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currently running froyd and am happy with it just wondered whether someone has experience of both if so whats the differences between the two and which is best overall? Not interested in overclocking or anything really technical. thanks
I know someone will say it, so I might as well be first. Rather don't ask people, but instead grab a copy yourself and test it out. It's really based on your own opinion. Each ROM works differently for others.
With features such as nandroid backups these days, there really isn't much of an excuse for not trying out alternative ROMs. If you like it, then keep it. If not, then nandroid back. However, with that said, I think both are on par with eachother and both have achieved outstanding results. It really breaks down to the small things, which you'll need to experience yourself.
ok thanks 1 problem though cant see an option to download the fusion rom?
At this stage its kinda like comparing apples with worms in with pears with worms in..
Yes its different fruit but the bugs are the same..
I haven't tried either so feel free to shoot me down but the reason for this is that I feel devs are focusing on getting everything working (which is a good thing). But because of this I feel theres not really one 2.2 rom that particularly stands out..
I'd love to be proven wrong though!! still rocking out on cm6 nightlies....
both are same
i had fusion first and later came fryod so installed fryod expecting abetter but was really disappointed because both rom turned to be exactly same, same problems in both rom just looked like fryod was a copy of fusion just a different name. now i see fusion got update but fryod is still with same problem.
known issues-
camera is only 3mega pixels
no camera preview and force closes.
crashes when u try to view a flash video
no live wallpaper
no touck key to answer a call.
thiese problems are with both fusion and fryod
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
wrong in fusion rom have touch key to answer call
adwinp said:
Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
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Good, just like it should be
developing said:
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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Dito.
adwinp said:
Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
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Some more respect to the real developers.
I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
Hehe, I guess he got a reputation? Please let my previous comment slip then
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Dito.
Some more respect to the real developers.
I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
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Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.
There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.
CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.
Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.
@orangeclanz:
I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.
Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.
For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....
Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......
anyway, back on topic.
for me, difference is:
fusionrom 2.2 update 4 works great. really solid now. aside from borked camera, once you receive a phone call the trackball light notification works, the froyo-style apps2sd works (with the included cyanogenmod6 improvements allowing any app to be pushed to sd that way). it's very fast (4.5 to 4.7 linpack for me stock withotu the software overclock kernel mod). apps and games run amazingly well on it. has an issue where system.process.media (or similar) fcs after a while and after trying the gallery. I think that might be a gallery issue and maybe will be fixed soon, I don't know though. saw the same issue in froyd once but not again later?
froyd 1.0 works... ok, but it's slow. it has very nice features, the ext partition apps2sd support is nice to have (no manual file moving needed). however there are reasons to like manual moving as well, I'm a control freak, good to let me decide where to put it. but this ext parition method is certainly easier, really fast and transparent. nice. however the kernel is slow, 3.5 linpack (slow for froyo). also lots of random slowdowns. experimental kernel flash works really well and is very fast (got 5.1 linpack at 729 mHz on my phone). I did encounter some issues, not sure if it was my clock speed (which was always fine @ 729 on 2.1 roms but could be the issue still with jit froyo pushing it harder maybe). issues were google nav and some 3d games just quitting without warning and without fc messages. just quitting. google nav was serious, I was driving and it was just... gone after a few minutes. game was annoying, was playing monopoly, 20 minutes of playing, then just gone with no record of gameplay :-(. again that could be my cpu speed setting though, haven't tried further.
both ahve borked camera and no video (since video is just a recording of the screen preview... why on earth can't they write a REAL video recorder for android on the hero??? it should be possible... stupid screen capture video...)
Having tried both Froyd and Fusion, I went back to the CM nightly builds. The 20/07 build is pretty much there with everything except the camera and fb sync working. Have sorted this by using camera magic and syncmypix.
for me, this one is fast snappy and definitely the best 2.2 around currently.
@adwinp. U right.I'm not in position to comment here.so do u. Pls show some respect to other dev. As a dump user here.I do appreciate and respect all Dev works. At least I don't called it CRAP.
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adwinp said:
Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.
There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.
CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.
Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.
@orangeclanz:
I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.
Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.
For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
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Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..
Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
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Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..
Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
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Once, more, you're misinterpreting; crap was related to the CM-rips, not CM itself.
I hope I made myself clear.
by the way, this thread really should be about which is better between:
froyd
fusionrom
cm-nightlies
the cm-nightlies are, imho, ahead of the rest. but they're nightly builds so you take a big gamble when you grab one and install it. However if there is going to be a successful camera fix my bet is that it will come from the cm-nightlies for hero team.
Just saying.... but for me I'm running fusion until some major progress happens from... someone
cheers
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Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....
Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......
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There's no mention of me asking for money, nor have I charged for any release. There's no begging, whatsoever infact. I mention it in my sig - but who doesn't?
I am a bit fed up of all the bad-mouthing I'm getting around here recently. We've not ripped anyone off.
We're in the process of making some pretty major changes/fixes to FroydVillain, and one of our developers is currently re-compiling a Froyo ROM from source - ie, pure vanilla.
As for which ROM is better... they're different. When we release our new kernel, expect over 5 mflops at a stable OC of around 748 Mhz.
Test them both, but before you make a judgement on Froyd, test it with the new (fixed) kernel - which is significantly better than the one Lox released. Ninpo over at the VillainROM forums will be more than happy to explain what makes it significantly faster if anyone's interested!
Anyway... less hate is definitely required around here
Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?
Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.
It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.
I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion
Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
Kubernetes said:
You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.
Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.
Just made the jump to my DHD from my HD2, was cheffing for the HD2 for 18 months so thought i would start again LOL
i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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gosh darnit i have put this in the wrong section, would a MOD mind miving it to the rom development section please
Unable to comply mate as any "ROM coming soon" thread is not allowed. Feel to post your downloadable file on this thread, PMme and "then" I'll send your thread to the right area.
Cheers,
M_T_M
PS: Do not post a thread over in development 'till your ROM is ready to be released, please.
No problem, on thinking about it it is probably better here until I release anyway!
How about cm7 with fixes and all since cn7 looks a helluva lot better than froyo
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Yeah man,MrYuiM is right.Gingerbread is a lot better and more nice looking.Froyo AOSP is ugly butt.Plus,I think you should release it anyway;New roms are always welcome around here!
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i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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I appreciate you've probably put a lot of work into this for your own use, but all your really proposing is CM 6.1.3 with all the crap removed and some tweaks thrown in, I agree with the latter posters that you'd better serve the community by getting your development prowess behind teamdouche in the push towards CM7 stable than releasing this.
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
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already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
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Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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AndroHero said:
Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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Hmm, he might be lightening, we never know. What we really do need is a CM7 ROM with Lee/Mike/Segio's performance and tweaks included. Now that is a ROM from heaven But Lewarne, your work is much appreciated
i shall say nothing other than let my reputation with HD2 roms speak for itself
i wont release it for a while though
Patience is a virtue I'll look at your HD2 ROMS
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
If u can get one of the recent battery drain fixes for cyanogenmod in ur Rom I certainly would love to try ur Rom, performance tweaks in combination with battery fixes sounds good to me!
Looking forwArd to seeing ur work in action
i was living quite fine with froyo, before flash cm7, some tweaks are really hard to leave. specially long press in search button to open an app and long press in back button to close an app... and beside it, i'm getting 3~5 mAh of battery draining with mad patch in gb and with stock cm6 kernel it is 12~14...
these are the main 'problem' with cm froyo build for me! =oP
i agree with you that cm7 is really unstable when compared to froyo, cm7 has wi-fi problems, gps problem, rotate problems, radio problem... quite annoiyng to be fixing point by poiint.
if you realese your rom, certainly i'll flash, but i think your knowledge would be more appreciated fixing issues from cm7. =o)
I am sure the inspire 4G community would appreciate it as well .
g.lewarne said:
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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I see where you're coming from, but also remember the drivers for the GPU for gingerbread haven't been released, nor have any of the other drivers I think. Maybe this could affect performance as the old ones are in use?
g.lewarne said:
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
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i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
Life Engineer said:
Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
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Yo just to jump in. I have no problems with any of those, but I haven't really used the GPS and if there is a problem I do what many others do and install the GPS Status Toolbox Build quality for me is perfect and it looks smexy
Any updates mate?
As in...is there one?
I want to go back to a 2.2 ROM I particularly like, but I don't want to lose performance coming from the 2.2.1 ROM I'm currently on ...
Anyone have experience with both and want to weigh in?
Haints said:
As in...is there one?
I want to go back to a 2.2 ROM I particularly like, but I don't want to lose performance coming from the 2.2.1 ROM I'm currently on ...
Anyone have experience with both and want to weigh in?
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I personally have never reallt noticed a performance difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1, I think they are too close to really notice. However the Vibrant had an official 2.2 drop so it would probably be closer to stock...
I will say I have been using Simpy Honey and CM7 alot and decided to give a few Froyo roms a go and the performance lose is very noticeable when leaving 2.3 for 2.2..
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I personally have never reallt noticed a performance difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1, I think they are too close to really notice. However the Vibrant had an official 2.2 drop so it would probably be closer to stock...
I will say I have been using Simpy Honey and CM7 alot and decided to give a few Froyo roms a go and the performance lose is very noticeable when leaving 2.3 for 2.2..
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Thanks for responding!
Performance loss coming from 2.3? I've read that Gingerbread is more demanding on system memory and actually runs slower--at least in terms of gaming--than Froyo ...
Is that not so?
Haints said:
Thanks for responding!
Performance loss coming from 2.3? I've read that Gingerbread is more demanding on system memory and actually runs slower--at least in terms of gaming--than Froyo ...
Is that not so?
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Cm7 is better for gaming then froyo but touch wiz gb is slower an horrible fps is very jumpy an creates uncomfortable play
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Jasonhunterx said:
Cm7 is better for gaming then froyo but touch wiz gb is slower an horrible fps is very jumpy an creates uncomfortable play
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Simply Honey is a Twiz based 2.3 rom and it is very smooth and hold a solid 58 fps for me at least.. infact its much more stable than CM7 as long as you get past the confusing install procedure..
Haints said:
Thanks for responding!
Performance loss coming from 2.3? I've read that Gingerbread is more demanding on system memory and actually runs slower--at least in terms of gaming--than Froyo ...
Is that not so?
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Massive difference.. CM7 is very smooth and now that everything works it is a great choice. When I went back to a 2.2 rom I noticed the occasional screen scrolling lag and little things like that that you do not see on 2.3..
Note that every ones experience is different..
PJcastaldo said:
Massive difference.. CM7 is very smooth and now that everything works it is a great choice. When I went back to a 2.2 rom I noticed the occasional screen scrolling lag and little things like that that you do not see on 2.3..
Note that every ones experience is different..
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+1 to this!
CM7 is a massive improvement over ANY 2.2 or 2.2.1 ROM. Give it a shot, it's great!
Is GPS fully working on CM7 now?
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Simply Honey is a Twiz based 2.3 rom and it is very smooth and hold a solid 58 fps for me at least.. infact its much more stable than CM7 as long as you get past the confusing install procedure
Well not in my experience an depends what game on 9mm with tweaks twiz roms are good but cm7 is just fast out of box
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creeve4 said:
+1 to this!
CM7 is a massive improvement over ANY 2.2 or 2.2.1 ROM. Give it a shot, it's great!
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i have only flashed 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms as I always thought the process of flashing a 2.3 or downgrading from 2.3 seemed confusing... messing with bootloaders and stuff??
is it not hard to flash from 2.2 to 2.3 or CM, or downgrading from 2.3/CM back to 2.2?
not trying to hijack thread, just figured this seemed like a good place to ask rather then posting a separate thread
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i have only flashed 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms as I always thought the process of flashing a 2.3 or downgrading from 2.3 seemed confusing... messing with bootloaders and stuff??
is it not hard to flash from 2.2 to 2.3 or CM, or downgrading from 2.3/CM back to 2.2?
not trying to hijack thread, just figured this seemed like a good place to ask rather then posting a separate thread
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You aren't hijacking the thread as I am interested in an answer to this as well.
I think installing CM7 sounds pretty easy as described below. Not sure about reverting back though ...
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32477-cyanogenmod-7-for-the-samsung-vibrant-v7101-10-oct-2011/
Hello there!
I have another goodie from the Honey Series for our Tabs! While the previous one was a HC rom, now we are heading towards Ice Cream Sandwich! I have created a CWM Flashable Add-on. This addon was firstly something created to simply add eye candy to ICS. But I felt that was not enough. Smoothness is another very important part. This is my changelog:
Added Asus Transformer Icons for Back, Home and Recent apps
Added advanced toggles for WiFi, BT and other stuff to the notification bar just like in CyanogenMod.
Added a smoother Launcher2.apk ported from Motorola Xoom
SystemUI.apk is also new. A bit smoother, I would say
New cool walpapers!
Build.prop tweaks removed from Galaxian Soup ROM are back! Together with a couple of new ones and some sorted out thanks to motley.
In the next versions, I am planning to add some better wallpapers, work on speed even more to push ICS to its very best.
THE DOWNLOAD LINKS ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POST
Gapps
As I have said in the Galaxian-soup forum, there will be new gapps incoming. I should post this in their, but you'll see it there when nycbjr accepts them. For those who can't wait, the download like is down there! These gapps add the ICS Voice search and give you the newest versions of apps availiable.
I will be updating this post every day, and so will I my builds, so you will get all sorts of stuff daily.
Compatibility: This was tested on Galaxian-Soup v0.9 and 1.5, but I feel any Galaxian soup rom should be fine. I think that it should work with CM9 too, but no guarantee. Just dont flash it into HC
Gapps Download Link:
https://rapidshare.com/files/232891362/GalaxianGapps_v2.1.zip
ADDON DOWNLOAD LINK
https://rapidshare.com/files/2653944232/HoneyFeats_0.2.2.zip However it may say that it is 0.2, it is 0.3!
Take Care,
Tom
thanks mate. will flash this over my CM9 install and see how it runs! will report back!
How is it going? Pseudoheld, since you are in Europe, you'll be getting this as a Monday morning surprise! That's the release time.
hey man really can't wait to try it!!
Uploading....
Download links posted!
Just reflased gsoup and starting from scratch to get the best results
Ill report back
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flashed it on top of CM9. worked fine so far.
ran a benchmark (antutu) at 1,5ghz before and after flash, and lost some points in just about every aspect. ( i know its not very representative but anyhow here goes)
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after 6139
I'll do that. Tell me how it goes.
Some Update! I managed to replace walllpapers, so you will have new wallpapers in the wallpapers folder. Tested and ported some from HTC Jetstream and we will see what more can I get! Also, I have added a custom Launcher Made by me. Even smoother!
pseudoheld said:
flashed it on top of CM9. worked fine so far.
ran a benchmark (antutu) at 1,5ghz before and after flash, and lost some points in just about every aspect. ( i know its not very representative but anyhow here goes)
before 6239
after 6139
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Yea. It is because of some build.prop tweaks we have cancelle in galaxian soup. I put them back. They will put down your Benchmark score, because they keep the launcher i the memory. One of the wars to make the launcher more responsive. I have a new version with new cool wallpapers and more build.prop tweaks which should put your score back up. And also, remember that those little point differences are pretty much random.
Update Posted. Performance improved.
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And also, remember that those little point differences are pretty much random.
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yeah i know they aren't very representative. just thought id let you know.
sadly im not much of a fan of the transformer icons...also the mail icon looked very strange for me. hardly recognizable it was so dark :S
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You talk about V0.3 ? Because there is just link for 0.2.
Yes. Fixed now. I added a note there. Sorry if it says 0.2. It says 0.2.2. Officially its 0.3, but I call it 0.2.2, because 0.3 is my other text version so i dont confuse myself
Pseudoheld, After the performance Improvement, I got 6690 on AnTuTu. Pretty big leap. I put governor performance 1500mhz.
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Yes. Fixed now. I added a note there. Sorry if it says 0.2. It says 0.2.2. Officially its 0.3, but I call it 0.2.2, because 0.3 is my other text version so i dont confuse myself
Pseudoheld, After the performance Improvement, I got 6690 on AnTuTu. Pretty big leap. I put governor performance 1500mhz.
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cheers will try again
Hope it goes well. Anybody else, please feel free to give me your feedback
system ui stopt
hello i have a problem i flash the 0.30 and no i got a worning system ui stopt dos somone now what to do thanks
my rom is ]Galaxian-Soup/7300][beta 1.5.1]
Battery life question
How long is battery?
Thanks for your great work, but please use another hoster. Rapidshare is so slow...