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The title says it all, I don't understand what is different between Clockworkmod Recovery 150mb, 250mb and 400mb? If I flash a 400mb recovery can I install a rom that requires 150mb? If I flash a 150mb can I install a rom that requires 400mb recovery?
In this thread, at the download section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
It says " 4.X is bigger then 2.X so you need at least a 390mb system partition. If you flashed the recovery with 360mb modded file, you have to reflash it again " How do I check the modded file size? and reflash what?
Hello,
The size speaks of itself. Some Roms (like Sense Roms) have lots of components which requires more space from your Internal Memory (NAND) . And others don't, (like MIUI and CM) . And if you flashed a 400mb Recovery you MAY be able to use a 150mb ROM on it but it's absolutely not recommended as the rom may malfunction. and when you try to use a 150mb recovery with a 400mb size rom it will not install . (even if it did, it will stick on a bootloop) .
You can check the modded size by checking flash.cfg (open with notepad)
The quoted size refers to the size system partition that is created, and the system partition must be big enough for the rom you flash.
Yes you can flash a small rom to a large partition with no side effects,,,BUT you lose the extra space. So a 150 Meg rom on a 250meg partition results in 100meg totally wasted. A 250meg rom won't flash to a 150 partition.
If the rom doesn't tell you what size to use, extract the system folder from the ..zip, and see how big it is, (right click-properties) and add a few Meg.
Yep just choose the size based on what ROM you want to install. You should check the individual ROM threads for instructions. And just btw I found this HD2 toolkit thing very useful. It allows you to repartition to any custom size you want (not only 150, 250 or 400 Mb), among many other things.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
Marvlesz said:
Hello,
The size speaks of itself. Some Roms (like Sense Roms) have lots of components which requires more space from your Internal Memory (NAND) . And others don't, (like MIUI and CM) . And if you flashed a 400mb Recovery you MAY be able to use a 150mb ROM on it but it's absolutely not recommended as the rom may malfunction. and when you try to use a 150mb recovery with a 400mb size rom it will not install . (even if it did, it will stick on a bootloop) .
You can check the modded size by checking flash.cfg (open with notepad)
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How do you downgrade the mb? Like I installed a 250 mb cwm and I want to revert to 150 mb... How do I do it?
mmob18 said:
How do you downgrade the mb? Like I installed a 250 mb cwm and I want to revert to 150 mb... How do I do it?
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Just flash the new partiton. This will delete everything on your NAND, so backup first.
mmob18 said:
How do you downgrade the mb? Like I installed a 250 mb cwm and I want to revert to 150 mb... How do I do it?
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just the same as you did the 250, except you either edit flash.cfg or use the toolkit and select 150.
i was wondering what the difference between the Blue & Orange CWM
These TPTs are for Gen 2 European Blades that either came as stock Gen 2 or were upgraded using the Windows Flasher method. Do not use any of these files on a Chinese Blade.
They should enable fastboot when powering on holding vol+ as well as repartitioning to give more space for /data. Gen 3 TPTs use a Gen 2 appsboot.mbn and splash.img. You can also use a Gen 3 TPT on a Gen 2 Blade to convert to Gen 3, and vice versa to convert to Gen 2.
Gen 2 custom: 160mb system, 2mb cache, 279 mb data, 0.1mb oem
MD5sum: 83624b0365216b8e97c13f55e7fdebab
Gen 2 custom b: 128mb system, 2mb cache, 311mb data, 0.1mb oem (probably too small for most people)
MD5sum: 7d73894ae1013d1bc65ff6dfbc1cc9d4
Gen 2 stock: 220mb system, 37.5mb cache, 162.5mb data, 21mb oem
MD5sum: 4e8d9c15ac2e640e805fcfdaa44b0579
Gen 3 custom: 160mb system, 2mb cache, 279 mb data, 0.1mb oem
MD5sum: 109695cfca6cd97d1e8e86a9642db8ae
Gen 3 stock: 220mb system, 37.5mb cache, 162.5mb data, 21mb oem
MD5sum: 57eb1d1d77cfb8f388215ea591a09c8e
How to install:
Copy the zip to the root of your sdcard and check the md5sum matches above.
Unzip the file to the root of your sdcard. You should end up with a folder called "image" with the image.bin file inside it.
Check the md5sum of the image.bin matches the md5 given in the nandroid.md5 file.
Turn your phone off. Once its off completely, turn it back on holding menu and vol+.
You should see green text on the screen, then once its finished it should boot into recovery. You may (or may not) see an error message just before this finishes. This happened when sm4tik tested it, but the TPT still worked fine. If I can find out why this is happening I'll try and fix it.
Once in recovery, do a factory reset then install your chosen rom. Remember to remove the image directory once you're finished to avoid reflashing the TPT by accident.
Warnings:
Make sure your phone is well charged before you start the TPT. Unplug it before you begin.
Check the md5sums while the file is on your sdcard, before and after unzipping.
There is always a chance a TPT will break your phone. Use these files at your own risk.
Remove the image directory when you're done to avoid reflashing by mistake.
Thanks to sm4tik for testing this, cpg for the hack to enable fastboot on vol+ and wbaw for help and advice.
Edit: Seems people are having problems with the Gen 3 TPTs, so removing links for now.
Thanks to sm4tik for testing this. It is now confirmed to enable fastboot on vol+ and repartition properly. You may get an error just before it finishes updating. This happened to sm4tik, but he reported that the TPT still worked ok. Partitions were changed to correct size and fastboot worked again.
Thank you so much, this worked like a charm on my Gen2 stock 2.2 Blade.
Probably a stupid question, but after I've changed from my Gen2 160MB partition to the larger 220MB system partition, can I restore from a nandroid backup. I also have sd-ext partition on my sd card, which I use via S2E, is there anything I need to do to ensure that this will still work?
Regards
Jim
[email protected] said:
Probably a stupid question, but after I've changed from my Gen2 160MB partition to the larger 220MB system partition, can I restore from a nandroid backup. I also have sd-ext partition on my sd card, which I use via S2E, is there anything I need to do to ensure that this will still work?
Regards
Jim
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U can do it till u have enough space on your system
[email protected]gmail.com said:
Probably a stupid question, but after I've changed from my Gen2 160MB partition to the larger 220MB system partition, can I restore from a nandroid backup. I also have sd-ext partition on my sd card, which I use via S2E, is there anything I need to do to ensure that this will still work?
Regards
Jim
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You can do it as long as your old backups are small enough to fit in the new layout. System will be fine as you made it bigger, but data might be too small now. As you were using an ext partition it might be ok if most of the stuff was on that. You should be able to use the ext partition as before without having to do anything different.
any idea how to partition the gen 2 chinese blade??
i am tired of searching for a method but everywhere they say "DO NOT FOLLOW THIS METHOD FOR CHINESE BLADE."
yash_p90 said:
any idea how to partition the gen 2 chinese blade??
i am tired of searching for a method but everywhere they say "DO NOT FOLLOW THIS METHOD FOR CHINESE BLADE."
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Someone posted one on modaco a while ago. I can't remember what thread it was in so you'll have to search for it. You would be better just using an apps2ext method if you need more space than trying to repartition, your system partition is already big enough for all the current roms.
I have LEO T8585, and when i flash Android 4.0.3. NAND (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354267) i have only 100MB for apps. I tried this HD2 Android NAND toolkit to make partition bigger but no luck.
No matter what size i choose i'll get same size for downloaded apps - 100MB.
Im not total noob flashing NAND ROM-s , but do i miss something?
Or is it possible to make this partition bigger?
Thanks
First, the space shown as available doesn't include the system, boot or cache partition size, only the data partition size, and since during flashing, the data partition size is set to be whatever is left over after the rom is flashed, the only way to increase data size is by reducing the system partition size, , but then of course the rom wouldn't fit (because you flash the system partition to be only fractionally larger than the size of the system folder contents, if you flashed a larger system partition, the extra space would be wasted, unused by anything, example put a rom requiring 150mg onto a 250 Meg layout and you lose 100mb)
Secondly, if you set up an ext partition on the SD card, the rom will consider that internal memory BUT (on most roms) wont show it on the available internal storage calculation, but it WILL use it as internal.
third, the 4.x roms are still beta, and vary as to sizes required, whether they have ap2sd+ built in or whether you need to manually install and configure it. If you are looking for a rom you can keep as a daily for a while, wait until 4.x is a few more betas along.
Thanks!
Thats what i thougt. I made minimal part. 190MB and got 100 extra. My ext. on SD is 1024. For now its ok. And this 4.0 beta 10 it is very nice ROM, looks stable and smooth on HD2.
Hello everyone! Yesterday, I tried to flash the new ICS CM9 and I did it. It is laggy and I can t install GAPPS.Then i saw that my system partition is 160 mb instead of 215 (recommended).
So, how can I change my system partition from 160 to 215 ? (I tried some TPT Gen2 tutorials, but nothing).
Thanks!
stanangel said:
Hello everyone! Yesterday, I tried to flash the new ICS CM9 and I did it. It is laggy and I can t install GAPPS.Then i saw that my system partition is 160 mb instead of 215 (recommended).
So, how can I change my system partition from 160 to 215 ? (I tried some TPT Gen2 tutorials, but nothing).
Thanks!
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ok first go to market and download tpt helper.
then choose make your own tpt fill chache as 20 mb system(dont make it less it is recommended to use 20 mb on ics) as 210 mb(or as per ur choice but not less) and rest will be system.then click ok.
it will download the tpt and edit it accordingly.then check it it should have from the app there should be 10/12 matches.
then reboot.
press menu+power+vol up then green text fill flash and tpt will start on its own.
if there is a error at 99% down worry wait and then it will be success.
u r done.
just remember to have a rom on your sd.
there will be other options like choosing splash screen, recovery etc choose accordingly in the app.
u can even use your nandroids.
remember to delete image folder from sd after flash to prevent flashes by mistakes.
u r done enjoy
thanks saaransh9 i also want this info, voted up
sorry, but my number of matches is 1/1 .It is all right?
stanangel said:
sorry, but my number of matches is 1/1 .It is all right?
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When u set your partitions does it says finished if yes then it should be ok.
Or just TPT with the 220mb system partition version, reinstall your rom and you're done
Rastaman2302 said:
Or just TPT with the 220mb system partition version, reinstall your rom and you're done
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yes u can do that but the stock has 20 or 30 mb oem space which is a waste instead i get 210 mb system 210 data and 20 mb cache when i made my own tpt
How to check system partition???
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rohitzz said:
How to check system partition???
Sent from my Blade using xda premium
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You can use this.
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
ZeChe said:
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
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1. No,you cannot.
2.Your partition size is more than enough for any new ROM's. Minimum System partition size varies accordings to different ROM's. Minimum data is according to your needs for app storage. Minimum cache is 20mb,but keep in mind you can't download anything from market/play over 20mb. So cache decides your temporary market storage.
Sent from my ZTE Blade using XDA app
I have only 20-25Mb left on data partition, that's what bugs me.
Was thinking maybe to increase Data prtition or maybe install 4GB class 10 sd card I have and try to make EXT partition on it, 2GB I have now seems a bit slow for that.
Would one of thos things help?
Thanks.
ZeChe said:
I have only 20-25Mb left on data partition, that's what bugs me.
Was thinking maybe to increase Data prtition or maybe install 4GB class 10 sd card I have and try to make EXT partition on it, 2GB I have now seems a bit slow for that.
Would one of thos things help?
Thanks.
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You better get a 4 or 8 Gig card. Class 4 should do actually.
You've tried A2SD right?
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karthiknr said:
You better get a 4 or 8 Gig card. Class 4 should do actually.
You've tried A2SD right?
Sent from my ZTE Blade using XDA app
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No, actually I didn't tried A2SD, I think, I am using App 2 SD, free version, but I assume that's not the same, also I think that my card has only one partition.
As I said, am new to all of this.
Sorry for bothering you and I really appreciate the help.
Thanks, again.
ZeChe said:
No, actually I didn't tried A2SD, I think, I am using App 2 SD, free version, but I assume that's not the same, also I think that my card has only one partition.
As I said, am new to all of this.
Sorry for bothering you and I really appreciate the help.
Thanks, again.
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A2SD gives u lots of space. I have a 4 gig SD card with a 1 gig partition and I've 300 apps installed
Here's how u do it
-backup ur SD card
-boot into recovery
-select advanced
-partition SD card
-select size. recommended 1gb
-select swap size as 0. Select 32 if u use it for gaming
-reboot
-install s2e
-check all four boxes
-reboot
-start installing apps
(Tested with gingerbread roms)
ZeChe said:
Hi to all, I am new at all this android stuff, so I hope you won't laught, but I have few questions.
1.Is there a way to change size of partitions without flashing new rom?
2.How big the partitions should be (System, Data, Cache) ?
According to "Blade Checker" I have European ZTE Blade 512MB, Gen2 phone, also it said that I have to use image.bin style TPTs.
Curent partitions are:
System 220MB
Data 160MB
Cache 37MB
It is running CM 7.1 stable mod and Clockwork Mod Recovery 5.0.2.0
Thanks in advance, and I am sorry if I posted at a wrong place.
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If you changed your partition sizes, your rom and all your data would be wiped. If you made a backup before, you could restore it afterwards as long as it could fit in the new sizes (eg. if your rom took up 160MB in system just now, and you changed system to 170MB then it would fit so you could restore it, same for other partitions).
Size for the partitions depends on what rom you are wanting to install. Some like Swedish Snow can fit in 128MB system, others like the ICS ones need ~180MB or bigger.
As your current layout is big enough for any rom out now, you'd be better making an ext partition on your phone and using that. S2E from Google Play works well with CM7 and lets you move most, if not everything, on the data partition to the ext partition. Its usually best just to move apps, but it means you can have loads of space. You can choose the size of ext partition depending on how big your sdcard is and how much space you need.
karthiknr said:
2.Your partition size is more than enough for any new ROM's. Minimum System partition size varies accordings to different ROM's. Minimum data is according to your needs for app storage. Minimum cache is 20mb,but keep in mind you can't download anything from market/play over 20mb. So cache decides your temporary market storage.
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2MB is the minimum for cache. You can redirect the market downloads to data/ext partition/somewhere else, so you can download any app you like. Most roms do this automatically if your cache partition is small. By making it bigger than 2MB, you are either wasting the extra space if its still small enough to be redirected, or you are restricting the size of apps you can download if its too big to be redirected.
Amphoras said:
If you changed your partition sizes, your rom and all your data would be wiped. If you made a backup before, you could restore it afterwards as long as it could fit in the new sizes (eg. if your rom took up 160MB in system just now, and you changed system to 170MB then it would fit so you could restore it, same for other partitions).
Size for the partitions depends on what rom you are wanting to install. Some like Swedish Snow can fit in 128MB system, others like the ICS ones need ~180MB or bigger.
As your current layout is big enough for any rom out now, you'd be better making an ext partition on your phone and using that. S2E from Google Play works well with CM7 and lets you move most, if not everything, on the data partition to the ext partition. Its usually best just to move apps, but it means you can have loads of space. You can choose the size of ext partition depending on how big your sdcard is and how much space you need.
2MB is the minimum for cache. You can redirect the market downloads to data/ext partition/somewhere else, so you can download any app you like. Most roms do this automatically if your cache partition is small. By making it bigger than 2MB, you are either wasting the extra space if its still small enough to be redirected, or you are restricting the size of apps you can download if its too big to be redirected.
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I stated 20mb as minimum because Tilal recommended 20mb for ColdFusion and I would rather change partition sizes once than doing it repeatedly.
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Well, I did few things.
I did what QuantumFoam suggested, partitioned my old 2GB card that was already in phone, created EXt partition of 512MB, to try if it work. I'we made backup on PC, but when I rebooted few of apps I had on sd desapeared, also all my music, pictures, wallpapers and other stuff.
Question I have now is should I copy all the things from PC back to SD and where.
Thanks all of you guys for helping me and having so much patience with me.
karthiknr said:
I stated 20mb as minimum because Tilal recommended 20mb for ColdFusion and I would rather change partition sizes once than doing it repeatedly.
Sent from my ZTE Blade using XDA app
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That's because ColdFusion didn't have the redirect script added yet. If you add that, then 2MB is fine for it as well.
ZeChe said:
Well, I did few things.
I did what QuantumFoam suggested, partitioned my old 2GB card that was already in phone, created EXt partition of 512MB, to try if it work. I'we made backup on PC, but when I rebooted few of apps I had on sd desapeared, also all my music, pictures, wallpapers and other stuff.
Question I have now is should I copy all the things from PC back to SD and where.
Thanks all of you guys for helping me and having so much patience with me.
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I think creating the ext partition formats the whole card. If you plug your phone into your pc and turn on usb storage, you should see it appear with ~1.5GB space. You can copy all the stuff back onto there and it should work again. You might have to reinstall the apps that were moved to the sdcard, don't know if just copying them back will work.
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I think creating the ext partition formats the whole card. If you plug your phone into your pc and turn on usb storage, you should see it appear with ~1.5GB space. You can copy all the stuff back onto there and it should work again. You might have to reinstall the apps that were moved to the sdcard, don't know if just copying them back will work.
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I did that, reinstalled few apps and it works, thx.
Have one more question, if you all don't mind
I know that these questions sound stupid, but as I said, I'm new to all of this and have a strong will to learn.
Is it possible to switch this card with bigger one I have, without flashing ROM again?
If it is, I would apritiate If someone could point me to some guide, because I presume it is not easy task and I think I bothered you enought already.
If it isn't possible, can I then format new card on my PC,copy ROM on it, partition it from CM recovery and then install ROM and all of the apps?
Thx again
Hi, is there a better ROM than Elite 2.3.5 for the ZTE Blade v880 256MB RAM ? (That is all I seemed to dig up from earlier this year in January posts.)
I picked this up for g/f thinking I could flash it same as my San Francisco but never saw it only had 256MB RAM vs (tight as it is) 512MB in my SF.
I'm guessing that Konstakang ICS won't work in it due to size constraints. ?
I have 48 hours to dig up a better ROM for it as it is quite bad/slugish as it is with 2.2.2 stock ROM before my 1-week return warranty expires.
I'll be looking into external SD partition and cache to free up more space as I never knew about this smart trick.
Asian Blade Gen 2
Current partition size:
System 220 MB
Data 162 MB
Cache 37 MB
You could always try cm7
ZTE Blade | Asus Transformer TF300T
QuantumFoam said:
You could always try cm7
ZTE Blade | Asus Transformer TF300T
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Thanks QuantumFoam !
Going by the fact it is a 256MB Asian blade, will I be able to install clockwork mod on it and install ICS with the trimmed down ROM/cache footprint ? Any known restrictions ? I don't want to brick it due to some obscure code glitch....!
Asian Blade Gen 2 (Stock Sucky 2.2 ROM)
Current partition size:
System 220 MB
Data 162 MB
Cache 37 MB
MY SF is Euro Blade Gen 2 (ICS Konstakang 10/12 ROM)
Current partition size:
System 138 MB
Data 315 MB
Cache 2 MB
On system and cache comparisons, I'd regain 117 MB...significant if an app my girlfriend needs cannot be moved to SD card.
I think the order is :-
Simple root
Use some kind of TPT tool to tweak system/data sizes (?)
Install Clockwork Mod
Dump my ROM (CM7/ ICS) and GAPPS on fat32 formatted SD
Then I have to look for a SD format tool and cache-to-SD-card util. ?
best not to tpt an asian 256mb blade. not unless you find one specifically designed for that particular model. a bad tpt can brick it. clockworkmod can partition & format your sd card, s2e can move your apps & data to an ext partition on your card, then there's no reason to tpt at all & it's better. tpt is only needed for old 'gen1' european blades & san franciscos which were sold with android 2.1. either root it using some root exploit app & use rom manager to install clockworkmod, or use fastboot to flash clockworkmod.
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best not to tpt an asian 256mb blade. not unless you find one specifically designed for that particular model. a bad tpt can brick it. clockworkmod can partition & format your sd card, s2e can move your apps & data to an ext partition on your card, then there's no reason to tpt at all & it's better. tpt is only needed for old 'gen1' european blades & san franciscos which were sold with android 2.1. either root it using some root exploit app & use rom manager to install clockworkmod, or use fastboot to flash clockworkmod.
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Brilliant wbaw.Thanks
I managed to root,clockwork it and install ICS stable since my last post from a guide elsewhere.
My remaining bug is the partition scheme/cache is still there from the old ROM and I wonder is there an app to do resizing vs a TPT more techie boot level method ?
Current partition size:
System 156MB on 220 MB old space
Data 54 MB on 162 MB old space
Cache 1.19 MB on 37 MB old space
Free space is now............32 MB when there is 100MB that could be reclaimed........aaaaaaaaaaaaah !
Any other must-have apps that will optimise such a tight 256MB internal MEMORY ?
MunkyNutz said:
Brilliant wbaw.Thanks
I managed to root,clockwork it and install ICS stable since my last post from a guide elsewhere.
My remaining bug is the partition scheme/cache is still there from the old ROM and I wonder is there an app to do resizing vs a TPT more techie boot level method ?
Current partition size:
System 156MB on 220 MB old space
Data 54 MB on 162 MB old space
Cache 1.19 MB on 37 MB old space
Free space is now............32 MB when there is 100MB that could be reclaimed........aaaaaaaaaaaaah !
Any other must-have apps that will optimise such a tight 256MB internal MEMORY ?
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So I have :-
disabled dithering,
set CPU to performance
and enabled 16-bit graphics
found the swiftbootloader to change system size + cache on a windows machine with .net framework
and just used CWM to create an ext partition of 1GB on SD & 256 MB swap................
When I look in Settings------> Apps----------->Running it still has 0-10MB of free ram........with no sign of the SD card overspill Swap.
Do you need to enable SD cache swap somewhere and is this the same as "compcache" ?
I'm 100% determined to crack this 256MB RAM Blade nonsense so ICS works on it smoothly.
Oh well I had to wipe ICS and install a step up from stock , a custom 2.3.7 from one of the ROM's made by a member here.
Just working and no more.
I did all the performace optimizers possible on ICS, made partition on SD ,used app2sd on and on but as it has only 256MB ,facebook, Viber and the OS would just grind it to a halt with the homescreen disappearing or apps just crashing.
I just could not work out how to format the internal SD for optimal sizes or know if the VRAM I set up in CWM was being utilised. I just find it hard at times to follow full-time coder instructions, too many abbreviations that us no coders don't get or steps that are differnent to my screen !!!
This custom 2.3.7 is nice anyway. Thanks. I should have read the small print on the spec sheet before buying. I thought 256MB Blades were well and truly gone.