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Pink spot is gone

Hi all,
S I downloaded another firmware update from Samsung apps - with date 11.06.2011.. Updated the camera and pink spot is gone, not even visible. My camera firmware is - OCEF 02 OCEED 11.. I had KE2 when i bought phone, updated via odin to KE7. Before this update i downloaded and installed all other updates that samsung apps offer..
Samsung made it!!

I downloaded the cam update from Samsung Apps today, my phone shows:
Cam FW Ver: OCEF02
Phone FW Ver: TBEC28
Pink spot still present. Posted pic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14965006&postcount=190

Guys, its mostly because of the hardware.. but possible software issue too.
try to clean the lense of your camera.
I noticed, that I sometimes had a big pink spot and most times nothing at all.
And after I cleaned it very good, it was gone most of the time, but for some reason not allways.. really strange, but it helped alot to clean the cam lense!
try it and post, if it helped!

hmm, thats strange.. I also had photos like you.. Are you on KE7? I installed one previouse update, i think it was something like firmware OC.. But i dindt install previouse camera samsung firmware 2 update or something like that..
I can see now clearly that phone is managing the white balance totally differnt than when pink spot was present..

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Guys, its mostly because of the hardware.. but possible software issue too.
try to clean the lense of your camera.
I noticed, that I sometimes had a big pink spot and most times nothing at all.
And after I cleaned it very good, it was gone most of the time, but for some reason not allways.. really strange, but it helped alot to clean the cam lense!
try it and post, if it helped!
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It's 100% a software problem but there are different cams out there so not all might be affected. To workaround and prove it's software just change the white balance to anything other than auto and the pink spot will be gone.

godutch said:
It's 100% a software problem but there are different cams out there so not all might be affected. To workaround and prove it's software just change the white balance to anything other than auto and the pink spot will be gone.
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Yeah, i know, would be nice though if cam would be usable with auto balance though Hopefully sooner or later there will be an update to fix that. Does your camera make 2 slight sounds when opening it and when switching to video mode ?

now you say it it used to but not anymore since i am on kf1
edit: it's back

godutch said:
It's 100% a software problem but there are different cams out there so not all might be affected. To workaround and prove it's software just change the white balance to anything other than auto and the pink spot will be gone.
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cool, didn't know that about the white balance.
I was really wondering about this pink spot issue.
The pink spot is part a hardware issue anyway, because the camlense glass (the one that protects the cam) is little bit of lila/pink if you look at it from different angles.

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cool, didn't know that about the white balance.
I was really wondering about this pink spot issue.
The pink spot is part a hardware issue anyway, because the camlense glass (the one that protects the cam) is little bit of lila/pink if you look at it from different angles.
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Sorry to disagree, but it can't be hardware as cam works perfectly if you don't use auto white balance mode. Pink spot appears only when you take photos of white things indoors with no flashlight or other source of light.

I even got the pink spot on my front cam, so it's got to be a software issue

The Samsung apps app said i have an update for my camera , the date is 22/06/11 , today, so i am currently flashing it i hope it does not kill my camera

Ok, maybe.. but check out the cam glass i talked about above.
It's a little lila/purple right ?

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Ok, maybe.. but check out the cam glass i talked about above.
It's a little lila/purple right ?
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don't know, can't check really nor if the firmware update fixed the pink spot, it's too dark

Depends on how the light reflects in the glass, now in my room with my light on i see it green, other times looks like a rainbow of colors.

Well the flash went OK, but i will not be able to test it till tomorrow as the pink spot appears to show up in daylight, I saw it against my white refrigerator
I don't know if this is a new update or not, as the Samsung apps app is still saying that there is still a update for my camera

The camera firmware update 11.6.01 went on fine. Not sure about the pink spot yet but have noticed when zoomed into a picture through the gallery you can now scroll left and right to the next picture without having to zoom out again. Is this new, if so it is much better.
There is still no mute shutter sound option though :-(
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Well the flash went OK, but i will not be able to test it till tomorrow as the pink spot appears to show up in daylight, I saw it against my white refrigerator
I don't know if this is a new update or not, as the Samsung apps app is still saying that there is still a update for my camera
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Check your cam firmware version, if it's OCEF02 you have the latest update installed.

Do you guys notice with the latest camera firmware (SCEF02) when filming the framerate drops massively when focusing?

Just check it`s OCEF02
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Check your cam firmware version, if it's OCEF02 you have the latest update installed.
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XdaPete said:
The camera firmware update 11.6.01 went on fine. Not sure about the pink spot yet but have noticed when zoomed into a picture through the gallery you can now scroll left and right to the next picture without having to zoom out again. Is this new, if so it is much better.
There is still no mute shutter sound option though :-(
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KF2 doesn't have any shutter sounds if you flash it. I just downloaded the camera update but battery is too low to test it, will keep an eye on any differences.

Pink bleeding from Camera LED Flash (NOT PINK SPOT)

Firstly, I'm not describing the same problem as the other camera threads. This is not:
Pink spot
Auto-focus issue
Video FPS issue
Here's my problem:
When taking photos using the main camera on my Galaxy S2, the resulting photo is fine if not using the LED flash. However, if the LED flash is used, there is pink "bleeding" or "banding" emanating from edge of the photo closest to the flash. This is almost like there is some leak of light between the housing of the LED flash and the camera module. This also occurs when taking video.
Apologies if I've missed the thread describing this issue, I've not found one that describes my issue as the main point. The closest I've come is this post, which was in a thread about the pink-spot issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18743136&postcount=132
I've tried re-flashing my camera firmware OMEF01 using factorytest.apk as someone else in a thread mentioned this worked for them on the assumption that the firmware had become corrupt somehow.
This didn't work, neither did trying the camera firmware update apk that was once found on Samsung Apps.
Example photos attached.

I'm having the same problem and can't find a way to fix this problem! It seems like a hardware problem so I'm taking my phone to samsung service center as soon as I reset binary counter!
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This is kind of a stupid suggestion but whatever:
try not holding your fingers near the flash, it will make a reflection and look like that.
If your hand isn't even near the camera or flash and that happens then it's a hardware problem. :/

Bonestack said:
This is kind of a stupid suggestion but whatever:
try not holding your fingers near the flash, it will make a reflection and look like that.
If your hand isn't even near the camera or flash and that happens then it's a hardware problem. :/
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Fingers are nowhere near flash or camera
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Hello,
Had my SGS2 for a month now (secondhand) and noticed the pink bleeding too. It only appeared on pictures indeed when using the flash. Since no solution could be found, i took of the back cover (removing the 7 screws and so on, see youtube for that).
My guess was, the lens was catching some flash light from the inner parts of the phone. So i tested the camera without the back cover and this time i could take pictures without pink bleeding.
I examined the layout of the inner parts and did some testing with extra materials to prevent the lens catching light from the flash with the back cover on. Eventually i found that a little piece of black foam adhesive with the length of the camera housing approx 10 mm by approx. 4 mm did it for me. I placed it on the side of the flash led between the lens housing and the led. The 4 mm width of the foam perpendicular on the system board, if that makes sense.
Now when placing the back cover again the protruding foam is squashed a little, making a nice seal between the led and camera housing.
If this solution will last i don't know, but for now i'm one happy flasher.

Here is the video showing the process of opening the back

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Here is the video showing the process of opening the back
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Thanks kokesh, for bumping this thread, it helped me fix this issue on my phone
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I've got a problem thats related to this one, but not the same.
I noticed that many (8/10 so far tested) Galaxy S2's have a peculiar slightly pinkish spot in center 40%. It's not very pronounced unless you photograph a white/gray wall or other object of equal color. It's tints objects or features slightly pinker in the center than it does outward, where colors are more spot-on.
It seems to be related to the age of the phones, since all newer models I've been able to test do not display it, yet older ones do. Either through wear & tear, or because older phones use older parts that exhibit this (slight) error. Since I'm a photographer I might be more picky than others with the image quality, and for the majority of people this is a non-issue.

Are there apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera app?

Hi, I don't know how various settings affect the results. However, I wish to be able to take excellent photos and videos under different conditions. Are there any good apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera App? I am using GB. Thanks

+1
Or 1up
Might be dependant on hardware cause of varying quality pics
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont feel that they are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg

I am happy with the stock camera.. Many features too
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Perhaps it is better to talk about this via samples.
Any suggestion on better camera settings is appreciated.
I guess I may need an app that stores a set of preset settings
for taking photos/videos under different environments. Thanks.
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
In photo 2, the room appeared to be dark but it was not.
I changed the flash to auto, on along with changing other
settings. The room still appeared to be dark.
In photo 3, again, that place was not dark. Setting the flash
to auto or on did not help.
In photo 4, everything including the room appears to be somewhat yellowish.
In reality, the wall is white and the pillows are gray.

madbird said:
what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont fell that the are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
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Thanks for the suggestion but I am not a professional. I don't know how various settings affect the results. By the time I have tested out various settings, things that I want to capture will have been gone.

ah now things are getting clearer . your pictures looks a little bit like something is wrong with the 'white balance' of your camera. so you can try different settings for the white balance, the default should be automatic (AWB). I'm not an photoexpert too, but maybe some one else can guide you further with this.

Thanks for pointing this out. I also tried white balance but it did not help. Perhaps I did not do it properly. Hoping somebody could provide some tips. Are the strong glares from the ceiling lights in photo 1 also caused by the white balance?

hajime_android said:
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this. You can try, like me, and use photoshop. For me, its no problem because I have used photoshop for many years, but others are not so fortunate. This fault is well documented. Samsung know about it, yet have done nothing to correct it. The only way is to send the unit back to the retailer for a new unit. I tried three or four brand new units and they were all the same.
In general. The camera has limitations because of its size and proximity to other circuitry that may introduce noise etc. Its 8megapix with a tiny lens, so as is, I feel it does a pretty good job (apart from that pink dot that is). To get better pictures, consider post processing with photoshop. If that's not an option, and quite frankly I would not recommend purchasing it just for pics from any camphone, try the GIMP, its free and does an awful lot to enhance your pics. You can find the GIMP here www.gimp.org it will run on linux, windows and the Mac
Hope that helps

So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.

hajime_android said:
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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Nope. sorry about that.

bigstarrynight said:
This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this.
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?

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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Good question. I know the S2 does, and we all know about the Galaxy Note. I can see evidence of the problem on a slashgear.com presentation, and its that presentation that stopped me from going over to the S3. However, there are plenty of youtube tests where it seems pretty good. The S3 has only just been released, so it might be a while more before any issues become apparent. I think its one where you try before you buy. Personally, I'm not touching either the S3 or the 'Note until I have proof that the issue has been resolved.
Edit. The fault is commonly known as "the pink dot"

In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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spfraggle said:
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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Well, there must be a lot of pink dirt around. My crappy clam phone must have pink dirt repellent, because no matter how greasy the lens gets, pics from it don't have a pink dot. Neither does my DSLR when the uv filter gets filthy, or my specs come to that. Sorry, but the dirt bit on this issue is a red herring. The camera has a defect.

I use UCam. A lot of "pro" settings and also some cool. And... you can disable shutter sound.
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i think you should send the device to service/repair, because i think this is an hardware issue. i saw a lot of pictures taken by the note (not only my own device) and they are al just fine with the standard settings.

I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens. Do you think this is the cause to all of my problems? Am I supposed to remove it? For the first few days after purchase (3 weeks ago), the Note took excellent photos. As for last week and the week before that, it depends. The thin protective film has been there right from the beginning. Let's say the protective film covering the lens caused the pink dot, how do you explain why the cafe in photos 2 and 3 appeared to be dark whereas in reality, it was not. Also, photo 4 looks yellowish overall.

Hi,
Protective film would most likely create the effect on pic one. (which would be visible when a direct light source or reflection is in the frame.)
Pic two - could be a metering issue. Try changing the (cog wheel =>) metering setting and / or exposure level.
Yellowish photo is the result of incorrect "white balance". Change the white balance setting to incandescent.
I'm using both the stock ICS camera and camera zoom fx. On my previous phone the fx produced much better photos than the stock one. On my G - Note I don't see much difference.
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hajime_android said:
I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens.
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Yes you are supposed to remove it. It does say so in the instructions that came with your phone. Check the camera after you have done this.

Note 4 camera won't lock focus + blurry edges on pictures with far focus

Hi everybody,
I've been using my Note 4 for a week. It's a great phone, great display, great performance and what I was convinced would be a great camera.
Before that I used a S3 (International version I9300) for two years and a S5 (International version G900F) for six months and nothing negative to say about them. They both gave great, clear, beautiful, sharp pictures, especially for a phone (I couldn't imagine it was possible before). I think it's important to say that so I can justify myself and show I'm not making up things...
I started to have doubts after a couple a days concerning the Note 4 camera. I found the pictures not sharp, especially in edges (kind of tilt-shift effect).
And then, yesterday, several XDA topics confirmed my concerns ...
So... To sum up :
Far pictures have blurry edges (I know lenses edges can be blurry, but in this case, when I mean blurry, I mean sometimes 1 third of the pictures... Close pictures and close-ups are great.
When taking pictures in landscape mode, focusing in the bottom third of the screen is just not possible, I can't see the focusing screen in this zone, as it did on the S3 or S5.
Locking focus has never been and is never possible (when trying to focus, I can see the focusing circle but I can't see or hear any green circle or sound confirmation (as it did on the S3 or S5, you can see my youtube video).
To make everything clear again, I (still) own a S3 and S5 with no camera problem, with a normal behaviour and we have two Note 4 at home with the exact same problems.
I have a master in digital photography and, being less picture enthusiastic and having not enough time, I replaced my equipment by these devices, and I was totally ok with that. (= I know I'm not making up things)
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/usfdln0o0odwdf7/20141214_115344.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thxhsawjxjbu05t/20141214_121610.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyxavgcj6qeyf28/20141207_101614.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5Axxp_UMY&feature=youtu.be
I assume the problem here may be part software and part hardware (but again, two Note 4 with same problems ?).
Could a Samsung rep take this problem serioulsy and take it into account for a next update ? (except if it's a hardware problem )
Thanks a lot for your attention !
Chris.

I'm pretty sure your device is faulty. The blur in your images is not normal, I guess the lens is not mounted correctly. This may also be the reason for your focusing problems.
Have a look at the photo thread, you'll see plenty of images without blur.

I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.

adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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im having the same problem with just focus on one part of the screen. other apps focuses fine though so its a software problem.
I use the google camera app alot cos stock samsung app seem to forget to use the flash even in dark rooms.

adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?

SiNJiN76 said:
I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?
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I still have stock ROM.
Are you also experiencing different focus zones in your pictures?
I'm really starting to think my camera is defective .

No. But did you make sure that you are not using Selective Focus Mode?

Yes, I did. All my tests and conclusions were based on my S3 and S5 experience

Well I read your post thoroughly and felt that you have written a reflection of what is going through my mind.
Exact same issues !! If you read my twitter feed ~ 10 days ago you will be happy to know that you are not alone.
I noticed the problem in the first 2 days of purchase and took it to a Samsung store few days later. They were very defensive initially but after 10 mins of technical conversation with a dude who did not know much about the difference between camera resolution and screen resolution I could show them the blur. Both on my phone and on a PC they had in store.
We did some like for like comparison with another note 4. Problem was evident.
They advice me to go back to service provider (Virgin Australia) and request a replacement under early life hardware failure.
I am now playing the to and fro game with my service provider who are throwing in all sort of hurdles. Hope I get a replacement !!!
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Just to show that I was really at the store
http://s27.postimg.org/ply8u686r/20141207_150515.jpg
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I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .

Typical problem of the Note 4's software.
I also opened a thread for discussing the matter - but people just did not understand the problem.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2948640
Just got nonsense replies.
Seems to be close to impossible making people understand the obvious... :/
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adinava said:
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...)
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Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?

Chefproll said:
Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?
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Yes Chefproll, here they are . Plus two new ones taken today.
See, when I focus on the left side of the screen, almost the rest of the picture is blurry and when I focus on the right side, the left part of the picture is blurry...
I assume the lens is off-center mounted :/...

Same case ...... see the photos ...

ebusuhejbi said:
I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .
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SO I found out from android central forums that if you shake it for like 30 seconds it works so obviously its a problem. I tried google camera and camera 360 and neither worked but my front camera is amazing. I'd suggest a swap for a brand new unit.

Mmahrous said:
Same case ...... see the photos ...
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They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?

lef7667 said:
They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?
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I was thinking the same too.
I own N910C and i don't have this issue at all. I know there are two types of camera lens in the note 4 one is Sony and the other one is Samsung. Maybe you have one of the others ?!

Glad i found this thread.. I have the exact same issue with my note 4. You need to be knowledgeable with photography in order to articulate the issue and identify the problem.. Most posts keeps talking about the protective film.... Arghh
However the issue is not constantly there for me... It's almost as if the lens module is mounted loosely, and it can go out of alignment relative to the sensor, creating a tilt shift effect.
Sometimes it seems if i shake the phone, or tap a few times on the camera lens, the issue goes away...
Very frustrating. Did you ever resolve it?
Thought it might be the ois acting up... However i couldn't disable it for stills...

I have the auto focus issue as well. shaking the device or tapping the bottom a few (hard) times makes the cam focus properly. Problem is there all the time, although after focussing properly gone, then reappearing after camera app close..

I've also noticed this issue. I have more problems focusing on the left (Samsung logo) side of my camera sensor. If I flip the phone over, the same side of the device produces blurry details while the other captures it crisp.
http://imgur.com/kEnHKg2
http://imgur.com/dF9jHBD
Notice how the bag is clear in one, blurry in the other. The Samsung logo side of my device seems to always be blurry in photos of objects about a meter or more away. I have been unable to focus altogether on distant objects where the entire image is blurry.

I've had the same problem and I asked for a replacement. It's a defective unit, now my phone's camera works great.

Disable Wide Angle Shots

Ok we all have the same phone and the same lense front and back
This is specifically for the FRONT camera ... we all know the pictures are distorted ... its squashed from the center and appears long at the edges...
owing to the fact that it has a Wide Angle Lense
Which looks very bad during selfies
We cant change the lense as its a hardware part.
But is there an app .. or can we develop an app that corrects the distortion created by the wide lense and give us a straigt propotional shot ?
Im uploading a picture from another website showing the distortion of the lense. its not my own pic.
As im into Bodybuilding and also i take a lot of selfies ... my pictures look weird on my phone compared to my friends. My body looks normal on friends phone whereas it looks out of propotion on mine.
Lets discuss this ... cause im seriously considering a iPhone 6 over this phone now. but obv im falling back cause of budget issues.

its weird No one else hates the Distortion during selfies ?

a small bump up

I doubt there will be any way to fix it if it is the lens itself, if it's firmware, custom ROMs might be able to do it, Xposed Framework etc
No idea how though, I had noticed I looked like Bruce Forsyth a while back, but never took much notice as I don't use the front camera for much more than daft pics on whatsapp anyway

Hi all,
I am also interested about the resolution of this feature: there's no way to disable the wide angle? you have found a solution?
thanks in advance