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Thinking about going with Simple Mobile...

So I got my Vibrant and used t-mobile and loved the service but unfortunately I got it just before a change to pricing plans and now I have some other options. I am actually considering moving to Simple Mobile, right now they will give a 3g Unlimited talk/text/web for 50 a month (no clue data cap but I do mostly wifi at home and avg 2-3gb streaming at most). Comparing plans and coverage It looks like Simple Mobile might be a good option for me right now but I just found out about them today at the mall.
So the first thought I had was to come here and see if others have any experience with the Vibrant on their network and if so how it worked out for them. So what do you guys/gals think of them?

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Simple Mobile is really good.... its month to month so no contracts...just bring your vibrant and buy the sim card and plan and ur set. Ive been using simple mobile for about 4-5 months using the unlimited everything for $60 and had no problems once you set the APN settings. If you tend to flash roms all the time, you should download an app called APN Backup and once you set the APN you want on the phone, you can back it up for easy restore after you flash a new rom.
In MMSC replace h**p with http
Code:
APN Settings:
Name: Simple Mobile
APN: simple
Proxy: 216.155.165.050
Port: 8080
MMSC: h**p://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 216.155.165.050
MMS port: 8080
MCC: 310
MNC:260
APN type: internet + mms

Any data cap?
Sent from my T959 using XDA Premium App

Simple Mobile runs on T-Mobile's network, so you get the same coverage. They don't tell you but there's a 1GB data cap. If you go over it several times, they cut off your service.

Product F(RED) said:
Simple Mobile runs on T-Mobile's network, so you get the same coverage. They don't tell you but there's a 1GB data cap. If you go over it several times, they cut off your service.
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Wow that sucks
Sent from my T959 using XDA Premium App

So if I have gotten to where I use the data away from WiFi only on rare occasion the data cap would not be a factor. thinking I might give it a try, if i don't like it i don't have to "re-up" i guess. anyone else have anything to say about them?

If you want unlimited data, you need to go with Sprint. They're the only carrier that actually offers unlimited Data.
Also, Sprint is pushing to remove bloatware from their devices, something the other carriers won't even think of (and that's a factor for some people).

Don't even think about it.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

unknownnoob said:
Simple Mobile is really good.... its month to month so no contracts...just bring your vibrant and buy the sim card and plan and ur set. Ive been using simple mobile for about 4-5 months using the unlimited everything for $60 and had no problems once you set the APN settings. If you tend to flash roms all the time, you should download an app called APN Backup and once you set the APN you want on the phone, you can back it up for easy restore after you flash a new rom.
In MMSC replace h**p with http
Code:
APN Settings:
Name: Simple Mobile
APN: simple
Proxy: 216.155.165.050
Port: 8080
MMSC: h**p://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 216.155.165.050
MMS port: 8080
MCC: 310
MNC:260
APN type: internet + mms
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What he said... only I've only been trying it for about 2 weeks. So far I've found that T-Mobile's 3G/4G networks are juuuuust out of range of my house. The 2G speeds seem better than ATT though as long as I stay on the device and don't try any ToS violations with the laptop. The data caps don't thrill me either but as was said they all have them. I'll just have to go to Starbucks to download my Linux distros I like to play with.

Does anyone know if you gotta be unlocked for this? ??
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younix258 said:
Does anyone know if you gotta be unlocked for this? ??
Sent from a cell tower to the XDA server to you.
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Nope. Any tmobile branded phone will do.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Don't know if this was said or not, but Simple Mobile operates using tmobile's towers, which is why 4G/3G works on the phones from Tmo. Tmobile doesnt own them, unlike Boost Mobile+Sprint which are actually together.

Anybody know if I have a tmobile branded phone, will I be able to get 3g with the $50 plan?

Dattack said:
Anybody know if I have a tmobile branded phone, will I be able to get 3g with the $50 plan?
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If you have a T-Mobile branded phone or phone that supports 850/1900 MHz (both), you should get 3G. 4G (HSPA+, which is really also 3G) is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz.

I just realized that after going into the tmobile store they have a $50 plan prepaid also for unlimited (up to 2gb).

Dattack said:
I just realized that after going into the tmobile store they have a $50 plan prepaid also for unlimited (up to 2gb).
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You can go past 2GB, but they'll throttle you to EDGE speeds and sometimes slower for the rest of the billing cycle if you do.

Product F(RED) said:
You can go past 2GB, but they'll throttle you to EDGE speeds and sometimes slower for the rest of the billing cycle if you do.
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It's pretty much the same as simple mobile. I usually use only around 2gb anyways and i love the wificalling feature.

Dattack said:
It's pretty much the same as simple mobile. I usually use only around 2gb anyways and i love the wificalling feature.
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Actually I read somewhere that buried in the fine print, Simple Mobile reserves the right to terminate your number if you keep going past 1GB of data a month.

I was with simple mobile for two months and it was painful. I just loved being threatened every day to have my account suspended because I hit the 2gb limit in the last week of both my months. Texts from them everyday. I don't teather either.
Plus I had to hack the mms apk to have the user agent changed for it to work. They never tell you they block it without the hack. They just keep you trying same settings over and over. Did the hack and default apn worked work mms immediately.
I am with t mobile prepaid and much happier. More data I barely even get close to capping and better customer service.
Simple mobile didn't even care to try keep me when I had then verify my account info so I could do a transfer. They asked me why I wanted to verify it. Stop I told them
With calling mart discounts I only pay 4-5 bucks more. At most.

[Q] Nexus 4, only getting 0.12mbps down and 0.01 up...

I know, not another thread like this, damn noob, anyway.
Just got a Neus 4 and decided to go with ATT Straight Talk as they seemed to have the best coverage for my area, (62946 zip code), I got a micro im card from ST and followed the instructions and APN settings and the most I've been able to get in my home area was 0.15mbps down. I can hardly surf the net and can't send MMS half the time. I've not rooted don't really see a need to with this phone. Here are my APN settings.
APN: att.mvno
Proxy: not set
Port: not set
Username: not set
Password: not set
Server: not set
MMSC: http:mmsc:cingular.com
MMS Proxy: 66.209.11.33
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
The rest are unchanged.
I thought about going T-Mobile but they don't have coverage according to the maps anyway and I don't know enough about Net10, all I know is that these speeds arent acceptable and I'm not sure if its me or my network of choice. Any help would be appreciated or point me in the right direction.

Well that's about right for EDGE
HSUPA is 5.76mbps
HSDPA is 42.0mbps (theoretically)
EDGE Is around 100-150kbps
Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.67 GHz on Stock 4.2.2

IRX120 said:
Well that's about right for EDGE
HSUPA is 5.76mbps
HSDPA is 42.0mbps (theoretically)
EDGE Is around 100-150kbps
Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.67 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
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I just went back to the ATT coverage map, i am in the 2G/Edge area, I feel so stupid. I looked at voice are and didn't click the data side. Guess I'll try Net10 but their coverage map is a vague for this area, aren't they basiclly ATT? So really it doesnt matter who I use for GSM in my area it seems.
Thank you sir.

Check out the coverage with T-Mobile, http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx/
Shows no coverage there, so you are best with the AT&T option for StraightTalk.

jimmyjoebob said:
Check out the coverage with T-Mobile,
Shows no coverage there, so you are best with the AT&T option for StraightTalk.
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Yeah I knew T-Mobile sucked in this area from having them through a work provided phone, we soon switched over to Verizon. Maybe with the ATT buyout of Alltel in our state our signal will improve in time. I wont hold my breath though.

Straight talk n4

Anyone using att/straight talk ?
What are your APN settings ?
My data is unbearable Slow!
I have to use WiFi to do anything!
On my old HTC inspire I avg 5-7down...
This is in the USA Kansas area
Sent from my Nexus 4

Are you sure you have 4G (HSPA+) or even 3G AT&T service for that matter in your area? A lot of rural areas are only 2G on AT&T's network. And a word of advice on ST AT&T running a lot of speedtests in one day will cause you to go over their daily limit resulting in you getting throttled down to 2G speeds for the reminder of your month. The daily limit is somewhere between 50 and 100 MB and one speedtest alone can use up to 12MB. People also report being throttled after hitting 1.5GB of usage in a month.
Edit: sorry just saw the H in your picture so it would appear you might be throttled by AT&T if your settings are right. Not sure if the H would still show up if your throttled as I've never had it happen to me. So not really sure.
Here are the APN settings I use
Name: StraightTalk
APN: att.mvno
Proxy: Not set
Port: 80
Username: Not set
Password: Not set
Server: Not set
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMSC proxy: 66.209.11.33
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication Type: Not set
APN type: Not set
APN protocol: IPv4
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
APN enable/disable: APN enabled (tick mark checked but grayed out anyways)
Bearer: Unspecified

myturbo1 said:
Anyone using att/straight talk ?
What are your APN settings ?
My data is unbearable Slow!
I have to use WiFi to do anything!
On my old HTC inspire I avg 5-7down...
This is in the USA Kansas area
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Are you on AT&T SIM, or T-Mobile SIM?
First, I would go to APN settings and try "Reset to defaults" from the options menu.
If you still have issues check the settings against http://www.straighttalksim.com/support.php #4 Update Settings.
Lastly, check one of the many threads already posted in the Nexus 4 General forms;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120957

Yep have the same settings.
Att yes said that in first post... Also said what speeds I avg on last phone . in same exact area
Sent from my Nexus 4

myturbo1 said:
Yep have the same settings.
Att yes said that in first post... Also said what speeds I avg on last phone . in same exact area
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Then I would think you're being throttled.

That's horrible then. I've only used a total of 663Mb of data (3g/4g) .. Use WiFi mostly
I think I need to contact straight talk then.
I would use T-Mobile Sim . but about 4yrs ago I had T-Mobile. & It sucked in my area
Sent from my Nexus 4

I have confirmed calls from straight talk.
I am throttled to 0.26 MBS (avg)
They are now throttling after 1gb or a unsaid amount per day.
Paying your bill will not lift this.
Supposedly letting your service expire. Then paying your bill will lift the throttle until the limit is hit.
I am getting a T-Mobile Sim to try now.
Sent from my Nexus 4

Just for a call threatening to shut off my service.
This is fn bullshish !
Sent from my Nexus 4

i think AT&T has been tightening the reigns for their MVNOs. pretty much all of the ones that offered unlimited are now suddenly limited.

I told straight talk they need to send me a T-Mobile sim card for free. Lol
If they don't. I will be dropping my service!
Sent from my Nexus 4

I dumped ST and went with AT&T's own GoPhone plan for $50 a month. Its only 1 GB of data a month but at least I know the limit and its not some arbitrary number. Plus I was afraid of losing my phone number which I ported to ST for violating some obscure rule of theirs like streaming video. Also their customer service is abysmal to say the least. Would love to go to T-Mobile but it sucks everywhere in Michigan and their new LTE ain't going to fix that as the state is 99% rural and will never get it let alone HSPA.

is there a way to bypass throttle?
So I have seen in some threads that turning data on and off as well as airplane mode tricks the system. But it does not work for me. Any one know how to do this and how can I stop them from knowing how much data I'm using?

Get T-Mobile Truly Unlimited
30gb this month so far and still getting 14mbps
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Lol nice..
Ajay note their is no way to "trick the system"
Your just sol
Sent from my Nexus 4

kzoodroid said:
I dumped ST and went with AT&T's own GoPhone plan for $50 a month. Its only 1 GB of data a month but at least I know the limit and its not some arbitrary number. Plus I was afraid of losing my phone number which I ported to ST for violating some obscure rule of theirs like streaming video. Also their customer service is abysmal to say the least. Would love to go to T-Mobile but it sucks everywhere in Michigan and their new LTE ain't going to fix that as the state is 99% rural and will never get it let alone HSPA.
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i was looking into this. is there a way to sign up for the gophone online at the $50 rate ($25 monthly plan + $25 1GB data)?
if not, how would i go about arranging this?

After allot of calls & me complaining
Sent from my Nexus 4

[Q] INSANELY slow AT&T speeds.. (4kbs down)

I got my Nexus 4 last week and used my nano sim from my iPhone 5 using a adapter. I was getting around 1-2Meg down on most speed test.. Sometimes I would get 5-7Meg. However, lately it has been around 800kbs. I took my phone into AT&T and they didn't really know what was going on or had anything to say.. They gave me a MicroSim and changed my phone from "SkyRocket" to "Nexus 4" in the system. It seems after that.. that is when I can't get above 70K down on speed test. Any idea what I can try to do?
My APN settings are,
Name: AT&T HSPA+ (this can be whatever you like)
APN: phone
mmsc: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
mms proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port: 80
APN type: default,supl,mms,hipri

ATT probably has your data partitioned incorrectly. YOu are no longer on an "4g" plan. There is a thread in either this section or general section on specific ATT issues. Would take a look at that thread.
hope that helps
edit here is the link. i would suspect when they gave you the new card and updated your device in their system is when it got worse for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2139537

Thanks.. I just got off the phone with FOUR different ATT people and still can't get anything work.. none of them have even heard of a Nexus 4.. I am cancelling my contract and going to T-Mobile..

lol it's funny how none of them heard of the nexus 4. Ive applied so many times and they never hired me. -.-. W.e Im with solavei now.
I thought this issue would be an APN thing. Guess not. Now one thing to look at is Coverage. Hopefully you'll be happy.
If you want, Join solavei. We're a Tmobile MVNO with some differences. We have 4GB HSPA+ speeds and the rest is EDGE (compared to many who offer 2GB of HSPA+) and LTE APN is in the works. Of course unlimited talk and text. And another thing we have is conditional call forwarding which many other MVNOs dont have and that allows your calls to be forwarded. That allows me to use Youmail Visual Voicemail or Google voice for others. All for $49 + Taxes or free if you want.
Yes we are MLM but you don't have to do it if you dont want to.
What ever you choose, Hope you are satisfied

[Q] Nexus 4 on AT&T $50 Unlimited GoPhone?

I have had a Nexus 4 since it first went on sale, and have used it on various carriers. First, I used Straight Talk (AT&T), but after being throttled to barely-dial-up speeds, I switched to the $30 unlimited text, data, 100min T-Mobile plan. Bad Idea. After switching, i was unable to access full T-Mobile '4G' speed, because apparently it is not available in my area, even though it is advertised as such. I get good data speeds for my area, and the service is okay. The trouble begins when i leave the area, and it doesn't end until i come back. There is absolutely no service, only roaming.
I have ordered an AT&T MicroSim, and am wondering how i would be able to activate the $50 Unlimited GoPhone (Dumb Phone) plan using my Nexus 4.
I know they offer a smartphone plan for $25 with 250mins and unlimited texting, with the option to add data for up to $25/1G, but to be honest I use way too much data for any addon option to be feasible. If it requires using less data to make the $50 unlimited option work, that is fine.
I have an Lg Vu (Dumb Phone) and a Samsung Note I i can use for IMEIs and activation, but am wondering exactly how to do it.
My Micro Sim will arrive within a week, so hopefully I can activate it when i receive it.
Thanks in advance!
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AustinRawr said:
I have had a Nexus 4 since it first went on sale, and have used it on various carriers. First, I used Straight Talk (AT&T), but after being throttled to barely-dial-up speeds, I switched to the $30 unlimited text, data, 100min T-Mobile plan. Bad Idea. After switching, i was unable to access full T-Mobile '4G' speed, because apparently it is not available in my area, even though it is advertised as such. I get good data speeds for my area, and the service is okay. The trouble begins when i leave the area, and it doesn't end until i come back. There is absolutely no service, only roaming.
I have ordered an AT&T MicroSim, and am wondering how i would be able to activate the $50 Unlimited GoPhone (Dumb Phone) plan using my Nexus 4.
I know they offer a smartphone plan for $25 with 250mins and unlimited texting, with the option to add data for up to $25/1G, but to be honest I use way too much data for any addon option to be feasible. If it requires using less data to make the $50 unlimited option work, that is fine.
I have an Lg Vu (Dumb Phone) and a Samsung Note I i can use for IMEIs and activation, but am wondering exactly how to do it.
My Micro Sim will arrive within a week, so hopefully I can activate it when i receive it.
Thanks in advance!
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AT&T is extremely strict about the smartphone vs dumbphone plans. I doubt there is a way to get it to work. You likely will have to go with the smartphone plan. If you would like you can mess around with the settings or just activate the plan using a dumbphone and switch the SIM card over after activation.

Might as well go with StraightTalk on T-Mobile's network.

AustinRawr said:
I have had a Nexus 4 since it first went on sale, and have used it on various carriers. First, I used Straight Talk (AT&T), but after being throttled to barely-dial-up speeds, I switched to the $30 unlimited text, data, 100min T-Mobile plan. Bad Idea. After switching, i was unable to access full T-Mobile '4G' speed, because apparently it is not available in my area, even though it is advertised as such. I get good data speeds for my area, and the service is okay. The trouble begins when i leave the area, and it doesn't end until i come back. There is absolutely no service, only roaming.
I have ordered an AT&T MicroSim, and am wondering how i would be able to activate the $50 Unlimited GoPhone (Dumb Phone) plan using my Nexus 4.
I know they offer a smartphone plan for $25 with 250mins and unlimited texting, with the option to add data for up to $25/1G, but to be honest I use way too much data for any addon option to be feasible. If it requires using less data to make the $50 unlimited option work, that is fine.
I have an Lg Vu (Dumb Phone) and a Samsung Note I i can use for IMEIs and activation, but am wondering exactly how to do it.
My Micro Sim will arrive within a week, so hopefully I can activate it when i receive it.
Thanks in advance!
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There are quite a few people using the Nexus 4 on AT&T's $50 GoPhone plan without any issues. You can either activate it on-line or go into an AT&T store and have them activate it for you which is what I did. No need to use another phones IMEI as the Nexus 4 isn't a 4G phone as defined by AT&T (they mean LTE) and can use the GoPhone plans. Don't let a store rep or CSR tell you differently as they will try and up sell you into a more expensive plan saying the phones not supported which is a lie.
And 1 GB of data is the max you can get with this plan. Not sure if you can add more data in a month if you go over or if your stuck paying the $0.05/Kb. Maybe they just cut your data off but I doubt that.
And when you renew your package every month if you use the Kiosk in the AT&T store you pay just a straight $50, no taxes or fees.

scream4cheese said:
Might as well go with StraightTalk on T-Mobile's network.
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I have T-Mobile now. It sucks. And I switched from Att on straight talk because of the low(1-1.5G) throttle limit.

kzoodroid said:
There are quite a few people using the Nexus 4 on AT&T's $50 GoPhone plan without any issues. You can either activate it on-line or go into an AT&T store and have them activate it for you which is what I did. No need to use another phones IMEI as the Nexus 4 isn't a 4G phone as defined by AT&T (they mean LTE) and can use the GoPhone plans. Don't let a store rep or CSR tell you differently as they will try and up sell you into a more expensive plan saying the phones not supported which is a lie.
And 1 GB of data is the max you can get with this plan. Not sure if you can add more data in a month if you go over or if your stuck paying the $0.05/Kb. Maybe they just cut your data off but I doubt that.
And when you renew your package every month if you use the Kiosk in the AT&T store you pay just a straight $50, no taxes or fees.
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They are using the $50 Unlimited plan for dumb phones? What APN do they use? I've heard the data doesn't work without the right settings.

AustinRawr said:
They are using the $50 Unlimited plan for dumb phones? What APN do they use? I've heard the data doesn't work without the right settings.
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I used the default AT&T APN that was on the phone when I put the microsim in, ATT WAP (wap.cingular). Its not a dumb phone plan its a 3G/HSPA+ smartphone plan, I get HSPA+15 speeds in my area. AT&T reps will tell you the plan doesn't support 4G phones and what they mean is LTE phones not HSPA+ phones.
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Here is another GoPhone thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195150&highlight=gophone
APN
Name: ATT WAP
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
Port: 80
Username: not set
Password: not set
Server: cingulargprs.com
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com/
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: not set
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication Type: not set
APN Type: default, supl, mms
APN Protocol: IPv4
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4
APN enable/disable: APN enable checked but line is grayed out
Bearer: unspecified

AustinRawr said:
They are using the $50 Unlimited plan for dumb phones? What APN do they use? I've heard the data doesn't work without the right settings.
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no. the one you are talking about is 50$, everything unlimited? im pretty sure the one kzoo is talking about, and the one i was also using, is 25$ for 250 minutes and unlimited txts. then you have to buy a data package, I had one for 25$ for 1 GB. so.... 250mins, unlimited txts, 1GB = 50$. att doesnt like to advertise this because in their gophone brocure, they talk about a smartphone plan for 65$, saying you need it for a smart phone. then if you look at the little asterisk about the 25$ plan, it says you need a data package for it to work and it also says it works with a smartphone. almost like false advertising to me, i would like to beat their execs heads against concrete along with verizons.

AustinRawr said:
They are using the $50 Unlimited plan for dumb phones? What APN do they use? I've heard the data doesn't work without the right settings.
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kzoodroid said:
I used the default AT&T APN that was on the phone when I put the microsim in, ATT WAP (wap.cingular). Its not a dumb phone plan its a 3G/HSPA+ smartphone plan, I get HSPA+15 speeds in my area. AT&T reps will tell you the plan doesn't support 4G phones and what they mean is LTE phones not HSPA+ phones.
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Here is another GoPhone thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195150&highlight=gophone
APN
Name: ATT WAP
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
Port: 80
Username: not set
Password: not set
Server: cingulargprs.com
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com/
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: not set
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication Type: not set
APN Type: default, supl, mms
APN Protocol: IPv4
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4
APN enable/disable: APN enable checked but line is grayed out
Bearer: unspecified
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Let me help clear this up. OP, I believe you are referring to their $50 unlimited data and minutes plan for feature phones? I have heard of people getting that to work with their N4, but since it is for feature phones, the data is usually throttled at 2G speeds. If you aren't happy with being throttled on Straight Talk after a gig, then this is worse as it's right away.
What I'm doing is using their $25 plan with 250 minutes and adding a gig of data for another $25, coming to a total of $50/month (actually, kzoodroid helped me set that up for myself in another thread, thanks kzoodroid!). I read that any add-on plans wouldn't work for you because you use a lot of data so that might not work for you.
What I would recommend, and what I'd do if I ever found that a gig wasn't enough for me, is go post-paid. I was quoted around $70/mo for like 400 minutes and 3 gigs of data on their post-paid network. You don't have to sign a contract to go post-paid btw. That is also good because during peak hours where they need to throttle people, they tend to favor post-paid so you most likely will never be throttled. That isn't a problem in my area as I live in a relatively sparsely populated area.