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I've had HTC/XDA's for the past 7 years, starting with the basic XDA through to the XDA2, XDA2s, XDA Exec and currently the XDA Hermes...but they just ain't that cool anymore - I used to enjoy using them, they were original and the OS was swish but now they're slow, cumbersome and just not that funky nor impressive - its a rickety old OS with nothing to get excited about.
Until Microsoft do something interesting with PocketPC I don't think I'll returning for a while, however I'd just like some opinions on the phones to which I'm considering a move to...
My likes...
- Touchscreen ideally (Nokia loses here)
- Navigation capabilities (either built in or addon)
- Good quality camera, quick to fireup/use (unlike PocketPC!!)
- Proper Keyboard (nice but not necessary)
- Ability to use POP3 email practically without hard work
Based on the majority of the above, I am considering these phones...
- Samsung F700 (beautiful looking, nice interface)
- Apple IPhone
- Nokia N95 8Gb
Have I missed anything worth considering, if so what are you recommendations?
Currently with Vodafone and have been offered the F700/N95 for free, 500 minutes, Stop the Clock (free after 3 minutes for an hour), 250 txt's for £30 p/m.
I am put off PocketPC so with the greatest of respect, don't bother replying if its an anti-anything-else style response.
Appreciate your views/opinions, particularly from anyone actually using/with experience of any of the above phones.
I had my hands on the N95 and its awesome. The iPhone is the iPhone, awesome os and navigation, but ultimately i see a bunch of chicks with them so no. Samsung looks promising but will probably be way too expensive straight off unless carrier subsidised. N95 wins, it has GPS, a snappy os, great music player, and tons of software available. Good luck in your choice!
Thanks for your reply mate, the N95 does look appealing but what about the keyboard? Is it genuinely usable on a day-to-day basis? Heard comments that its too small?
Cheers, Ash
I know the iPhone is the rage for alot of folks........but even so...Apple will try to make it grow and advance without end.
Example is the release of the developer package.........I think the iPhone, atleast with the coming introduction of then next version, would be my next choice...........for the resale if nothing else.
My little Hermes has held it's value pretty well too!
Good Luck and stay in touch.
chipsxj said:
I know the iPhone is the rage for alot of folks........but even so...Apple will try to make it grow and advance without end.
Example is the release of the developer package.........I think the iPhone, atleast with the coming introduction of then next version, would be my next choice...........for the resale if nothing else.
My little Hermes has held it's value pretty well too!
Good Luck and stay in touch.
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Yeah, I agree with your sentiments, the IPhone 2 I believe it worth waiting for, I don't think I'd invest my pennies in the current release, its just not heavily featured enough, although the firmware upgrades are coming out thick and fast!! Its now got a GPS like technology!! Very impressive!
...but I'm not interested in making my Hermes act like something far superior, I'm just bored of its tired, slow and clunky interface - need something refreshing that allows me to enjoy using my phone, and enabling me to use it properly without having to wait for it to wakeup from standby, wait for the camera to get its act together etc!
Thanks for your comments. Anyone any experience with the Samsung? It looks smart! Has good spec too!
ashleyhall said:
Its now got a GPS like technology!! Very impressive!
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What do you consider a "GPS like technology" - the same thing GoogleMaps does?
to be honest,
You are looking for the
"Sony Ericsson p1i"
http://www.smarthome.com/96001.html
It meets all of your specifications, except it has a suretype keyboard. It has 2 letters to a key, instead of a normal keyboard, or a normal keypad with 3 letters to a key. It's actually the best keyboard to have once one gets used to it.
Key features:
Touch screen
WiFi
Smartphone capability
Not sure on GPS/location.
awesome 3.2 megapixel camera.
I think you'll like it.
vr24 said:
What do you consider a "GPS like technology" - the same thing GoogleMaps does?
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Well, similar in the sense that it doesn't use a traditional GPS utilising Satellites, instead it uses GSM triangulation, still its an impressive addon for a firmware update. Lets face it, when did the last Hermes firmware update (from an official provider, not cooked ROMs) enhance our functionality to that extent!!
Sirgatory said:
to be honest,
You are looking for the
"Sony Ericsson p1i"
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Thanks for the pointer, does look nice but I'm a little put off Sony's after seeing/playing for a while with the P900 and P910 - very large, clunky and easily broken phones with a rather unimpressive slow interface - have things improved since then?
not sure if that's the case any more but many sonyE owners complain about as poor charging connectors as htc had pre extMiniUsb
also suspct sonyE only support their own odd flashCard std.
hope the iphone2 got microSd
Rudegar said:
not sure if that's the case any more but many sonyE owners complain about as poor charging connectors as htc had pre extMiniUsb
also suspct sonyE only support their own odd flashCard std.
hope the iphone2 got microSd
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Just watched a video showing the SonyE's interface, looks just like the old P900, slow and not very jumpy to respond.
Think I'll keep looking, what other nice phones are out there right now?
Cheers, Ash
The only one out of your list I would consider is the iPhone.
Some people are sentimental about the devices they use, they deveop a love for it and whenever something clearly better comes out they make a whole lot of excuses defending their old device. While I've loved my Hermes very much, I'm not sentimental, I'm progressive. Within financial reason, I will go with whatever the current-day best device/platform is.
The iPhone has in no way been that, not so far. Unti l I can have EVERY little excellent WM app I use, or an equally good iealternative on the iPhone platform, the iPhone is a waste of money for me. Everything else of course is brilliant, but the No. 1 thing that turns me on phones is the abilty to have multilingual dictionaries on it, an audio recorder, an advanced metronome app (yes, musician here!), access to network mapped drives, a GOOD calendar app (iPhone's is not good enough for me, try Agenda One), ebooks and pocket bible, a scientific calendar (to some people that would be VERY useful), TCPMP (enough said), and ALL the tweaking to my heart's content.
The release of the SDK is what excites (and at the same time worries) me. I'm just wondering how Mr. "closed" and "controlling my devices" Steve Jobs is going to handle the freedom with iPhone that's about to be unleashed.
I'm also interested in what Microsoft is going to do for WM7 in reaction. Are they just going to bloat it up with vista-like "wow"-ness (thereby slowing it to a grinding halt) or are they going to actually make it a powerful platform and compete with the desktop-class iPhone platform. The browser situation STILL sucks after all these years.
And how about Google's android? Will there be a following for that, enough to bring out great apps? If so, AND if it can be employed on my Hermes, I'll stick it out to try that.
So what I love about WM6, is not actually the OS itself. I hate the OS. But all these wonderful developers have made my WM phone what it is, and outweighed its anoying slowness.
Also one single feature which would stop me from going to iPhone, is input. I LOVE TouchPal, try the free edition or professional trial, it's AMAZING. FAR superior to that horrible iPhone keyboard. And the great thing is, it's NOT complicated, only took me half-an-hour to learn. They've done some incredible innovation there. So, will Apple allow third-party developers to make their own keyboards for iPhone? +, will there be a way to sync to my outlook?
I'll wait and see...
Edit: oh yeah, there's also MicroSD. 12GB just got announced, and the SDHC spec can go up to 32GB. That's value being reinvested into my Hermes. There's all these little things that are BIG things in my daily phone experience, and they must all be ticked in the checklist before considering moving.
I know what you mean about moving on. My Wizard is barely living (no SIM card most of the time, still an OK PDA), and I really miss using a touchscreen phone now. I would have bought a Kaiser, but after seeing all of the issues it has, no way. I think the iPhone still looks good, even though Jobs wants to lock everything down...but then again, that didn't stop me here, why would it stop me now?
frenchglen said:
While I've loved my Hermes very much, I'm not sentimental, I'm progressive. Within financial reason, I will go with whatever the current-day best device/platform is.
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Very well put, I'm fully agreeing with you on that and I am pleased that the 'Anti-Anything-Other-Than-Hermes' police haven't yet bothered to respond.
The TouchPal system looks excellent but I simply can't imagine it running at the pace that it does via the video's I've watched on my own Hermes - The IPhone I'm tempted by but not until its next reincarnation, which judging by the speed at which Apple plough up new devices, I don't think I'll be waiting long.
Another phone I'm now considering is..
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...-crowd-preps-m4650-windows-mobile-touchphone/
...although at the moment I know very little about it.
I guess I'll keep looking!
Just to update you all - went into several stores to play with various new Mobile Phones, tried the Samsung F700 - VERY disappointed, tried the Nokia N95 - HORRIBLE piece of cheap tack. Finally, got informed of the new Vodafone 1615 (KAISER) - what a GREAT bit of kit, yes its another WM machine, the natural progression from the 1605 (Hermes) but its actually nice.
Doesn't seem any faster BUT it has lots more RAM, built in GPS (YAY no more Bluetooth GPS!) and a nice tilting screen!!
Got an amazing tariff agreed and expecting delivery of the new handset tomorrow!!!!
Will keep you updated on my progress with it!
Cheers, Ash
Just a quick comment on the N95, I've read (don't have a link to hand currently, sorry) that a lot of users are having problems with the onboard GPS. aparently the chip/antenna is situated on the back/bottom of the handset which, for obvious reasons, affects the ability to get a fix on your position...
Hi,
This is a 1.5 month feedback
Just a post to share my experience, and make the point on android. Sorry for my bad english.
Ok, first, i'm a big gadget fan, not specially lots of money, but ebay is my friend =)
Long time ago i had some phones, like nokia 3210, nokia 8210, ericson, sony dx2000 (one of the best i ever had), then nokia again, then sony ericson etc... then one day i get an iphone 2G.
Then wow ! that's a cool phone,
i discover applications (was allready some on nokia before, but it was really hard to install).
then i get a 3G one, then a 3GS, i use itunes, itunes is cool, just download music (i like to pay my music, my right).
Then i was totally apple addict, also buy a mac book pro 17 (never use it because of the keyboard, too different of a pc one), also an imac27, resell because not enought connexions ... so a mac addict.
Then came the iphone 4. of course i take it !
and at this time the u-turn began. First, i was tired by apple position, like, i choose for you what you can do (eg : flash player).
Then the probleme of antenna, then the problem of distance sensor, trust me, when you call more than 4 hours a day, this problems becemes very quickly an obsession.
So i began to find an alternative. here comes android !
First i decided to try to install it on the iphone 4 (stupid idea), never forget you have no other buttons than the home one, but and that's the big point, there is no way to do this, purhaps it change ?
So android, i was unhappy my iphone, so good position to change.
So, got a HTC desire. Begin to use it, in 2.1, not very satisfy, music is complicated, the keyboard is not so good as the iphone one, and the battery life is a junk.
I decide to take back my iphone.
My wife see that, and take the desire, and begin to use it, and she said : Wow that phone is different the one my friends have ! i want it, so she get it.
Seeing my wife using it, i began an obsession for android, trying to find the right one.
So, i get a galaxy S. cool screen, but, after an iphone 4, you think you have a children game in hands (too plastique). Also, missed the search button.
Also the f***ing power button on the right insteed of the top, thats stupid, but after 15 years of top button, you dont understand why it is on right.
Another think, that cool phone has also a problem ! i read xda, and see all the cool thinks the nexus one owners can doo, but not the galaxy s.
So i think, ok, you have a right phone, but i will be never up to date.
So : exit galaxy s, and buy a nexus one.
Hm, was a good decision ? not sure.
Ok i got it, (both indeed, the amoled version first and the slcd version, error of the seller).
Is that phone the dreaming phone, yes and not.
You can play with it, flashing the roms, trying cool stuff, (thanks to xda), but,
The screen is absolutly not readeable in sun (compare to iphone 4)
The battery life is a joke. Its the first time i'm afraid about my battery life, will the phone stay on before i came back home or in office ?
The keyboard is hard to use (my fault, i'm iphone formatted now)
The screen touch is rubish
The music is still complicated.
I have try, cynogen, nxsense,miui and FRF91/FRG83 (thanks to Geo411m) which with nxsense are the best for me at that time.
nxsense was cool, but 1.19 was catastrophic for me, and i decided to switch toFRF91/FRG83 .
So the moral of the story.
I think nexus one is the good phone for now, because i wait for the android 3.0, in which i place all my hopes,
All the roms have cool thinks, but there is no rom with, the cool sense thinks, the speed of FRG83, the tools of cynanogen etc...
Compare to my iphone, i'have stop loosing time playing with stupid apps, but now i'm loosing time installings roms, resynchronising exchange etc.
Concerning ANdroid, its a cool system, i'm feeling very free compare to iOs, i can try thinks, custumise thinks etc.
The way of doings the contacts, calandars synchro is cool. I think, android is better for doing business, all the network tools you need.
The applications begin to be better and better, still no itunes on it but i hope that will come.
Will i change the phone ? Hm, the new desire sounds good, but, i want a phone up to date, so, no keep the N1.
But all depending of android 3.0. if its not cool, i think i will take back my iphone.
for the moment 2.2 has still some problems :
->For french Orange users, the visual voice mail, which is very practicle, is not working well on android, campared to iphone.
->The keyboard, for me is slower, how many time i press home button insteed of space bar.
->There is no itunes, ok, i will not pay again all my sounds, and also not convert all my sounds for android, do want itunes.
->The battery life ? will 3.0 solve that ? not sure...
-> general speed feeling, iphone 4 was really smooth, i get lots of lags using android, feel more i use it, more its slow, after rebooting, its better.
-> phone application is missing some tools, the buttons are not well placed, i prefere like the iphone, on the bottom on the window.
->Another stupid think, its more easyer to make a call during driving my car with the iphone, more dangerous with the android
The very good points :
-> u get the last update very quickly
->u can developp what you want, and there noone who decide if its good or bad (not like appstore)
->No special connector, just micro usb
->1000s options and setup, you can personalise your phone like you want.
-> big screen, i discovered that reading news or surfing on internet is cool with
android.
-> I will never buy again a musick doc with a physical connector, next one will be bluetouth, then i will be abble to use all type of machines (not like my f***ing iphone one, that i can no more use)
Wow the color trackball is very very cool, i think i can't no more have a phone without it (just the color) i don't use the trackball for other think than wake up the phone
-> i like the office dock of nexus one, but i realized that it will only work with it...
So, do you think android 3.0 will come shortly ?
will it be very better in general apps, like dialer, contacts and calandar ?
I think to continue on android, i will need a nexus two, if there is no, which phone will be the best ?
Do you think samsung will do well designed phone ?
Just the end of that story, hope that will help people that hesitate to make the jump.
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CR1
odd, My battery will always get through the day, and i use it constantly (heavy user).
For voicemail try using google voice instead
Try another keyboard there are a lot to chose from
Also be careful of random programs eating too much power.
Android 3.0 or Gingerbread, is rumored to be coming by the end of the year. So I'm expecting to have it on my nexus by early next year for sure
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Also if you bought the unit used you might want to get a new battery for it and see if that helps. Who knows what the previous owner did to the battery.
Battery, Display
First source of power consumption is display, set it to auto, I don't have problem reading it under sunlight, when I put it on max.
For battery, I have the desk dock and car dock, use the battery information setting to see which part of your phone eat power, but mostly if you use GPS or Display on Max, it will drain your battery dramatically.
You will get use to sense-keys on the button, I don't have any problem with them right now. the touch screen is sucks, I agree with you, but with all cool stuff I have, I will never change my N1 for an iPhone.
Hi all,
Would anyone who have used both platforms tell me the UX on both? I am surely a nokia fan and a maemo fan more so..(pls dont start flaming on this point.. i am sure many of u ppl wud be from a nokia background and honestly its the only brand around here that used to and still gets prompt service and repairs) Just that its reaching the end of the life cycle is giving me worries.
I am new to the android experience and have gone thru various forums, blogs and asked the same question there too... before i make a final decision, i though i would ask the developers community of android too...the reason i am posting in the samsung galaxy s forum is coz if i am getting an android it would be this one, none of the other phones impress me as this does...
So, what do you ppl think? Ive seen the galaxy s interface personally and wasnt able to see a task manager/switcher as traditional OS built phones have(symbian ones if u may... ) Thats one big turn down for me.
The plus points ive noticed in galaxy s are :-
1. Screen Quality...
2. Updates all the time... (Gingerbread.... )
3. Better Hardware... (best on any mobile phone sold in india)
4. Battery Life ( maybe arguable as some ppl still think both kinda do the same..)
5. Apps apps apps.... everywhere.....(also all the apps that i thought were for symbian territory are getting android versions which means its gonna be huge in later future even more than how it is now... opera mobile, skyfire...)
6. HD
The downs (when compared with maemo and against my convenience) that ive noticed are :-
1. No real multitasking... (user selects what to do.. which application to close and when...)
2. Lack of task switcher/manager as i have mentioned...
3. No camera cover or flash
4. Glossy finish (big turn down..)
Among this the multitasking part is ma biggest let down... I wish there was some way around it...
So... based on what i mentioned what would be your suggestions?
Mods can move/delete this thread if found inappropriate. As i mentioned, i posted in Galaxy S thread coz i wanted to know specifically about this device.. All samsung lovers... Ive got nothing against u.. just expressing my findings and opinions which can be corrected by anyone if found wrong... Pls be gentle..... Folks who have used both platforms are welcome to share their views....
Hey man. I've spent many years supporting and buying strictly Nokia devices, but over the years I realized I was paying top of the line prices for phones that simply fell short.
My most recent phone was the e51 which I got to replace a defective e66.
Android has task switching, task managers, and even different ways of running apps (system processes and general). The way to access task switching is to long press on the hardware home button. At least that's the case on the i9000m.
There are many tools on the market which let you kill even the processes hidden from this general view.
Now as for your choice of phone. I personally love the SGS, but a lot of people have problems with it. I left Nokia after a decade due to their terrible customer service in north america, and due to the state of the symbian OS.
The SGS has some issues you may be unaware if though. The GPS is a real problem, and wile it may not affect every unit, compared top Nokia's (and other) GPS units it falls short. The other thing are the updates. So far Samsung has been lagging behind other companies with updates, and there's no guarantee of gingerbread ever coming to the SGS, partly sure to the limited RAM. They've also made some questionable choices, like RFS and TouchWiz, though the latter isn't the worst among androids.
All in all I love this phone. If this post seems critical it's only to bring issues to your attention. You can assume that anything I didn't mention is great with this phone. Hope that helped.
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lithicus said:
Hey man. I've spent many years supporting and buying strictly Nokia devices, but over the years I realized I was paying top of the line prices for phones that simply fell short.
My most recent phone was the e51 which I got to replace a defective e66.
Android has task switching, task managers, and even different ways of running apps (system processes and general). The way to access task switching is to long press on the hardware home button. At least that's the case on the i9000m.
There are many tools on the market which let you kill even the processes hidden from this general view.
Now as for your choice of phone. I personally love the SGS, but a lot of people have problems with it. I left Nokia after a decade due to their terrible customer service in north america, and due to the state of the symbian OS.
The SGS has some issues you may be unaware if though. The GPS is a real problem, and wile it may not affect every unit, compared top Nokia's (and other) GPS units it falls short. The other thing are the updates. So far Samsung has been lagging behind other companies with updates, and there's no guarantee of gingerbread ever coming to the SGS, partly sure to the limited RAM. They've also made some questionable choices, like RFS and TouchWiz, though the latter isn't the worst among androids.
All in all I love this phone. If this post seems critical it's only to bring issues to your attention. You can assume that anything I didn't mention is great with this phone. Hope that helped.
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Thanks for ur reply... Does that mean holding the home button brings up a list of applications from which u can easily select to switch between various ones? i know multitasking doesnt work as it does on nokia... But is there a way to switch and maybe close the apps from the long press option??
Also.. TouchWize is the UI right? But i am not sure what RFS is...
The SGS does true multitasking. It will run multiple apps and will close the ones that are least used if it needs memory or processor power automatically so yes, you can switch between live apps.
That said I am a long term Communicator user and if Nokia had assured me of a updated replacement I would still be there. Don't get me wrong I love my SGS but I am a business user and the E90 was a business focussed smart phone. Given the finance to get one I would be very tempted to go to the E7 or N9 when they are released. The N9 is rumoured to be running Maemo.
TouchWiz is the modified UI, while RFS is the file system. The latter is the cause of most of the lag people complain about, while the former is likely the cause of the remaining slowdown.
And as has been said, android does true multitasking. It's a great phone experience, as good as anything I ever got from the Nokia line of e# devices, though I do miss having hardware buttons for blind dialing (that's what you lose with any touchscreen phone)
Oh and sorry about the tons of typos in the previous post.
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Android multitasking works differently. It's not a simple system that simply leaves an app running as you go to another. Each app is programmed how to react to different events, they can save their state so even if they are shut down due to low memory they will return to their previous state when opened.
If they need to do something in the background they will launch a service so that the whole program isn't required to stay in memory, and it will launch when required.
Not too easy to explain here, but it is true multitasking. It's just more controlled and the OS can manage it for you, no need to worry about closing the program yourself unless it's badly made junk.
As for the crappy RFS filesystem that causes lag, there's several fixes for that in the development section that make the phone blazing fast
touchwizz is very quick when rfs is "fixed" (read: gone/replaced )
the gps issues aren't big deal anymore in froyo at least for me
there's key differences between maemo and android which aren't samsung or sgs related.
For example Android is using a Linux kernel yes, but most of the system is not very "Linux like" per se. yo'uve got some cripple busybox by default at best, and most apps run as separate users in java sandboxes (some are native)
Maemo is a lot more like a "real Linux" and a lot less java
Still, I prefer the Android devices at the moment, mostly more polished/powerfull
The lack of camera cover on the SGS has never been an issue to anyone I think, the lack of flash may or may not be, it isnt for me, it is for some.
The finish is a matter of taste, the phone is very very light, and rather strong/well built actually. Nokias are heavier, and also well built, and might be more appealing to many.
Personally I had a Nokia before too and I like how I don't really feel the sgs in my pocket in comparison.
I own a Nokia N900 and a Samsung Galaxy S.
It's true, Android has a task switcher (long press home button). But there's no android device at the moment that has real 'visual' multitasking like the N900.
You can watch a video, switch to the internet and load a webpage. when you press the multitask button on the N900, it shows little windows where you still can see the video running or the webpage loading. very impressing.
one point to mention is the hardware. Camera and speaker of the N900 are better in my opinion.
on the other hand, the SGS has the android market and the great screen.
after 4 months using both devices, I'll stick with the SGS.
maemo/meego is surely a good OS that gives you all freedom of a linux system (root/shell access out of the box) but the Nokia support is even worse than samsung at the moment.
the SGS is a very good device in my opinion and I can do everything I could do on the N900. I'm only missing the hardware keyboard at times...
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The SGS does true multitasking. It will run multiple apps and will close the ones that are least used if it needs memory or processor power automatically so yes, you can switch between live apps.
That said I am a long term Communicator user and if Nokia had assured me of a updated replacement I would still be there. Don't get me wrong I love my SGS but I am a business user and the E90 was a business focussed smart phone. Given the finance to get one I would be very tempted to go to the E7 or N9 when they are released. The N9 is rumoured to be running Maemo.
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TouchWiz is the modified UI, while RFS is the file system. The latter is the cause of most of the lag people complain about, while the former is likely the cause of the remaining slowdown.
And as has been said, android does true multitasking. It's a great phone experience, as good as anything I ever got from the Nokia line of e# devices, though I do miss having hardware buttons for blind dialing (that's what you lose with any touchscreen phone)
Oh and sorry about the tons of typos in the previous post.
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bilboa1 said:
touchwizz is very quick when rfs is "fixed" (read: gone/replaced )
the gps issues aren't big deal anymore in froyo at least for me
there's key differences between maemo and android which aren't samsung or sgs related.
For example Android is using a Linux kernel yes, but most of the system is not very "Linux like" per se. yo'uve got some cripple busybox by default at best, and most apps run as separate users in java sandboxes (some are native)
Maemo is a lot more like a "real Linux" and a lot less java
Still, I prefer the Android devices at the moment, mostly more polished/powerfull
The lack of camera cover on the SGS has never been an issue to anyone I think, the lack of flash may or may not be, it isnt for me, it is for some.
The finish is a matter of taste, the phone is very very light, and rather strong/well built actually. Nokias are heavier, and also well built, and might be more appealing to many.
Personally I had a Nokia before too and I like how I don't really feel the sgs in my pocket in comparison.
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fboneol said:
I own a Nokia N900 and a Samsung Galaxy S.
It's true, Android has a task switcher (long press home button). But there's no android device at the moment that has real 'visual' multitasking like the N900.
You can watch a video, switch to the internet and load a webpage. when you press the multitask button on the N900, it shows little windows where you still can see the video running or the webpage loading. very impressing.
one point to mention is the hardware. Camera and speaker of the N900 are better in my opinion.
on the other hand, the SGS has the android market and the great screen.
after 4 months using both devices, I'll stick with the SGS.
maemo/meego is surely a good OS that gives you all freedom of a linux system (root/shell access out of the box) but the Nokia support is even worse than samsung at the moment.
the SGS is a very good device in my opinion and I can do everything I could do on the N900. I'm only missing the hardware keyboard at times...
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Thanks guys... So i guess other than the hardware QWERTY everything else is good?
@fboneol
I dont mind not getting previews of my apps or seeing them run in the background as long it would continue working in the background.. that it does. right??
Thanks guys once again.... uve been a real help..
i have both phones
to be honest, i love sgs more (though it's bricked at the moment!) because is light, with a great screen and android looks better and there are so many apps to choose, etc
but, i need sip and sip and im are so integrated to the sistem and so easy to use. it's strange that on sgs, a google phone, you cannot do google talk voice and video, well you can do that on nokia. i usually have multiple service runnings ... no problem
sipdroid, or other android apps, are so much limited
on n900, i can email any file easily from the default email program ... on sgs i tried lots of shiny email apps ... just to email pictures and video (maybe there is a way to hack that, but ...)
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in the end: sgs is more fun, but n900 is more eficient ...
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I own a Nokia N900 and a Samsung Galaxy S.
It's true, Android has a task switcher (long press home button). But there's no android device at the moment that has real 'visual' multitasking like the N900.
You can watch a video, switch to the internet and load a webpage. when you press the multitask button on the N900, it shows little windows where you still can see the video running or the webpage loading. very impressing.
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@fboneol ... how that you see the video playing in multitask?
on mine; if i switch the app, the video pauses ... audio, yes ... but video ... no!
its true sipdroid is not as good as nokia stuff but it works
i liked the nokia integration more ofc but the polish of the rest and the speed etc makes it up for it
Isn't Maemo dead? From what I gather all of Nokia's effort are in Meego or whatever it is.
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its true sipdroid is not as good as nokia stuff but it works
i liked the nokia integration more ofc but the polish of the rest and the speed etc makes it up for it
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maemo has better sip, yep, but also google voice and video ... now skype works on android too
i'm not from us; but i have an activated voice account ... i transfer all calls to google talk ... so i get all the voice functionality on nokia
on the google phone ... talk has no voice and the google voice app is not working cause i don't have an us no
meego /maemo same thing except meego for nokia phone isn't really out there. They share a lot. Could have been called Maemo 7 or Moblin but instead they made a new name to unite both, so meego has quite some maemo code.
on the sgs video calls are supported and compatible with nokias also, and integrated the way i would expect it (unlike SIP)
About SIP i'm talking about using the standards, not Skype or GVoice. I'm not using GVoice or Skype. Nokia has standard SIP support, android a few apps doing it (but they're not as well integrated). Small but significant difference.
Hi people. Haven't been here in ages though I used to visit this forum on a daily basis in the past.
Anyway, I came back for old times' sake and see that people are still using this phone. It's a rather old model.
It's a rather cool phone at that time, waited a long time and got it with my first paycheck. Turned out to be a rather horrible experience and now I am happily with iPhone and considering changing to WP7 because MS > Apple. ^^
Anyway, back to the thread title. Why are you guys still using this phone?
is a good phone even if it has wm6.1
I got a x10 and the other is with my dad, it really keeps working flawlesly
The best model ever. it's exclusive and beautiful
Still lovin' & using this
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phone.
No demand for a new one...
i'm still using it - it may be about the 10th different handset but its still the X1! but i used the Hd7 in a shop yesterday and its just so smooth compared to x1! the only reason i've stuck with it is that it does what i need it to do and i have no money for a new one :/
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the only reason i've stuck with it is that it does what i need it to do and i have no money for a new one :/
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same lol.. But I love HTC surround... too bad it's not in Malaysia anytime soon
It's great - once you learn how to drive it.
Love the optical mouse & the slide out Keyboard.
I've found an app to suit my every purpose (TomTom, SPB News for RSS, & Pocket Player, & G-Alarm).
Currently using the Sony Ericsson Panel, which displays all the info I need; two analogue clocks, weather for two cities (only current temp and conditions - don't need a five day forecast on my home screen), calendar, messages etc.
I've tried a couple of different ROMs, but have gone back to basics with the 6.1.
^ which is why I like the look of the new Windows Phone 7. Good simple layout.
The home screen is really important to me - which an iPhone doesn't even have.
I will consider the WP7 if the tile screen can be customise to what I want… & if the handsets are any good.
1. Keyboard
2. Multiple ROMs can be flashed
3. Stability
4. Price (I can afford it )
because I am the boss of my SD cards and can put you want
because it is small and has a great battery
because some things are done with a custom rom that you can not even I win7
because I do not like iPhone
because the phone has a hardware button on phone off
simply because it has nothing on this planet
perhaps X2 but it does not have hard spl
Would like to have a new phone, but they are too expencive. Dont want to give a mobile phone lot of money anymore.
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It's great - once you learn how to drive it.
Love the optical mouse & the slide out Keyboard.
I've found an app to suit my every purpose (TomTom, SPB News for RSS, & Pocket Player, & G-Alarm).
Currently using the Sony Ericsson Panel, which displays all the info I need; two analogue clocks, weather for two cities (only current temp and conditions - don't need a five day forecast on my home screen), calendar, messages etc.
I've tried a couple of different ROMs, but have gone back to basics with the 6.1.
^ which is why I like the look of the new Windows Phone 7. Good simple layout.
The home screen is really important to me - which an iPhone doesn't even have.
I will consider the WP7 if the tile screen can be customise to what I want… & if the handsets are any good.
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My reasons mirror Tom's exactly. I'm lazy. My X1 works, it has music, navigation, activesync, and office available to me, and I can't be bothered right now to make sure that whatever I upgrade to has alternatives for everything I use.
I'm not even using a custom ROM anymore. I just use the panels to change the face whenever I get bored or need a task specific homescreen (like On-the Road Panel when I'm driving or Skype Panel when I'm abroad).
My X1 is a lot faster and more stable than when I was running 6.5 on the phone. As for switching to another platform... in good time. I had an iPhone and gave it away... this was before decent navigation apps and multiasking were available on the iPhone.
There is no alternative isnt there? Win7 sucks. There are some other devices with the same CPU so not really a step up. There is just no 1ghz hardware keyboard Win Mobile device available. So why shouldnt people still use the X1?
Well actually I'm using it the whole time because it helps me with all the things I do, from work e.g. remote desktop w/c WP7 doesn't have yet, video call calling love one's from abroad WP7 doesn't have, music to help me relax,easy chat with the hardware keyboard, i could also watch movie with it after i downloaded it from the internet without converting it (.avi), using it as a modem (HSDPA) if i want to connect to the internet when i'm not at home ( connecting it to a laptop) and last is that i could connect to any WIFI hotspot. I'm just sad that i can't play flash games anymore now that skyfire stop the support. If anyone knows a new browser that support flash kindly share it thank you.. =)
thinking that im still using x1 one more year then swap to WP7 because ATM WP7 is damn expensive and at introduction stage, with little game, application. by the way, x1 still does a really good job for day-to-day basic tasks
I love this phone. The screen is still very good when compared to other models on the market, watching a movie in 800 X 480 on your mobile is an impressive experience. The hardware keyboard is very useful for communicating vià messenger or for writing long emails. I had to clean it once and know it's just as when the phone was new. I enjoy the freedom of Windows Mobile 6.1 compared to the other operating systems on the market, the ability to side load apps and tweak the phone in every way I'd like to. Those and some other reasons make me believe that the best I can do know is to stick with the Xperia X1 and to see how Android and Windows Phone 7 are developing. Man I really hope that someone will be able to crack open WP7 or Microsoft will come to the decision that it's necessary to loosen the restrictions on WP7.
easy: it has a hw-keyboard. i want that.
so far there hasn't been a device to which i would upgrade. there was the milestone, but turned out it's locked, and i don't want to be dependant from the manufacturer for updates.
i'm now waiting how the desire z turns out and what comes with wp7.
The only reason I left the X1 was because of the camera and video camera. I have the cutest baby daughter so I always want to capture spontaneous pictures and video, often in low light conditions. I switched to the Nokia N8, which isn't as bad as you might think. Text input is atrocious, but everything else is pretty nice. I just predicted that no manufacturer will put a xenon flash 720p camera on a QWERTY slide-out keyboard phone, so I might as well swallow the bitter pill of converting to a capacitive keyboardless phone now.
Otherwise, the *only other* unfixable flaw with the X1 was the sluggishness (overclocking never worked). So, all-in-all, X1 is a great phone; I just wish Sony had taken the next step and made a hard-core upgrade that could compete against the Droid 2 Global and the HTC Desire Z.
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Otherwise, the *only other* unfixable flaw with the X1 was the sluggishness (overclocking never worked). So, all-in-all, X1 is a great phone;
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^ yeah, in the weekend I was using the X1 one to listen to music, while taking pictures, & navigating using Google maps.. + email was active syncing. It was all a bit much for the X1 & was forced to soft reset.
I don't have experience with any other smart phones, but I'm hoping the new WP7 can handle doing all that and more.
I just need to be patient & wait for the prices to come down.. and for more live tile apps to be developed.
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^ yeah, in the weekend I was using the X1 one to listen to music, while taking pictures, & navigating using Google maps.. + email was active syncing. It was all a bit much for the X1 & was forced to soft reset.
I don't have experience with any other smart phones, but I'm hoping the new WP7 can handle doing all that and more.
I just need to be patient & wait for the prices to come down.. and for more live tile apps to be developed.
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Greetings to fellow Wellingtonian!!!
I got my Xperia flashed, updated and optimized to the hilt with everything I can possibly need, had GPS setup, voice control, other bits and pieces, selected the voices I liked and became very happy with what I have. The keyboard is a frustrating quality control muck up, but I mostly use my Xperia for internet anyway, so not a huge deal. It's just one of the handsets I use on a regular basis, have no intentions of sticking with it forever, of course, but then the only one I intend to stick forever with is my HTC Universal, an old and reliable beast that may lack in specs, but more than makes up in design.
Speaking of WP7. I had a lovely WP7 UI ported to Xperia and was very pleased with result, just waiting for it to be properly tweaked and kitted out and for me to get sick and tired of Cookie's offerings. Otherwise is was running rather well, so will potentially be my next thing.
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My reasons mirror Tom's exactly. I'm lazy. My X1 works, it has music, navigation, activesync, and office available to me, and I can't be bothered right now to make sure that whatever I upgrade to has alternatives for everything I use.
I'm not even using a custom ROM anymore. I just use the panels to change the face whenever I get bored or need a task specific homescreen (like On-the Road Panel when I'm driving or Skype Panel when I'm abroad).
My X1 is a lot faster and more stable than when I was running 6.5 on the phone. As for switching to another platform... in good time. I had an iPhone and gave it away... this was before decent navigation apps and multiasking were available on the iPhone.
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I just gave a new X1 to my wife. She likes its looks but complains its too slooooow. Any suggestions for speeding it up without using a custom ROM?
Thanks!
I really wanted to like the Motorola Razr I. It was my first new phone after having a Samsung Galaxy S (very first one) and at the beginning I was really excited. The body felt nice and better than my old Galaxy S. Having Jelly Bean on my Galaxy S, The software on the Razr I felt like a step back. I didn't mind having Ice Cream Sandwich, because Jelly Bean was already promised for our phone, but for a reason I didn't have that nice feeling of having a new phone.
The problems I had:
- Not all apps are compatible with the Razr I, some apps I bought (like Rebuild, or Triple Town) were not working at all!
- Lags and music stuttering
- Volume too low
- GPS coordinates were all over the place, in Navigon it would constandly point me on the wrong street (this was actually the nail in the coffin)
So after all those problems occured, I found a nice deal on a Galaxy S 3 and gave my Razr I back and never looked back. Everything from the above list works and as a plus I have a bigger screen and Jelly Bean. Plus the community seems to be bigger.
So for me, Intel cpus are not ready for prime time yet.
RAZRi is not a phone for just... having a phone, is a phone for fiddling out, I knew very well that there where some incompatibilities, but to be honest all of my programs work so far except for 2 games and 1 emulator: Chaos Rings from Square Enix and the n64 emu. I have no stuttering in music (poweramp and folderplayer) nor any lag in the system. I have the swap internal memory for sdcard applied and I don't have to worry about space, the volume is to high for me (coming from a G1) and navigation is ok for me (RMAPS) so... the problems that you describe are quite weird.
(Please note, I bought this phone used, it was a demo phone on a store, not even with that has a flaw except for the program compatibility)
I don't have any issues with the phone.
All the apps i need to have all work with my razr i apart from flash (i dont need), bbc media player, n64 emulator and barclays app. I haven't really come across any compatibility issues.
Yeah the music stutters but it not bad my htc did that too and btw thats just a bug with the play music app. playerpro is a great alternative.
The volume is not at all low
GPS for me is amazing although the accuracy never really gets below 30 feets and the compass could be a little faster.
I love the stock android look on it even without jellybean I get bored of my one x for this and that has a bigger screen, not intel, and has jelly bean.
I don't have the problems you have, but i don't like my razr i as much as i thought, too.
Got it after my Desire HD had a partly-scattered screen, shut down time and time again when WIFI was activated, sensors were not working anymore etc.
I bought the razr i to be reliable. The stock launcher froze the widgets up to 3 times a day, had to restart it every time. Changed to Nova Launcher Prime again. Now i miss the "real" quick settings to pull down (they are apps for that, but many switches are only links (e.g. GPS). My AUX Port has a loose contact, too. When i walk, often the music stops because the razr i thinks, there are no headphones connected anymore.
A few days ago, i took out my old Desire HD. Even though it was big and can't be used single-handed, i think of buying an used HTC HD2, as i miss messing around with roms and always wanted to try out Windows Phone 7. I think i will only use it as backup device, but maybe i would sell the razr i and use the HD2 as everyday device for a few months, until i find another phone that suits me.
Anyway, wouldn't buy an S3 because i neither like the look nor quality of it.
Too bad. I don't know why you had problems with Navigon. I recently used the same software to navigate from UK to Poland and back and it worked perfectly. It even got me out of trouble when by mistake i took the wrong turn in Belgium and put me back on the right track in no time.
I love my RAZRi.
Best phone I've ever had in my view. I haven't had any of these issues mentioned at all. The navigation is fantastic and due to the RAZRi battery performance I have now sold my old SatNav unit and use the RAZRi all the time.
I'm sorry you haven't had the same experience I have had with the phone
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I'm coming from a Droid 3 and of course miss the great keyboard. But I REALLY LOVE the Razr i! Perfect size, perfect build quality (no plastic crap!), volume is perfect, perfect signal and awesome battery life!
I am in contact with the developer of epsxe the Playstation Emulator and I am currently testing an x86 build of it, it's running absolutely great, with no framelimiter i get 150-200 fps! I love this phone, really.
Also yesterday while celebrating the new year I was absolutely happy with the camera performance, shooting several photos with flash in a few seconds is absolutely great!
Edit: If you are looking for emulators that have x86 builds have a look at Robert Broglias Emulators, they are great! https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5leHBsdXNhbHBoYS5HYmFFbXUiXQ..
I'm coming from a Milestone2 and me too I'm missing the querty keyboard but this razr i is superb!
Fast, light, great shape and size!
The camera is very good too. (EDIT: If light conditions are good. Otherway it's good but not like other top smarthpones. Anyway don't expect bad pictures!)
It isn't the best phone but I guess there is no best phone! We can only find the best phone for our needs. I found mine!
"found a nice deal on a Galaxy S 3 and gave my Razr I back and never looked back. Everything from the above list works and as a plus I have a bigger screen and Jelly Bean."
Minus battery life, minus browsing speed, minus space in your pocket, minus premium feel.
Why didnt u buy the nexus 7 tablet it is faster and BIGGER?
I understand that people who want to play arent satisfied with a phone thats clearly not meant to play but your arguments are kinda weak. If u told us u bought an iphone for stability, eco system and/or style i wouldv said have fun with it its a great phone but i cant call that big piece of junk samsung built this time a great phone, its just big.
The apps u name arent apps but games, again: why didnt u buy a nexus7 which is an outstanding device to play with.
I cant speak for navigon but i used copilot 2weaks earlier without any problems.
"The camera is very good too.!"
Its not, its alright but its not good, i dunno a mobile phone cam that i could call good.
"- Lags and music stuttering"
I cant comment on that since i dont use that google crap app yet, maybe in a couple of months when they got it out of alpha status ill try but till then i still love my player pro.
purplet said:
"found a nice deal on a Galaxy S 3 and gave my Razr I back and never looked back. Everything from the above list works and as a plus I have a bigger screen and Jelly Bean."
Minus battery life, minus browsing speed, minus space in your pocket, minus premium feel.
Why didnt u buy the nexus 7 tablet it is faster and BIGGER?
I understand that people who want to play arent satisfied with a phone thats clearly not meant to play but your arguments are kinda weak. If u told us u bought an iphone for stability, eco system and/or style i wouldv said have fun with it its a great phone but i cant call that big piece of junk samsung built this time a great phone, its just big.
The apps u name arent apps but games, again: why didnt u buy a nexus7 which is an outstanding device to play with.
I cant speak for navigon but i used copilot 2weaks earlier without any problems.
"The camera is very good too.!"
Its not, its alright but its not good, i dunno a mobile phone cam that i could call good.
"- Lags and music stuttering"
I cant comment on that since i dont use that google crap app yet, maybe in a couple of months when they got it out of alpha status ill try but till then i still love my player pro.
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Well said
Indeed, well said.
Obviously, there are a few phones with good cameras but it's really sparse (my last one had a good camera, HP Pre 3; limited shooting options but the quality impressed quite a lot of people, took some stunning shots with it) and I don't really care about it either because I have my DSLR for that.
I do use the camera on the Razr i for shooting a picture here and there when I don't have my DSLR with me or just to share something I saw on Twitter (which my DSLR can't; I have no Galaxy Camera lol). And for that it does the job. Not amazing pictures but good enough.
purplet said:
"found a nice deal on a Galaxy S 3 and gave my Razr I back and never looked back. Everything from the above list works and as a plus I have a bigger screen and Jelly Bean."
Minus battery life, minus browsing speed, minus space in your pocket, minus premium feel.
Why didnt u buy the nexus 7 tablet it is faster and BIGGER?
I understand that people who want to play arent satisfied with a phone thats clearly not meant to play but your arguments are kinda weak. If u told us u bought an iphone for stability, eco system and/or style i wouldv said have fun with it its a great phone but i cant call that big piece of junk samsung built this time a great phone, its just big.
The apps u name arent apps but games, again: why didnt u buy a nexus7 which is an outstanding device to play with.
I cant speak for navigon but i used copilot 2weaks earlier without any problems.
"The camera is very good too.!"
Its not, its alright but its not good, i dunno a mobile phone cam that i could call good.
"- Lags and music stuttering"
I cant comment on that since i dont use that google crap app yet, maybe in a couple of months when they got it out of alpha status ill try but till then i still love my player pro.
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The reason why I didnt buy a Nexus 7 is obvious. I wanted a phone and not a tablet. The Nexus 4 on the other side would have been a good phone, if it wasn't for the small internal storage.
Anyway, regarding the stuttering. I wasn't using the Google Music App. I am using PowerAMP which was doing a fine job on the Galaxy S and again on the Galaxy S3. So it must be Razr Is fault. I also don't know why my GPS was so bad on the Razr I. If i didn't have those 2 problems, I might have kept the phone because I really wanted to like it. But those 2 problems plus the compatibility issue were deal breakers for me.
I must say, the Razr I has amazing battery life but I am also happy with the battery life of my Galaxy S3. If worse comes to worst, I could still swap the battery for a fully charged one, which is not possible with the Razr I
Anyway, I hope you guys will stay happy with your Razr I as I am happy with my S3
Just to give my opinion, after two weeks of testing.
Also note that my previous phone was an HTC Desire HD, which I miss a lot but ... the RAZR i is way better and has those advantages:
- it is fast, rom is very responsive, there is just a minor lag when opening the toggle screen for the first time (after reboot)
- battery is very good (more than 1 day with a moderate use, at least 8 hours with a lot of gaming/streaming/videos/camero with flash/web etc.)
- the size is perfect for me, SIII and similar phone are too big for me
- build quality is just awesome! sorry but many of my friends own an SIII, and the plastic quality is simply crap!
- the Moto's ROM is nearly a pure android one
- I didn't have any problem with an application (compatibility is ok, just a few app does not work: SongPop Free for example)
- the camera button is very handy
- the camera quality is ok and relatively fast (don't forget that's a phone...)
- gaming is ok (I'm not a hardcore gamer on phones )
- GPS fix is extremely fast and accurate compared to my DHD. I can even get a fix inside buildings, but accuracy is not good then, which is normal. Outside, GPS fix is done within 3-5 seconds.
- the phone speaker is good and loud enough (for a phone)
- the GSM reception is very good and stable
- the audio quality during calls is very clear
I use Poweramp without any problem, I'm an audiophile and I can tell that the audio quality is very good. But don't use the bundled earphones... very bad quality! I never noticed stuttering, neither wither Poweramp nor with Google play, and I really listen to music all the time.
Toggles from the notification are not an Android standard. HTC Sense, TouchWiz and Cyanogenmod add those buttons ! So please, don't say you miss them!
However, it's true that I miss the toggles too, and I don't like the way the Moto launcher works. To change this: Widgetsoid for notification and more widgets, and Apex/Nova for the launcher.
The big default of this phone is the lack of the usb mass storage. I'm a Linux user and the MTP protocol does not work well and is very complicated to easy integrate with your desktop. But I also use Windows 7, and absolutely no problem with this. (update: this issue may be resolved by using the PTP mode instead, I still need testing)
Now I'm waiting for the JB update and hope that the dev will follow with some amazing ROMs (update: update is coming!! )
To conclude, to me, according to the price and the build quality, this is probably the best mid-range phone (nearly high-end) of the moment.
I probably would have bought a Nexus 4 if it was not out of stock, but I really don't regret my purchase at all, this phone is awesome!
Update: I just had a freeze yesterday, neither buttons nor screen were responding. I had to 'hard reboot' by pressing both power and volume down for a few seconds to reset the phone. This is the issue I had since I bought it on the 28th of December.
50/50 with you
In one hand I expected more from this phone, in terms of software ICS 4.04 now a days is a old OS, Motorola is not taking care of the phone and this bad joke of the SD card is juts to.... ask then why you **** like this ICS.
In other hand the phone is build with very good materials better materials than the Nexus 4,is fast as the faster phone in the market performing the common task of every day is handy and has a very good camera if you know how to take pictures, not forgeting that is a phone.
So I'm happy with the phone I've tested for weeks phones like Nexus Prime, htc one x+, lumia 900 and iPhone 5 and any of them make me think that I should change my razr i, all of them have bad things and good things but in my opinion there is no a phone which could impress me in a way that the iPhone 2G did to me.
And after all, the perfect phone does not exist ...
I personally find that the RAZR i perfectly fits my needs, but it is not the perfect phone
And yes, I forgot this: the way the sdcard is mounted totally sucks !
About the update, a JB leak for a the old RAZR can be found. So, I guess that a much more recent device like the RAZR i will soon receive JB.
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Just to give my opinion, after two weeks of testing.
Also note that my previsous phone was an HTC Desire HD, which I miss a lot but ... the RAZR i is way better and has those advantages:
- it is fast, rom is very responsive, there is just a minor lag when opening the toggle screen for the first time (after reboot)
- battery is very good
- the size is perfect for me, SIII and similar phone are too big for me
- build quality is just awesome ! sorry but many of my friends own an SIII, and the plastic quality is simply crap !
- the Moto's ROM is nearly a pure android one
- I didn't have any problem with an application (compatibility is ok)
- the camera button is very handy
- the camera is ok and relatively fast
- gaming is ok (I'm not a hardcore gamer on phones )
- GPS fix is extremely fast and accurate compared to my DHD. I can even get a fix inside buildings, but accuracy is not good then, which is normal. Outside, GPS fix is done within 3-5 seconds.
- the phone speaker is good (for a phone)
- the GSM reception is very good and stable
- the audio quality during calls is very clear
I use Poweramp without any problem, I'm an audiophile and I can tell that the audio quality is very good. But don't use the bundled earphones... totally cheap ! I never noticed stuttering, neither wither Poweramp nor with Google play, and I really listen to music all the time.
Toggles from the notification are not an Android standard. HTC Sense, TouchWiz and Cyanogenmod add those buttons ! So please, don't say you miss them !
However, it's true that I miss the toggles too, and I don't like the way the Moto launcher works. To change this: Widgetsoid for notification and more widgets, and NovaLauncher for the launcher.
The big default of this phone is the lack of the usb mass storage. I'm a Linux user and the MTP protocol does not work well and is very complicated to easy integrate with your desktop. But I also use Windows 7, and absolutely no problem with this.
Now I'm waiting for the JB update and hope that the dev will follow with some amazing ROMs
To conclude, to me, according to the price and the build quality, this is probably the best mid-range phone (nearly high-end) of the moment.
I probably would have bought a Nexus 4 if it was not out of stock, but I don't regret my purchase at all.
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I had that MTP problem with Honeycomb but since ICS I don't got that problem. And I'm an Ubuntu user so also Linux. Razr i mounts fine via mass storage on Ubuntu 12.04
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I had that MTP problem with Honeycomb but since ICS I don't got that problem. And I'm an Ubuntu user so also Linux. Razr i mounts fine via mass storage on Ubuntu 12.04
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I'm using Archlinux, totally up to date, I may have missed something...
Do you have the mass storage option on your RAZR i? That would be weird...
What library do you use? because the most common one, libmtp, has an opened issue for this device. The RAZR i is not yet marked as "known".
I had a strange behavior under Windows: I had to switch between MTP and PTP a few times to make it work again on my laptop. I'll try again after work