From the very first day I got my hand on my HD2, I decided to go cLK. I liked the cleaner interface, and the no go-go-go of Magldr. Ok. Lemme list out the reasons I liked cLK:
Instant start into booting of ROM without the initial linux type screen
Saving a second or so of boot time by bypassing that screen
Support for ROM manager, and being able to directly boot into recovery with the phone on
Charging while phone off feature
So I stayed with cLK for months and months, while I experienced the one drawback of the software - it uses PPP for 3G data versus Rmnet for Magldr. I have used every single ROM flavor out there with cLK - CM builds, Pyramid, MIUI, Runny, Sense.. With every rom I would get data drop outs at least 12 times a day. I'm not kidding. If I let the phone sleep for an hour and wake it up, the data connection would be gone. I would have to retoggle the data connection to "wake" up the connection. Once reconnected, it would work fine, but it would die again. This happened whether I had one bar of signal, or 5.
I had read that PPP is less stable. So finally in frustration I decided to give Magldr a go. Same phone. Same rom. Same town. I have not had ONE data drop out since I went to Magldr. Its ridiculous how stable it is.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is pretty much the winning argument for me. For my phone, there is no freakin way I'm going back to cLK.
Wow. I think you may be on to something.
i have used magldr from beginning, i've never had data problems till now. sometimes i think to pass to clk. but after your information i've abandoned this idea thanks
I've tried MAGLDR the moment it came out. Stayed with it for about 3 months [about two months androiding, and one month WP7].
But after that, I went over to cLK .. and it's been over 8 months and I'm liking it. I barely use data connection (I'm usually on WiFi @ home) and when outside I use data for a few hours or so, maybe that's why it wasn't disconnecting for me (I've never had a drop, not even once).
I'd say the following:
Only use MAGLDR if you:
*Use Windows Phone.
*Use Data connection a lot, I MEAN REALLY MUCH !
CLK here since begining (6 months ago). No problem with data connection at all!
Probably it is operator dependent ( Bulgaria/ M-tel )
livanov said:
CLK here since begining (6 months ago). No problem with data connection at all!
Probably it is operator dependent ( Bulgaria/ M-tel )
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That might very well be true. Here in the US on T-Mobile.
Like I said, with the same phone, same ROM and same town I have had zero problems with Mag. And I use my data a lot. Not for streaming video or anything like that. But a lot of email, web browsing, weather apps, etc. Most of which need the data connection to stay active with the phone sleeping.
This thread makes me sad. I need the features of cLK (charge while off, reboot to recovery) but the data drops are pretty annoying. I've been running cLK so long now I forgot data drops arent the norm, and this thread has brought it all back!
...But I'm still not gonna switch
jwchips said:
This thread makes me sad. I need the features of cLK (charge while off, reboot to recovery) but the data drops are pretty annoying. I've been running cLK so long now I forgot data drops arent the norm, and this thread has brought it all back!
...But I'm still not gonna switch
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Hahahahaha.. this makes me laugh!! I had the exact same attitude. I was never gonna switch! But I remember the moment of epiphany clearly. I was driving. I was expecting an important email. I turned on the phone. There it was - a dead data connection. So I had to do the data on/off toggle, and my email came in. 20 minutes late. I thought that's it. I've had it with this stupid PPP crap. Time to make a change.
Come on over! The water is mighty fine.
my guess is it operator dependent, since my carrier uses all ip network (3g hspa+) i have no such issue
IF CLK is setup properly and has the correct libs and the wrapper file, with a correctly modded build.prop file I find it to be really stable. I suggest trying sbryan12144's rom Sensation with CLK. His thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326217 I am having no problems using data on CLK at all!
GhostXSeries said:
IF CLK is setup properly and has the correct libs and the wrapper file, with a correctly modded build.prop file I find it to be really stable. I suggest trying sbryan12144's rom Sensation with CLK. His thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326217 I am having no problems using data on CLK at all!
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Thanks for the tip! As some have pointed out, it might also be operator dependent. T-Mobile might just suck in the US! I find it hard to believe though that one of the six or seven different rom flavors I tried out wouldn't do a good cLK implementation.
Still, this is good to keep in mind.
I am using ACA rom cLK version, and I've never had data drops.
Maybe it is because I am using Juice Defender, which I let manage my data on/off, so that might be something to help you guys.
Really, no data drops, never.
maybe all clk users should have Data Connections Checker installed. it constantly makes sure that cell data is active even when the device is sleeping. if data gets dropped it does an auto toggle to bring it up
fatso485 said:
maybe all clk users should have Data Connections Checker installed. it constantly makes sure that cell data is active even when the device is sleeping. if data gets dropped it does an auto toggle to bring it up
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But wouldn't an app like this that's always running cause more battery drain? It might be negligible. But that's the first thing that comes to mind. Its hard enough already to go an entire day with my phone.
great info
Thats interesting, any other downparts with CLK?
I started almost a year ago with MAGLDR and never had any major issue. I found annoying sometimes that my phone couldn't charge while off but no big deal, you just get chargers everywhere.
I switched to cLK as a recommendation from the devs of HyperDroid 3.0 and I was also curious to try it from reading it. I've had data drops from day one and on, switched roms hoping that one would magically work better (thanks to updated ril wrapper and such) but no dice. I still would get a dozen of drops a day...
I have reverted back to MAGLDR and had no problem since
I wish we could have RMNET on cLK, that would be cool but until then I'll stick to MAGLDR
too be honest ive never had data drops with clk.....maybe weird.
i do love magdlr though, but clk makes it feel a little more native when loading. by passing the linux screen and all
Ive been using clk since it's release and I have not experienced ANY problems with data
works perfectly for me
I'm the opposite. I used magldr before clk was released. I hated magldr. Its clunky to me. I've never noticed data drops with clk. Sometimes I've had data problems with certain roms but nothing I can blame on clk. As for the connection types, ppp is more stable on the ics builds.
CLK 1.5 supports rmnet and ppp so even if your right about data drops it should no longer be an issue.
For nand android clk is the clear option.
For windows or dual booting magldr is what you need.
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Was getting several data freezes every day (5 to 7 every day). I installed a free app from the Android Market called DATA ON DEMAND which is supposed to switch your data from 3G to 2G in order to conserve battery when phone is idle in sleep mode (screen off). This app did not work on my device. It would kill the data completely after phone was put to sleep and data nor voice would restore unless the phone was restarted. Needless to say, I uninstalled the app and rebooted my phone and strangely, my phone has not dropped data even ONCE in 5 DAYS. I have tested this on 3 other HD2's and all followed the same pattern. I have only tested them for the last 3 days though. My exact setup as far as OS's is:
Windows Mobile Rom: Omega v14 WWE XT CHT
Radio: 2.14.50.04
Android Rom: mattcevoleo1.0.1
Kernel: [email protected] (r1)
Please post if this works for you if you decide to try it. I am curious. That was probably the only real downside to my daily HD2/Android usage.
When you say data freeze, do you mean the issue with the up data arrow getting stuck?.
my build too i am using mattc 1.8 with sense and when data is on the arrow stops and i lose data happen to me 5 time a day
cardoflex said:
my build too i am using mattc 1.8 with sense and when data is on the arrow stops and i lose data happen to me 5 time a day
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Same here, I've also noticed the phone uses a lot more battery power when the data connection is on. Maybe its linked?
Thanks to the OP for the possible solution.
tkato said:
When you say data freeze, do you mean the issue with the up data arrow getting stuck?.
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yes, that is what I am refering to. sometimes both arrows would get stuck.
Since updating to hastrian 7.1 I don't see any improvements to my battery life and data like everyone is taking about is still a problem, if some one could correct this it would be three best setup ever
It not solve my data connexion problem, i have installed the apps, set it to AUTO, reboot, delete the apps, and now everything is same than before i install the apps... nothing better...
using the Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.0 Warm|3.29.651.5|[kernel: hastarin R7.1] release with the libhtc_ril_wrapper.zip updated (9/28)
Ill try this on my 1.8 and my evo 1.0.1, will report back
k2trill said:
Was getting several data freezes every day (5 to 7 every day). I installed a free app from the Android Market called DATA ON DEMAND which is supposed to switch your data from 3G to 2G in order to conserve battery when phone is idle in sleep mode (screen off). This app did not work on my device. It would kill the data completely after phone was put to sleep and data nor voice would restore unless the phone was restarted. Needless to say, I uninstalled the app and rebooted my phone and strangely, my phone has not dropped data even ONCE in 5 DAYS. I have tested this on 3 other HD2's and all followed the same pattern. I have only tested them for the last 3 days though. My exact setup as far as OS's is:
Windows Mobile Rom: Omega v14 WWE XT CHT
Radio: 2.14.50.04
Android Rom: mattcevoleo1.0.1
Kernel: [email protected] (r1)
Please post if this works for you if you decide to try it. I am curious. That was probably the only real downside to my daily HD2/Android usage.
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How long were you running michy's r1 kernal before you installed that app? Reason I asked is because installing michy's r1 kernal and rebooting is what solved my data issue.
*minus the winmo rom i have the same exact set up as you
xuix said:
It not solve my data connexion problem, i have installed the apps, set it to AUTO, reboot, delete the apps, and now everything is same than before i install the apps... nothing better...
using the Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.0 Warm|3.29.651.5|[kernel: hastarin R7.1] release with the libhtc_ril_wrapper.zip updated (9/28)
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will3k14 said:
Ill try this on my 1.8 and my evo 1.0.1, will report back
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Try this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791584
Solutions?
Any new solutions to this item, I attempted the above fix and didn't quite fix it. I have a good feeling this fix has a lot to do with the rom/radio combination.
malzubai said:
Any new solutions to this item, I attempted the above fix and didn't quite fix it. I have a good feeling this fix has a lot to do with the rom/radio combination.
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I concur. Thats why I was wondering how long had he used that set up before downloading the app. I have almost the same exact set up and my data connectivity has been excellent (this is without downloading that app)
I can confirm this has worked for me, after updating my kernel to hastarin 7.1
i started having data disconnections, then this came along
thanks for sharing
My attempt ...
Until now, any build that uses PPP would not work without at least one flaw in the data connection every half hour or less... Terrible...
I then decided to try a combination of the tips that I've been reading in the forum.
First, I edited the build.prop in system folder and changed the last two lines in the file, the primary and secondary DSN. I used Namebench, a free program to find the indication of which DNSuse for my region (I live in northern Brazil). I run the Namebench on my laptop and copied the two recommended DNS addresses.
Then followed another tip, and using the *#*#4636#*#*, changed the network configuration for GSM auto.
And finally, in the phone settings, I changed from GSM/WCDMA auto to GSM only...
It's five hours straight without any disconnection !!!!!! It is true that the connection is slower because of GSM, but it is steady and reliable!
My next step will be to change this last parameter for WCDMA Only and just see what happens
Sorry about my English, hope you can understand!
k2trill said:
Try this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791584
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Thanks for the help I tried this fixit doenst work. I'll do what you suggest K2trill thanks. btw any fix for the voice rail issue on the evo 1.0.1?
lkrfn5283 said:
How long were you running michy's r1 kernal before you installed that app? Reason I asked is because installing michy's r1 kernal and rebooting is what solved my data issue.
*minus the winmo rom i have the same exact set up as you
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I'd been running it since its release... few days
malzubai said:
Any new solutions to this item, I attempted the above fix and didn't quite fix it. I have a good feeling this fix has a lot to do with the rom/radio combination.
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+1. Had freq. dropouts when on 2.09 radio, 2.10 caused the entire radio to dropout and 2.11 was fairly stable but still freq. dropout. 2.14 was been the most stable radio for me so far, only 2-3 dropouts max per day.
Of course, the early radio dropouts could've been caused by the older buggy ril wrapper library, so I might revert back just to experiment around a bit more.
Using Mdeejay Evo Sense 2.4.2 I Managed to resolve my data drops... at least in the last 24 hours.
I still haven't gotten one freeze on any of the 3 phones I'm testing since I did this. maybe I'm lucky...
liaquila said:
My attempt ...
Until now, any build that uses PPP would not work without at least one flaw in the data connection every half hour or less... Terrible...
I then decided to try a combination of the tips that I've been reading in the forum.
First, I edited the build.prop in system folder and changed the last two lines in the file, the primary and secondary DSN. I used Namebench, a free program to find the indication of which DNSuse for my region (I live in northern Brazil). I run the Namebench on my laptop and copied the two recommended DNS addresses.
Then followed another tip, and using the *#*#4636#*#*, changed the network configuration for GSM auto.
And finally, in the phone settings, I changed from GSM/WCDMA auto to GSM only...
It's five hours straight without any disconnection !!!!!! It is true that the connection is slower because of GSM, but it is steady and reliable!
My next step will be to change this last parameter for WCDMA Only and just see what happens
Sorry about my English, hope you can understand!
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Ok. Just to give a feed back...
With GSM only, no drops at all!!!!
When I changed to WCDMA only, overall it's more stable than before, but I had a few drops last night and this mornig...
So, for me, I'm switching back to GSM only. I do prefer a more slower connection but with no drops !!!
I'm using 2.14 radio, with FroyoStoneSense v3.1 (Darkstone) !
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
I would also like to know which is the most stable Android build to-date (i am not bothered with the HTC Sense layar).
I agree ^^
Right now I'm using mdeejays evo sense 2.3 revolution and upgraded the kernel with Hastarin R8 and it is very stable!!
Its gonna depend on many factors such as what WM rom you're running and what radio as well. I would recommend you get chuckdroid WM rom, a good recent radio, and either evo sense 2.3 or Bangsters 1.5 (if you dont want sense) Ive had good results with both.
Latest Energy WinMo ROM, 2.12 radio, the Android build linked below.
Works fantastic, all day, every day. CM6 mod. MDPI/HDPI hybrid too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769026
MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.
+1 for Mdeejay builds
just loaded Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.1 Matted this morning, so far v smooth, battery 5mA in standby, camera with flash working, no probs so far.
deff' the best of the 3 android builds ive tried
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797357
For the one who said that it depends on many factors, here is my current specifications;
OS-Version
5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila-Version
2.5.19211619.0
ROM-Version
1.66.409.1 (76641) NOR
ROM-Date
01/12/10
Radioversion
2.12.50.02_2
Protokollversion:
15.40.50.07U
What kind of setup would be best for my specs?
sumflipnol said:
I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.
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I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.
energy and skinnyEVO v1.5 with latest kernell update is the best setup you can get.... after a long search i foud this one to be the best..... oh radio 2.12.50.xxxx great battery life..... >
energy rom and mdeej's Revolution is by far the best sense build to date and there is a new radio for those of you that dont know yet 2.15
There is no guaranteed catch all perfect setup. what may run perfectly fine for me may run absolutely horrible for you. Different strokes for different folks.
Factors you have to consider:
SD Card (class, size, whether is SDHC or not, how it is formatted, cluster size)
Battery calibration (does your battery last a long time in WinMo?)
Your own knowledge (if you cannot be bothered to search for any simple problems then you WILL get frustrated trying to run Android)
the best way you can find out the best setup for you is trial and error.
dazzyb2k3 said:
I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.
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Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?
MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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MichaelVS said:
[Q] So what is currently the most stable setup for android on HD2?
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is the one you really like, the one that appeals to your needs and whims the most
so try them builds around and share your ideas and experience with each of them
tonyh0905 said:
Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
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there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
tonyh0905 said:
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?
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reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.
jigners said:
there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.
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Thanks for the info...the airplane mode trick worked a treat
When you say reboot android 3 times, do you mean reset the whole device, or is there a way to shut down and restart the android os?
Cheers
Tony
I use:
VBN reloaded 2 minimal ROM
mdeejay revolution 2.0
radio 2.12.50.
One time deals:
i) turn off auto backlight in winmo
ii) do a g-sensor calib in winmo
Make sure you :
i) Load android using EBL *as soon as you possibly can*
ii) press the back button when its loading HaRET
and you are all set !!!
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If you're like me, a subpar or incomplete Android 2.2 on HD2 experience was NOT an option. I've been through pretty much every combination, followed everyone's advice and always ended up unhappy for one of several reasons :
1. The ROM I installed was missing features, like the camera or other features that crashed.
2. The dreaded "Sleep of Death"
Not to say anything against any of the ROM chefs, because these guys are hard-working geniuses and they do this for free... for us...
But having said that, I had to keep trying. I'm obsessive compulsive when it comes to my gadgets and once I had a taste of Android on the HD2, I knew I wouldn't be happy until I found that elusive combination that made it work the way I wanted it to.
If you're having trouble making Android work on your HD2, listen up... Because now mine works like a charm and here's how it happened...
1. You absolutely HAVE to get rid of the stock Windows Mobile 6.5 that comes on your HD2. I never found a way around that. Until I flashed a custom ROM, it never worked 100%. To do this you need to flash HSPL to your HD2. This allows the installation of custom ROMs.
2. You have to strip Windows Mobile down to next to nothing. If you plan on using Android 2.2 as your daily operating system, you don't need it anyway. I tried lots of versions, but face it - you won't need WinMo anymore once you get Android working 100%. For this, use Chuckydroid, hands down. It is stripped down to next to nothing - no Sense 2.5, nothing fancy in Windows Mobile. BARE. BONES. Chuckydroid can also be set up to autoboot into Android!
3. After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
4. For my Android ROM, I chose Mdj revolution 1.5, and updated to the S1 Linux kernel. It was one of few builds that had all features working as they should. The S1 kernel patches a lot of issues that might arise with the MDJ build.
5. Lastly, I noticed I didn't have 3G signal after all this and discovered that at some point my APN information (which tells the phone how to connect to data services) had been wiped out. I am a TMoUSA customer, so I found the information for the USA servers and added it manually to the phone. (System/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Access Point Names)
I know this isn't every piece of information you need, but if you read each point and investigate on your own, you'll find there's a wealth of information out there to guide you through each step, but to clarify :
1. Flash HSPL (I used HSPL 3, but follow the directions when you find it)
2. Install Chuckydroid (No other custom ROM worked and I tried them all)
3. Flash Radio 2.15
4. MDJ Revolution 1.5 w/ S1 kernel (Most stable and complete I could find)
5. Manually configure APN
Again I'll close with the fact that I have a fully-working Android 2.2 HD2 device. All features, all functions, no errors, no robot voice, no SOD, no gremlins... It just works. Good luck! If you have any additions to this plan, let me know! I'd like to know that I was using the newest 100% WORKING(!!!) Android built with all the best features.
I'd also like to add that, given my luck, now that it's taken me over a week to get Android 2.2 working flawlessly on my HD2, in the next day or so we'll see one of four things :
1. A flashable Android 2.2 ROM that completely replaces WinMo as the Operating system
2. A flashable Android 2.3 (3.0) Gingerbread ROM
3. A flashable Windows Phone 7 ROM
4. The return of Christ
Zaron3d said:
4. The return of Christ
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That's it That's all...
funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
noris08 said:
funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
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Well I tried a lot of these "quick shortcuts" to make things work and nothing did. Believe me, I've been down every road to make this happen...
and yeah I guess I put this in the wrong section now that I look at it. Sorry!
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
vysus said:
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
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try this combo:
- wm - energy nov 8 21684 cht 1.8.5
- radio - 2.15
- android - mdeejay revolution 1.5
- kernel - mdeejay s2
i have only 6% battery drop over 9 hours of standby, all data transfers closed and gsm only, not 3g
all things i tested works flawless
i think you missed the most important thing...
--> hard format your SD card before trying
Camillo
Format or not the SD makes non differences, I have huge battery drain in every situation.
I've had several issues running mdeejay builds, so I prefer FroyoStone 3.2 by Darkstone. I've never tried Chucky ROMs before, so I'd like to flash the brand new one
@camillo
no i didn't forget format card. i just don't do that, formatted first time and never again since then
@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
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@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
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You're welcome
Unfortunately, NRG ROMs and PPP builds are not suitables for italian providers: using the first ones I had battery drain, trying the seconds I have had continuos data drops, missed calls & SMS, HUGE and nearly incredible battery drain.
I still would like to know which version of Chucky fits better with android, it's the last chance, after that I prefer to let go...
i think an correctly configured setcpu is the most important fact for battery life.
my combo:
winmob:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793814
radio: 2.12.50
Droid: hyperdroid 1.7 (nexusHD2 since yesterday cuz of new harastin kernel)
sdcard: transcent class6 sdhc
battery drain without setcpu (overnight, 8h): 40%
with : 3%
TBH I have found no difference between a fully featured winmo rom (laurentius V4 or Energy nov 8th) versus Ozdroid which was stripped down.
I have found that of course the kernel makes the most difference - currently on S2 and it seems rather peachy.
As for battery drain I have found that it is fine even without setcpu on this kernel - however - once in a while, especially at the end of the day, the battery drains super fast - I believe there is an errant process or data transfer that messes it up (perhaps whatsapp?).
I stillhowever have PPP disconnects regardless.
I haven't had one since I disabled the stock widget though.
i only have ppp disconnects if i kill all my tasks. if not, it works fine
I start off my android adventure few weeks back and now I found my treasure and have stop searching.
Here is my combination,
WM ROM: vbn clarity
Android rom: mdj froyo revolution 1.5
Kernel: mdj s2
I have tried some other build and the battery life can only last me half a day but with this combination after more than 12 hours of usage, I still have 40%. (Usage: check email every 30 mins, check xda app every 30mins, moderate web surfing, a few calls)
So for those still struggling to find the combination, you might want to try my combination. Enjoy
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A different spin on Android Issues
I too was having issues with SOD, random freezing/rebooting, robot voice etc and basically gave up on having a usable version of Android working on my device.
But then I had a slight lapse in judgement and came up with another hair-brained idea... I decided to attempt to get T-Mobile to let me just switch to a different phone like the Galaxy S / G2 / or MyTouch 4G.
So I task 29'ed the phone, flashed back to the OEM rom, then removed HSPL while not at work... Over the next 2 hours I began to notice that I was having issues even on the default OEM rom.
I got curious, removed the SD card, re-installed HSPL, re-downloaded the T-Mobile Official Rom from their website, and task 29'ed the phone again, reinstalled the OEM rom, and removed HSPL again just to make sure that I hadn't just got a corrupt download or something.
Within 20 mins of loading the T-Mobile rom back on the phone, my phone randomly rebooted itself. Later while I was in the middle of a phone call the phone just made a weird buzzing sound and froze. The buzzing sound would not go away until I removed the battery and restarted. I was also having many of the issues I was seeing in all of the Android builds that I had tried like the screen taking forever to come back on after being locked, the screen being non-responsive etc...
I had attributed all of these problems to the Android roms I was using and Android not being 100% and stil too buggy for the HD2 when it actually was a problem with the device itself.
I went to T-Mobile last night and they are sending me a new phone (probably a refurb) by the beginning of next week. I'm hoping that the new device will clear up all of the issues.
Just thought I would share my experiences, maybe some of you that are having issues with the Android builds could actually just have a bad device like I did...
Zaron3d said:
After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
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Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
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Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
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Uhhh... what? It depends on what you have running I guess. Mine seems to be running fine. Off the charger for about 3 hours and only down to 90%.
Since I've just had my HD2's screen replaced, I'm still on the stock ROM from when I got the phone back from HTC. I just popped my SD card back in and off I went. The stock ROM works perfectly with Android for me. The radio is the one they installed (see sig).
I'm not sure that WM ROM has that much effect tbh. With the ppp wrapper patched and running the S2 kernal from MDJ, I managed a 320 mile trip with Google Navigate running the entire time. I never had a single data drop or problem with the phone. I was connected to my car stereo via bluetooth too.
Hello people,
I'm new to the hd2. I'm running chuckyrom lite with shubcraft 2.0 with hastarin's 8.2 kernel and I THINK my radio is 2.15.50.14... But I'm not sure. (how do I check?)
I lose my data connection every minute or so, pretty much crippling the usage of this device.
So far my searching has turned up methods that don't work (toggling airplane mode, etc)
Is there a more stable build I can be using? Or anyway I can reduce the connection drops?
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I also have a similar problem. I have a completely stock WinMobile HD2 with the latest 2.15.50.14 also and I'm running DarkStone v3. This is my first Android ROM on the HD2. I've had it for about a week now.
I've ran my N1 for about a year now. I still have it and I'm just playing with the HD2 for now. I get the same drops as you where my service will just stop. A lot of the time my phone still show's full bars for reception. I think I'll set CM settings to give me a readout instead of the bars to see when I loose signal.
Very often when I do YouTube, or enter the Market, or the browser it will lag and get no connection for 30 seconds or more sometimes. Then start working, and occasionally I have to toggle Airplane Mode. But I'd love to be able to get a smooth and stable use out of it.
xguntherc said:
I also have a similar problem. I have a completely stock WinMobile HD2 with the latest 2.15.50.14 also and I'm running DarkStone v3. This is my first Android ROM on the HD2. I've had it for about a week now.
I've ran my N1 for about a year now. I still have it and I'm just playing with the HD2 for now. I get the same drops as you where my service will just stop. A lot of the time my phone still show's full bars for reception. I think I'll set CM settings to give me a readout instead of the bars to see when I loose signal.
Very often when I do YouTube, or enter the Market, or the browser it will lag and get no connection for 30 seconds or more sometimes. Then start working, and occasionally I have to toggle Airplane Mode. But I'd love to be able to get a smooth and stable use out of it.
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My darkstone v3 did the same thing till i down loaded new libhtc_ril_wapper v0.3, internet no longer cuts out.
found here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824413
crazynotrt said:
My darkstone v3 did the same thing till i down loaded new libhtc_ril_wapper v0.3, internet no longer cuts out.
found here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824413
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it drains battery a bit though?
battery drain is already bad enough tho
I dualboot android SD (Jaguarlani) and WP7. I hadnt used WP7 for a month now, and i've got an old 7740 rom of YUKI Back to the future. Now, while I was on, the phone started shedding battery life and getting hot. Within 40 minutes of minimal use it had used up 20% of the battery.
I'm using a 2.12 radio ( the recomennded one) and booting via magldr, Which rom should I flash to eliminate this issue And i've tried most fixes, which do not work.
I've got an europeian HD2 from italy.
I really like wp7, I really do, but I cannot use it with such horrible battery life, even SD android had 8 hours of fairly heavy use battery life. I imagine running it properly off nand will increase that.
Mine gets fairly hot and used battery like crazy when I watched videos or listen to music for an extended period of time as well.
However, I've been running DFT UltraFruit, for my daily phone, since it came out and my battery life has really improved.. 10-13 hours normal use, and it doesn't get as hot as it used too.
I'm in the US on t-mobile, using the most current radio... I'm not sure how much help that is, but that's my experience.
It's not that kind of issue, It gets extremely hot (think 50 to 60 C) when idling or using the internet for less then 10 minutes.
The thing is that the only place it gets hot is the 3g modem( I think ) which leads me to think that the issue is software - based.
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It's not that kind of issue, It gets extremely hot (think 50 to 60 C) when idling or using the internet for less then 10 minutes.
The thing is that the only place it gets hot is the 3g modem( I think ) which leads me to think that the issue is software - based.
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60c would burn your hand, if you can hold it, then it isnt that hot, if its down the bottom then it could also be wifi, all the gubbins are down that way
give ultrafruit a try, there is a huge difference in battery life, meaning that something isnt drawing as much power.
It might also be worth considering changing your radios, hard and soft, dispite common believe a newer radio doesnt mean a better one, usually carriers change radios based on their local settings in that market, so settings that might be good for one person might be terrible for another.
a very basic and over simplified, incorrect and generally a bit shoddy example might be that in your area the network is setup with settings that means your phone is trying double time to keep a connection, where as the same settings on my phone in my location might mean the phone doesnt need to try so hard because of my networks settings.... does that make sense?
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60c would burn your hand, if you can hold it, then it isnt that hot, if its down the bottom then it could also be wifi, all the gubbins are down that way
give ultrafruit a try, there is a huge difference in battery life, meaning that something isnt drawing as much power.
It might also be worth considering changing your radios, hard and soft, dispite common believe a newer radio doesnt mean a better one, usually carriers change radios based on their local settings in that market, so settings that might be good for one person might be terrible for another.
a very basic and over simplified, incorrect and generally a bit shoddy example might be that in your area the network is setup with settings that means your phone is trying double time to keep a connection, where as the same settings on my phone in my location might mean the phone doesnt need to try so hard because of my networks settings.... does that make sense?
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I will definetly try this new ultrafruit. How would I go about changing the soft radios though? The hard radio works really well on android and consumes barely any power, so I doubt that's the issue, I'm thinking more of a WP7-centric problem which points to softradio.
Other then that I do not have wi-fi on and I disabled 3g too, it still gets hot, and I wasnt exaggarating too much, it's in the range of barely being touchable, I would compare it to touching a hot-water run radiator that's been turned all the way up.
I live in bulgaria, and that's probably the core of the issue. However I have never switched softradios before, could you give me general directions, please?
keller112 said:
I will definetly try this new ultrafruit. How would I go about changing the soft radios though? The hard radio works really well on android and consumes barely any power, so I doubt that's the issue, I'm thinking more of a WP7-centric problem which points to softradio.
Other then that I do not have wi-fi on and I disabled 3g too, it still gets hot, and I wasnt exaggarating too much, it's in the range of barely being touchable, I would compare it to touching a hot-water run radiator that's been turned all the way up.
I live in bulgaria, and that's probably the core of the issue. However I have never switched softradios before, could you give me general directions, please?
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The software radio seems to be an invention of WP7, or at least thats the first we knew of it
The down side is you cant just flash a new radio like you can do with a hardware radio (Tri colour bootloader>plug in PC> install using the custom RRU)
To change the software radio you need to flash it with the initial ROM, meaning you can only change it when you wipe the whole device.
If you download a WP7 ROM, and then look at the files you will see a data.zip file. In that you will see a whole bunch of part files, the one you want is part 0
delete it within winrar, then add the part 0 from a different radio to the data.zip, using winrar again.
give me a few min and ill find you a list of all the radios
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http://www.multiupload.co.uk/BT6BI9FFDP
dazza9075 said:
The software radio seems to be an invention of WP7, or at least thats the first we knew of it
The down side is you cant just flash a new radio like you can do with a hardware radio (Tri colour bootloader>plug in PC> install using the custom RRU)
To change the software radio you need to flash it with the initial ROM, meaning you can only change it when you wipe the whole device.
If you download a WP7 ROM, and then look at the files you will see a data.zip file. In that you will see a whole bunch of part files, the one you want is part 0
delete it within winrar, then add the part 0 from a different radio to the data.zip, using winrar again.
give me a few min and ill find you a list of all the radios
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http://www.multiupload.co.uk/BT6BI9FFDP
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That link is barely alive, only rapidshare has it still up, thanks for the guidelines.
Haha, Yuki made it....his been gone awhile lol
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Same issue
Please, I need help too,
My phone is getting hot since a while.
This after I fully charged my battery.
:S Any hack infos?
Alright, got pdaimatejam's rom up and running, so far the battery life is good so far, gonna play a movie (akira) when it finishes transcoding (._.)
Any MKV or avi drivers for WP7?
So far though, with the 5.71 radio I havent gotten online, meaning no internet. Phone is functioning though.
Am I going to need to reflash again with an older radio?
Update: this rom is freaking sweet, battery is really really stable!
Update 2: Radio is using 3g networks without providing internet connection, the battery drain is still faster then android, but it's within 1 hour. Other then that the screen and sensors dont draw as much power so it's pretty decent right now.