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Looking to switch back to Sense

I have been using CyanogenMod for a while now, but I want to give Sense another try. I have a couple quick questions.
- Are there any Sense ROMs that are a fairly decent balance of fast and stable? I can deal with the occasional force close if the ROM is significantly faster than another, but I'd say stability is more of a priority to me.
- I don't particularly like the Sense People and Calendar apps (I've found they're a bit slower than the AOSP apps). Can I just install the AOSP versions without major stability issues? If yes, would the Sense dialer still be able to pull from the AOSP Contacts app?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I omitted one thing. I'd say that stability is the most important aspect, followed by battery life. I know battery life is mostly determined by the kernel. Can anyone recommend a good Sense kernel as well?
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I would try WarmZ 2.2 or Incredibly Re-Engineered both of those are sense 2.0 and are stable and fast. I liked both. But it's up to you!
Kernel wise, the kernels they come with worked great for me.

SkyRaider 3.5 w/Lou's #8 - slick....
4.0 is due out very soon.

Nils business z with ziggys latest bfs wo havs kernel is very stable with xcellent battery
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Z ROMs are nice, and quick, but there's been a spattering of reports on phantom calls and reboots. Hence, I would not say they are fully stable and dependable. There are also some quirks when using some apps (e.g. swype keyboard).
In my experience, you need to stick with 100% incredible framework if you value stability and reliability. I am a huge fan of both IncROM and Magnolia. They are both very fast in my book, and everything works out of the box, so to speak. When SR 4 hits in a few days it may be great as well.
To your question about contacts...
No, you cannot simply install AOSP versions onto a Sense ROM. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've never had any issues with swype on z roms or had any random reboots or phantom calls (I'm not even sure exactly what that refers to). I've usually used the warm z nightlies. Guess it just depends on the phone/rom.
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Okay, I have tried Incredibly Reengineered and IncROM. Are there any good ROMs that have more of a stock Sense look to them? I dont like all the transparency and custom colors and etc..
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Redemption.

k_nivesout said:
I've never had any issues with swype on z roms or had any random reboots or phantom calls (I'm not even sure exactly what that refers to). I've usually used the warm z nightlies. Guess it just depends on the phone/rom.
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yeah, the issue I'm referring to is more of an annoyance. You know, how the Sense copy/paste functions cover up the Swype word choices when you double-click a word to correct it? It's the little things....Still, I am very torn between Z-ROMs and Inc ROMs because I do like many other things about the Z.

raptir said:
Okay, I have tried Incredibly Reengineered and IncROM. Are there any good ROMs that have more of a stock Sense look to them? I dont like all the transparency and custom colors and etc..
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SkyRaider 3.5, and then 4.0 when it is released (you can look at image previews of 4.0 through ROM manager if you wish).

Epicardium said:
yeah, the issue I'm referring to is more of an annoyance. You know, how the Sense copy/paste functions cover up the Swype word choices when you double-click a word to correct it? It's the little things....Still, I am very torn between Z-ROMs and Inc ROMs because I do like many other things about the Z.
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Oh ok, I never ran into that but I see what you mean. I think after we get the ota update things will be a lot smoother in regards to some of the z rom issues. Assuming we get an updated sense that is..
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Epicardium said:
Z ROMs are nice, and quick, but........ There are also some quirks when using some apps (e.g. swype keyboard). ............
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I use Swype. I also ask annoyed by that issue with the cut and paste option blocking the word choice/edit on MIUI. I assumed it was part of Gingerbread. Not so?
Edit- pls excuse my blunder. Of course Warm Z is not GB so that answers my question. Then again MIUI is AOSP and also has that.
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My strong recommendation would be Magnolia. Options are superb.. battery is splendid... and the developer entertains personal requests.
Best stable and aesthetically pleasing rom for me.

warm z 2.2 nightly 4/14 is amazing. ziggys new kernel is in it and my phone has never been so smooth and snappy while on a sense rom. sense 2.0 is also a plus

sruel3216 said:
warm z 2.2 nightly 4/14 is amazing. ziggys new kernel is in it and my phone has never been so smooth and snappy while on a sense rom. sense 2.0 is also a plus
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Yup
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Okay, I'll give Warm Z a shot. I'm using SkyRaider, and while I like the ROM, the battery life is very poor compared to what I was used to with CM7. I'm looking at under two hours of 3g browsing on a charge.
Tried both Chad's kernel as well as Lou's 8, and found similar results.
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raptir said:
Okay, I'll give Warm Z a shot. I'm using SkyRaider, and while I like the ROM, the battery life is very poor compared to what I was used to with CM7. I'm looking at under two hours of 3g browsing on a charge.
Tried both Chad's kernel as well as Lou's 8, and found similar results.
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That's gotta be some kind of mistake. I've had the best battery life on Skyraider. I usually can get near 18 hours or more...

Well, what kernel are you using? Also, I did find that if I get rid of all my widgets I get better battery life, but that kind of makes Sense seem silly...
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I get fantastic battery off nils business z with ziggys kernel
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New user

New user here, I'd just like to say Hi. I'm usually on the Moto Droid forums. Just got my Nexus S 4g today and I LOVE it.
Rooted running CM7 Nightlies.
I just had a few questions
I understand this phone cant do 720p. Is there a hack that can?
Does RenderFX help battery life? if so, which setting?
What are some roms/kernels you suggest?
Also, ill be working on some Themes for the Nexus S, (I'm a theme designer).
I usually make themes that make the phone look like another phone (iPhone, x10, Atrix 4G)
I'd also like to thank XDA for providing such an active user-base.
Think of a theme and ill try to make it, Thanks

Best battery life rom I found was oxygen. I thought I was going crazy because the battery life was so good. Its great plus you can download voodoo and it has netarchy kernel. Plus its aosp more than stock. Miui is most beautiful theme rich rom but battery life sucks. Cm7 was OK for me just kind of buggy. So I stuck with oxygen. Oh and nope...no camera hacks yet. No HD video or zoom. Sorry.
Hope this helps
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Jorge330823 said:
Best battery life rom I found was oxygen. I thought I was going crazy because the battery life was so good. Its great plus you can download voodoo and it has netarchy kernel. Plus its aosp more than stock. Miui is most beautiful theme rich rom but battery life sucks. Cm7 was OK for me just kind of buggy. So I stuck with oxygen. Oh and nope...no camera hacks yet. No HD video or zoom. Sorry.
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helps a lot, thanks

tylerwatt12 said:
helps a lot, thanks
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No problem. I've had time to play with it and those were my results. Check out "zedomax" channel on YouTube he just got a ns4g so he'll start reviewing Roms shortly
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Another question, does this phone require Cell service for GPS?

tylerwatt12 said:
Another question, does this phone require Cell service for GPS?
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That's one thing I'm completely unsure of I know I've been in the middle of a call and all of a sudden it announces a turn ahead. Turn data off (settings then wireless and networks and then mobile data click off) and try to get a direction
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tylerwatt12 said:
New user here, I'd just like to say Hi. I'm usually on the Moto Droid forums. Just got my Nexus S 4g today and I LOVE it.
Rooted running CM7 Nightlies.
I just had a few questions
I understand this phone cant do 720p. Is there a hack that can?
Does RenderFX help battery life? if so, which setting?
What are some roms/kernels you suggest?
Also, ill be working on some Themes for the Nexus S, (I'm a theme designer).
I usually make themes that make the phone look like another phone (iPhone, x10, Atrix 4G)
I'd also like to thank XDA for providing such an active user-base.
Think of a theme and ill try to make it, Thanks
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I got mine on Friday! There will never be 720p video as its a hardware limitation. In order to fit the nfc chip, Google opted to use a smaller camera without an HD encoder.
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Rem3Dy said:
I got mine on Friday!
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Congrats on joining the family
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For my TASTE, I like decks 1.3d since I had the least amount of issues with, none really. The kernel I have had the best luck with is Matr1x 6.0 cfs. I like the fact that it has voodoo if needed, bln and bld now. Since I updated to 6.0 I have had no lockups or reboots period. I don't change the speed or volting just the govenor (sp). They are smooth together. But for what its worth phones might not like the same thing as another.
I have tried just about every rom on xda for the ns4g.
Decks
Miui
Ice and fire
Stock rooted
Oyxgen
Kings
But I don't want to try cm7 as to battery life when I get well over 12hrs of use daily and no nightlys cause it seems like something is always broke. No offense to either or anyone, just what I prefer.
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bigtoysrock said:
For my TASTE, I like decks 1.3d since I had the least amount of issues with, none really. The kernel I have had the best luck with is Matr1x 6.0 cfs. I like the fact that it has voodoo if needed, bln and bld now. Since I updated to 6.0 I have had no lockups or reboots period. I don't change the speed or volting just the govenor (sp). They are smooth together. But for what its worth phones might not like the same thing as another.
I have tried just about every rom on xda for the ns4g.
Decks
Miui
Ice and fire
Stock rooted
Oyxgen
Kings
But I don't want to try cm7 as to battery life when I get well over 12hrs of use daily and no nightlys cause it seems like something is always broke. No offense to either or anyone, just what I prefer.
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My home button didn't work with deck. Does yours?
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Your talking about the one next to the search button? Yes it does.
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bigtoysrock said:
Your talking about the one next to the search button? Yes it does.
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Yeah when I use deck mine doesn't work. At all.
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Did you try reflashing it? What all did you wipe? Did you flash a kernel also?
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Used stock kernel wiped dalvik and data 3 times it didn't work so I restored my backup and tried again and still nothinh
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Maybe try again with a different kernel. I wipe cache once, factory reset once and write dalvik 3 times. Install decks 1.3D with matr1x 6.0.
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bigtoysrock said:
Maybe try again with a different kernel. I wipe cache once, factory reset once and write dalvik 3 times. Install decks 1.3D with matr1x 6.0.
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I'm gonna try matrix but I'm kinda in a bind. I need stock nexus s 4g kernel. I flashed netarchy and backed it up then when I went to delete my miui backup I accidentally deleted my completely stock (besides super user) backup and now I have no stock kernel.
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so MANY miui

omg what is this?? I go to vibrant dev section and all i see are like 800 roms of miui...
Can someone explain how they differ? I understand some do, such as neobuddy's new rom because of the massive tweaks and mods, but the others? Theres a miui stock, miui.us, miui 360 ... what is this?!?!?

There's only 3? Lol
The Stock MIUI is like stock CM7,
The MIUI 360 and that other one by Neosomething are almost the same, they have similar tweaks.

Because it's so customizeable an there are more CM7's I think
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VeryCoolAlan said:
There's only 3? Lol
The Stock MIUI is like stock CM7,
The MIUI 360 and that other one by Neosomething are almost the same, they have similar tweaks.
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MIUI-NB
MIUI-US
MIUI SS
MIUI LITHIUM
MIUI NEXUS PRIME
MIUI IPHONE360
MIUI ANDROID-STYLE
MIUI ICS
I count 8 so far - may be more though

Hmm how many 2.2 roms are there.....how many Ginger ,2.3 roms are out there....in my opinion miui is taking off nicely...
Although miui is 2.3 its not at all like Ginger or any other filmware out there
Its a whole different animal

i'd say the 4 MIUI roms under the same thread has the most support ...
and i got my working GPS using their rom. great work
i was in CM7 too but i just love MIUI for its customisation

On the MIUI discussion. Has there yet been a MIUI published that has an App Drawer built in, or has the capabilities of using one? I tried MIUI a while back but could not get past it not having an App Drawer. I know I move the apps to a folder and have the folder docked but this does not work quite the way I want it to, that and I have over 130 apps, and this takes a long time to move them to a folder. To be honest it is the only thing holding me back from using MIUI again.

Just use a different launcher that does have an app drawer, I'm using go launcher and loving it
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bfranklin1986 said:
Just use a different launcher that does have an app drawer, I'm using go launcher and loving it
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Last time I tried, a couple of months ago,I had issues using any other launcher. I was using stock MIUI. If we are able to use additional launchers, I may have to give MIUI another try.
Oh and GOLauncher is what I use with CWM right now. Best Launcher I have found so far.

For one yes you can use any launcher you want and have an app drawer and second there is an alternative app drawer in android developement forum and the market.

Raistline said:
Last time I tried, a couple of months ago,I had issues using any other launcher. I was using stock MIUI. If we are able to use additional launchers, I may have to give MIUI another try.
Oh and GOLauncher is what I use with CWM right now. Best Launcher I have found so far.
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Market launchers certainly work fine with MIUI ROMs.... Plus, if anything, you can just make a folder for all of your apps, set it to "arrange alphabetically" and just put all of your apps in that folder.

I like turtles.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
I like turtles.
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you remind me of my friend Hadyn.
He says that constantly but makes me laugh so hard haha

thinking of trying a different rom. Been using bionix. Would you suggest if MIUI is a good rom to move to? Hows the battery life?

Miui is faster and smoother, battery life isn't quite as good as a 2.2 rom but it's getting better. It's defiantly good enough for a daily driver.

xriderx66 said:
you remind me of my friend Hadyn.
He says that constantly but makes me laugh so hard haha
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Is she hot?
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ok, no miui app drawer. if you have 130 apps then i would suggest you sort them by use/function in folders. ie. Social/Tools/Games/etc.
other then the miui.us version all the roms you see are themed variants with additional apps/build.prop tweaks. most are setup by Nick and his team.
i usually just download stock miui, and rip the build.prop out of nicks rom edit it to suit my needs, strip out the crap apps i don't ever use zip and install.

boystuff said:
ok, no miui app drawer. if you have 130 apps then i would suggest you sort them by use/function in folders. ie. Social/Tools/Games/etc.
other then the miui.us version all the roms you see are themed variants with additional apps/build.prop tweaks. most are setup by Nick and his team.
i usually just download stock miui, and rip the build.prop out of nicks rom edit it to suit my needs, strip out the crap apps i don't ever use zip and install.
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hehe.. that what I do....

any suggestions on which miui rom to get? i keep seeing nick's 4 roms and neobuddy's nb rom on top views.

VeryCoolAlan said:
Is she hot?
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I said HE in the sentence, alan what the hell lol

G2 Slim Or Virtuous G-lite

I was just wondering which one is better for speed, battery life and their UI's. I have given up on the Sense roms, too slow and buggy.
Thanks
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masterleron said:
I was just wondering which one is better for speed, battery life and their UI's. I have given up on the Sense roms, too slow and buggy.
Thanks
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I know I've seen your name in the forums before, but forget what you're using now. Have you tried either of the EliteMod versions (one CM7, one ICS?) I'm using the latter now and very happy with it for speed, battery and UI (Apex launcher.)

prairie-dad said:
I know I've seen your name in the forums before, but forget what you're using now. Have you tried either of the EliteMod versions (one CM7, one ICS?) I'm using the latter now and very happy with it for speed, battery and UI (Apex launcher.)
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I second this, for ICS either elitemod or Andromadus mimicry. Apex launcher.
Though for gingerbread, I'd say elitemod CM7 or g2slim.
Also for an even faster and lighter launcher there is lightning launcher.
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prairie-dad said:
I know I've seen your name in the forums before, but forget what you're using now. Have you tried either of the EliteMod versions (one CM7, one ICS?) I'm using the latter now and very happy with it for speed, battery and UI (Apex launcher.)
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Yeash, I must ask a lot of questions then, lol. I am currently on Gen. Y Vision B5. However I have found it very slow and buggy. I have also tried Andromadus Mimicry. It was the best i'd seen, but I wanted something which had better battery life.
Will have a look at EliteMod Now.
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ILWT for me...

MIUI
Better battery life + Good Look = its definitely MIUI
from my experience MIUI has the best battery life.. abt 2 hours of music, txting, wifi, browsing and total of 30min calling, yet i always come home above 30%

Dryize said:
Better battery life + Good Look = its definitely MIUI
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I know that I've asked this before but does these ROMs set the phone's CPU to a default speed? Or do you do that yourself by using something like the SetCPU app?
I'm in the process of rooting my phone and will be looking at GB ROMs such as MIUI, ILWT and CM7.

GrievousMcG said:
I know that I've asked this before but does these ROMs set the phone's CPU to a default speed? Or do you do that yourself by using something like the SetCPU app?
I'm in the process of rooting my phone and will be looking at GB ROMs such as MIUI, ILWT and CM7.
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MIUI doesn't have a built in feature to set CPU speeds. But most other CM based roms does have such option built in. Look for something like Performance->CPU in settings. There you can set a CPU governor too

I thought MIUI was discontinued for our devices?

It is confusing because of the several Miui sites. But that is the impression I get, too. I just spent a certain amount of time looking, and failed to come up with anything current.
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Yes they discontinued support for the vision after gingerbread. Anything found that is android 4.0 or higher will be ports, not to say they will be good or bad but they won't be specific to our phones
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kbeezie said:
I thought MIUI was discontinued for our devices?
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Yes it is... But it is stable and it has every feature needed. I have used MIUI without restarting for more than a week. No glitches though. But sure can use extra stuff like miui_bulletproof_pack, though Im not using it.
Its a stable rom + with super cool look + good performance and good battery life. What else do we need

masterleron said:
I was just wondering which one is better for speed, battery life and their UI's. I have given up on the Sense roms, too slow and buggy.
Thanks
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I've tried both and performance and stability wise I'd go with glite not that slim isn't good
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Tried G-Lite, however it had some simple bugs such as the screen timeout not working. .
Back to Mimicry.
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masterleron said:
Tried G-Lite, however it had some simple bugs such as the screen timeout not working. .
Back to Mimicry.
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G-light hands down its fast stable gives you the option of choosing kernels before flashing (conservative HTC kernel or full featured kernel capable of 1.4ghz Oc) . As for issues their ain't none I've been using g-light since it came to play . The screen issue must of been a bad flash
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Most stable ROM for daily use

Could you suggest which ROM is the best and stable for daily use?

In my opinion, CM7!
Very stable and very good battery life!
Try'it!
Sorry for english!
Atrix - "CM7"

If you are looking for a Stable Rom, Rom try TopSmarts GB 1.0 by ItaloSnt, I'm using the four days and still not ancontrei no bug. And excellent battery life. Super fast and stable. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854440
I hope I helped.

Pretty much any Gingerbread rom you install is going to be stable.
The dev's have worked a long time with it and the main difference is features now, not stability

I would say any rom based on cm7. I would recommend topsmarts gb rom also. Been using it for a couple of days and it's noticeably quicker than stock cm7 and has better battery life :thumbup:
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Agreed, CM7 hands down. Blur is much slower, and CM9/10 have a lot of issues.

CM10 is my daily ROM right now...
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Epinter CM10 09/01/2012 build is solid enough for me. I do not use fingerprint sensor, webtop, car dock thing. I can also solve any issues I might encounter by myself most of the time.
Sorry for bad english!
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If you want a blur rom then definetly Nottachtrix
If you want Cm7 then Topsmarts Gb :good:

Stock ROM is the most stable...
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YouTube app crashes all the time on stock att rom. I had to do a battery pull to fix it.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Epinter CM10 09/01/2012 build is solid enough for me. I do not use fingerprint sensor, webtop, car dock thing. I can also solve any issues I might encounter by myself most of the time.
Sorry for bad english!
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I must agree with you. For those who do not require camera working 100%, CM10 Epinter and a very good option. Even this and my Rom Backup.

alexmadrocker said:
I must agree with you. For those who do not require camera working 100%, CM10 Epinter and a very good option. Even this and my Rom Backup.
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To tell you the truth, my external sd card is only used for Nandroids. I have a backup of all the most recent ROMs. If i know I will need things not available on CM10, I just reboot into TWRP2 recovery and swap ROMs.
CM10 makes your Atrix feel new again.
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Most stable rom is CM7. I wouldn't do any of that modded CM7 stuff just regular old CM7 from http://get.cm. CM7 runs great, gets the best benchmarks, run the smoothest, gets the best battery life, and is completely stable. I haven't even had one crash on any app yet and I've been running and installing the latest nightlies for 2 weeks now. I love CM10 but for me I just got tired of the glitches/horrible battery life/overheating/no video camera/stability problems.

Alien ROM version 4
Best ever
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