Hi!
I just heard about Windows 8 and i have Two questions.
Does Windows 7 applications runt on this?
And Can you upgrade from Windows 7?
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xxviproxx said:
Hi!
I just heard about Windows 8 and i have Two questions.
Does Windows 7 applications runt on this?
And Can you upgrade from Windows 7?
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I solved this myself!
If you wan't links i can't post them so pm me for them!
the answer for everyone else is yes and yes and for the most part drivers from windows 7 also work.
EDIT: apps will be lost but settings and files will be kept.
Some stuff you need to right click and choose compatiblity mode.
FYI the windows phone emulator does some freaky **** to win8 so don't try running it, you've been warned.
Ok thanks!
My installation is stuck on 33%
What should i do?
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But windows 8 is not out yet?
You can download a developers preview. Looks quite nice.
Still stuck on 33%...
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Would you recommend trying Windows 8 developers preview or should I wait until the official release.
I think it is awesome try it!
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what could prevent you from trying?
Install it in a virtual machine for easy installing and easy deleting
OR
create an extra partition and install it there for a realistic performance impression.
win8 is nice but feels more like a mobile phone os than one geared for computers. tied too closely to the ms live services as well, did not like that it would change my live messenger picture when i changed my login image on win8.
if you have a touch screen pc (like the aio's) then this might be more practical, but it doesn't seem to be intended for mouse and keyboard use.
Windows 8 is for the most part, pretty similar to Windows 7.
Most applications and drivers will work.
But so far here's a mini list of applications that aren't working for anyone:
- AIM
- Combat Arms
- Maple Story
(yeah it's a really bad list but hey XD)
How did you manage to upgrade from Windows 7? I don't have the option on Windows 7 Professional.
first. there are some apps which from win7 can not run in win 8.
second. you cant upgrade to win 8 from win 7.
finally. win 8 is great. but it is not stable with some kind of hardware. you should install both win 7 and win 8 to have the best in working and getting exp
xFrozen said:
Windows 8 is for the most part, pretty similar to Windows 7.
Most applications and drivers will work.
But so far here's a mini list of applications that aren't working for anyone:
- AIM
- Combat Arms
- Maple Story
(yeah it's a really bad list but hey XD)
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add Samsung Kies ;-)
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I tried out Windows 8 about a month ago and felt that it was a decent experience. Unfortunately for me though it wouldnt find the driver for my wireless card (WRT54GS) so I ended up uninstalling it.
Maybe its me but I don't see the big deal about it. I didnt really use the metro UI and the new changes to explorer didnt make or break the experience, it was just meh.
I'm tempted to try it but having issues with drivers and stuff is too annoying lol.
Hi all!
Well I'm running W8 dev installed in host (not virual) and it works great on my 6 years old computer.
I think it's awesome, it takes lots of memory but it wors so fast.
I was running w7 x86 before trying this and it was quite slow for my comp also for playing (league of legends around 25-30fps). Now I'm running w8 64 and it has been improved from 30-40fps (my graphic card is quite old). Maybe cause it's 64 instead of 32 bits?
My comp is an AMD athlon 64 3800 x2, 2GB DDR, 320GB SATA and nVidia 7800 GT CO
Anyway I recommend for everyone to try it, I've been using it a week from now and I think it's awesome but there're some apps that doesn't works at all of the Metro UI such as Socialité and the Weather app
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i installed win8 on my laptop. It is using similar resources to win7.
Win8 is great, but its still very buggy (pretty good for a pre beta)
I am sure it change a lot from now till the release date, but at least we get a picture of what to expect.
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Simply amazing!!! Enjoy XDAers..
http://code.google.com/p/live-android/
if you want to use VirtualBox to run it: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Can i run hero on my PC? I got 4Gb ram thats waiting to test this.My Cpu is a P9800 i think 2.4GHZ, is that enough? Cant forget about the Nvidia 260GtX with enough power to play crysis maxed out
But you have to give props to Microsoft for their superb OS's(Win7/Vista) and some to dell for their great quality and prices...Well im sold here..
Ace42 said:
Can i run hero on my PC? I got 4Gb ram thats waiting to test this.My Cpu is a P9800 i think 2.4GHZ, is that enough? Cant forget about the Nvidia 260GtX with enough power to play crysis maxed out
But you have to give props to Microsoft for their superb OS's(Win7/Vista) and some to dell for their great quality and prices...Well im sold here..
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There is absolutely nothing good about Windows Vista.
Macmee said:
There is absolutely nothing good about Windows Vista.
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+1. Window's Vista sucks, had to get rid of Vista all together and run Ubuntu 9.10. But this is a neat idea running android on your computer. Might have to partition my hard drive and test it out.
I loaded this as a livecd. Hmmm Either it don't work or don't do much. It loads the exact same thing as an emulator basically. My computer looked like a blown up version of my phone. The mouse didnt work. When I tried to move the mouse, the homescreen changed to a different one. The top even had a roaming symbol on it. Guess I don't see the point.
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+1. Window's Vista sucks, had to get rid of Vista all together and run Ubuntu 9.10. But this is a neat idea running android on your computer. Might have to partition my hard drive and test it out.
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When I can install Ubuntu on my home PC with the same or less amount of problems as Vista, then I might consider it.
With that said, I am a big fan of Mint. All of the love from Ubuntu, refined. And yes, Mint runs very well on my home PC.
Here's a link to another project called Android-x86, similar to the live android posted above
http://www.android-x86.org/
To install apps: http://code.google.com/p/live-android/wiki/howtoinstallapps
Using the Wiki is very useful as well in case you are running into any type of issues, mine is working fine good people : http://code.google.com/p/live-android/w/list
Hai all,
Windows Phone 7 can run in HD2..
Can someone tell me if its possible to run WIndows Phone 7 on Touch HD, if the HD2 Rom is reworked according to HTC Touch HD..??
I am begging our Super Chefs to cook a ROM of Windows Phone 7 for the Touch HD.....Please.....
As some winmo 7 phones only have 3.7 inch, it shud work on Touch hd...isnt..?
Also Processor can be adjusted by clocking..isnt it..?
I am not suure though...
Please discuss...
Thanks..
Surely it is possible, and not so hard as it would seem to be.
And sure, HD hardware is capable, but it would be a bit laggy at times.
The problem is that xda lacks dev support.
Are you serious, tell me you are joking?! The Touch hD Will 100% not run Wp7. it doesn't fill the chassis 1 requirement. it has a resistivetouch screen. NO EXISTING WM PHONE CAN UPGRADE TO WP7 (THEY ALL AVE RESISTVIVE SCREENS) apart from hd2
I'm sure this ha been posted many times before.
Dude, resistive screen is no drawback, true some function wouldn't easily be implemented like pinch to zoom, but its NOT impossible. As I said, devs are lacking will to do anything for older phones and that's the REAL issue. Deal with it.
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Dude, resistive screen is no drawback, true some function wouldn't easily be implemented like pinch to zoom, but its NOT impossible. As I said, devs are lacking will to do anything for older phones and that's the REAL issue. Deal with it.
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True, no devs will support 'old devices' Get your facts right before posting. As part of the hardware requorements, the Chassis 1 minumum requires uliti touch capacitive screens. wp7 WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED ON TOUCH HD! unless someone smart enough can rewrite the touch drivers and digitilizers to match the resistibve screen which i think is VERY DIFFICULT and highly unlikely to happened.. most apps require multitouc
h.
Do some research.
You might also consider that devs lack time to support everything.
but i think will work, becoz android is a mutitouch capacitive screen software, and still the android (even with sense) works in Touch HD...
So windows phone 7 should work....I hope...
Anyway I got windows phone 7 working in touch HD using throttlelauncher, it is exact same as WP7 in front page, and some pages are actual one...
I am happy with it...
MagicMans said:
but i think will work, becoz android is a mutitouch capacitive screen software, and still the android (even with sense) works in Touch HD...
So windows phone 7 should work....I hope...
Anyway I got windows phone 7 working in touch HD using throttlelauncher, it is exact same as WP7 in front page, and some pages are actual one...
I am happy with it...
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Could you tell us how you got it to work?
This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
Download and Install the Windows Phone 7 Here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859799
Remember to Use Activesync to transfer files.....it doesnt work if you copy from memory card.
Can someone tell me will it work if I install the windows 7 for HD2 on Touch HD from memory card?
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Can someone tell me will it work if I install the windows 7 for HD2 on Touch HD from memory card?
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You are incorrect. Android is not designed for capacitive. it was designed for both resistive and capacitive. There are many resisitve touch screeens running amdroid natively. But WP7 was designed ONLY for capacitive. Try installing it from your SD card then... But you will only result with a non-bootable bricked device...
I highly highly doubt WP7 will be possible on any other wm device (apart from Hd2)
lol.... i knew that i would brick it...
But there are no resistive screen android devices....is there..?
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lol.... i knew that i would brick it...
But there are no resistive screen android devices....is there..?
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There are MANY resisitive android devices. LG Optimus GT505, Alcattel etx...
MagicMans said:
This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
Download and Install the Windows Phone 7 Here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859799
Remember to Use Activesync to transfer files.....it doesnt work if you copy from memory card.
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That's just a theme for winmo 6.5
In this video, we take a look at the latest version of Fireslave's Windows Phone 7 theme for Windows Mobile 6.5.
the windows phone 7 link is just a theme. It doesn't actually give you windows 7 capabilities. It's pretty good though, however the Froyo X Red build is now a very clean and fast build, and is much faster than this windows phone 7 THEME if you ask me.
Android is THE way forward
i agree about android. however, i must say, i actually prefer a good windows phone 7 theme to the actual OS, because it comes with a lot of functuality and the slick interface, without actually having all the restrictions of windows phone 7, like the lack of windows mobile app support, copy & paste and a system wide file and registry explorer. actually i love, that i am able to send anything (even cabs and mp3) to other phones through bluetooth and other great freedoms, that come with the old winmo. even more a reason to hope for a fully working android on the blackstone. it offers the great 3rd party app support of wp7 or ios with many freedoms and full customizability.
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i agree about android. however, i must say, i actually prefer a good windows phone 7 theme to the actual OS, because it comes with a lot of functuality and the slick interface, without actually having all the restrictions of windows phone 7, like the lack of windows mobile app support, copy & paste and a system wide file and registry explorer. actually i love, that i am able to send anything (even cabs and mp3) to other phones through bluetooth and other great freedoms, that come with the old winmo. even more a reason to hope for a fully working android on the blackstone. it offers the great 3rd party app support of wp7 or ios with many freedoms and full customizability.
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+1 file sharing is a great must have for me. Is this possible with amdroid?
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This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
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looks nice
Is there anything sepcial in WP7 other than live tiles..
I used the theme for 1 day....it is good to scroll down and up...then go to pages etc....but there is nothing to do in it.....in android u can do so many things..
Do u know anyother specialities of windows phone 7..?
i'll try it... nice info..
Hi,
I have had a problem with my laptop for a couple of weeks but it used to be like this when i was on windows 7. I have a compaq presario CQ60 214-em it is a 1.70GHZ intel celeron dual core and 3gb ram and also running consumer preview windows 8 . My problem is from time to time my computer gets very slow and sometimes very fast (like now) sometime when i click on the metro apps for example the email app it hangs on the it boot screen and then goes back to the start same with other apps. i had a look in the task manager when my laptop gets slow and the processor is running at a speed of 0.20 ghz?? and the cpu usage is mostly in the 90's % but when it is running fast it is usually using the full 1.70Ghz .
I was also thinking about going to Windows 8 RTM and do a fresh install but I am looking on torrent sites and it looks like people are having trouble activating. I have included a screenshot for your attention
If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Can anyone help please?
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Suggest getting the Enterprise Trial version and try that. It's good for 90 days. You're running an old beta, so the first step is to get the latest code. After that, you're on your own.
BTW, it's dumb to talk of torrenting the RTM on a public forum. The only thing worse than cocktail pirates are ones who can't troubleshoot their own PCs.
I've spent some time re-installing a lot of games to find quite a few won't work now under Windows 8. Some will just crash on start up and won't boot or give various errors. I've confirmed online others that are experiencing similar issues. I've also noticed that installing framework .net during some game installations fail (not sure if is related or not).
A few examples of games are:
- Super Streetfighter IV Arcade Edition
- Streetfighter X Tekken
- Transformers: Fall of Cybertron
- The Darkness 2
- Rayman Origins (boots but no black screen and audio only)
- Flatout Ultimate Carnage
- Bastion (boots but no black screen and audio only)
- Dead Space 2 (boots but no black screen and audio only)
Does anyone know if these issues will be resolved closer to release through graphics card driver updates or other windows updates? Or will these have to be fixed by individual patches from the game manufacturers themselves? I would hate to think Windows 8 will break many of my games from running.
I've been considering installing Windows 7 on a separate partition just so I can play some of these games that won't run under Windows 8. However I read that you must install the older operating system first, and then install the more recent operating system. If you don't (for example, if you install Windows 7 on a computer already running Windows 8), you can render your system inoperable. This can happen because earlier versions of Windows don't recognize the startup files used in more recent versions of Windows and can overwrite them.
Anyone know if that will be an issue?
What video card do you have?
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What video card do you have?
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Nvidia GTX 590
http://downloadnvidiadriversdirect....dia-geforce-gtx-590-driver-windows-8.html?m=1
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Not sure I need that. I'm running the latest Windows 8 x64 drivers already right from the Nvidia website. Unless there's a new one that just came out in the last week I missed.
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Not sure I need that. I'm running the latest Windows 8 x64 drivers already right from the Nvidia website. Unless there's a new one that just came out in the last week I missed.
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The wddm 1.2 drivers are still a bit too fresh. The wrinkles should sort themselves out after a few more driver releases. Some reports say that the WDDM 1.1 drivers have fewer issues, though you won't get access to any of the new features.
Add Hitman Sniper Challenge to the list.
With previous Windows versions it was possible to e.g. install Windows XP after Windows Vista onto a separate partition (making Windows XP the only bootable system as the Bootloader was overwritten) and then do a Bootloader-Repair from the Vista installation medium which would find both XP and Vista and create a dual boot configuration.
This theoretically should still be possible with Windows 8 although I only tried dual booting with it when installing Windows 8 after Windows 7 so I can't guarantee that it works that way. In the worst case you should be able to get Windows 8 working again by doing a repair installation but when doing such things it's always a good idea to backup important data first.
As for the games: some will have driver issues, some will have issues with version numbers Windows 8 reports which they don't recognize or other Windows 8 behaviors they don't expect (which would make a game patch necessary) and some would likely work when launched in compatibility mode (right click on the Shortcut and navigate to Compatibility and select an older version of Windows).
Also add sleeping dogs to it.
Doesn't work in compatibility mode too. :'(
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I know for a fact Dead Space 2 works perfectly. In fact every game I have thrown at it works save for a few games from the Win98 era.
There has got to be something going wrong in a different area on your system.
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I know for a fact Dead Space 2 works perfectly. In fact every game I have thrown at it works save for a few games from the Win98 era.
There has got to be something going wrong in a different area on your system.
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Nah.... I am one hell of a gamer, and yes 90% games work totally fine on windows 8. But some damn games, such as hp deathly hallows, and a 2012 game, sleeping dogs do not work whatsoever though m using the latest GPU drivers etc.
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Aldokazer said:
do not work whatsoever though m using the latest GPU drivers etc.
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that might well be your problem then. Some people have reported having to roll back 1 driver version to get some software running.
I have tried certain games on Windows 8 including new and old and all of them worked fine for me. I must say, if a game runs on 7, it should work fine on 8 as well. But if it does not, .exe file that runs game requires some tweaking. But it is ''illegal'' to mess with such files in one sense.
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
willrider said:
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
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at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
makanimike said:
at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
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Most likely running under vnc
yep!! chrooted and vnc'ed into it.
everything seems smooth... except when unmounting
May have to give this a try
I can upload my script if it helps.
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I can upload my script if it helps.
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There are several apps such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid which automate the process of setting it up. Might be worth checking out for anyone interested.
nicely done!
Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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Weird... I'm not quite sure how that would work - you'd be multitasking the OSes.. which is brutal.
Oh well, time to do a little digging.
We need a native port of Ubuntu because this will transform our tablet into a more productive product then tablets with Win8 .
An alternative would be "Ubuntu for Android", but again, is not available.
The VNC thing is lacking pressure sensitive controls, the protocol does not support this.
how to install？
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Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
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the note runs a ARM image of ubuntu, using chroot and VNC into it (localhost or127.0.0.1).
it would be pretty pointless to show it running off a pc.
So based on my understanding, you installed ubuntu on your galaxy note 10.1 (which runs in parallel with the android OS) and the only way to access it is through VNC at the local port? Is my understanding correct?
If yes, does this run GIMP like other ARM linux devices?, cause this might make me want to buy a note 10.1 more (Still on the fence since I can only buy it on December). Could you also post the resource links/scripts so that other members with their notes can try? I'd also like to ask how is the performance over VNC? Does it lag a bit?
You can install GIMP and other apps that are not architecture dependent. However it is not for everyday use as it is rather slow. I haven't tried image editing yet. Vnc doesn't support pen pressure and all that.
I will upload the script once I clean it up a bit and plug a few holes
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how to install？
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Easiest way is this app, it has links to prebuilt ARM images and all that good stuff.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Anyway, for people who are confused, all chroot does is essentially let you start up Ubuntu userspace stuff on top of the Android kernel, since it's just a Linux kernel anyway. The main benefit is to be able to run any ARM linux software, although graphical stuff is fairly useless because currently there isn't any complete port of X11 to Android so you have to use VNC to run graphical stuff which becomes generally pretty slow no matter the device. You can also SSH into the Ubuntu install which I find more useful for eg. running a web server development environment, or just to have git/ssh/other proper Linux utilities rather than having to use busybox stuff. Personally I think the most useful thing is if you're a vim/emacs user and have a bluetooth keyboard, you can get a lot of work done that way. My emacs-fu is weak so I haven't really used it that much to be honest.
So the performance with gui sucks as of now. Oh well I'll just wait for the official ubuntu OS to be available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
Based on initial data, these are the system requirements:
According to Canonical a phone needs the following requirements:[6]
Dual-core 1 GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; OpenGL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2 GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video-out with secondary framebuffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
Hope someone ports the official builds on the ubuntu phones and makes compatible drivers for the wacom and touchscreen.