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I have a problem with the SD card reader on my I-Mate Pocket PC. It sees every SD card I put in as locked. I have checked this with several cards of various sizes from 8m to 2g. It will read them all just fine, but says the card is locked when I try to save anything on it, or delete anything from it. All the cards work properly in everything else I use them in, so I know the cards are good. I have also tried several ROM versions and every software fix I could find both here and everywhere else, including the one on I-Mate's web site, so I am pretty sure it is not a software Issue either. This leaves us with only a hardware issue as far as I can tell. Does anyone know of any software or registry hacks to prevent the phone from checking if the card is locked? Is there anyway I can do something with the hardware, maybe either jump or split the connectors going to the lock to fool it into always showing unlocked?
Not going to fix your problem but i had a similar issue a while back.
One of my SD cards had a slightly larger than usual write protect tab, it stuck out slightly too far, and every time i inserted it the tab would get pushed to the write protect place. So i thought i would take the smart arse approach and trim a wee bit off the tab, unfortunately i trimmed too much off and now my PDA won't see it as anything other than write protect. My PC card reader is just fine with it.
Makes me think that your issue may be that the wee switch in your Himalaya has got stuck. Wouldn't know where to start looking myself but it may give you a starting place.
Yesterday it got a little flakey. I had to reboot a couple times when the marketplace stopped working. Now I am stuck at a samsung logo any time I turn it on. Ive done the hard reset...
I had it happen to me too, and all I did was insert a 32GB Class 2 Sandisk card two days before it bricked.
Were you playing around in the Diagnostic Menu?
Someone posted a way on how to do a complete hard reset (not the one in the manual). But i think you may have to access the WP7 software.
ryotgz said:
Someone posted a way on how to do a complete hard reset (not the one in the manual). But i think you may have to access the WP7 software.
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Yea, its in the phone, but you need access to the software as you said.
happened to me on the mytouch with CM6, i simply accessed the bootloader and put on a new ROM, im not sure if this is much help in your case but if you can access the bootloader screen you should be fine...
Do you have a sd card
Do you have a seperate sd card if so remove it then do a hard reset.
Some things I have discovered about the DVP:
If you turn the dvp off and pull the microSd card out and start the phone back up then:
1. The phone will still work 100% without the microSD card. It just won’t remember anything after a reboot. This includes settings, typed words, etc.
2. If you take the microsd card out and do a hard reset, the phone won’t go through the normal setup. It will boot straight into WP7 without any tmobile customization. You basically get the Vanila version of WP7- complete stock.
3. Somehow after removing the microsd card, I was able to get web2go to work for a quick second loading up desktop google.com- after that, no other pages worked. I was forced to the page telling me to upgrade. No go on Web2Go here.
Removal of the sd card isn’t just some regular sticker you can put back on after you’re done. It’s some kind of painted sticker that shreds – think of it like a broken Christmas ornament where the paint is stripped. You bend the sticker, the stickers’ paint cracks.
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Edit: after poking around a little more ive discovered:
1. DVP does not need a microSd card at all to be 100% functional. It operates without one completely fine in terms of performance, speed, etc.
This was how I tested it:
a. Put mSD card in.
b. Hard rest (factory reset under settings) the device
c. When the device restarts and goes to the blackout/dead screen, remove the battery
d. Pull the mSD card out.
e. Put battery back in
f. Push and hold power button to turn on and allow device to complete the hard reset.
It will begin with the full setup WP7 installation. All tmobile apps will be restored. Everything is the same except that no microSD card will be present; I have found this to not be hindering anything as far as my testing goes. Everything works including data, wifi and calls. Im pretty sure music storage would be a problem, but I didn’t test downloading more than 2 songs in market.
The microSD card is just storage. The device works 100% without it. Yes eventually you’ll be hindered by the amount of stuff you can put on the dvp, still that is a storage problem.
I have no knowledge how the dvp integrates with the sd card. But I guess it must be important since we aren’t to remove it.
BTW, after removal of the mSD card from the DVP, my computer can’t seem to recognize it. I can’t even format it since it can’t be detected. It’s so odd. I’ll try to dig more to see if I can make the mSD card useful in some other way.
Let me know what you guys think.
More Interesting things:
Without the microSd card, the device reports
405.03MB total
336.96MB Available
if my math is correct,
68.28MB is used to install the entire WP7 OS + some tmobile apps.
How cool!
What i dont understand is if there is internal storage (its obviously not RAM since it can now remember things after a reboot), why doesnt dell use it to store the OS and use microSD card to store apps, music, etc.??
That's awesome and gives us more hope for further digging. Were you able to use the device as storage device with the reg tweaks and see the folders? If so, how much capacity does Windows drive property show?
to get that sd card to show up on computer just format it using a dumb nokia phone
lemonspeakers said:
More Interesting things:
Without the microSd card, the device reports
405.03MB total
336.96MB Available
if my math is correct,
68.28MB is used to install the entire WP7 OS + some tmobile apps.
How cool!
What i dont understand is if there is internal storage (its obviously not RAM since it can now remember things after a reboot), why doesnt dell use it to store the OS and use microSD card to store apps, music, etc.??
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The OS is probably stored in ROM. Interestingly, the DVP is listed by phonearena.com as having 1GM of ROM, which is more than almost all other WP7 devices currently released. Of course, you have to take those specs with a grain of salt since phonearena.com also lists RAM as 512MB.
@notebookgrail,
you're gonna have to link me to the registry tweaks. id love to check it out!
ft55555 said:
The OS is probably stored in ROM. Interestingly, the DVP is listed by phonearena.com as having 1GM of ROM, which is more than almost all other WP7 devices currently released. Of course, you have to take those specs with a grain of salt since phonearena.com also lists RAM as 512MB.
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It is early in the life of this OS, so EVERYTHING needs salt. The DVP may indeed have 512MB of RAM; this hasn't been conclusively disproven.
lemonspeakers said:
@notebookgrail,
you're gonna have to link me to the registry tweaks. id love to check it out!
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http://blogs.technet.com/b/juanand/...ying-with-windows-phone-7-as-usb-storage.aspx
we need to find out how to use hardware buttons to do hard reset; if you are unlucky like me, when you replaced the sdcard and it went bad, there is no way for you to pop another card in and do hard reset on that card
htc and samsung phones all have a bootloader hard reset menu accessible during boot via combination of key presses, hopefully venue pro does have one
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
bbowman said:
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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doesnt work. it will tell you to plug ur phone into usb + computer. The only way to exit that screen is to remove battery.
bbowman said:
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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would you try it yourself before making such suggestion? i did every possible key combination with the volume and camera keys, all come up empty... and i really wish i dont need to do so for the qwerty keyboard
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would you try it yourself before making such suggestion? i did every possible key combination with the volume and camera keys, all come up empty... and i really wish i dont need to do so for the qwerty keyboard
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when I do that button combo on my DVP I see a "plug the phone into your PC" graphic. when I do so, Zune pops up and give me an error message (related to another issue) that it is unable to restore my phone. It looks like somehow Zune has an important role in performing the hardware master reset.
You don't see anything like this?
bbowman said:
when I do that button combo on my DVP I see a "plug the phone into your PC" graphic. when I do so, Zune pops up and give me an error message (related to another issue) that it is unable to restore my phone. It looks like somehow Zune has an important role in performing the hardware master reset.
You don't see anything like this?
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thats not the hard reset menu. htc has the bootloader option to perform factory reset in the case of the OS would not bootup, and also the option to connect the device to pc to perform restore (venue pro has this)
but since zune does not allow backup, the restore option is useless
If you set up your phone with a windows live account it gives you the option to remotely send a command erase your phone data and reset to factory defaults.
You need a windows live account and go to the windows live home screen.
mouseover "windows live" in the top left, then>devices>find this phone>erase
sureloch said:
You need a windows live account and go to the windows live home screen.
mouseover "windows live" in the top left, then>devices>find this phone>erase
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again, you need the phone to be functional to use this feature
im talking about device hangs at boot or boot looping, that requires hard reset without the OS being functional
theclueless said:
again, you need the phone to be functional to use this feature
im talking about device hangs at boot or boot looping, that requires hard reset without the OS being functional
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Ok, I didn't realize you had that serious of a problem. For some reason I thought you were trying to initialize a new sd card. The reset key combo will come out eventually.
sureloch said:
Ok, I didn't realize you had that serious of a problem. For some reason I thought you were trying to initialize a new sd card. The reset key combo will come out eventually.
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i was able to initiate the 32gb card using the setting->about->reset method when i first got the phone.
after a couple random crashes, the last time it was functional i was browsing the web, then the phone seemed hanged, then kicked me right back to the metro screen, but the phone no longer recognize the sdcard on the about screen; after reboot the phone got stuck on dell screen and would not startup, so i switch back to the original 8gb card, did not work either (boot-loop)
i pulled the card out, and it booted fine without any addition apps, and i try to initiate a reset, pulled battery, insert card, exact same symptoms with respected sdcards
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i was able to initiate the 32gb card using the setting->about->reset method when i first got the phone.
after a couple random crashes, the last time it was functional i was browsing the web, then the phone seemed hanged, then kicked me right back to the metro screen, but the phone no longer recognize the sdcard on the about screen; after reboot the phone got stuck on dell screen and would not startup, so i switch back to the original 8gb card, did not work either (boot-loop)
i pulled the card out, and it booted fine without any addition apps, and i try to initiate a reset, pulled battery, insert card, exact same symptoms with respected sdcards
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I was under the impression that on e a card was initiated it could not be used again in another device...though I did read something about formatting on a Symbian device. When you pull the card that is crashing did you try to restart the device with no card? Try it. After that shut down and put the original card back in
Ive tried several WP7 NAND builds in this forum but everyone seem to give the same issue far as it randomly freezing and rebooting especially when the screen is off, Is anyone else having this issue and if so is there a solution?
Phone: TmoUS Leo
Radio: 2.15.50.40
Build: Frantic HD WP7
Yes ive had this same problem...would also like to know if there are any solutions...thanks
Try another SD card. Go for a SanDisk one as they are more compatible. WP7 doesn't accept many SD cards and you both have the typical symptoms of an incompatible card
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Ive tried several WP7 NAND builds in this forum but everyone seem to give the same issue far as it randomly freezing and rebooting especially when the screen is off, Is anyone else having this issue and if so is there a solution?
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Yes, and yes.
Random reboots are most likely caused by your MicroSD-card (WP7 will not work well with some cards). The only solution: try a different card.
There's a thread where people report which cards worked for them here.
ignore that thread
There is absoluetly no way of know what card will work.
statistically you have a better chance with a sandisk class 2 or 4 BUT that is not always the case, you may have a generic home brand class 10 that works but more likely you'll have better luck with those class 2 and 4 cards
No one is really sure why WP7 is having issues, the best idea so far is that its random read/write speeds that are the key, some class 10 cards have massive sequential write speeds but slower random reads which is where WP7 comes unstuck
Also, just because some one has a sandisk 8GB class 6 that works fine doesnt mean you will have the same luck with the exact same model because different cards use different components, even within the same make and model.
For example i have two 4GB sandisk class 6 cards, purchased on the same day at the same shop, both cards are model identical, one works fine the other has issues such as restarting, wifi not working and lagging
and to throw another spanner in the works i have a card that works perfectly, up until i fill the card to a certain point, then it starts all this restart business, if i dump a few hundred MB of music on the card taking it past that point it works fine . The card was been tested on the PC and i cant see anything wrong with it.
So, that leave me to think that for some reason when WP7 was trying to access that portion of the card for SYSTEM usage it was perhaps too slow to use or had some other issue, i can play music from that area however.
I just installed WP7 on my HD2 earlier today, was running fine for about.. 3-4 hours, I guess I was on it a good bit, not really letting it go to sleep for an extended period of time, but after I stopped messing with it, I noticed it rebooted itself, then it got froze on the lock screen, until it rebooted itself randomly again,, and then it did a complete wipe of my data on another random reboot?
Is this due to the SD card?
And can I just remove the SD card to fix this until theres some guarenteed cards that work with WP7?
or will it not boot without the SD card in?
Thanks alot.
it will work without SD but laggy and you will only have about 150MB of space.
good luck waiting for a card, its supposed to be unremovable so i doubt you will see over the counter products, im afraid its take a guess or buy an HD7
oop! yeah probably your SD
It is your sd card, sorry. Try a new one.
so nothing to do with how you format the sd card?
The guidelines
Welcome to the club!! u will soon get an error message umm in few weeks! then u will search.. u will undo hspl and all the things(sd card method even u will buy a new sd).. atlast it will kepp freezing.. the search and search... same omitted answers!! one fine day reboots then says!!!
ARM11 FATAL ERROR
FLASH_OS_WM.C LINE 582
or some other line ur search and search will end with 2 result and redfly..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11515140
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8838597
after this what i did
I LOGGED ON TO WWW.HTC.COM
SEARCHED FOR HTC AUTHORIZED SHOP IN MY TOWN
PLACED IT FOR REPAIR
Good thing :THEY JUST TOOK MY PHONE..U WILL GET BATTERY,SIM AND SD BACK!!
STILL WAITING TO GET IT REPAIRED!!!!
The best thing: u can use the phone without repairing.. but if ur chatting with ur GF ON FONE more than 3 min or recording a video it jusT reboots and hangs!!never boots back still its cold.. solution: buy an Air conditioning unit remove the battery cool it.. it will boot!!
the WP7 doesn't format the SD in options menu.
I tried this soluction and the phone appears more stable:
1- go in the
(caution----your data will be eraser)
settings -> about -> reset your phone
2- then the phone reset and after the MALGRD screeen push VOL UP and VOL DOWN
to appears the screen when you press the VOLUP to eraser all data and recovery the phone in factory status.
3- after this the phone start with the SD clear.
my phone don't freeze more after this steps.
Hello all i have a really strange problem. My Trophy is 1 month old, today it restarted itself alone and gave me the message that my SD Card is not working right and i need to replace it. I hate HTC for not making the slot accesable.
Now it's very complex to use the warranty,because i am from Bulgaria, the phone is bought from Germany, from ebay and on and on ...
Is there a way to test if the problem is the actual SD Card. If i am sure of that i will replace the lame thing on my own. Do someone from you have / had a similar problem ?
Thanks all.
Well, you could remove the SD Card from the phone (as described on the forums) and format the SD Card with a Nokia Symbian phone (E71 or else) and then test the card in a cardreader in your pc.
To be honest; I would just replace the SD Card. It isn't so much work and the cards are relatively cheap. The only other option seems to be trying to claim your warranty - but that might be difficult as you mentioned.
If you are tech savy and confindent, just open it up and drop a new 32 GB card in there yourself. We got plenty of forums posts around here, with how to open it up or even what types of cards to purchase.
If not, even though it may be a pain with the warranty based on what you told us, just send it over to HTC.
I am confident and i know i can do it. It's not a problem to open an replace. I am a little bit concern about the actual problem. If , and it's not something impossible , the card is just dead, this will be good. It's a common thing SD cards to fail. But if i void the warranty and the actual problem is in the mainboard itself, this will be a problem.
Probably only HTC has the ability to run diagnostics and test out if its the SD card or something else... but you will only know once you open it up.
I feel for your decision mate, g'luck.
Have you tried performing a hard Reset?
(Hold both volume buttons and switch the phone on)
I sure did. The first time it helped for about 20 mins. Than the card was gone again. The bootloader is reporting it as a SanDisk 61mb class 0 at the moment.
So i will open the phone, the warranty thing is not going to happen. Way to complicated, sadly.
One thing to ask. Because in the card replacing thread in the forum, after you put the the new card you must hard reset from the phone settings - My phone is hard reseted at the moment but it wont boot without a proper card. So i cannot pass the Error message. Do you thing that this is not going to be a problem, as the phone needs to be set right after that screen? I thing a the new card wont be a problem if it's properly detected ?