been using is Root App Remover FOUND HERE
D/L For OMFGB Nightlies HERE

Titanium Backup is good for uninstalling apps too.

flashing rom with all the crapware and uninstalling crapware through titianium backup, doesn't that slow down your phone? look at windows mobile and windows os. Installing an appz and uninstalling it slows down your phone by half. cm and miui doesnt have 4g. The last time I checked, both still have issue with 160 character and tethering issues.

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flashing rom with all the crapware and uninstalling crapware through titianium backup, doesn't that slow down your phone? look at windows mobile and windows os. Installing an appz and uninstalling it slows down your phone by half. cm and miui doesnt have 4g. The last time I checked, both still have issue with 160 character and tethering issues.
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I never noticed any slow-down from uninstalling apps. CM7 supports 4G on the EVO; I can't speak for all other phones. I never had any tethering issues when using any custom ROM.