Easier to get ICS on Fire than a Phone? - Kindle Fire General

Now I am not a developer but by my observations the hardest part of making roms work is radios. I've seen roms come out with wifi issues at first only to be fixed days later. Because this has no radios except for WiFi I figured it might be an accurate assumption that the fire will get ICS, unofficially, more quickly.
Just my two cents. Any major devs working on this device, notably ICS?
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ICS Source Released

For those devs who would find this useful, the ICS source has just been released.
Further here: http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f?pli=1
(EDIT: Please note that the GIT repo is syncing the code in, I'm not sure if it is complete yet)
yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!
wooo!!! ICS on my Acer! ....eventually
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I have faith that i will have ics on my Acer as well as my Inspire soon
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By no means rushing anything, just curious...what's the expected turnaround for a rom on the A500 based on this?
I am fully aware that this is very new and different to all of us and it will take some time to figure out, just wondering what everyone thinks. Excited
Just an update to say the sync is complete, so cooks can get on their way now. Compiling ICS takes quite a bit of time and power though (5 hours on a quad core with 16gb of RAM!) so it might be a few days at least before we see the first AOSP release for the A500. Maybe sooner if we get a dedicated dev to work on it it might even be faster if someone cooks a ROM on another device (Xoom or Transformer for example) and then makes a port for the A500. Of course, it would be a bit buggier doing it this way. Either way, we'll be seeing ICS pretty soon. We just need to be patient
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well, given that they're probably fitting ICS to the Iconia officially towards the middle or end of January, I'd say we'll get custom roms by december..
tgtoys said:
By no means rushing anything, just curious...what's the expected turnaround for a rom on the A500 based on this?
I am fully aware that this is very new and different to all of us and it will take some time to figure out, just wondering what everyone thinks. Excited
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expect some drivers that could need some tricks, i guess it would be easy to port it
Finally the long anticipated ICS will be presented to the Iconia.
Closed.
There is already another thread here for ICS

Where is the GT-N8013 Developement?

I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon
ej_424 said:
I see a few GT-N8000 options, but no love for us US Wi-Fi Only (N8013) users.... Hopefully that will change soon
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The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.
Same for the Euro N8010 Wifi only version. No dev either...
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The device launched LAST THURSDAY...
Competent developers take time to test and polish their stuff, they don't just throw random crap out into the wild to claim "first".
The only reason the N8000 is ahead right now is because it had about a week headstart in availability.
I can tell you at least two Cyanogenmod device maintainers have purchased or have Note 10.1s on order - Myself (N8013 in my possession) and Espenfjo (N8000 on order), also I think chris41g and at least one other member of the CM team have N8013s.
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Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!
I'm so looking forward to the boost CM will give to this tablet judging from my experience with CM9 giving new life to my old Galaxy S Epic 4G.
This device should be quite popular with Developers due to the s-pen. I am betting we have roms galore in about 30 days,
We have root already at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152.
It just released, give it time.
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Understood and makes sense (wasn't aware they had the headstart). Glad to hear you have a 8013 as I've seen alot of good work from you in the past for current and previously owned devices. One quick question... maybe its too early to say, but do you see porting the S-Pen apps and functionality to CM 10 even as an option? Maybe its not even possible....
Thanks again!
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Apps with the S-Pen SDK - No.
Apps that use the standard ICS Pen APIs - Yes - these are becoming more and more common. PS Touch may even be in this category, I won't know until I've tried. I had a bunch of N7000/I777 stuff to do this past weekend so didn't even start on CM10 bringup.
Built-in features such as stylus gestures and an included note-taking app - There was work started on this, the Note 10.1 will make it more important to get this stuff finished. Google dropping JB kind of put a hold on the "new CM features" stuff as we tried to un-break all the old ones.
Might I just say, it is [email protected] good to see you here, Entropy.
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One thing, as far as CM on the N80xx:
I probably could have had CM booting and mostly working with only a few hours of work. However, there's the "quick way" and there's the "right way". The "quick way" would've gotten my N8013 working without providing any benefit for N8000, and without leveraging I9300 commonality. The "right way" takes quite a bit more time - but leverages commonality with the I9300. I'm REALLY hoping we can use the same smdk4412 kernel source tree as the I9300 with just some patches, as it makes maintenance MUCH easier, but could take some time to initially pull in all the right patches.
Similarly, getting an N8013 device tree would've been easy. Having a "common" tree takes more time but means all N80xx devices will pretty much all be maintained to the same degree. See P51xx/P31xx...
Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Seeing alot of well known Dev's.. This is great and very encouraging. The hardware on this device is awsome, only complan and minor one at that is the screen resolution. In all honesty though it really doesnt bother me much as there ins't much jaggy endges.
As is usual - Whenever Samsung releases a new device (or even a major upgrade to an old device - See I9100 ICS cpufreq derpage which took multiple kernel developers 2-3 weeks to figure out), there's some really derped-up **** in the source.
Right now, any source-built kernel has massive issues with wifi - The SDIO interface just seems to shut down and the chip drops off the face of the earth. This does not happen in the stock kernel.
This one's gonna be a pain in the ass to figure out.
See attached dmesg for an example of the fun...
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Think I saw viperboy lurking in the forum
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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Heh, but I promise you I'm nowhere near as good as the CM guys are. Once I get my tablet, I might do a stock ROM with some tweaks but it won't be anything insane.
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So modest
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ilostmypistons said:
So modest
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Lol viperboy has no cause for modesty
We look forward to his always excellent work.
I wonder what this will overclock to when they have the kernel figured out?
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HI my note 10.1 is the shw-m480w is the wifi version bough tin korea
how does translates to the other code names so i can flash a custom rom?
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7.7 support dead with Nexus 7 3G arrival, why only roms based on CM and nothing else?

Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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adinis78 said:
Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
Gilbot said:
It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
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I feel for them
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You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
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I don't seem them releasing an update now with Nexus 7 3G-wifi coming out soon, everybody will jump on it just as they have with wifi Nexus 7
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Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
songmeesay said:
Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
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True enough.
But when all is said and done.....even stock ROM ICS gives us a damned great tab. We can always hope (delusionally perhaps) Samsung will release a JB update.....but even if not, I quite look forward to years of enjoyment with my 7.7.
i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
aletheus said:
i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
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In Romania they removed it from the site, and also no support given to it.

Ubuntu OS for tablet....

Can the Xoom after all these years handle the new Ubuntu tablet OS? I hope so because i just return my Galaxy note 10.1. I guess i need to order a nexus 10.1
I hope it will.
It looks like an awesome OS and I hope some of the amazing devs we have will be able to port it.
Ubuntu is open source and uses Linux kernel as Andorid does, so it should be doable.
Xoom's specs should be good enough to handle it, but until we don't put our hands on the OS we can't tell anything more specific.
However Nexus 7, that is one of the test devices for Ubuntu Touch has the same amount of RAM (1 Gb) as our tablet, so I am positive about it.
Xoom being non neon might be a problem. But that same issue is what cut off official support for 4.2+ versions of android, and I'm running a very functional 4.2.2 rom right now (EOS4).
it's already Work in progress....
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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it's already work in progress....
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/touch/devices
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we love howard chan!
I'd love to see Ubuntu on my Xoom!
It shouldn't be to hard since ubuntu touch os uses cyanogenmod as a base which we already have
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cool i would like to have it on my tablet xD
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it would be sooo f***ing great to have it on my xoom ! hoping for a soon availability
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it would be sooo f***ing great to have it on my xoom ! hoping for a soon availability
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
It will be available as soon as you port it...
I started working on it a little last night but I'm getting a new computer next week so I decided to just wait. I don't want to spend the time to set everything up and have to do it again in another 5 days... Maybe someone else will start working on it in the meantime but honestly it still needs a lot of work. Right now it's worth flashing for about 5-10 minutes to satisfy ones curiosity and that's about it.
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Since there is least to nil development for xyboard 10.1 lte, will the xoom or xoom 2 ubuntu be used for xyboard, or can some developer port it for xyboard 10.1 i am aware this request is way to early but better early than late or never.
Oh I can't wait I know one of our genius devs will make it happen
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I believe pulled the motorola xoom to ubuntu developing
I setup the environment, and got the Xoom specific part to build but no boot joy. Im no dev but ill start trying to track down issues on my own. I also noticed the xoom is no longer listed on the devices page as a WIP.
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I setup the environment, and got the Xoom specific part to build but no boot joy. Im no dev but ill start trying to track down issues on my own. I also noticed the xoom is no longer listed on the devices page as a WIP.
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I was able to get it running on my Xoom, see this thread.
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TeamEos joins CodeFireX - discussion and testing

bigrushdog said:
Ohai! Here's the deal. I pulled the plug on the Eos project for a few reasons. First, I became unable to maintain the quality of the project while having to deal with countless internal systems issues and doing branch and build maintenance. Second, I didn't have control of the servers and other various resources, like the Goo account. That's why I couldn't get rid of the last two derped builds. Third, I'd rather focus on innovation than dealing with all the internal AOSP build system stuff. As of now, it appears the Eos servers are offline. Which is fine because i have the repository on numerous boxes and right here on my laptop. Finally, I was no longer enjoying Androiding. I NEEDED SOME FRESH ENERGY! Virtually the entire Eos team has already migrated to the new project and got their respective devices up and running! I put about 40 hours a week into Android and I needed to find some guys who have similar time to dedicate to a project. And that team is CodeFireX, lead by Synergy.
A little about Synergy, founder and new combined project team leader. Synergy is a linux guru. He is a master of the aosp build system and talented C programmer. Synergy leads the AOSP scene in innovative new optimization techniques and build solutions. TeamEos has worked closely with Synergy and CodeFireX for a while now. So the decision for us to migrate over to CFX made perfect sense.
When I drop some test builds, you will notice that, indeed, it is a new project, with some new philosophy. There is more CyanogenMod resources in this project. Particularly, some of the CyanogenMod apps including the CMFileManager and Apollo, the CM music player. We are also using the open source Superuser solution from Koush. "Why is this?" "Won't it look like a kang build?" Well, yes. But this project will be the one getting kanged. Like Eos, this project started with a pure AOSP base. I have been surgical in bringing in select desired resources from other teams. Synergy embraces the philosophy of having a solid build without a gapps package installed. In light of recent revelations regarding government surveillance, many people are enjoying Android without the Google Services. We want to provide a build that caters to these wise individuals. And, we feel that the open source CyanogenMod resources are the best. You will "feel" Eos in this build. The Eos spirit lives on in CFX. Always remember, it's not about team names, it's about people.
We now have a wealth of new resources to provide to our users. We have dedicated hosting in which downloading builds will be smoking fast. We have SERIOUS bandwidth. We also have a new forum in which we can provide users with tools that go beyond XDA support. However, I will continue to maintain XDA threads, of course. We have a sophisticated new ChangeLog scheme. And we now use Phabricator instead of Gerrit for project review.
Xoom users face a challenge now. Because of optimization, the build is rather large. Optimization increases the size of libraries and binaries. So, in order to get a successful Xoom build, I have to really "unbloat" the build. This is due to the Xoom having such a small system partition. And that brings us to gapps. Many of you know, CyanogenMod has made the decision to discontinue support on "non-neon" devices. The Xoom is one such device. The reason for this is mostly because Google is discontinuing support of non-neon devices as well. So, for now, I don't have a solid gapps solution. But i'll come up with something, I always do ;D
Test Builds: I should have round 1 up soon. First rounds will be no gapps and meant to simply test core functionality and hardware.
I truly hope you guys enjoy the new project. Besides, it's time to get some fresh ENERGY back in the Xoom scene anyway!
Stay tuned
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(Taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372197)
That said, welcome to the evolution of TeamEOS - CodefireX or more to say the CodefireXperiment!
Randall (bigrushdog) and me worked hard the last weeks to get the TF101 supported properly with CodefireXperiment, as we promised all devices supported by EOS will be supported by CFX, too .
I finally achieved a mostly working build yesterday, with main hardware working and I couldn't find any issues that EOS hasn't had.
I also ran some benchmarks and compared them to the latest EOS builds (the good ones, not the borked of course) with the help of @Roach2010, EOS and CodefireX team member and the original EOS on TF101 developer. We came to the conclusiion that CFX will give you a roughly estimated 10% performance boost, mostly notable for CPU and I/O performance.
So here I am, to share the first test build with the TF101 community!
Test build #1 - Download
Credits go to the original TeamEOS, and of course the new CodefireX team!
Special thanks go to @bigrushdog for helping me with TF101 bringup (mostly frameworks stuff, I really suck at that) and in general for being a nice team member who is always there for a chat, @synergye for leading the new team and bringing one HELL of optimizations to the new ROM and thus to the TF101. Thank him for the performance boost! @timduru also deserves at least a massive special thanks for assisting and contributing back in EOS times, sadly he didn't move over to CodefireX due to various reasons. However, we all know he enhanced EOS and especially the TF101 to an extend noone of us could have achieved on his own.
Tried this out this evening. Seems pretty good, but minimal, so far. Will check back again after some more work is done.
Pleasure to see you back Chris :good:
Let's test it!
Where to look for changelog, and stuff like "merged" "opened" ... as in Teamos ?
Cool!
I'm still using the last builds of Eos4 on both my Nexus7 and tf101. Both work so well I have a difficult time moving on to anything else, but i'm gonna give this a shot and see how I like it. Thanks for continuing to work on Android for us!
I wonder how long this will last.
Any screenshots?
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Have to say i forgot i still had the test build on my TF. Still going strong without a single issue to report. Hopefully get RaymanFX back with us for another stint seen as hes not allowed to move on and have a life of his own :laugh:
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Looks like it was over before it ever really got started.
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just lou said:
Looks like it was over before it ever really got started.
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Yup sad but true
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I've noticed quite a bit of development for alot of other devices from CodefireX, but I have not seen anything for the TF101 or any other Asus tablet. Have they abandoned this device line or just really slow to work on it? Timduru since returning from vacation has been a madman and has released not only multiple updates on the 4.2.2 chain but has moved the device onto a stable 4.3 ROM by himself.
Not criticizing here just curious.
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I've noticed quite a bit of development for alot of other devices from CodefireX, but I have not seen anything for the TF101 or any other Asus tablet. Have they abandoned this device line or just really slow to work on it? Timduru since returning from vacation has been a madman and has released not only multiple updates on the 4.2.2 chain but has moved the device onto a stable 4.3 ROM by himself.
Not criticizing here just curious.
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This project appears to have been abandoned. At least in terms of the TF101. Not a big deal. timduru has 4.3 fully working on the TF.
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just lou said:
This project appears to have been abandoned. At least in terms of the TF101. Not a big deal. timduru has 4.3 fully working on the TF.
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Agreed. It seems like some of us saw this coming...
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Agreed. It seems like some of us saw this coming...
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Yeah fx moved on a while ago in not sure why he comes back fur a tease then leaves again
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Yeah fx moved on a while ago in not sure why he comes back fur a tease then leaves again
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I don't know either. He abandoned all his TF projects, then comes back only to tease a new project that never materialized.
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I don't know either. He abandoned all his TF projects, then comes back only to tease a new project that never materialized.
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Yeah .. I teased 1 project on accident just because I ended up not having time to fully complete it (PAC)
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Well, they did quite a bit at one point or another for our tablets, and it was based on their own time and interest, so I'm not slamming them for moving on to other things, although I am a bit disappointed that they would make the noise of supporting it and nearly completely ignoring it (they did put out a test build).
And I agree, Timduru's builds have been phenominal, I just hope he was able to enjoy his vacation since he's been back, the boy seems to be working like a dog....er a meercat.
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Well, they did quite a bit at one point or another for our tablets, and it was based on their own time and interest, so I'm not slamming them for moving on to other things, although I am a bit disappointed that they would make the noise of supporting it and nearly completely ignoring it (they did put out a test build).
And I agree, Timduru's builds have been phenominal, I just hope he was able to enjoy his vacation since he's been back, the boy seems to be working like a dog....er a meercat.
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I do agree with you 100% .. In not slamming them or "bashing" them at all
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I do agree with you 100% .. In not slamming them or "bashing" them at all
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They did good things but it would have been nice to at least say they were not going to continue. Checking that crazy change log has been a pain.
We have to thank Tim for the work but I don't think he will be able too keep it up alone he will burn out trying. He is a great guy.
Which is timdru's most recent stable Rom ,um currently using team eos b202 with kat kernel and it's rock solid and would only change if I can get similar on 4.3,
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