Worth switching to DVP from a HTC G2? - Venue Pro General

Been looking to get a Streak 7 again now that Honeycomb is on it officially, and I was thinking about having a little diversity and getting a Windows phone to supplement it. I'm limited to phones with keyboards (can't stand touchscreen keyboards) and T-Mobile (loving the $30 "Walmart" plan). And personally, I think it'd be cool to have a phone and a tablet both by the same company and in Otterbox cases
Anyway, over a HTC G2 - are there any major features/flaws the DVP has over it? I've read that the compass doesn't work, and Wifi hotspot may not ever come to it, but neither really matters to me - what I care mostly about is getting a decent signal, the keyboard, being able to sync my Gmail contacts, and being able to surf the web - without slowdowns/bugs/crashes/etc. and whatnot. Not that my G2 is bad, but it could be better.
Also, what's the battery life like? And how does the screen do outdoors (and if badly, is there a good screen protector to alleviate it)?

The G2 is s great phone but is now very dated. I've had a few of them. Battery life is terrible but there is great dev for it!!
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magiconthetire said:
The G2 is s great phone but is now very dated. I've had a few of them. Battery life is terrible but there is great dev for it!!
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So...is the DVP any better?

I had the G2 for a while. I have to say that I do love my DVP. The keyboard took some getting used to, but now my fingers just fly right through that thing. The browser is good. It's a typical smartphone browser, but it has never crashed on me or been buggy. I absolutely love the way it looks and the fact that portrait sliders are unique. Over the new phones that are coming out, I wouldn't pick this one, but over the G2? I'd definitely pick this phone if you aren't in to the hotspot, compass and all the apps and stuff Android has. But that's a WP7 thing I guess.

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I had the G2 for a while. I have to say that I do love my DVP. The keyboard took some getting used to, but now my fingers just fly right through that thing. The browser is good. It's a typical smartphone browser, but it has never crashed on me or been buggy. I absolutely love the way it looks and the fact that portrait sliders are unique. Over the new phones that are coming out, I wouldn't pick this one, but over the G2? I'd definitely pick this phone if you aren't in to the hotspot, compass and all the apps and stuff Android has. But that's a WP7 thing I guess.
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Well AFAIK the DVP is the only Windows phone both with a physical keyboard and compatible with with T-Mobile, and my other options would be either a Nokia E7 (well-built slider that looks like the G2 with a nice camera and screen) or Nokia E6 (BB-type phone with nice feature set), but I'm completely unfamiliar with Symbian (not that I'm familiar with Windows phones), and I'd mostly be getting either Nokia for being true world-phones (in that I can still use them if T-Mobile goes under and AT&T doesn't keep the 1700 band, or if I move outside of T-Mobile coverage).
It being stable is definitely a plus for me...how's the build quality? I'd be getting a Otterbox case for it regardless, but still.
And yeah, apps definitely don't matter seeing as how I'll have the Streak 7 to accompany any phone, and there aren't really any apps I can think of that I absolutely need to have on my phone.

Build quality is kind of a gamble. The first unit I got had an off set screen (when closed, the screen didn't align with the rest of the phone) and I have heard of other people having issues with theirs and having to get replacements. But the one I have now is perfect, and it's great. It feels solid and I'm not worried about the sliding mechanism for the keyboard breaking anytime soon. Without a doubt, with the Otterbox, you'd have a tank in your hands. Sorry. I'm not sure this stuff I'm saying is helping out, let me know if there's something more in depth you want to know.

sur3nd1p1ty said:
Build quality is kind of a gamble. The first unit I got had an off set screen (when closed, the screen didn't align with the rest of the phone) and I have heard of other people having issues with theirs and having to get replacements. But the one I have now is perfect, and it's great. It feels solid and I'm not worried about the sliding mechanism for the keyboard breaking anytime soon. Without a doubt, with the Otterbox, you'd have a tank in your hands. Sorry. I'm not sure this stuff I'm saying is helping out, let me know if there's something more in depth you want to know.
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Your posts definitely help - only have a few things to ask now:
-Battery life? Moderate daily use, mostly on wifi with 3g otherwise.
-Screen quality? I know it's AMOLED, but is it any good, and how is it in sunlight?
-Signal and call quality - noticeably better or worse than any other phones you've used?

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? For you Nexus 1 Owners

Ok i having been looking at this phone for a while and i just wanted to get some feedback from owners. How does it feel in your hand how is the speed all that info will be great. One big problem is that i cant go to a tmobile store and mess with the phone and if i order it and dont like it i have to play a $45 dollar restocking fee. so your input will be great
Got nothing but praise for your criteria... seems the right size for my hand, and well built. Just enough weight to it to not feel cheap.
Speed is very good coming from a Nokia N95, so probably not the best person to judge. In general, it's bloody good. My first Android phone but didn't take a lot of getting used to.
It has occasional (rare) keyboard oddness, although that seems par for the course to be honest, and a quick lock/unlock is all that's needed to sort it.
This phone is amazing. It is really fast and I never have any lag. The stock ROM on it only supports 256 RAM atm, but Cyanogen has the himem kernal in his build. The phone is really light and very thin. The phone has a nice texture to it and the screen is amazing. The soft keys can get a little annoying at time but its not something that would stop me from loving this phone. The pictures it takes are very good and the video is better than most phones I have had in the past. The LED flash is super bright and helps take nice pics when its dark. One other gripe I have is, if you want to take out the micro sd card you have to remove the battery. Hope this helps you decide.
the phone feels awesome! my hands feel soothed and at peace when they are holding the phone... bout the only way i can describe it
its by far the best phone i've ever owned (iphone 3G, BB Bold, Nokia E71, HTC Magic) in terms of build quality. It is one of the fastest phones on the market right now, and it is absolutely evident in the software and the overall snappiness. The back of the phone is a soft-touch rubbery type of material on the back. There are metallic accents and the screen is unbeatable. When I first looked at the screen when I opened it was amazing. When you look back at your old phone is where you will see the difference. The Nexus will make any phone you've owned look washed out and low-res. Overall, I'm happy I bought the phone.
It does suck that you can't go to Tmo and test one out and there are no "google or htc stores". which brings me to my first problem with the phone. If something goes wrong with it you have to pack it up, go through a gauntlet of phone calls, send it in, and wait for your money back.
Second problem (and I'm not sure if it's widespread or just me) is the power button. It gets stuck and is not very sensitive. It has the same function as the iPhone's button. It turns on the phone and puts it into sleep mode. Mine is completely stuck and takes me several hard pushes to get it to react. It may just be my phone, but with any technology there will be some risk I guess.
Other than that it's a great phone. If you plan on rooting with it then add an extra 2000% more awesomeness.
Hope that helped a little.
cheers
Best, Fastest, & Coolest device I have owned (and I have owned a few)
I'm running mine totally stock. I can tell you that when I was messing around with my G1 a couple days ago, which runs SuperD (arguably the fastest G1 ROM), I found myself waiting for apps to open or screens to switch... what I'm saying is that the N1's speed will spoil you.
hands down the best phone ive ever owned.. and ive owned quite a few.. i absolutely love the speed.. the feel.. weight.. battery life could be a touch better but im not complaining.. its much better than the G1.. which this thing trumps it in every category... i actually enjoy using the v keyboard .. dont miss the hard keyboard at all... you wont be dissappointed
Honestly I think it's too slippery some of my friends almost dropped it x_x. So now I don't like anyone to use it if i don't have the case on.
I am concern about all of these keyboard/buttons malfunctions. There has been a lot of talk about the 3Gfix. Are they fixing these touch screen problem or are they just eeeee.
Also is it possible to use this phone without data plan? Just use wifi for data? I am not into paying $30, while I am surrounded by WiFi for a good part of my day. Anyone comment on the suitability of the Wifi?
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I am concern about all of these keyboard/buttons malfunctions. There has been a lot of talk about the 3Gfix. Are they fixing these touch screen problem or are they just eeeee.
Also is it possible to use this phone without data plan? Just use wifi for data? I am not into paying $30, while I am surrounded by WiFi for a good part of my day. Anyone comment on the suitability of the Wifi?
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The wifi has been all good to me. And I know you can use it without a data plan tho only if you pay the full price.
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Ok i having been looking at this phone for a while and i just wanted to get some feedback from owners. How does it feel in your hand how is the speed all that info will be great. One big problem is that i cant go to a tmobile store and mess with the phone and if i order it and dont like it i have to play a $45 dollar restocking fee. so your input will be great
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Fit & Finish
I have bigger hands (XL size gloves), I find the N1 to be a great fit. I can comfortably and securely hold the phone with one hand, while also using just my thumb to do pretty much everything.
Speed?
Impressive indeed. Windows and apps already open are near instantaneous to switch to, and opening an app fresh is still satisfyingly fast.
Screen
Along with the crisp colors and excellent contrast, a BIG plus not to be missed is the resolution (480x800). At that rez, the level of sharpness and detail is fantastic.
To be fair, there's also been a large amount of frustration and complaints...Most notably spotty 3G performance. If you haven't already, you should also check out the Google Help Forums to get an idea of what people are complaining about. For me though, I've had no issues.
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The wifi has been all good to me. And I know you can use it without a data plan tho only if you pay the full price.
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Some people said that their Wifi do not reconnect automatically when they turn it on. Any problem you have with that? it is kinda of important for that to be automatic if I use it as my "data plan"
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Some people said that their Wifi do not reconnect automatically when they turn it on. Any problem you have with that? it is kinda of important for that to be automatic if I use it as my "data plan"
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I have had mixed results with it auto connecting. Sometimes it will without a hitch, and sometimes it will make me manually do it.
Love this phone. I have had the iphone 3g, iphone 3gs, g1, palm pre, sprint cdma hero, and now the nexus one. The nexus one is by far the best of all of them. It does have some things that make me grumble like the soft keyboard but with all the alternat keyboards its not hard to find something to make you content.
The screen and the feel in the hand are the best features about this device. It is smoking fast but with a screen like this I am happy to wait and stare.
best phone ive ever owned

thinking about getting a Nexus One - a few questions

how is the battery life?
is the phone stable on AT&T?
i'm coming from an SE X10. the phone is eye candy. and other than the camera, it ain't all that.
looks like nexus one is getting ALL the goodies. so i'm thinking about picking one up.
Battery life is fair to good.
...Yes (why wouldn't it be?)
just wanted to know if there were some known issues with the phone on AT&T because i hate getting drop calls
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just wanted to know if there were some known issues with the phone on AT&T because i hate getting drop calls
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Dropped calls are a network issue, not a hardware issue
If I were you, (OP) I would save up my money for the HTC Passion.
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If I were you, (OP) I would save up my money for the HTC Passion.
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arcticreaver said:
just wanted to know if there were some known issues with the phone on AT&T because i hate getting drop calls
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No issues I know of with the phone. OP, no one likes dropped calls. Mine works fine - in this area. Your mileage may vary.
I can go a day, but not two with a single charge most of the time, unless I am using turn by turn nav, and then I am charging while driving. Radios eat batteries. Run only those you need, and keep good widgets handy to manage them.
I've had the Nexus One for AT&T for close to a month, and I live in the DC area. Take my unscientific, layman's review for what it is.
The phone is very nice. It's easily the best phone I've ever had, but I cannot say that it's a superphone without adding certain things to consider. I've been on this forum for a long time, since I bought an 8525 and was blown away to find through Google searches that people were customizing their phones to speed them up.
I really thought my days of modding the phone to death and waiting for the latest dev release to speed my phone up would be over with a 1Ghz phone with 512 MB of RAM running Android. Sadly enough, that's just not true. I figured the phone would fly out of the box. In a lot of ways it does, but I found the stock ROM to not be aesthetically smooth. The scrolling on the default launcher is borderline painful considering the hardware. Third party launchers like LauncherPro are essential (to me) for a smooth user experience.
I'm also disappointed by the browsing experience. Many sites feature choppy scrolling, another thing I thought would be behind me with a phone so powerful. Considering how the iPhone 3G my girlfriend has regularly puts up a smoother scrolling experience than the Nexus One particularly hits home.
But, after some tweaking (Cyanogen Mod, a 1.1 Ghz Kernel, and some third party apps from the Market), I am really, really enjoying the phone. The camera is very high quality, better than I expected, and the flash works much better than I anticipated. I find myself rarely using my desktop or laptop because everything I'd do on there I can accomplish on my phone. It's become rather integral to my day to day activity.
I'm probably a heavier user than most people, so my battery life is rather flimsy. I can drain the battery easily in half a day, but I keep push on, keep the brightest relatively high, and am always tinkering around with it. I bought this pack of 2 batteries and an external charger for about 20 bucks off of eBay, so I'm never without a fresh battery so it's not a big deal for me, but it would have been nice to have better battery life.
One of the biggest glaring faults is the touch screen sensor used in this phone. When I see the term superphone, I don't expect to find out that previous generation, inexpensive components are used. As it stands now, the sensor gets confused when two touches are put on within 15mm along the same axis. What this means is that for games where say a virtual stick and buttons are along the same axis you will have input issues because it'll read as one straight line rather than you moving the stick up while pressing fire.
It's something you can look up on the internet or youtube. It's been talked about quite extensively. It's definitely the biggest detractor for me. It's fine for browsing and pinching, but if you game keep that in mind. You'll also occasionally find some weird inputs in general at random, especially if there are a lot of finger prints on the screen, or if you're holding the phone with one hand and you try to reach across the screen with your thumb. All in all it's poor form to use such a lame sensor, especially considering that phones generations before this one have better hardware.
But, I love the phone. It being a Google phone almost guarantees that it will be first in line for Android updates (Froyo?).
The pro's outweigh the con's, in my opinion, and it's a very nice phone. Froyo will make it an even better phone. As far as 3G, I don't have any problems. I've gotten at as high as ~2900kbps, which is a lot faster than I ever got on my iPhone or Tilt 2.
The only phone I'd take over this is the Evo 4G, because of the screen and the 4G. But from what I read the camera's actually better on the Nexus One.
Don't do it! Nexus is all hype. Keep looking, there are better phones on the market. I love my nexus, but it annoys me. It has stupid little quirks. I can't wait until my next phone.
With that said, if you still want it. Battery life is impressive and AT&T connectivity is decent in my area.
I just dumped my iPhone 3g for the Nexus one.
The out of the box Rom is crap, particularly if you need Exchange sync full support.
You need to unlock the bootloader and put a better rom on.
Once I switched to Modaco's R21 Rom and now trying some different Kernels, it does everything I need.
It is fast, stable, my coverage on ATT is still the same, no difference.
Maybe look at getting the HTC Desire, that will run on ATT right? There are versions out there you can get that will run 3G I thought.
Nexus is not all hype... obviously no phone is perfect but I didn't regret spending $560+ for this phone... if you root or not froyo will make this phone a great buy.
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arcticreaver said:
how is the battery life?
is the phone stable on AT&T?
i'm coming from an SE X10. the phone is eye candy. and other than the camera, it ain't all that.
looks like nexus one is getting ALL the goodies. so i'm thinking about picking one up.
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Wait until June 4th and see how the Evo launch goes!
The Nexus One is amazing, but the Evo is just GOD-like!
thank you all for the feedbacks for the nexus one.
i guess the thing about nexus one is that it's going to be getting all the updates firsthand and a lot faster than almost all the phones out there. flash and the allegedly 450% boost in speed is something that i seriously consider.
i like the evo but i'm not sure if it would work with ATT's network.
HighTech216 said:
Don't do it! Nexus is all hype.
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I think the Nexus is the least hyped phone if you compare it to iPhone forexample. Especially since it's the Google phone.. you would belive it was hyped up and donw, but there was little publicity about it in my opinion. Just rumor talk and it suddenly was out for sale..
arcticreaver said:
thank you all for the feedbacks for the nexus one.
i guess the thing about nexus one is that it's going to be getting all the updates firsthand and a lot faster than almost all the phones out there. flash and the allegedly 450% boost in speed is something that i seriously consider.
i like the evo but i'm not sure if it would work with ATT's network.
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If all goes well, i'm ordering my nexus one tomorrow. You bet i'm excited. I believe the EVO only works for sprint.. but I may be wrong about that.
arcticreaver said:
thank you all for the feedbacks for the nexus one.
i guess the thing about nexus one is that it's going to be getting all the updates firsthand and a lot faster than almost all the phones out there. flash and the allegedly 450% boost in speed is something that i seriously consider.
i like the evo but i'm not sure if it would work with ATT's network.
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The Sprint Evo will definitely not work on AT&T.
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If all goes well, i'm ordering my nexus one tomorrow. You bet i'm excited. I believe the EVO only works for sprint.. but I may be wrong about that.
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Give 'em hell!
i'm really thinking about getting the nexus one. google store is closing down so i guess i have to make my decision real soon.
right now it's all about the software. i think x10 has a better overall hardware but the software is outdated and there are apps that do not support 1.6. plus flash is coming out for android and nexus one rooted or not will get it regardless. so the hardware for my x10 is impressive but without the software to make advantage of the x10 is kinda leaving me with a sour taste in my mouth. plus no multi-touch for x10, ever. another drawback...
EDIT: Read a post wrong.
I've been very very happy with my N1, much happier than my friends were with their iPhones when they first came out.
Im fine with mine. I can make it through the day on a battery although just barely on heavier usage days. This is all I have got out of any recent smartphone so charging nightly is situation normal to me. Mine has had no issues. Personally I have been quite happy with the N1, its been a pleasure to use and I have no problem with hanging on to it till the next thing comes along.

Vibrant for nexus?

Im thinking to trade brand new vibrant for mint condition nexus one with all orginal stuff that came with it? good deal? vibrants too buggy man?
The smaller screen and the not as good touch screen really makes the deal sour. I have both and the nexus is awesome for hacking and Rom dev. But this phone is.just so damn beautiful.
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Honestly, if you can wait a month (Or so they say) for froyo + driver fixes, vibrant will perform better in all ways.
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Honestly, if you can wait a month (Or so they say) for froyo + driver fixes, vibrant will perform better in all ways.
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Agreed, patience will pay off.
Pm me. Have an N1. Had it since launch T-Mobile. Only one little mark on side. Pics if you want. All original box and everything it came w. Plus a gel case and black siedio slider case.
is it me or the keyboard rotates very slow like when u rotate it goes laggyish also sometimes its standing up and its on rotation as in sideways
I got a Vibrant on the release to replace my N1...
But it has been almost 2 weeks but I cannot do it any longer... I switched back to my N1 today.. My reasons were:
trackball-- I always miss type and the trackball is soo much easier than..
battery life-- same usage but the Samsung cannot make it all day..
2.2.. Main reason, love the built in teethering and speed.
N1 car kit-great for hands free.
online support-- lots of n1 roms.
cover-belt clip--both phones are HUGE and trying to find a belt clip to carry them sucks, I found one for the N1 I love and there are really none out there for the Vibrant..
So, I love the Samsung and think as soon as a 2.2 rom comes out I will switch back but for now I will continue using the N1...
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is it me or the keyboard rotates very slow like when u rotate it goes laggyish also sometimes its standing up and its on rotation as in sideways
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Nothing is slow about this phone to me. Just wit for 2.2.. gonna make it way faster...
Trackball is ugly, and there is a D-Pad in Swype/Samsung keyboards.
Online support? Please.. I can bet you any amount of money that a majority of the "support" is not worth the time or frustration. I can never wrap my head around the people that act like their HTC devices have all of this great support when in fact it's really not very good at all.
Barnacle WiFi tether works great
Battery life is subjective but there is something that you weren't doing on the N1 that you we're doing on the Vibrant because it doesn't make sense for it to be any worse.
Ive had the N1 and to be honest where it failed for me was the reception wasnt that great where i lived, everything else was nice and i do miss my flash (for flashlight reasons) but IMO the vibrant is a lot better in many ways, screen, reception, and being able to play my emulators are 3 reasons, plus i really like the small things that samsung implemented here and there, like the wifi and gps in the notification bar.
The vibrant running 2.1 is just as good as the nexus running 2.2 so what you think is gonna happen when the vibrant gets 2.2? the stupid little issues here and there are things that can be fixed with a minor update,I actually fixed my GPS and slow market issues with a factory reset and its super fast IMO runs faster than the Nexus in many ways.
Honestly its really up to the person. Each person is going to like phones differently. Spec wise though I think the Vibrant has the N1 beat. Larger better screen, better CPU, more storage space, better camera. The N1 has a flash, track ball and 2.2. Of course it has more online support, its been out for 7 months. Give the Vibrant sometime and it will have a lot of support too.
People keep citing reasons for swapping that really aren't reasons at all - they just don't know which programs to use on the vibrant to enable functionality. They are just used to their n1, and seem stuck in a rut.
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I sold my N1 on Ebay and ordered a Vibrant. I love the Vibrant. The touch screen responsiveness is amazing compared to the N1. The screen is much better. But consider that I bought the N1 at release, one of the initial 20,000. I had none of the problems others had with it, but it is 6 mos later so there is bound to be a better phone out there. It is just trading up. I wanted TV out. I could sacrifice a trackball for that. Overall I think the N1 was an amazing and groundbreaking device, but 6 mos later, the Vibrant is the most powerful device on the market.
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I wanted TV out.
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The vibrant has tv out?
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to be honest i never had a nexus my cousin does and i seen it with him for 4 months os i play with it and no problems at all u know... so far with vibrant, laggy roatition, battery not accurate on top, signal bars not accurate, gps down, pop up fully charged alert, facebook sycn always down, thats about it so i was thinking of selling it nad gettin a mint condtion nexus for 375
not many ppl would trade i dont think
i mean i can sell it for $400 and get one u know

[Q] Does the Atrix live up to the Hype?

Ok guys ive been reading mixed comments about the Atrix that its good and that its not. I was in 2 minds whether to get the Atrix or the LG Optimus 2X. Originally I was gonne get which ever I could get my hands on 1st. Both have their pros and cons i.e. camera, ram, locked bootloader, screen quality, internal memory etc
Well I decided to get the LG and this comment made in the o2x forum sealed it
Ive been using my atrix couple weeks an am falling out of love with it fast, after yesterday it ramdomly shut off 2x an today once sofar. The screen is beging to bother me the screendoor washed out look. Allready returned lapdock, that cant even compare to a real laptop in my opion. So im looking hard at the Lg 2x for an upgrade of camera, gyroscope, performance, faster upgrade to gingerbread, real mirroring, 1080p recording an play back, 7.1 sound, totaly unlocked phone. Yes 512mb memory is trade off, but operating system will handly that, an the battery is non issue, I'll have a spare battery or a charging source anyway. Not to mention not paying 20/month to not tether, an having my data speeds throttled down to 1.5mb down an 310kb up lat of 350-800. An Atrix doesnt do LTE
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But now im stiill thinking what to do as Im so impatient and want a dual core phone asap. So I made this poll to see everyones view
Coming from a N1, there's not that much improvement. I'm satisfied, but not amazed by this phone. Still debating if I should return it and wait it out.
My impressions:
-Definitely faster, everything is much snappier, but browsing-wise there's not much of a difference.
-Screen is bright and sharp (as long as you don't put your face within inches of the screen you won't really notice the pentile display. But it's still an annoyance when you notice it)
-Camera is marginally better. Pretty disappointing for a flagship device. Plus the media gallery lags like this is a 2 year old phone when zooming in and out.
-GPS is amazing
-Pretty much Motorblur slows this phone's speed and potential. If this device was stock or able to flash truly custom ROMs, it'd be screaming in speed and blow every competitor out of the water.
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Custom ROMS would make it a whole lot better.
19 voters.. 2 responses.. lol
I think it lives up to the hype.. couple quirks I miss from my captivate but.. besides that the phone is solid.
Now I just got to wait for Tango to support our phones :T
Came from the LG Expo. A much better improvement than the last generation phones. The phone just beats about everything out of the expo. Only thing getting to me is that the expo's fingerprint scanner doubled as a trackpad (would've been nice to have for editing text's)
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Custom ROMS would make it a whole lot better.
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This pretty much summed it up
I think this is a situation that there is not enough tangible usage of a dual core for majority of people. Most of people wont notice any improvements in UI speed. We need evolution of software just like in iOS that despite this same architecture people could understand what the new software is bring them.
It feels a bit like a premature technology and we are all living dreaming of tomorrow while we are beta testing for Motorola/Samsung/HTC.
Just 2 cents.
Believe what you want but I love the Atrix. Had a captivate and it doesn't compare. My phone has never rebooted or lagged- I don't know what others do to theirs but my phone is rock solid.
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I'm lovin mine all around. For people who return it because of locked bootloader, I'd say that you knew that when you bought it if it's a dealbreaker.
The webtop dock alone has made this phone exceed the hype. All thanks to the devs
You guys rock
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i have a nexus one and now and atrix and have had it for about a week and i love it. It works great, no random reboots or anything ... just smooth sailing.
I know i can not customize it like I could my N1 but I think that day will come in time. I'll wait ...
Yes, it lived up to the hype in my opinion.
Came from Nexus One. Love the Atrix. It fast and solidly built. Im not sure why everyone said motorblur slow the phone down. I use ADW launcher and it scream.
The Atrix doesn't live up to the Best of CES 2011 hype. The locked bootloader, 1080p "coming soon" recording, overpriced lapdock, overpriced multimedia dock, and good-but-not-great screen keep it from living up to the incredible hype it garnered when it was announced.
Your poll is worded slightly differently: Was the Atrix worth it?
I just came from an ancient Iphone 3g, so the Atrix is absolutely amazing in pretty much every way compared to it and finally getting to use my upgrade was absolutely worth it!
I originally tried out a Captivate for about a week back when I first came up for an upgrade last november. It kept turning itself off (not sleep, total shutdown so I wouldn't receive calls, txt, email ect.) which was a deal breaker. The useless GPS didn't help it's case either. Screen was gorgeous, speed was decent, build quality was ok, battery life was ok. Anyways, I sent the Captivate back after a week, I couldn't have a phone that didn't take phone calls.
First and foremost I love the speed. This thing is lightning fast and seems to have horsepower to burn under the hood. Second is the battery life, I get home from work most of the time with over 40% battery power remaining which is absolutely astounding, my iphone couldn't make it through a full day without getting some juice at my desk and while the captivate did, it was usually at 10-15%. I'm also using the Atrix more than either of the others because I don't feel like I have to conserve battery power to make it through the day.
After those two big features, there are a bunch of less important things that I like:
Finger print scanner is great, I can unlock the phone without even looking at it. I know this doesn't sound important, but it's surprisingly useful when I'm just trying to pull information off my phone quickly and can have it already unlocked as I'm pulling it out of my pocket.
GPS is the best I've experienced on a phone, and better than some dedicated GPS units I've had the displeasure to work with.
Build quality (contrary to some reports I've read) is quite good imo. The phone itself is very sturdy feeling when held by the sides. The back cover is a bit flimsy, but it is also what convinced me to skip getting a case for the Atrix, if it gets scratched I'll just get a new back.
Gorilla Glass is not glued to LCD. Should keep repair costs down.
HDMI out is great, webtop with working firefox extensions is awesome.
Some good, some bad:
Screen resolution is good (colors not so much). The auto-brightness seems to be set a little low imho. I only notice a pentile effect on particularly small+thin fonts.
Camera is surprisingly good in low-light and indoor conditions. Not especially great overall though, tint seems a little off. May just need to set up a custom photoshop filter to correct it.
Call quality is good in quiet conditions, very clear reception and a detailed microphone. Not so good in noisy or windy conditions, the mic picks up a lot of extraneous noise, people are often asking me what's going on or where I am now based on background noise.
I haven't had much reason to use the front facing camera...frankly with AT&T's network I think video chat is a gimmick more than anything else.
I wonder about the finger print scanner/button longevity.
I wouldn't necessarily say the Atrix is the best phone around, but it was the best phone that fit my requirements (ATT, asap, batt life, fast) and so far I like it a lot.
Running ADW Launcher and really like the Advanced Clock widget.
I took mine back and have the Nexus 1 now; I liked the speed but for the most part, my 2.3.3 phone is about as fast; the main thing slowing these phones down now is the network speeds anyway.
If I'm on a wifi network, they're all pretty much the same speed.
Living up to the hype? Definitely not. There are a lot of small problems with this phone that a lot of people don't like; to me, it feels slightly rushed.
I came from an iPhone 4 and I haven't missed the iPhone experience yet. I started with the HTC Inspire which is a nice phone but the battery is rotten and the volume from the phone was pathetic. The Atrix has been an awesome phone for me. It has pretty good battery life so far and yes there are no truly custom ROMs but Adeo (REDUX) has made the UI lag go away on my end and I know others have said the same thing. I am loving the experience of this phone.
Just know that anytime you get a phone shortly after a better one will come out. It's all user preference and what you want and what you think is important. I'm happy but guy x may not be happy. So use one and if you don't like it don't keep it.
I went from a HTC Fuze directly to the Atrix. I love it. (almost) Everything about it. I have played with the Inspire and a couple other 2.1/2.2 devices (girlfriends captivate) and this thing stomps the crap out of them. The colors are just a little off, but that's probably just me going for an extreme upgrade from the phone I had before.
The *ONLY* gripe I have about it is the locked HSUPA. But with all good things come some bad, I think I'm gonna stick it out with the Atrix. Not only that but Spectral Souls looks amazing on it
Guys, please, help me to make a right decision.
Is it possible to buy AT&T version of Motorola Atrix and use it outside US? Is it simple to unlock it? Or where do you recommend to purchase unlocked phone.
P.$.: does motorola have any plans to upgrade it 2.3/3.1 in the future? As I know it's not the trivial to customize firmware for motorola phones (my old G1 can be customized without any problems).
Thanks a lot.
The phone is great nuff said.... We are all a bit too picky but for what its worth this is really the only phone out right now that can take down the iphone 4. My iphone 4 has just been sitting on my night table since I got the Atrix. Atrix has so much more potential and the Android os is so much more pleasing than iIS. Once the bootloader gets cracked its game over!
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Genixoid said:
Guys, please, help me to make a right decision.
Is it possible to buy AT&T version of Motorola Atrix and use it outside US? Is it simple to unlock it? Or where do you recommend to purchase unlocked phone.
P.$.: does motorola have any plans to upgrade it 2.3/3.1 in the future? As I know it's not the trivial to customize firmware for motorola phones (my old G1 can be customized without any problems).
Thanks a lot.
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Yes, I am using Atrix on my business trips to EU using local sim cards.
Probably, but the timing of updates is another question.
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thinking of buying a streak, would like to ask a few [Q]

well, I would like to know if its, fast (not laggy)
can it run 2.3.3 if rooted?
hows the data speeds, call quality..
have you found yourself wanting a smaller screen (4.3/4.5)
does dell stand behind the phone? customer service!
is the screen nice, bright, vibrant. Can you read a book on it, with out wishing you just had the book! lol how would it stack up against the nook color in this department?
I have an HTC inspire, is it worht the swap at $350 for a new streak?
well, I would like to know if its, fast (not laggy)
Yes, it is fast and I do not think it to be laggy at all
can it run 2.3.3 if rooted?
It has not been release for the Streak as of yet.
hows the data speeds, call quality..
Data seems to be good for me. Call quality is very good.
have you found yourself wanting a smaller screen (4.3/4.5)
I got the device because of the screen and I have been loving it ever since.
does dell stand behind the phone? customer service!
No, not really.
is the screen nice, bright, vibrant. Can you read a book on it, with out wishing you just had the book! lol how would it stack up against the nook color in this department?
Yes, you can read a book, but I think you will have the same issues folks have with the IPAD, it is not so good in the outdoor setting for read, indoor would be just fine.
I have an HTC inspire, is it worht the swap at $350 for a new streak?
I cannot speak to this as I have never had an HTC inspire.
Mine's fast. Love it with Dell's 2.2.2 or Streakdroid 1.9. Comes down to personal taste.
2.3? No. Not yet at least. ;-)
Data/wifi are very good for me. Call quality is better than any of my previous phones. No one complains that they can't hear me. I use a Jawbone Icon most of the time.
Smaller screen? Heck no! I got this thing cause it's huge. I have a hard time imagining people working on smaller screens now. I love having 5" of real estate. Totally worth it.
I've only had one instance with Dell Mobility and they were excellent. The screen went south about 2 months after I got it so I called them. They had a replacement shipped out after a 20 minute phone call.
Dunno about books and the HTC. I use my B&W for reading and have never had an HTC. I hear awesome things about HTC though. Seems the main reason to change devices would be for screen size.
Any one know if dell will make a dell streak V2?
Also do they both have the same CPU 1Ghz? or is the inspire a newer version?
also, I would think the screen would be week, as in easy to break... I'm I wrong?
There is a rumor of another 5" model in the works, it is known as OPUS. There is a timeline about this over at streaksmart, you can find it on the forum if you want to hunt for it. You may want to checkout streaksmart.com anyhow.
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Well, the screen is not a stong point, I have had to replace it but I must say it is holding up well now. You should treat it with respect if you know what I mean.
there are no gingerbread roms for the phone, infact theres barely any roms as we have 1 rom developer. and i feel because of that we dont get the best out of the phone. besides the tether disable in the att rom, theres not any carrier crippling of the phone. the stage launcher and widgets in 2.2.2 are really nice. the screen size is very nice to have, watching movies is a great experience, especially if you turn the brightness up. however its a standard lcd and rather low def for the size so i wouldnt recommend reading a book on it. the data experience has been the best ive ever seen on a phone. it seems the speeds are much higher than on other att phones. call quality is just ok. speakers can be dim or squeelchy. the phone app is crashy and its landscape locked (like the lock screen) so if you change lcd density is all off. the sound quality for some reason is terrible. i wouldnt suggest you plug in headphones and listen to music on it. i think dell considers this thing a failure. they dont advertise it and they keep selling it for less and less like its not worth its own components. apparently they are allergic to money. i bought the phone for its screen size. i wanted something that i wouldnt need a both a tablet and a phone. but as the days move on i find myself wanting both. i think ill end up going for a 4-4.5" phone to replace this and maybe a tablet in the future. i need atleast a slightly large phone if im not going to have a physical keyboard if i want to type. im glad i bought the phone. it was a good first android phone. the hardware is dating and im think im about ready for a new one.
well, I would like to know if its, fast (not laggy)
Doesn't lag much at all on rooted stock 351
can it run 2.3.3 if rooted?
no, at least not yet
hows the data speeds, call quality..
The data speed is good. Call quality is unbelievably good (probably the best of any smart phone i've used)
have you found yourself wanting a smaller screen (4.3/4.5)
no, but 4.5 wouldn't be bad, the reason I bought the phone was the size of the on-screen keyboard (its getting harder to find good physical keyboards on Android phones)
does dell stand behind the phone? customer service!
Yes/no, It all depends on where you buy the phone. If you buy it from them they will try as hard as they can to make you happy. I have the unlocked version straight from the Dell website and I'm on my third streak and both times I called in with a device problem they tried to fix it and when they couldn't they sent me a brand new one no questions asked. I've heard that if you bought it from Best Buy, Dell may not be as helpful.
is the screen nice, bright, vibrant. Can you read a book on it, with out wishing you just had the book! lol how would it stack up against the nook color in this department?
Yes and it does pretty well outside, unfortunately I've never used a nook color outdoors so I wouldn't know how the Streak compares
I have an HTC inspire, is it worth the swap at $350 for a new streak?
The Inspire is a nice phone, but I have no Idea what roms are available for it so I couldn't tell you.
Other Thoughts
I love my Streak and I'm hoping the second version of it will come out as planned. Also the Streak Community here on XDA is great and can help solve any issues you have with The Streak.
What don't you like about the Inspire?
Also the Screen on the Streak can seem fragile but that is because of its large surface area, I recommend an Otter Box (the commuter) It protects the device and keeps pressure off the screen while my streak is in my pocket.
hows the speaker on the streak? I dont talk much on the phone when I do, I use the speaker.. I also want to be able to hear the ringer
I love my inspire truthe be told, but if I can get something close but with w 5" screen, why not?
This really depends on the build. Older builds (pre 31x iirc) are really loud on speakerphone. After, it seems they quieted it down. When you flash 1.9.0 there's an option to enable an audio boost option that fixes it I believe.
is the screen really fragile... thats like the number one thing I keep reading..
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is the screen really fragile... thats like the number one thing I keep reading..
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Spend a few bucks and put it in an Otterbox Defender. I took a fall off my roof that put me in the hospital and I landed on my Streak. Not a scratch on it and it kept on ticking like nothing happened. Use some common sense (like NOT putting it in your back pocket and sitting down on it) and the screen will be fine.
Phone is rocket fast and awesome in every way except for battery life. I have JuiceDefender and Advanced Task Killer on mine and I still am lucky to get 12-hours of battery life...
Streak 7: crap.
Don't know about the 5 but the 7 is a total piece of garbage. The screen has serious viewing angle problems, to the point that using it in portrait mode is very unpleasant. And 800x480 is insufficient on a 7" screen.
Battery life is unacceptably bad: you won't get 48 hours of stand-by on a full battery, and that's in the "aggressive power savings" mode!
It's heavy, and the screen is fragile. Mine had problems that lasted about a day and went away as mysteriously as they arrived, but I won't be surprised if they come back and stay permanently.
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As much as I like the Streak but I am getting a little tired of the unresponsive screen once in a while it freezes up and I can't unlock it,music through the 3.5mm audiojack is pretty low and the camera is another drawback.I don't even wanna call Dell anymore since their replacement devices come with the same issue.
I started to save money to buy something new in the next few months.
Hows the GPS?
Also can the CPU be overclocked to 1.2 or 1.3?
I think the OTTER box would be great
a big battery and a car charger will take care of the battery
Volume+ or DSP will help the volume and
now the last thing that I'm worried about is the GPS and CPU, being gen 1, I would think it lags some times, since my inspire does get a little slow now and then, and the inspire had more RAM.
I'm have a great phone, but would not mind having that 5" screen
I know there is talk of other 5 inch phones but I simply do not see any...
Nothing huh?
Yeah, setcpu can overclock it to 1.2 or so. otterbox defender if you want a beltclip, commuter if you don't.
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I'm thinking of purchasing a Streak as well.
I'm curious, how many of you have had to get a replacement device from Dell? What were the reasons for this? Should I expect the same?
Thanks for the help.
The GPS on the Streak is very good, Not sure why people complain about the battery life as I have no problem with it, also I recommend the Otterbox Commuter. The screen is not as fragile as It's made out to be, also the unresponsiveness that people have is usually fixed by recalibrating the screen after installing a new Rom(I have the streak in my pocket all day and never have the problem). Finally the Streak seems to be a difficult device to consistently manufacture properly, so you may have to get a replacement due to something being defective, but in my opinion it is worth it because it is a great phone.
the only real problem I see now, is the fact that DELL makes the phone... lol I HATE talking to people from india!! If DELL were to just change that, they could be a great company again....
I'll get that 4800mah battery if I keep the phone... I just wish we had more devolpment.... So how much "better is the CPU in the HTC inspire than the streak?" is just just better on battery? I know that it can be OC to 1.8GHZ but since you cant add a big battery, thats just dumb...
Dell's Mobility(Cell phone) Support isn't in India. Also the processor in the Inspire should be more efficient due to its smaller architecture and should handle graphics better as it has a better GPU (the Adreno 205 vs. the 200). As for real world performance differences I have no idea. Personally I've never had an issue with processor power on my Streak, also I've found on mobile devices that it is the amount of free Ram that matters more than processing power.

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