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Hi All,
A rather large review of the XPERIA X1 has been published at German Areamobile. Pretty much the first one to go into such depth as they did.
Although the review is originally written in German, thanks to Google all us non-German speaking/reading folks can have a go at it as well.
http://translate.google.com/transla...e.de/tests/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_X1/teil_I.php
Major Cons:
1. Flash on the camera is not good.
2. Some panels can take upto 2 to 4 seconds to refresh/load up at times. (He goes on to say in the conclusion that the lag will most likely be improved in a firmware update later)
Some things to note:
1. The reviewer says: "To put it in a nutshell: Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 is faster than HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro and Samsung i900 Omnia."
2. He goes on to say: "The touch screen also reacts more sensitive than those competitors." But it is behind Apple iPhone and also HTC Touch HD in terms of screen as well as speed.
Best Regards.
i would say that is true. In other words its the best win mobile phone atm
samme said:
i would say that is true. In other words its the best win mobile phone atm
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I'll probably have to agree with that.
I'm a little baffled how it manages to "outspeed" the Touch pro when they have the same processor and the Pro has more RAM. Is there some aspect of the hardware where they differ that I'm overlooking (did the 128MB of "extra RAM" for the graphics turn out true?)
Or is it more a matter of superior drivers? If so is the possibility of porting Xperia drivers to the Pro open? I'm still see-sawing between Xperia and Touch pro. My initial call was to take the "hit" in inferior screen for far superior Keyboard and TV-out and get a TP along with paying extra for an extended battery, but it seems the more I read the less clear it gets (especially when I see some of the issues the Touch Pro has on its board).
It seems every day I read something that changes my mind, lol.
Zaim2 said:
I'm a little baffled how it manages to "outspeed" the Touch pro when they have the same processor and the Pro has more RAM. Is there some aspect of the hardware where they differ that I'm overlooking (did the 128MB of "extra RAM" for the graphics turn out true?)
Or is it more a matter of superior drivers? If so is the possibility of porting Xperia drivers to the Pro open? I'm still see-sawing between Xperia and Touch pro. My initial call was to take the "hit" in inferior screen for far superior Keyboard and TV-out and get a TP along pay extra for an extended battery, but it seems the more I read the less clear it gets (especially when I see some of the issues the Touch Pro has on its board).
It seems every day I read something that changes my mind, lol.
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Buy my Touch Pro - got it back from repaircenter today and ouch - it feels cheap, slow and ugly compared to the Xperia after using the Xperia for some time now Was thinking of keeping it as substitute for my Iphone but I don´t even wanna use it anymore
easycure1974 said:
Buy my Touch Pro - got it back from repaircenter today and ouch - it feels cheap, slow and ugly compared to the Xperia after using the Xperia for some time now Was thinking of keeping it as substitute for my Iphone but I don´t even wanna use it anymore
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How much?
And yes, I only can say it again and again: Why did they do not write they played with a prototype? On the picture without battery one clearly can see (if you know how it is written and easier if you have seen it before): Prototype build PQ2 and the nect line: Prototype not for sale
I don't know how far the prototype reaches the end-build, but there is written prototype!
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How much?
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I am selling it for 4000:- Swedish kronor with car mount, 8 GB memorycard, two wallchargers and one carcharger Hardly used, had it two weeks untill it died and then it took four weeks to get it back from HTC - they really suck on support
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Well im pretty sure the graphics ram amount is true because it is faster then the touch pro without a doubt. Just starting up is faster then the touch pro. If not htc/sonyericsson just implemented the hardware better in the x1. Now im just waiting for a proper touchflo 3d release for the x1 then i wont even look at the htc phones for awhile
For how long has the german version been out?
p.s. and why is it without memory card?
The review is generally very positive for the Xperia.
But also a few things that are not quite right.
**"Aluminum Contruction". What? All specs call for Steel.
**"No 3D support". That's ridiculous. The Qualcomm chip has one of the best 2d/3d hardware/drivers support in the Industry. Check the video info in qualcomm's data sheet (bit longer to load, please wait....)
http://www.datasheetpro.com/817053_download_MSM7200_datasheet.html
**The panels takes up to 4secs. -- They have a proto with an old ROM. Latest videos feels smooth and quick.
**"Faster than Diamond & Pro." This one I believe them. Why? fine built vs cheap built. For example: same 3.2 mp camera but they explained why Xperia's is better. But definitely what can make a big difference is the better and faster graphics, so apps don't stay iddle while waiting for display to be done. They even compare with iPhone :
..."the highly sensitive touch screen can only be with the Apple iPhone 3G compare."
They praised the bigger keys and better layout of the keyboard. I like that.
I love the final sentence:
..."Thereafter, the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, without doubt to a new reference, to which all others must be measured."...
YEAH!!
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**"No 3D support". That's ridiculous. The Qualcomm chip has one of the best 2d/3d hardware/drivers support in the Industry. Check the video info in qualcomm's data sheet (bit longer to load, please wait....)
http://www.datasheetpro.com/817053_download_MSM7200_datasheet.html
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Are you kidding? And you trust all those BS on the paper? You better do some more research like http://www.htcclassaction.org/. So far, Qualcomm CPU is the worst (compare to Intel Xscale and Samsung) in any 2D/3D benchmark on all the pda I have.
Dissection - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/22/video-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-gets-white-glove-dissection/
hello, i am interested to find out if there is a software out there thats lets the x1 have a accelerometer like the htc, i feel that the only disadvantage the x1 has.
An accelerometer is a piece of hardware that is missing in the X1. There is no way that a software can emulate an accelerometer.
mabye by using camera to see movements and use it like an accel-meter
Yes, the Xperia lacks the accelerometer function and I miss it because I had a Diamond before
Future devices will feature micro-gyroscopes instead of accelerometers: they are more precise and accurate and have faster response times
using the cam to emulate would cost alot of batt and not work in dim light places
is there a way someone can unlock it or is it 100% sure that the accelerometer isn't inside?
I remember reading stuff about other htc handset where people unlocked hidden features such as gps... couldnt that also be with x1?
This has been covered by threads in the forum a while ago...
As far as we can tell, there is NO accelerometer hardware present in the phone. I don't think it's part of the chipset that could be enabled (like maybe the TV out function).
the features people have been able to unlock were features included inside the qualcomm cpu
which have gps/wifi/3g and the likes support
but accelerometer is not in the qualcomm cpu it's another component inside the phone
and in the case of the x1 not inside the phone
The X1 is sold as having an accelerometer
If you look at websites that sell the X1, like Dialaphone, they claim the X1 has an accelerometer for rotating the screen, it is advertised as having one, check it out.
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/googledap/phone/Sony_Ericsson_X1_Xperia/
Click the features tab, and there it is
However I have not seen anyone mange to make it work like the accelerometer on the Touch Diamond.
"If you look at websites that sell the X1, like Dialaphone, they claim the X1 has an accelerometer for rotating the screen, it is advertised as having one, check it out."
yeah goes to show once again that most sales people don't know their butt from their elbow
it says it has an accelerometer sensor, maybe it starts up goes "yep no accelerometer here", then goes back to sleep?
Maybe some one should get dialaphone to demonstrate the accelerometer??
Rudegar - Touchet !
um, who knows... did anyone actually take a look at xperia mobo to se if it's there?
haven't found any hires photo of that...
that could be in there just waiting for a firmware upgrade (hope is the last thing to loose)
Tears of the Engineers
From a sales and marketing perspective I can understand why Sony deliberaetly did not want an accelerometer on the X1.
It can be viewed by some as a kiddy, gimicky, playstationy type thing. Whereas if you look at the official promo for the X1, Who is Johnny X, the X1 is clearly not aimed at kids, it is marketed as a serious multimedia business tool.
The X1 is Sony Erricsons flagship, in there armada, they didnt want it to be a Jet Ski, all froth and fun.
You can see who has the upper hand in the board room, it aint the engineers.
That said once released and let loose, I say the X1 is what we make of it
if they made a perfect phone once, no one would buy their next product.
believe me, HTC has the ability to do that, but they didn't and never will.
Hi , i am a new one here but i wish to help. I think that there is two solution. First is that Sonyericsson did make accelerometer in x1 but only in a prototype model.Maybe they have a bad result and then decide to put it away. Or maybe (like in nokia N95 first releases , they have built in accelerometer but not enabled. They did enable it in the last firmware v.30.15) they will enable in the next firmware update , if it ever comes. I hope it will. One more thing,maybe it is interesting. As X1 have very bad sound on a speakerfone i was searching the entire net and i found something very interesting to me. As i watch on Youtube every posible video of Xperia i have noticed that the prototype of Xperia has two very imortant diferencies. First , they have two speakers on each side( one is below the camera button and second on a other side right below the screen orientation button???) And second thing is that prototype has a double less memory than we do have now...Here is one of the links http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmO4TL5NAY&feature=related .... And people , sorry for my bad English....
The only way to get accelerometer functionality is to buy a MicroSDIO Accelerometer card. Unfortunately, no-one makes one as there's no market for it .
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The X1 is Sony Erricsons flagship, in there armada, they didnt want it to be a Jet Ski, all froth and fun.
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the X1 is NOT the flagship. the C series is and probably will allways be.
its the Flagship of their mobile office department but thats not to hard sicne its their only "new" cellphone
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the X1 is NOT the flagship. the C series is and probably will allways be.
its the Flagship of their mobile office department but thats not to hard sicne its their only "new" cellphone
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i ve read there Marketing Manager's interview in a mobile magazine and he said its their premium phone aimed at a niche market.
they are not focussed on selling like iphone but have a distinct product placement in the market.
achmed20 said:
the X1 is NOT the flagship. the C series is and probably will allways be.
its the Flagship of their mobile office department but thats not to hard sicne its their only "new" cellphone
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The c-series are very good cybershot-phones, but the flagship has always been the P-series and now it's the X-series. It's promoted like this here in Austria after all.
I sold my Touch HD (temporarily with Touch Diamond), waiting HD2! I wonder how many ROMchefs stayed with HD!?!?
xaoc747 said:
I sold my Touch HD (temporarily with Touch Diamond), waiting HD2! I wonder how many ROMchefs stayed with HD!?!?
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i am waiting for the next release with qwerty with one 1ghz snapdragon
I am most likely gonna skip the next gen/WM6.5 , stay with HD and wait for WM7
I am actually waiting for a HTC device with the Nvidia Tegra chipset..
guys shouldn't this topic be on another thread? like Blackstone general discussion?
The only thing I don't like in HD2 is no second camera for video-call and the absence of the stylus to write on keyboards and maybe in some apps is not functional only the finger...
Fidalgos said:
The only thing I don't like in HD2 is no second camera for video-call
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Same here!
Impolicy the rejected second camera.
i reckon nVidia Tegra + WM7 + QWERTY + capacitive (although that should be standard by then!)
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The only thing I don't like in HD2 is no second camera for video-call and the absence of the stylus to write on keyboards and maybe in some apps is not functional only the finger...
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Second that....
Oh well, I will sell my HD for the HD2.
I love my HD in a way that i can't see myself selling it unless i see these combination in a phone:
1- nVidea Tegra or SnapDargon
2- Dual/Stereo Speakers
3- 8mp Camera+Flash
4- HD Video Capture (720p)
5- Physical tilting Keyboard (No on-screen keyboard, to work freely)
6- Front camera.
7- 4.1-4.3 inch 480x800
8- 1350mAh+++ Batteries
9- Stylus (Screen Pen)
10- Multi-touch Resistive or capacitive.
Hopefully we'll hear of something like that from hTC soon..
Until then i'll stick with my HD and maybe hear news of upgrading to WinMo 7..
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I am most likely gonna skip the next gen/WM6.5 , stay with HD and wait for WM7
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I'll do exactly the same
and if WM7 is another disappointment I think I'll go for an Android phone
I hope they find a better way to input Chinese, 'cause handwriting recognition only works through resistive as of now. HD2 just won't do it for me.
It'd be great to have a capacitive touchscreen and the ability to handwrite in-- hopefully-- the next version... seriously, I think a major reason why HTC has been so slow to migrate to capacitive screens is that they have a huge Asian market to cater.
where is the moderator when u need one?????... this is general discussion not rom developement....
when the phone you mentioned is going to sell, there will be a better specs phone announced... life is always like that
and my plan is: to let my girl friend use my HD, and i will buy a HD2
dosari666 said:
I love my HD in a way that i can't see myself selling it unless i see these combination in a phone:
1- nVidea Tegra or SnapDargon
2- Dual/Stereo Speakers
3- 8mp Camera+Flash
4- HD Video Capture (720p)
5- Physical tilting Keyboard (No on-screen keyboard, to work freely)
6- Front camera.
7- 4.1-4.3 inch 480x800
8- 1350mAh+++ Batteries
9- Stylus (Screen Pen)
10- Multi-touch Resistive or capacitive.
Hopefully we'll hear of something like that from hTC soon..
Until then i'll stick with my HD and maybe hear news of upgrading to WinMo 7..
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Stylus you can leave from HD
Will wait for WM7 too.
For me there's no reason to buy HD2. In addition it's huge beast! My HD is quite big and HD2 - oh...
9- Stylus (Screen Pen)
10- Multi-touch Resistive or capacitive.
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I am afraid this is not achieveable. You cannot have both a stylus and a capacitive screen and I've not seen a multitouch resistive screen yet, except in some weird hardware demos earlier this year.
HD2 is a beast really but there is still something that will not make me change my old HD:
1) I love my phone but If I could have the same in a smaller form I would be the happiest phone owner on the earth and HD2 is even bigger than HD
2) I don't think WM6.5 is ready to be used without a pen
3) I dont'use video calls but .. really ? It does not have a front camera ? Can't believe it
4) Why should we need a double frequency processor to run the same old WM crap? Sense interface is not worth it, just wait for a better optimized version of manila
5) Those devices are not simply phones, they cost A HUGE LOT of money, a producer cannot force you to change one per year without offering very STUNNING new features. HTC should really understand that
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I sold my Touch HD (temporarily with Touch Diamond), waiting HD2! I wonder how many ROMchefs stayed with HD!?!?
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I was thinking about getting an hd2 but wm6.5 is a nogo for me. I will wait for the next generation (wm7) devices or even consider another platform if wm7 is as badly engineered as 6.5.
I´m getting my HD2 next month. I´m thinking about selling my HD but i´m unsure about it. I might keep my HD just for the cooking. The HD2 dont have so mutch more to offer but i think it will be a while before we se a "better" phone from HTC. But if they realese a better (with physical querty) one in the future, then i might just sell the HD2
For now it it seems like i´m not sticking with my HD as i just bought a new TV and a HTPC. But i dont know
jigners said:
guys shouldn't this topic be on another thread? like Blackstone general discussion?
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hispeedworm said:
where is the moderator when u need one?????... this is general discussion not rom developement....
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I take a night off to relax and everyones complaining
I've moved this thread to its correct location....general discussion as its not related to rom development. Some of the more senior member should already have been aware of this LOL
Ta
Rick
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Also, I think you should add another option into your poll, possibly something like 'undecided' as a lot of users are currently undecided.....
sorry if this was mentioned before, but i cant seem to find any related threads on hd2 forum, anyways here it goes
does anyone else find the hd2 handles multi touch really poorly compared to some other smartphones out there? like the iphone and samsung galaxy s. this is especially obvious when the two point are close to each other in either axis, which is demonstrated by the video attached below (not by me!), although htc desire is used in the video, i can replicate the same response on my hd2 easily
so my question is, is the htc hd2 hardware 'imperfect' or is it the driver for the touch screen the one that is causing the problem, cheers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
edit: forgot to mention, what i mean by hd2 handles multi touch really poorly is when the 2 touches are close to each other in either axis, the hd2 sort of just merge the two axis, although they are not exactly in the same line!
Ill take the hd2 off your hands.
the touch panel is capable of it.... just bad drivers.... htc is known for f*cking good hardware with ****ty drivers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD3cWrTuEY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4IkVp3uWtE&feature=related
polo735 said:
Ill take the hd2 off your hands.
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haha you wish
JJbdoggg said:
the touch panel is capable of it.... just bad drivers.... htc is known for f*cking good hardware with ****ty drivers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD3cWrTuEY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4IkVp3uWtE&feature=related
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i see, hope there will be a fix in the future, because HD2 is one of the most capable smartphone ever... kind of unfortunate when the software cant utilize its full potential!
It.s a known old problem on the HD2. It was a long hard debate that HD2 can only ,,pinch-to-zoom,,. HTC implemented the drivers to use the device just for pinching. There are some workarounds on WM 6.5 to use the MT (look at fpsece) but if you refer to android (games i assume) you will experience weird behavior on the HD2.
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It.s a known old problem on the HD2. It was a long hard debate that HD2 can only ,,pinch-to-zoom,,. HTC implemented the drivers to use the device just for pinching. There are some workarounds on WM 6.5 to use the MT (look at fpsece) but if you refer to android (games i assume) you will experience weird behavior on the HD2.
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Dont see the problem personally, unless you are expecting three point touch. Trying one of the multi touch test apps in Android, it works fine... are you referring to the snapping when the points approach orthogonal? or maybe mixing it up with this: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/326530/htc_hd2_leo_lacks_universal_multitouch.html
...which clearly is untrue.
Real multitouch?
HTC HD2 have Synaptics Clearpad 2000 - work only with two fingers.
So there is no chance to see real multitouch on HD2 :/
Producent page : http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/Product_Brief_CP2000_01_0.pdf
HTC Evo 4G have new touch panel - Atmel MaxTouch mxt224 - UNLIMITED FINGERS!
@UP :
This videos don't show new drivers . It's practically impossible to write new drivers by normal person.
Even with 2 fingers MT does not work as it should, actually HD2 is capable only to ,,pinch-and-zoom,, (as i said there are some work-arounds but you can.t compare evo or iphone MT with HD2)
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Trying one of the multi touch test apps in Android, it works fine...
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it works, thats about it. the biggest problem i've had so far is when the two touches are quite close on the y axis, e.g. using a multi-touch keyboard, when i type o immediately after a, sometimes the o is registered as k or l, because the os somehow merges the two touches vertically, so they seem to be on the same horizontal line (sorry if i didnt explain this properly, but i think the video i've attached above should make this clear)
One thing that I noticed when using MultiTouch Visualizer 2 (free on Market) was that touch point 1 and touch point 2 would flip when using any Nexus builds. It is most apparent when touching between diagonal corners. Desire builds will show the two touch points recognized correctly. If anyone is having problems with Nexus builds, try this out. It may be part of the reason for your multitouch problems.
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it works, thats about it. the biggest problem i've had so far is when the two touches are quite close on the y axis, e.g. using a multi-touch keyboard, when i type o immediately after a, sometimes the o is registered as k or l, because the os somehow merges the two touches vertically, so they seem to be on the same horizontal line (sorry if i didnt explain this properly, but i think the video i've attached above should make this clear)
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i get this too if i type very fast only it happenes to me everywhere on the keyboard
the hd2 doesn't have the clearpad 2000 , i asked htc themselves , it is used in nexus and desire not hd2 , that is why we don't have the axe problems that they face , and the 2 point multitouch is a driver limitation as htc said to me
I've opened my Xperia thanks to my need to open every single electronic device I have
I took some pictures (coming soon) and I've written down everything that was written on chips inside.
This is an older revision with Synaptics digitizer.
Chips:
Touchscreen digitizer:
Synaptics logo
T1021A
1 1023
AC1F889
on flex it says:
940-794-1R1
and another small chip:
TM1513
Display:
on flex
MDS40111
nothing else.
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Mainboard:
Big one:
QUALCOMM
MSM7227
CN2C98
E102700C
chip above:
ST (logo)
NANDCBR4N9
BZBC5 H0
KOR 99 027
QUALCOMM
RTR6285
A3N043.1
F2028013
SKY77336-13
4161610.1P
1031 MX
QUALCOMM
PM7540
AH54271
C3030003
So as predicted we have clearpad 1000 wich doesn't support real multitouch, with a new kernel or without. Great Job, and will be waiting for the photos to see what the inside looks... also is is possible to change the casing from a white one to a black one without damaging parts? When you finish uploading the photos maybe you can take a picture of the tools you used, maybe it will help others too.
You can replace casing, however touchscreen is glued to the case really hard and I couldn't remove it, and I don't know are cases shipped with or without touchscreen.
Erm... you said it doesn't support multitouch. My question is, you mean dual touch, mutlitouch or pinch zoom (what is now almost fully working, so I think about the first two possibilities)? I hope Dual Touch is supported by the hardware, I don't need multi touch (or at least DT is enough for games).
Thanks in advance.
Well what I've said is our hardware supports single touch, so no MT/DT for gaming... but pinch zoom is possible thanks to doixanh by faking a second finger.
Asycid said:
Erm... you said it doesn't support multitouch. My question is, you mean dual touch, mutlitouch or pinch zoom (what is now almost fully working, so I think about the first two possibilities)? I hope Dual Touch is supported by the hardware, I don't need multi touch (or at least DT is enough for games).
Thanks in advance.
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Please read the manufacturer specifications about the clearpad 1000 here:
http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
A quote from the specifications document:
. The ClearPad 1000 provides SingleTouch
interaction and gestures for mid-range and mass-market
devices.
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Once more: No dual touch on the SE X8!
Thanks a lot.
...now I'm a saaaad panda...
EDIT.: No, I'm not sad, because my X8 has got Cypress digitizer, as "dmesg" says. So, pinch zoom is not working, but I thing cypresses are capable of Dual Touch, now, just have to find a ppl who has got "cypress x8" and can program Android. Or, I have to learn it
Asycid said:
Thanks a lot.
...now I'm a saaaad panda...
EDIT.: No, I'm not sad, because my X8 has got Cypress digitizer, as "dmesg" says. So, pinch zoom is not working, but I thing cypresses are capable of Dual Touch, now, just have to find a ppl who has got "cypress x8" and can program Android. Or, I have to learn it
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Think again what dev have new x8.
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Sorry, I dont undertand. Honestly, i really don't understand
I don't know which developer has which x8.
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Sorry, I dont undertand. Honestly, i really don't understand
I don't know which developer has which x8.
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Two versions of x 8 exist one with one digitilizer second with other digitilizer and devs does not got new x 8 with new digitilizer, do you get now.
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I wrote this earlier:
now, just have to find a ppl who has got "cypress x8" and can program Android
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So I know that there isn't any dev, who has Cypress-x8, that's why I wrote that I (we) have to find a people who has got "Cypressed" (wow, great word ) x8, and who knows how to program android.
how to check which digitizer my x8 have?
type dmesg in terminal emulator and look for synaptics or cypress lines, I do not know exactly how should it look like :d
Quote from pinch zoom topic at dev.:
For devices that are unable to use x8gesture, try this command in your phone (either with terminal or with adb shell):
Code:
dmesg | grep "cyttsp-i2c"
If you have something like this, that means your X8/X10mini is using Cypress and therefore it will not be supported by x8gesture:
Code:
<6>[ 4.185259] cyttsp_i2c_probe: Successful registration cyttsp-i2c
Whats the difference between these two digitizeres?
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Whats the difference between these two digitizeres?
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If I'm correct, the dititizer that came from Cypress can do Multitouch (no, not pinch zoom or just dual touch... multitouch!), and the Synaptics' can't (at least the ClearPad1000)
But now we really getting offtopic, so let's go to a multitouch topic!
CaptainZap said:
So as predicted we have clearpad 1000 wich doesn't support real multitouch, with a new kernel or without. Great Job, and will be waiting for the photos to see what the inside looks... also is is possible to change the casing from a white one to a black one without damaging parts? When you finish uploading the photos maybe you can take a picture of the tools you used, maybe it will help others too.
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Yeah, but i saw that microsoft Kin two has same Touch solution and it supports Dual touch, it seems to be software emulated, but if we find out how it is, we can port it to X8
we couldn't because kin two hasn't linux based kernel.
To all: Stop dreaming MT/DT won't happen for the X8.
@bogdan_mihai554: Termina omule, nu mai fi asa insistent. Nu se poate si gata.
Asycid said:
If I'm correct, the dititizer that came from Cypress can do Multitouch (no, not pinch zoom or just dual touch... multitouch!), and the Synaptics' can't (at least the ClearPad1000)
But now we really getting offtopic, so let's go to a multitouch topic!
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So. Half of us could have multitouch, and half dont.. I think you're wrong
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