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[Q] HELP! My Touch 3G Help! Gmail Setup NO DATA

I downgraded my mytouch 3g to 1.5 firmware to root it and i thought that i could enable the adb on the my touch with the onscreen keyboard you can bring it up by pressing menu on the setup screen but no luck at all so im stuck here on the setup screen and i dont have a data plan so what can i do i just did my g1 thru adb shell and i activated with wifi but its not working on the mytouch 3g so please help me out please..........and no i dont have a friend with a sim.............no i dont want to pay for a 1 day use of data for tmobile plus they suspended the account for now and i cant do that anyways........but the weird thing is when i start command prompt and goto the tools folder i can type in fastboot devices and the mytouch shows up but when i try to flash like fastboot flash recovery cm-recovery-1.4.img it starts but it shows this (Hopefully the image loaded lol) but yeah i explained in the pic of what im talking about as well i dont kno what that means and how im supposed to fix it........so hopefully u can help me out is there anyway to enable adb on the mytouch thru fastboot so it can enable it so i can use adb shell and it would actually show up when i type in adb devices because i kno its working because fastboot works???? all the help you can give is aprreciated....

Seriously 23 views and not one piece of info????????????? are you serious......I NEED HELP...........

That means you are using perfected SPL. Just because fastboot devices returns the serial, it doesn't mean you can flash images using adb.
You will need to have engineering SPL to be able to flash images (recovery, radio, etc) through ADB.
No one probably replied because if you had searched for fastboot Remote: Not Allowed in google, you would have found the answer already.

nickmcnamara said:
Seriously 23 views and not one piece of info????????????? are you serious......I NEED HELP...........
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If you needed help so bad you should have posted it in the correct thread.
Moved to General.
Guess what DEVELOPMENT means? Seriously, take a look in the thread at most of the other posts. I take a look and I see "SPL Collection", "Radio Switcher", "Sapphire Hacking", "Rom Bible", and then "HELP! Gmail Setup NO DATA"
One of these things are not like the others.
I'm moving it to the appropriate thread but next time I'll close it without warning.

Binary100100 said:
If you needed help so bad you should have posted it in the correct thread.
Moved to General.
Guess what DEVELOPMENT means? Seriously, take a look in the thread at most of the other posts. I take a look and I see "SPL Collection", "Radio Switcher", "Sapphire Hacking", "Rom Bible", and then "HELP! Gmail Setup NO DATA"
One of these things are not like the others.
I'm moving it to the appropriate thread but next time I'll close it without warning.
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Ok thank you Binary......... i thought since i was ROOTING my phone which i belive hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????yeah im right...................DEVELOPING my MyTouch that id post it in there not in General where it has nothing to do with anything i was asking about so lets make a Questions Thread so u wont have to search everywhere for people posting in wrong places and it would make more sense in that than a GENERAL Thread where poepl e just talk about random stuff...........

kamp said:
That means you are using perfected SPL. Just because fastboot devices returns the serial, it doesn't mean you can flash images using adb.
You will need to have engineering SPL to be able to flash images (recovery, radio, etc) through ADB.
No one probably replied because if you had searched for fastboot Remote: Not Allowed in google, you would have found the answer already.
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thanks i didnt think about that i just thought it was being a douche like always..........

nickmcnamara said:
Ok thank you Binary......... i thought since i was ROOTING my phone which i belive hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????yeah im right...................DEVELOPING my MyTouch that id post it in there not in General where it has nothing to do with anything i was asking about so lets make a Questions Thread so u wont have to search everywhere for people posting in wrong places and it would make more sense in that than a GENERAL Thread where poepl e just talk about random stuff...........
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Your not DEVELOPING anything by rooting your myTouch, your merely modifying something that already exists within the phone.
When it comes to anything dealing with technology, developing something means that you are either creating something completely new, or you are taking a process/application/media medium that already exists and improving it. In lame man's terms, your either creating an all new application/ROM/way of rooting (in our case) or you are taking a currently created ROM and improving on it in order for it to run properly on different devices (such as porting a ROM created to run on the Droid X so that it will work on the myTouch 3G). This could also include creating new kernal's for devices to be able to be properly overclocked, be compatible with newer ROM versions, etc.
But, I do understand where you come from. Sometimes it is just human nature for a person to become defensive in the presence of ignorance. A word of advice though, being disrespectful towards a forum admin is not the way to go about getting help.
Would also like to add that if you look under the General Discussion header you'll see that it says "Discussion about the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, HTC Magic (general Q&A, tips & tricks)".

DonJuan692006 said:
Your not DEVELOPING anything by rooting your myTouch, your merely modifying something that already exists within the phone.
When it comes to anything dealing with technology, developing something means that you are either creating something completely new, or you are taking a process/application/media medium that already exists and improving it. In lame man's terms, your either creating an all new application/ROM/way of rooting (in our case) or you are taking a currently created ROM and improving on it in order for it to run properly on different devices (such as porting a ROM created to run on the Droid X so that it will work on the myTouch 3G). This could also include creating new kernal's for devices to be able to be properly overclocked, be compatible with newer ROM versions, etc.
But, I do understand where you come from. Sometimes it is just human nature for a person to become defensive in the presence of ignorance. A word of advice though, being disrespectful towards a forum admin is not the way to go about getting help.
Would also like to add that if you look under the General Discussion header you'll see that it says "Discussion about the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, HTC Magic (general Q&A, tips & tricks)".
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and i would like to apologize for that to u binary......I was just upset about somethings and im the type of person that has the money to do whatever with and i could easily go and pay someone to do all this but i dont......ive been doing this for years i started with psps to xbox 360s then went to a HTC XV6700 then to a HTC Dream/G1 then im stuck on this MyTouch 3G and when i have trouble and people Bash me just because i need help i get defensive because i kno what im doin and when i run into a problem everybody acts like im stupid and im a "noob" or something but idk y people do it because everybody is a "noob" at one point in life.......maybe somebody should put all their energy that they do when they bash somebody into helping them out......how you would like it when u (the basher) had a problem and everybody including the mod admin or creator of the forum or site or whatever made fun of u????????? thats my point but i apologize for bein like that....so maybe we all can get past this and help each other.......

I wasn't necessarily bashing you, nor was Binary. I'm a mod myself for a gaming clan that I'm a part of and I just understand where Binary is coming from. Think about the fact that you have thousands of people trolling these forums and when 70% of them don't post things in the proper place or post a question that was answered two threads from the top, it gets very redundant having to "help" them out by pointing them in the right direction all the time. If people would merely take that extra second to search or read an extra sentence it would make everything so much easier. Yes, Binarys response may have sounded slightly sarcastic, but when I've seen the guy have to move 20-30 threads and tell people to search for their problem because the answer was in a thread two days old, then I can't blame him. People really need to try and look at both sides of a situation before flaming. Its understandable that your frustrated, but again, flaming at anyone on these, or any other, forums is not the way to generate positive responses.
Now, as for you problem, how exactly did you go about downgrading to 1.5? Do you have the MT3G with the 3.5mm jack? You not going to be able to run anything through ADB until you can actually get into the phone and enable USB debugging (unless you can get into recovery), in the meantime, your going to have to run everything through fastboot. Next, that recovery image your using is kind of old, you might want to try Amon Ra 1.7.0. Along with your answers, post your current fastboot information (turn the phone off and power on by holding back+power). When the screen with three skateboarding Androids comes up, write that information into here.

nickmcnamara said:
...lets make a Questions Thread so u wont have to search everywhere for people posting in wrong places and it would make more sense in that than a GENERAL Thread where poepl e just talk about random stuff...........
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That's why it says:
myTouch 3G, Magic General
Discussion about the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, HTC Magic (general Q&A, tips & tricks)
nickmcnamara said:
and i would like to apologize for that to u binary......I was just upset about somethings and im the type of person that has the money to do whatever with and i could easily go and pay someone to do all this but i dont......ive been doing this for years i started with psps to xbox 360s then went to a HTC XV6700 then to a HTC Dream/G1 then im stuck on this MyTouch 3G and when i have trouble and people Bash me just because i need help i get defensive because i kno what im doin and when i run into a problem everybody acts like im stupid and im a "noob" or something but idk y people do it because everybody is a "noob" at one point in life.......maybe somebody should put all their energy that they do when they bash somebody into helping them out......how you would like it when u (the basher) had a problem and everybody including the mod admin or creator of the forum or site or whatever made fun of u????????? thats my point but i apologize for bein like that....so maybe we all can get past this and help each other.......
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No I understand completely. I agree with you 100%. I was a noob for years in fact. Believe it or not even I still have issues. I just posted one in the G1 Q&A a few days ago and it still hasn't had any responses so I know how you feel. Yet I also know what it takes to get flammed and how to avoid it. No one here is flamming or bashing you and I apologize if it seemed that way but sometimes you need to make light of a heavy situation if you get my meaning. You're thread will likely get hundreds of views... and not just from members. And I move around an average of 20 to 50 posts per day! So yeah... I move more posts than you even read! So while you're trying to imagine that just think about how many I would have to move, edit, delete and close if I didn't come off strict towards everyone. I'm not a jerk like I come off to be... I'm actually very lenient but I can't ban someone today for breaking a rule today and give someone a second chance tomorrow for breaking the same rule. In the same way I can't just move a thread without an explaination either because it causes confusion. So how am I supposed to appear strict, enforce and be fair all at once? Ask your parents! LOL! Just think of me as this forums father. I'll ground you for breaking a rule or I'll help you fix your bike if I can. See my meaning? By the way... forum wise... I'm a single father (only moderator) of three children named Wing (the Oldest and most mature... little maintenance, Tilt... middle child, and my youngest Sapphire. Sapphire is a handful because she is growing so fast and she (as in the members) doesn't quite knows what she's doing yet.
Sorry but that's the best metaphor that I can come up with for now.

Binary100100 said:
That's why it says:
myTouch 3G, Magic General
Discussion about the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, HTC Magic (general Q&A, tips & tricks)
No I understand completely. I agree with you 100%. I was a noob for years in fact. Believe it or not even I still have issues. I just posted one in the G1 Q&A a few days ago and it still hasn't had any responses so I know how you feel. Yet I also know what it takes to get flammed and how to avoid it. No one here is flamming or bashing you and I apologize if it seemed that way but sometimes you need to make light of a heavy situation if you get my meaning. You're thread will likely get hundreds of views... and not just from members. And I move around an average of 20 to 50 posts per day! So yeah... I move more posts than you even read! So while you're trying to imagine that just think about how many I would have to move, edit, delete and close if I didn't come off strict towards everyone. I'm not a jerk like I come off to be... I'm actually very lenient but I can't ban someone today for breaking a rule today and give someone a second chance tomorrow for breaking the same rule. In the same way I can't just move a thread without an explaination either because it causes confusion. So how am I supposed to appear strict, enforce and be fair all at once? Ask your parents! LOL! Just think of me as this forums father. I'll ground you for breaking a rule or I'll help you fix your bike if I can. See my meaning? By the way... forum wise... I'm a single father (only moderator) of three children named Wing (the Oldest and most mature... little maintenance, Tilt... middle child, and my youngest Sapphire. Sapphire is a handful because she is growing so fast and she (as in the members) doesn't quite knows what she's doing yet.
Sorry but that's the best metaphor that I can come up with for now.
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lol yeah i got u now man lol and i guess i solved my problem as well we have a flexpay and we didnt pay the bill so they suspended the account but they said we can still put flexpay minutes on it and use it that way well we are goin to ge a card today and hopefully that brins the service back so we can use the data if so i wont have anymore problems because once i get thru this gmail activation and i can put the recovery on the phone there is no need for the data really just wifi because i can use CyanogenMod-6 on there and i can either skip or touch the four corners on the startup screen and im in lol but yeah i guess this is it for now so ill let u guys kno how it went

How to install Android (froyo) on HD2 Leo

go to everythinghd2.blogspot.com it has a guide to installing android on your hd2 leo

so do the stickies on these boards.

Another non searcher/reader to add to the masses, sigh........

This gets at me too, but lets not flame.
and let this thread die its death now

It's a nice straight and to the point guide. The guides here are a bit complex and cover a lot of issues that may not apply to everyone.
OP, I think you need to include the possibility of flashing a new phone ROM besides just the radio. Froyo had some glitches when using a stock tmous rom, I had to flash to chuckyrom for instance. You should mention this, because there is a 90% certainty users will need to use one of the available roms out there.
Other than that, a think his guide has merit. The guides on here are a bit daunting to look at, especially with all the bold capitalized letters with silly character symbols and different fonts trying to get your attention, it's almost more distracting than just using plain text. But thats another story.
I think there needs to be more simplistic guides like this that let users try a predefined series of steps first for quick and easy installation, then if that doesnt work you can go through all the work of learning what you're doing and getting in-depth in the forums.

I searched this site for guides and that when I was looking for a way to get android on my hd2, but i found i'd be jumping from site to site trying to figure out how to do steps as they all assume you have experience with the hd2, so i thought i'd try making a simple step by step guide with a little more detail

If you can't figure out how to put android on this phone using XDA, then you shouldn't be using android on your handset.
That said, if you are going to use information from xda developers I hope you give proper credit.

Just wanted to let OP know that I just used his guide today after a buddy of mine bought an HD2 (after seeing me run android on my own hehe). I had kinda forgotten exactly the steps and weblinks with proper builds to get er done, and while Im sure I would have figured it out again quickly, having it all in one tight little place with simple to read & to the point instructions helped a lot.
Thanks again op!

I was going to rant but I decided not to. Instead I would like to say that I hope proper credit is given where credit is due.
Xda is home to the android to hd2 port!!!!!

hazard99 said:
I was going to rant but I decided not to. Instead I would like to say that I hope proper credit is given where credit is due.
Xda is home to the android to hd2 port!!!!!
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Hear Hear!!

Great But the Guy is Right!
Simple and step by step to the point!(thats how instructions to do something should be written, now I'm no expert but Half the time I cant even find the download links or they don't work. But basically Its a problem of...(fill in the blank), laziness perhaps lack of caring and or attention to details?? in my opinion. It may take a couple more sentences to get the exact point across but I personally think most every tutorial should be written as if for a complete noob. Because I want everyone who possibly can do actually be able to do it just makes sense from a marketing point of view I mean anyone can get into this sight so enough said. But I must admit XDA is always my first choice and usually answers my queries the best!

[Pet Peeve] ADB? What's that? Oops I bricked my Xoom, HALP!

If you don't have the first clue what ADB is or the intellectual curiosity it takes to learn about it you should not root your Xoom and definately should not try to put custom ROMS on it.
This has been a public service announcement.

Have to learn somehow.

If you dont know what adb is, this helps me out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701
After you read it and you still havnt a clue what it is stop hacking or read it again and again.

Yes, it seems like there is a new "did I brick?" question each and every day.
Read first, read again, and make sure that you fully undestand the process first. It certainly saves time and frustration later. I am certainly no pro, but I was able to successfully unlock, root, install CWM, upgrade to 3.1, install all of BRD's kernels (now on 1.4.4), and set-up USB tether by reading the excellent information here on XDA.

I bet if more people made one click root methods this wouldn't be a problem...
Sent from my Xoom

bwcorvus said:
I bet if more people made one click root methods this wouldn't be a problem...
Sent from my Xoom
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It appears that a fair number of people tried real hard to brick their WiFi Xoom using the 3g section of one-click root.

Well, it took me to completely stuff my Xoom, to get how adb works. Yay!
Is there a way to flash official Moto images if my PC won't recognise my Xoom via the usb cable? I can get into CWR, and even reboot via adb, and that's it.
?

To be honest "you have to learn somehow" isn't a good defense, because you can do your research before actually trying and you'll probably avoid a lot of the problems that we see here.
It's not like the only choices are "do it blind"/"don't do it at all".

Some people learn the hard way, I'm a glowing example. Just make sure you read until you get really confused, grab a coffee, and read until it makes sense. If you don't understand what you are trying to do, but you want to give it a go, make sure your your prepared to have the worst happen.
BTW. I finally figured how to restore my system to factory! YAY!!!
Now the fun part of trying it all again....

Learning is great, however blindly trying something that you do not understand can be disastrous. Root, wiping, flashing, etc are all tasks that modify or rework the basic functions of a device. The devs who find these ways to help us do this are simply amazing, but it is NOT for everyone. Too often we see "Help!!!!, or What now???" because people simply see a thread and jump into rooting, and flashing without knowing what they are doing.
I am not an ADB expert, but I do believe that if you take your time and follow the posted instructions to the T, you will be fine. Again, people often report back, myself included that something doesn't work right or it is not doing what it should. After looking back I noticed that I skipped a step or did something out of order because I "thought I knew what I was doing".
I do caution people who are new to the XDA forums and new to Android. I would lurk for a but, gather some knowledge, then try a few things. If you have some issues, PM a member who you see has some good skills or knowledge in the area. This is a forum to help each other and too often it turns into a flame session.
Again, I am no expert I just try to offer some helpful advice.

dubie76 said:
Learning is great, however blindly trying something that you do not understand can be disastrous. Root, wiping, flashing, etc are all tasks that modify or rework the basic functions of a device. The devs who find these ways to help us do this are simply amazing, but it is NOT for everyone. Too often we see "Help!!!!, or What now???" because people simply see a thread and jump into rooting, and flashing without knowing what they are doing.
I am not an ADB expert, but I do believe that if you take your time and follow the posted instructions to the T, you will be fine. Again, people often report back, myself included that something doesn't work right or it is not doing what it should. After looking back I noticed that I skipped a step or did something out of order because I "thought I knew what I was doing".
I do caution people who are new to the XDA forums and new to Android. I would lurk for a but, gather some knowledge, then try a few things. If you have some issues, PM a member who you see has some good skills or knowledge in the area. This is a forum to help each other and too often it turns into a flame session.
Again, I am no expert I just try to offer some helpful advice.
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Well said, don't forget irc zoom channel.
Sent from my Xoom

Thanks for "getting" the spirit of my post. I wasn't trying to be mean at all just saying... there's so many "help me i screwed up my xoom" posts and what concerns me is that too often the advice given around here is "just go root and and load a custom rom". Well that sounds real attractive until you realize that you have no idea what's going on and your Xoom won't turn on. Then your heart sinks and you don't have many places to turn to, fortunately there is this forum but I just hope that people will take more time in the future to understand what it is that they are getting into or at the very least be absolutely willing to set fire to six to eight hundred bucks

there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.

gnackattack said:
To be honest "you have to learn somehow" isn't a good defense, because you can do your research before actually trying and you'll probably avoid a lot of the problems that we see here.
It's not like the only choices are "do it blind"/"don't do it at all".
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dubie76 said:
Learning is great, however blindly trying something that you do not understand can be disastrous. Root, wiping, flashing, etc are all tasks that modify or rework the basic functions of a device. The devs who find these ways to help us do this are simply amazing, but it is NOT for everyone. Too often we see "Help!!!!, or What now???" because people simply see a thread and jump into rooting, and flashing without knowing what they are doing.
I am not an ADB expert, but I do believe that if you take your time and follow the posted instructions to the T, you will be fine. Again, people often report back, myself included that something doesn't work right or it is not doing what it should. After looking back I noticed that I skipped a step or did something out of order because I "thought I knew what I was doing".
I do caution people who are new to the XDA forums and new to Android. I would lurk for a but, gather some knowledge, then try a few things. If you have some issues, PM a member who you see has some good skills or knowledge in the area. This is a forum to help each other and too often it turns into a flame session.
Again, I am no expert I just try to offer some helpful advice.
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It wasn't really a defense just a "it's what happens" type of thing. Yes people can be smart and read up. But the reality is that most people won't (rather it be because of stubborness or lack of time). Something happens, then you have the "ok i gotta fix this, let me look up..." or "oh noes I brokes it. I'm going to join a forum to whine about it to the people so they can help me. I mean it's their job right?".
Thing is that rooting is most misunderstood to be the equivalent to jailbreaking. Just as jailbreaking is most misunderstood as only being useful for free games and apps. Some people just never want to look into what these type of things really are, because they don't care unless it's the means of getting something for free.

bigrushdog said:
there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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Sounds like some money to be made here

bigrushdog said:
there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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I'm sure there's at least one taker out there. Its likely the guy who started the 'Motorola refused to fix xoom' thread. At http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107488

bigrushdog said:
there is no such thing as a bricked xoom. Ill prove it. Send me your bricked xoom along with a $100 PayPal unbricking fee. Ill send you back a restored factory state xoom. If Its truly bricked Ill send the xoom back to you and give you back $120 for the trouble. Any takers, contact me.
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So how would you fix the partitioning of a xoom through cwm? That seems to be the most common "i bricked my xoom" thread.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I feel that the best way to go about things is to read all you can about ADB, how the Xoom works and the specific root method or kernel you want to use. Then, if something goes wrong, search, search then search some more to try and find someone who had a similar problem as yours and try to learn what went wrong and how...then solve your own problem. If you are REALLY stuck, PM a user who seems to know what they are doing and appears to be patient, or post a question that includes all the details and ask politely for help. Take the knowledge you are given, add it to your own, then try to help other people in the same pickle.
If you look up the word EDUCATION in Websters, odds are the picture will look something like the paragraph above.
Personally I am not cheesed off too badly by the people who do things without sufficient knowledge. The ones that drive ME nuts are the ones who do that, then come into the forum and demand that someone hold their hand and personally walk them out of hell step by step...or better, blame the hardware/software and then angrily return it to the store, pretending that it just suddenly died.

rschenck said:
Personally I am not cheesed off too badly by the people who do things without sufficient knowledge. The ones that drive ME nuts are the ones who do that, then come into the forum and demand that someone hold their hand and personally walk them out of hell step by step...or better, blame the hardware/software and then angrily return it to the store, pretending that it just suddenly died.
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Exactly what I was trying to say. And I know what specific thread you're talking about lol

If you've bricked your phone

Okay... we're getting too many threads here with the same problems.
If you think you've bricked your phone or can't figure out what you've done or are stuck, you need to search the forum. There is a LOT of information already here that can help you.
Honestly, if you feel like you could easily get to this point you should probably do more research before doing any modding of your phone.
If you can't find anything, then go to the #Samsung-Continuum channel on IRC ( http://webchat.freenode.net/ ) And see if anyone is there to help you. If not, wait.
If you cannot wait, then search again using different terminology.
Then, if you haven't gotten a fix, you should post your problem within the thread for whatever it was you were trying to do when you messed up your phone.
This will keep our forums usable and the important information where everyone can see it.
Thanks,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18698679
[DEV] Continuum DataBase
Also files to help get u back running
Sent from my SCH-I400 using xda premium

u should sticky this thread to lol.

Yeh... unfortunately I'm not our forum moderator... not sure why they just stick us on random devices instead of the ones we use...
I'll send a note to our mod, see if he'll do it.

Weudel said:
Yeh... unfortunately I'm not our forum moderator... not sure why they just stick us on random devices instead of the ones we use...
I'll send a note to our mod, see if he'll do it.
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Done.
Somehow I ended up with my device, and a bunch of other random forums... like this one .
I am happy they gave me my device tho .

Directions are not good....
I started downloading the files, but honestly guys - I've repartitioned harddrives on a desktop before, reformatted them from DOS into a Windows OS, I've assisted in networking (using windows home based server) a small office (4 people). Your directions to do this are so vauge, I'm not even gonna try in fear I screw it up. I appreciate everything I read on your forum, but not even a google search of all this is helpful, cuz all that's found, is you guys, and your directions are far from step by step. YOu wouldn't be having people post with so many issues if you laid it out for those who are not all that great with technology. Being quite in depth and knowledgeable myself, I know that if it were laid out a little less "techy", even those unfamiliar with these processes would be able to get done without so many issues. Sorry, I don't mean any disrespect, you guys are awesome, helpful, and plain extremely smart, and for those who arise to understanding all the tech lingo and can get themselves partially through this process without a step by step, more power to them. Just thought it would be helpful since I see so many "I screwed up my phone posts".
thank you.

[oldrant] omitted on behalf of users pride [/oldrant]
[newrant]why would you use your first post on whatever that was?
question? statement?
none of the above
if u have read the "i screwed up my phone posts" or been in Irc, you would find out that most were failed flashes found on other sites,
our directions do not "brick" phones, when did our post start pointing guns at the reader?
though I'm wondering why not after your post have fun with 2.1 [/newrant]
Sent from my SCH-I400 using xda premium

Rants
That said (I agree)...join us in the IRC and we'll get you up and running.

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I started downloading the files, but honestly guys - I've repartitioned harddrives on a desktop before, reformatted them from DOS into a Windows OS, I've assisted in networking (using windows home based server) a small office (4 people). Your directions to do this are so vauge, I'm not even gonna try in fear I screw it up. I appreciate everything I read on your forum, but not even a google search of all this is helpful, cuz all that's found, is you guys, and your directions are far from step by step. YOu wouldn't be having people post with so many issues if you laid it out for those who are not all that great with technology. Being quite in depth and knowledgeable myself, I know that if it were laid out a little less "techy", even those unfamiliar with these processes would be able to get done without so many issues. Sorry, I don't mean any disrespect, you guys are awesome, helpful, and plain extremely smart, and for those who arise to understanding all the tech lingo and can get themselves partially through this process without a step by step, more power to them. Just thought it would be helpful since I see so many "I screwed up my phone posts".
thank you.
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This is a DEVELOPERS forum. It's that simple. If you're not up to speed on modifying your device it is not our job to get you there. Read and re-read until you understand and if that doesn't happen then DON'T TRY IT.
That said there are a lot of people around here who would be more than happy to try to help you. Just use the PM function or the IRC chat, please. ;D

it annoys me when people post sounding threads all frantic saying i think i bricked witch is a term thrown around far to much these days because the fact of the matter is, is its almost impossible brick a samsung device

[Q] i know nothing

hi all. there appears to be a real lot of seriously patient and helpful people here. i am really hoping so. if any of you have helped who you think is a complete idiot with the Nexus7, believe me, you haven't yet. i am about to change all that.
i have the wifi 32gig old Nexus 7. i have been lucky from the point of view that a friend of mine is much more knowledgeable than i could ever hope to be who has always helped when things went a bit awry. however, i would like to be able to learn to do some things myself. the new update seemed like a reasonable place to start. wrong!
anyway, i have the nexus7 described above running Android 4.2.2 and has TWRP installed. i didn't know that it wouldn't accept the 4.3 update OTA so had the issue that after downloading (i assume it has) the update, it asked to reboot. upon doing so, the TWRP screen appeared. i had no idea which option to choose so just selected 'Reboot'. it promptly did so and i found it is still on 4.2.2. that is where i am at the moment. i have looked around the forum but as i dont know what i am looking for, dont know if i have found it.
is anyone willing to take my life in their hands and try to educate 'a willing to learn but know nothing atm' newbe? even pointing me perhaps to some real idiot-proof info pages so i can at least read a bit would be a start. info on how to get from where i am (running 4.2.2) to where i would like to be (running 4.3) would be better, but hey, a start is a start
many TIA

I know nothing
come on guys. please help out here. we weren't all born with the knowledge to do these various tasks. we all have to begin at the beginning! i'm sure someone helped you out to start with

Read the stickies. Going back to stock. Its not hard and someone else has already done the hard part of spelling it all out for you.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Prettygrim said:
come on guys. please help out here. we weren't all born with the knowledge to do these various tasks. we all have to begin at the beginning! i'm sure someone helped you out to start with
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I read everything I could about my devices. Search for my issues, here and on Google. Why wait for answers here when I can find just about every issue and fix on earth very quickly.
It's the best way to learn. Posting back and forth on here with people can take a lot of time to solve an issue....searching can solve it in minutes.
Just my two cents.
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I know nothing
tnx for replies guys, but the problem is as i stated in my first post, i dont know what i have got to read. i looked on here and on Google. i am quite capable of using the search, but when i dont know exactly what i am searching for, it is a problem. i asked if someone could point me to what i needed to look at, i am not asking for someone to sit down next to me and do the job, unless i get in a muddle and i would then say.

I told you what to read. THE STICKIES!
They exist for a reason. More specifically you want information found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
But there are other threads that cover it as well.
Read the stickies
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Pirateghost said:
I told you what to read. THE STICKIES!
They exist for a reason. More specifically you want information found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
But there are other threads that cover it as well.
Read the stickies
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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You can lead a horse to water...

No offence intended, but I would leave your device alone until you have done all your research and understand exactly what you're doing. Otherwise you will very easily end up with a shiny paper weight.
Happens all the time here. And why? People did stuff without reading AND understanding what they were doing.

kj2112 said:
No offence intended, but I would leave your device alone until you have done all your research and understand exactly what you're doing. Otherwise you will very easily end up with a shiny paper weight.
Happens all the time here. And why? People did stuff without reading AND understanding what they were doing.
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Wise advice indeed... I had a long winded explanation ready to go... then I read this.
There already seems to have been a higher-than-average number of hardbricks (broken bootloaders) since the rollout of 4.3.
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@Prettygrim ...
Stick with 4.2.2 until you know what you're doing... but in the meantime, read everything you can find on fastboot and ADB.
Rgrds,
Ged.

Pirateghost said:
I told you what to read. THE STICKIES!
They exist for a reason. More specifically you want information found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
But there are other threads that cover it as well.
Read the stickies
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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you telling me to read the Stickies means absolutely nothing if i dont know what stickies to read or where they are. being a developer has done nothing as far as having some patience is concerned. i venture to say that you were not born with a nexus 7 hanging out your backside and an inbuilt knowledge of what to do. i also venture that you had to be shown and have explained procedures to you as well before you became competent at doing anything. your second post of 'Read The Stickies at least has a link so i know what to look at.. thanks for that!

They are literally at the top section of the ****ing forum. Links? I gave you a damn link to start with.
No I wasn't born with the knowledge of the system, but thanks to the fact that lots of people already documented tons of this stuff I didn't need to have my hand held.
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many tnx Ged. you have told me what to look for and what to read. i have an idea now where to begin. appreciate the help

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They are literally at the top section of the ****ing forum. Links? I gave you a damn link to start with.
No I wasn't born with the knowledge of the system, but thanks to the fact that lots of people already documented tons of this stuff I didn't need to have my hand held.
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your first reply had no link at all
if i were you mate, i'd get out of here. the pressure is obviously too much for you.
as for the holding the hand bit, i am glad you had sufficient knowledge to be able to do it without. unfortunately not all of us have that. one thing i am not though, is an ignorant ****ing arsehole like you who thinks he's the dogs bollocks and treats new people like they are something that the cat dragged in!! what an attitude!!
oh, and dont bother to ban me, i ban myself!!

Hi, guys...
Can we all just take a step back here a little...
This whole thing is becoming a little intense.
@Pirateghost
You know your stuff, most decidedly... and I understand you're a little irritated by people who don't seem to want to be bothered....
But I don't think that's the case with with @Prettygrim. My instinct tells me he has approached XDA with the desire to learn (by his own admission, he knows nothing) ..... and is willing. Not everybody can hit the ground running.
@Prettygrim
XDA can sometimes seem to be a little unforgiving, particularly for beginners (you're thrown in at the deep end, with guys who have thousands of posts and years of experience under their belt), but slinging insults around is not the best way of helping yourself.
Do a bit of Googling... searchphrases : Nexus 7 4.3 OTA zip... Nexus 7 fastboot... Nexus 7 ADB.
There's a whole shed load of interesting stuff out there... and it's your's for the taking. BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO DO THE TAKING.
It's almost become a cliche, but it also happens to be true... Google is your friend.
Use it.
Peace everybody .
Rgrds,
Ged.

Lol. I'm the ignorant asshole because I know how to read and search?
Ged, yes I get extremely irritated at people who don't even bother searching before they post. It was horrible of me to assume that by hinting at what sticky he needed to read that it was enough. I didn't provide a link for him, therefore I'm the horrible person.
The agitation really kicks in high gear after a new android release. There is so much stupid in these forums the weeks following a release that after wading through thousands of worthless posts I tend to snap on at least one of them. I tried being nice and directing him to the stickies but it wasn't good enough. He wanted to be spoonfed the info. There are rules here that so many people break just by hitting that new thread button without doing any due diligence. Its ridiculous.
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tnx Ged, for having a little bit of patience. i am willing to learn. i can read IF i know what to read! now i've been pointed to 'fastboot' and 'adb' i have a starting point and appreciate that.

pirateghost, if anyone wasn't reading it's you. i already said i had looked around. before being able to do something you want to do for the very first time, you have to know how to do it. before you can learn how to do it, you need to know what information to look for. that in itself isn't always easy or as straight forward as it perhaps should be. it seems to me that instead of of giving advice, encouragement and information, you use this forum as a personal 'have a go at some other thick ***ker'. you may well be extremely knowledgeable but you were not, under any circumstances, born with the knowledge inbuilt. you had to be taught. and i hasten to bet that whoever taught you had to have a bit of patience and a bit of forgiving. you didn't get it all right all the time, let alone the first time, so start cutting people a little slack, eh? one day i might be able to do this stuff by myself but it sure as hell aint gonna be yet a while and i know it! slagging people off, making them feel like the inferior beings that, at this moment, they (me) obviously are doesn't exactly lead them to wanting to be bothered to learn. that is a shame because one of those you ridicule could become really good and be of benefit to the whole community

Prettygrim said:
tnx Ged, for having a little bit of patience. i am willing to learn. i can read IF i know what to read! now i've been pointed to 'fastboot' and 'adb' i have a starting point and appreciate that.
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Do you know what a sticky is in the forum?
Its where there is lots of relevant information that applies to a particular device and is denoted by a thumbtack image. It is always at the top of the forum section and threads can't be bumped above them unless they themselves become stickies or announcements.
That is where you start your reading. Along the way you will notice keywords that need to be explained. Those keywords are usually explained in the sticky but if they aren't then there is this awesome search provider called Google that will assist you in any way it can. Its really cool and you should give him a shot sometime.
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Pirateghost said:
Lol. I'm the ignorant asshole because I know how to read and search?
Ged, yes I get extremely irritated at people who don't even bother searching before they post. It was horrible of me to assume that by hinting at what sticky he needed to read that it was enough. I didn't provide a link for him, therefore I'm the horrible person.
The agitation really kicks in high gear after a new android release. There is so much stupid in these forums the weeks following a release that after wading through thousands of worthless posts I tend to snap on at least one of them. I tried being nice and directing him to the stickies but it wasn't good enough. He wanted to be spoonfed the info. There are rules here that so many people break just by hitting that new thread button without doing any due diligence. Its ridiculous.
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That is correct. The rules do say to search first.....and that somehow seems impossible for some.
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I think it's sad that we have someone who wants to learn more about their device, and get's treated so badly. What some of you need to understand, is that the knowledge regarding these devices doesn't come so easily to everyone. What you were able to learn so easily is like a foreign language to someone else. I just ask that we all try to have some patience with members who are less experienced and knowledgeable than we are.