So is it true that if you root/rom your kindle fire it is impossible to remove and go back to a completely untouched stock version?
I have heard rumors of this and i'm very curious. I already rooted mine, does that mean i can never get it back to untouched stock if i need to?
A more clear explanation would be wonderful.
Root lets you do just about everything. Unrooting being one of them.
There is a video in the Development section that shows you exactly how to return your Kindle to bone stock.
when you root you gain system root access. basically like read/write, and you become the "admin" so to speak. so unrooting is possible just by removing your access.
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i am on official 2.2 update, and i am rooted. now i want to unroot my phone and put everything all back to the way it was when i first bought my phone. dont ask why, i just want to so who knows how? i completely regret ever rooting my phone in the first place, i just want everything to all go back to normal......
well you can only go back to 2.2 OTA. You can't get back to 2.1 now that you have the OTA. Go here to restore your system back to fresh OTA state. Not sure if it will still be rooted or not but i think it wont. Can't help if it doesn't get rid of root maybe check out rootzwiki.com and see if they have a way.
Apologies if this is a noob question. I didn't see any obvious answer to this, and I'm guessing I"m not the only one to question this.
I have a rooted stock 2.2, rooted with Unrevoked3. Now that there's a root exploit for GB, I'm trying to make sense of what I need to do to get the OTA installed.
Reading through the Unrevoked site, it looks like I need to find the appropriate .img first to restore me back to original? And Unrevoked's site directed me back here, but i didn't see where to find the correct file.
Second, I assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, that I simply copy the correct .img file back to my phone (which directory?) and boot up into recover to restore? At that point, i'll be able to get and update with the OTA?
-Brian
Why not flash a stock rooted GB ROM?
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That would certainly be the easiest solution, but i'd rather go OTA for a couple reasons:
1) while absolutely nothing against the great work the devs have done, I've gone back and forth on this and really end up wanting to keep mine stock (with a lot of sprint crap-ware frozen)
2) and a more direct reason for my question in the first place, this isn't just for my own phone, which i don't mind "hacking" with as much, but also for a coworker's phone I've rooted, the wife's (don't want to mess too much with hers) and even the in-law's two phones.
3) least required reason, I have very little actual use for Root, especially on the other listed phones, but the primary requirements on why i've rooted theirs is for wireless tethering and freezing of crapware.
1) while absolutely nothing against the great work the devs have done, I've gone back and forth on this and really end up wanting to keep mine stock (with a lot of sprint crap-ware frozen)
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Umm, the stock rooted roms are exactly that: stock, but rooted. Everything is still there.
2) and a more direct reason for my question in the first place, this isn't just for my own phone, which i don't mind "hacking" with as much, but also for a coworker's phone I've rooted, the wife's (don't want to mess too much with hers) and even the in-law's two phones.
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Again, flashing a stock rooted rom is NO different than taking the ota, except you will stay rooted and will not have to re-root.
3) least required reason, I have very little actual use for Root, especially on the other listed phones, but the primary requirements on why i've rooted theirs is for wireless tethering and freezing of crapware.
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OK, well if you don't need root, then take the ota and you will be unrooted.
Ok, fair points. So which rom(s) would be the original stock roms with nothing but Root added?
They would be in the threads that say Stock ROMs
I know there are rooted 6.2.1 roms for those who currently have root but how likely is it that there will be a method to root for those with 6.2.1 stock? I am getting a Fire for Christmas and I am hoping it was boxed up before 6.2.1 was released but in the event that it comes with the update I want to root.
Most of the units shipping now were built a while ago. They most likely have 6.0 or perhaps 6.1 on them. When you first start them up and turn in WiFi, they will auto update to the current version then.
So the key is to not turn on WiFi until you have rooted and updated to the 6.2.1 rooted image.
As for root for stock 6.2.1.. hopefully soon.
SirVilhelm said:
I know there are rooted 6.2.1 roms for those who currently have root but how likely is it that there will be a method to root for those with 6.2.1 stock? I am getting a Fire for Christmas and I am hoping it was boxed up before 6.2.1 was released but in the event that it comes with the update I want to root.
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You should try to block all amazon associated hostnames in your router. But, I recommend you turn off wifi when you unbox it. Root it, install FIREFIREFIRE with TWRP and install Voodo OTA Rootkeeper to backup root. The Voodoo method might or might not work but certainly worth the try!
You can also try to de-register the kindle from your account. However, you will lose all of Amazon's perks.
I can confirm that Voodo OTA Rootkeeper will NOT retain root. I had 6.2 rooted and OTA RK installed. Last night the kindle got updated to 6.2.1 while I was sleeping. Woke up, root is gone .. and can't recover using OTA RK.
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Most of the units shipping now were built a while ago. They most likely have 6.0 or perhaps 6.1 on them. When you first start them up and turn in WiFi, they will auto update to the current version then.
So the key is to not turn on WiFi until you have rooted and updated to the 6.2.1 rooted image.
As for root for stock 6.2.1.. hopefully soon.
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Got my Fire yesterday, can say that it came with 6.1 on it, then updated to 6.2, and then, even after I deleted OTASilentupdate.apk (or whatever it is), it still updated to 6.2.1 when I put it down for 5 minutes
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You should try to block all amazon associated hostnames in your router. But, I recommend you turn off wifi when you unbox it. Root it, install FIREFIREFIRE with TWRP and install Voodo OTA Rootkeeper to backup root. The Voodoo method might or might not work but certainly worth the try!
You can also try to de-register the kindle from your account. However, you will lose all of Amazon's perks.
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If you rename com.amazon.dcp.apk to com.amazon.dcp.apk.bak you can still use all of you amazon apps without having the fire registered.
Why not buy it, when starting, turn off wifi, root it, install TWRP, install the rooted version of 6.2.1 from the development thread, and call it a day....
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Cm7 is the way forward loving it would never go back to kindle stock and it was easy as 123 to do.
To answer the OP's question, the probability of 6.2.1 being root is tremendously high, but it may take a while.
As for alternatives, CM7 is now running totally smooth with the exception of mac issues (easily fixed by an ADB command), and 6.2.1's browser allows the installation of APKs from the market if you download them via the Silk browser. No root needed!
Google just patched the exploit used to root. With ICS being released it might take a little longer to find another exploit, but I would expect gingerbread to have another root method.
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Playin w/ roms on my new Rezound... Anyways I noticed the wife's KF got updated to 6.2.2 and FFF/twrp got axed.. Came back lookin for an updated way to get it back quickly. From my last 30 mins or so of reading it would seem the KFU and burritoroot are like fragmented now or something. I tried KFU for twrp and it failed- then I saw there was a burritoroot v3 but it doesn't install a recovery. Just wondering if there's any automated way to get it all done again or if I'm gonna have to keep searchin for links to recoveries etc. If so, no biggie- but if there's an easy way to get twrp back obviously I'll go that route. If there's a thread on it- I must just be missing it- granted I've had a few tonight.
I rooted my 6.2.2 kindle with burritoroot3 and then used KFU to flash TWRP recovery. Make sure you have the updated run.bat found in the KFU thread before trying to flash TWRP
Yep- I found the post from stevenmirabito seconds after posting this damn thread and I've already got twrp back on.. Sorry for the wasted thread.. Still kinda wondering why BR3 hasn't been worked into a new version of KFU but I'm sure if I was really interested enough there's prob some threads on that too- hopefully no drama. Anyways- thanks BluesHawk for responding to my question.
One more thing- I'm assuming it's ok to remove the old burritoroot? Got two icons now
Once you got the burritoroot you may as well uninstall unless your sentimental :_
done and done!
Well- I didn't do perm root- so that I could keep the streaming vid working. I fig'd I'd keep it around though for temp root/unroot
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Well- I didn't do perm root- so that I could keep the streaming vid working. I fig'd I'd keep it around though for temp root/unroot
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Unnecessary... Just perm root it and be done with it.
Use OTA Rootkeeper and you will be able to view your Amazon Videos.
Oh ok cool- like I said I've been gone for a while.. Pretty sure last time I was active on these forums OTA RK was a no go for prime video.
It has been the only method that I've ever seen.
o Using OTA rootkeeper use Unroot
o Go to settings -> Applications
o find Amazon Video and force close it
Now run Amazon Video again and it will work. You can even go back and root using OTR Rootkeeper and it will still work until your reboot your device.
This works on the Stock roms... CM7 and ICS doesn't
Cool thx for the info.. Last time (6.2.1) I did perm root, installed market and other apps, FFF&twrp, then unrooted (had to manual delete su files on the device)- so OTA-RK sounds easier. Unfortunately, this is my wife's fire- so I don't get to have that much fun with it. She's way into the amazon ecosystem and likes the stock rom.. So unless ICS final just kicks complete ass- I'll prob have to buy my own to play w/ those roms.. Not even sure why I ended up putting twrp back on it really- I just can't help myself!
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It has been the only method that I've ever seen.
o Using OTA rootkeeper use Unroot
o Go to settings -> Applications
o find Amazon Video and force close it
Now run Amazon Video again and it will work. You can even go back and root using OTR Rootkeeper and it will still work until your reboot your device.
This works on the Stock roms... CM7 and ICS doesn't
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If on CM7, you can leave rooted, use the browser to view Amazon video if you set the user agent to Linux desktop, and that works.
I'm intrigued in rooting my Nexus 7, but I also love google's stock android, no extra bloatware and apps makes me a happy camper, and thats why I waited for a Nexus tablet in the first place. Here's my question:
Is it possible to root the Nexus 7, get superuser permissions, change DPI settings, etc.... while retaining stock android (no flashing or different roms) so that whenever an OTA gets released, the device still lets you install the updated without giving any problems?
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I'm intrigued in rooting my Nexus 7, but I also love google's stock android, no extra bloatware and apps makes me a happy camper, and thats why I waited for a Nexus tablet in the first place. Here's my question:
Is it possible to root the Nexus 7, get superuser permissions, change DPI settings, etc.... while retaining stock android (no flashing or different roms) so that whenever an OTA gets released, the device still lets you install the updated without giving any problems?
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Yeah, you can root and get su permissions without changing stock. You need to use this to get OTA and still keep root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
I'm not sure if the DPI would revert back to the original settings when updated, but it's something to try.
Also, if you remove any of the apk's under the system folders, you will not be able to update. The update checks to see if they are all there before it starts installing.
great..... do you think the device would still be rooted after an official OTA?
Don't see why not. You would need to run OTA root keeper again, to re enable root. If you read the description in play, it tells you that it temporarily disables root so that it hides it from the OTA update
Anyone actually try this yet? I had OTA Rootkeeper on my razr and it didn't work sometimes.
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Anyone actually try this yet? I had OTA Rootkeeper on my razr and it didn't work sometimes.
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I haven't tried it yet. I let mine update before I rooted it.
Have head mixed reports on here, most say it works and some say it doesn't. You just have to take the chance.
If it does not save, its very easy to root again using a toolkit so it's not a big problem......