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Does anyone have an expected release date for this yet? I may be moving from the UK to the US soon so just wondering what to get and where to get it!
HTC insn't going into full scale production untill autumn.
And it's usefullness in the USA wil be somewhat limited.
It only has Tri band GSM so will be incompatible with some networks, also the 3G radio is a different standard in the USA to the Euro 3G - CDMA V W-CDMA I believe, but I'm sure someone will highlight what the acronym is. Thats why no USA networks have expressed any desire to release the Universal - maybe there will be another model bought out for the USA markets...
There will be a USA release eventually. HTC would be stupid to not make a version of the Universal that worked well in the USA.
There's lots of speculation on various message boards that HTC has already created a USA version of the Universal. Supposedly, it's being called "Apache" while it's still in testing.
There are lots of people in the USA using HTC devices right now. I can't imagine HTC deciding not to accept anymore money from those USA customers.
Pretty much everyone with an HTC device (or any other brand of Pocket PC for that matter) will give the Universal serious consideration when it's released. If HTC just ignored them, well that would not be a sound business decision.
Expect a version of the Universal to be released in the USA for use on the new EVDO networks (Sprint and Verizon).
Now Sprint and Verizon may decide not to carry the device, but I fully expect HTC to at least offer it to them.
do sprint and verizon even offer gsm(sim) cards? i bought my jam from dubai when i was over there for summer vacation and now i'm using it with cingular. and if the device is released in the US it would be a while after its released in the UK and rest of the world. If you haven't noticed USA is really behind in the cell phone market.
USA may be behind in the cell phone market, but all of the previous HTC products were released in the USA, so I don't see why the Universal would be any different.
The Wizard will be released in the USA, so why not the Universal? I could definitely see HTC ,aking a version for the USA. And probably making a CDMA version as well.
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Sorry Guys, But Cellphone Networks in USA sux! Your mobile phone carries got the "older model" planns to sell devices. Europe and Asia is at leats 5 years advanced than USA.
Here in Brazil GSM Networks are since 2002 so we got euro carriers with new terminals, 3G is already here.
HTC is preparing a special edition for you guys
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What are you talking about? USA networks may be behind, in general, but both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is pretty up to date technology.
HTC may very well be preparing a special version, but I highly doubt Brazil is getting anyting more technically advanced than the USA (from HTC at least)...
HTC sent the same Harrier and Blue Angel to the USA that they sent everywhere else. HTC is also sending the same Wizard to the USA that they sent everywhere else. Why should the Universal be any different?
Well, it might be a little different (hopefully it will be made for CDMA/EVDO).
your carriers are well behind the uk and most of the rest of the world-maybe not 5 years though!the universal will be the same as the jam release wise-asia then europe then the us.just a shame your carriers are so slow that they cannot utilise the new technology the universal bringsand what is with using a different frequency (850) is it just to be awkward?!lol.l have no doubts the universal will be available everywhere including the us
First off, I have to say that the Apache is not a CDMA version of the universal. Rather, it is a CDMA version of the wizard.
Second, yes the USA networks are a little behind the rest of the world. It sucks that we have to wait for new devices months after they have been released to the rest of the world. However, that may be changing. Check out the last couple pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813&start=125
It is looking more and more like the new 6700 sprint will be releasing is the Apache. Right now the target release date is sometime from August to October. This would be amazing because it would be (as far as I know) the first 5.0 device released anywhere. It would be released in the US before Europe and Asia, and it would even be release before the wizard was released anywhere.
So maybe the US is catching up. Here's hoping
The USA networks are not lagging behind Europe and Asia. At least not all of them. Again, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is not lagging in any way. EVDO is a 3G technology, and it fully supports all the features on any of todays cell phones (even the Universal). The only thing is the networks are CDMA. But CDMA is not lagging behing the rest of the world either.
Actaully saltydawg, only verizon has EV-DO right now. Sprint won't be lauch there's till the end of the year. We should start seeing EV-DO phones coming out soon though.
As for what I said abou the USA being behind, that was mainly in reference to the delay in getting new phones to the US.
Zach
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Sprint does have EVDO right now man. Currently the only devices that officially support it are laptop data cards. People have got it working on their PPC-6600's as well though.
But yes, we should start seeing lots more EVDO devices released soon...
You have got to be kidding me if you think US networks do not lag behind European networks. By the time we get something new, Europe is already moved on to the next best thing. We are at least 2-3 if not 5-7 years behind.
SaltyDawg,
That makes more sense. I guess they just aren't really promoting that. It's pretty cool that some of the 6600s have got that to work though. There is supposed to be an official sprint update for the 6600 coming out in october I think.
Zach
We can argue all day about whether or not the US lags behind in mobile network technology. Whan I can say is that when US carriers decide to go with a technology, it does take awhile to rollout.
HOWEVER, let's think about this. All of the countries we're being compared to are approx 10% of the size of the US. Individual European countries and their respective carriers have NO IDEA what a rollout in the US takes in terms of material, resources, and most importantly, money. Even the whole of Europe doesn't compare in size to the Continental USA.
Cut us a break, guys...
GSM Technology in the US
well, you can argue all day about this but i would say that the US is way behind but we've been catching up some how ... the three main countries which keep on using CDMA is the US, Japan& Korea ... so if anybody really wants a really good phone for the verizon and sprint networks just look at what's available in japan ... they actually have 8.0Mp camera phones out ... while everybody's working on catching up here in the US ... Verizon is actually owned by VODAFONE that is why verizon was first in coming out with 3G with the help of their cousins across the pond ... which i am wondering why t-mobile doesn't use their connection being t-mobile ... the largest global wireless company (they have service in most of the countries in the industrialized world ... they even have dibs on singtel which is one of the powerful wireless carriers in asia) ...
t-mobile usa and t-mobile uk don't even work together (as per comment by one of the tech support people from t-mobile usa) ... i was trying to set up blackberry connect on my Sony Ericsson P910i which was from T-Mobile UK but our friends from T-Mobile US told me that they can't assist me ... so i ended up doing it myself ... as usual ....
hopefully the US gets hold of more phones, marketing somewhat sucks y'know ... i guess it's all about the blackberry over here in the US .... which, personally has an ugly interface and worse conventional phones which are almost as expensive as Palm, Pocket PC, and Symbian devices ...
Well the bottom line is not all USA networks a lagging way behind Europe and Asia. At least not anymore. Sprint and Verizon both have EVDO. EVDO is a 3G technology. So no way can anyone say Sprint and Verizon are lagging way behind Europe and Asia.
Now the phones they release on those networks may be a different story. But again, that has nothing to do with HTC. HTC releases the same phones in the USA that they release in Europe and Asia. So anyone saying HTC won't release the Universal in the USA is not looking at the recent history. And anyone saying all USA networks are lagging behind Europe and Asia is not looking at the present. Sprint and Verizon, with their EVDO, specifically.
UMTS in the USA
All I can say is soon, as in September/October UMTS will be deployed in 9 major cities in the US. The carrier in question already has a re-branded BlueAngel for sale. Word from marketing is that shortly after UMTS is deployed they will start carrying one of the re-branded HTC Universal devices .
I know it's stated everywhere that HTC isn't making a HD with US 3G but as I've posted yesterday I've found a dealer who claimed that he had physical stock of HD's for sale with US 3G. Got another message today stating that he talked to the company and they've indeed confirm that it has US 3G. This is sounding unreal huh? And the guy is offering double refund if the phone isn't US 3G. I've asked hime to just send me a pic of the spec sheet from the manual with the listed HSDPA frequencies. So if the phone indeed has Quad GSM and 3G freq. of 850 and 1900, it would work on the rogers network in canada right? it sounds too good to be true but just wanted to chase down all possiblities.
Keeping my fingers crossed~~
I think we've all accepted that US3G is not available.
Please make sure this guy is not going to scam you. I recommend making sure he set's up an eBay auction and use PayPal plus your credit card if you purchase from him.
BUT when I purchase bleeding edge euro spec phones they always seem to release a US 3G variant shortly afterward making me spend even more. This brings bad memories of Nokia not announcing or denying US 3G on their handsets, then just a few months later they release it with the US 3G bands.
to be honest, it seems like a scam so beware
why not post the persons ebay store and all that so all of us can check it out
then again all touch hd specs state there is no usa 3g support
just be careful
Hey there,
I am just about to purchase a HTC HD2 from China.
I have asked for the Pre configured English version, however is there any thing else that i should be concerned about before purchasing?
I looked it up on Alibaba site..
They say it comes with an international warranty, is in the box etc, but will it work in Australia, with my Optus 3G sim? (Also will it work with other carriers too?)
Any info you could provide would be great,
With thanks in advance.
Shelley said:
Hey there,
I am just about to purchase a HTC HD2 from China.
I have asked for the Pre configured English version, however is there any thing else that i should be concerned about before purchasing?
I looked it up on Alibaba site..
They say it comes with an international warranty, is in the box etc, but will it work in Australia, with my Optus 3G sim? (Also will it work with other carriers too?)
Any info you could provide would be great,
With thanks in advance.
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I would be careful if I were you in checking out the specs. Most HTC phones sold in Asia do not come with the 3G 850Mhz Band. If I am correct, you will need this band to receive 3G services in Australia. Check here to see the specs that come with HTC phones that are legally sold in Asia. Don't confuse GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz support with 3G support. For that you have to look at the specs for HSPA/WCDMA.
I have a HD2 which I bought from Handtec in the UK. I used it on the Telstra Network for a while but it only worked with EDGE. I have since changed to Vodafone and get full 3G for half the price.
I have not tried Optus, so you may need to check what frequencies they use for their 3G Network. The HD2s from overseas doesn't contain the 850Mhz frequency so for Telstra it will only ever get EDGE not full 3G.
Vodafone uses the 900/2100Mhz
Telstra uses 850/2100Mhz, they are apparently getting the 850Mhz on their HD2 Versions released in AUS Q1 2010.
Your HD2 will definitely work in Australia with the Optus network. However if you live in a regional area and change to Telstra you will struggle as the phone has not yet been released with NextG's 850MHz compatibility. Telstra is releasing this phone very soon.
There's a thread discussing this topic already so you should read that too.
Of more concern is maybe where you're getting the phone from. I hope you've got a reputable dealer...
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Your HD2 will definitely work in Australia with the Optus network. However if you live in a regional area and change to Telstra you will struggle as the phone has not yet been released with NextG's 850MHz compatibility. Telstra is releasing this phone very soon.
There's a thread discussing this topic already so you should read that too.
Of more concern is maybe where you're getting the phone from. I hope you've got a reputable dealer...
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le_paulo's right. no matter what network you use in AUS it will work- to varying degrees. as a phone, no worries, but the 3G/EDGE issue you will need to take into account.
try this list of vendors xda forum users have used;
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Leo/Vendors
like i said before I used Handtec, they seem to have a good rep and it only took 2 weeks to get to darwin from the uk.
Shelley said:
Hey there,
I am just about to purchase a HTC HD2 from China.
I have asked for the Pre configured English version, however is there any thing else that i should be concerned about before purchasing?
I looked it up on Alibaba site..
They say it comes with an international warranty, is in the box etc, but will it work in Australia, with my Optus 3G sim? (Also will it work with other carriers too?)
Any info you could provide would be great,
With thanks in advance.
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About working and not working other freinds informed you, but be careful there will be no warranty if you purchase it from china. I dont know HTC is having global warranty service in Australia or not.
I am a victim I purchased Touch HD from Hong Kong (and it is not working now) & I am living in UAE, my full value of mobile wasted as here no global warranty available. HTC is telling me to send the phone to Hong Kong.
miannaeemd said:
About working and not working other freinds informed you, but be careful there will be no warranty if you purchase it from china. I dont know HTC is having global warranty service in Australia or not.
I am a victim I purchased Touch HD from Hong Kong (and it is not working now) & I am living in UAE, my full value of mobile wasted as here no global warranty available. HTC is telling me to send the phone to Hong Kong.
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Do you have any HTC service centers UAE? I checked with the HTC headquarters in Taiwan and their response was to first seek help from an HTC service center, and if they cannot fix it, the phone would be sent back to the country of origin. Of course, Taiwan itself has good HTC service centers. I have no idea about HTC service centers in UAE or Australia.
Don't buy anything searched on alibaba.com or china...
I know its late for me... but maybe for anyone else not... DON'T BUY ANYTHING ON alibaba.com...
A month ago, searching for HTC HD2 T9193 on alibaba... and I found many who sell it... as low as $183/unit on 2 minimun units... so I tried it and here are the results:
I have received same amount of phones that I have ordered (3) but Chinesse copies of Nokia N97s!... and the response of the person who sold it to me... "there could be a problem with the cargo company, we are waiting their response"... and here I am... a month later waiting for "the cargo company to give them an answer!"...
So if either of you want to buy anything and searched on alibaba.com... at least don't do with these people:
Moninka
www dot werternmars dot com
westernmars at hotmail dot com
westernmars1 at hotmail dot com
As others said, they only receive Western Union or Money Gram transfer (not paypal neither credit card)... and the prices are very low...
My Dell rep, said he would ship asap when it is on their website.
Will this unlocked version work on 3G for TMOUS.?
We have yet to see any physical proof of any of the devices out there having the 1700 3G band for T-Mobile. My only hope is from @MattatDell on twitter saying yesterday that the US Streak will have "final hardware". I hope that means a different radio chip to support T-Mobile 3G.
I'm still on the fence if I'm going to jump ship on T-Mobile to go to AT&T for this device. I guess I'm waiting on some official specs, dates, and pricing before deciding.
NICE thanks for the info.
There is a confirmed Texas give away Dell streak with tmobile 3G... A user posted an eBay link to the seller and with a working tmoble 3G sim. The post is in this forum.
Telus has a "Coming Soon" indicator on their site. PdaPlaza has a Silver and Black 32GB unlocked One for an availability date slotted on March 25th for $680 outright. I am not seeing the 700MHz frequency for LTE on the PdaPlaza 32GB phone. Rogers has the same Telus phone for $149.99 on a 3yr contract.
I would love the Developer Edition in Canada. I think I will wait and buy that online with 64GB and LTE.
http://www.pdaplaza.ca/brands/HTC.html
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/htc_one/index.shtml
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wirelessBuyFlow?forwardTo=PhoneThenPlan&productType=normal&productId_Detailed=801AGRY&N=52+11+4294965972
The HTC One is 149.99$ with a 3 years contract on the Rogers website BTW
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...productId_Detailed=801AGRY&N=52+78+4294948360
Disappointing that the Rogers version is only 32GB. I wonder if Telus or AT&T will offer the 64GB at launch. Of course there will be the developer version with 64GB but us Canadians can't order it easily
mickliq said:
Disappointing that the Rogers version is only 32GB. I wonder if Telus or AT&T will offer the 64GB at launch. Of course there will be the developer version with 64GB but us Canadians can't order it easily
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3 Year contract. GASP.
Screw contracts I always end up trading my phones. KIJIJI TIME!!!
I only buy off-contract
Will this phone work on koodo or virgin mobile? I heard virgin mobile will be getting it, but i can't find any information on their site. The reason i am asking is that i am moving back to Canada at the end of March and need to get a phone and phone plan and im looking at koodoo/virgin as they use the telus/bell network and provide the best plans for the buck. Would love to get this phone.
**** Canadian Providers... We get a 20$ discount for the privilege of selling our souls for an extra year.
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Any sightings of the 64 gb?
I haven't seen the 64GB anywhere yet...
Seems Telus and Rogers at least mention the phone. Any word on Bell? I know they are listed as one of the carriers will have it, but any pre-order information or pricing?
I just saw that PDA Plaza states the release of the unlocked One will be available April 4th.
Edit: nevermind.
HTC One on Bell Canada
Kewjoe said:
Seems Telus and Rogers at least mention the phone. Any word on Bell? I know they are listed as one of the carriers will have it, but any pre-order information or pricing?
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A few days ago I called HTC to inquire about the possibility of the One's release on Bell. Sadly the representative told me that Bell was not listed as one of the supported carriers, and although it may change, it isn't too likely. I was told to give it a month to get a solid answer, but for the time being, the phone was listed only for Rogers and Telus.
And Bell again misses out on HTC's best (the previous being the One X)...
If I don't hear otherwise by the time the One is actually released, I will pull the trigger on the unlocked edition =]
WolfDale7 said:
A few days ago I called HTC to inquire about the possibility of the One's release on Bell. Sadly the representative told me that Bell was not listed as one of the supported carriers, and although it may change, it isn't too likely. I was told to give it a month to get a solid answer, but for the time being, the phone was listed only for Rogers and Telus.
And Bell again misses out on HTC's best (the previous being the One X)...
If I don't hear otherwise by the time the One is actually released, I will pull the trigger on the unlocked edition =]
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Pretty sure HTC Canada said it was coming to Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus. I know Virgin made a Google+ post with the HTC One in the picture announcing they were going to get it. Here's the post.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114690734353801784595/posts/6vs4bYArBWQ
Since Virgin Mobile is a subsidiary of Bell Canada, they probably have some loopholes to switch carriers like Rogers had with Fido, where if you sign a new 3 year term with them (Virgin), Bell would wave any early cancellation fees as long as you've been with them for a year or more since, you are essentially resigning with the same company. You'd have to call Bell and find out if that would be an option for you, (providing they actually don't get the HTC One), then you could just get it through Virgin, if Bell allows this. I was able to do this with Rogers when I wanted to switch to Fido.
My guess is that Bell is holding out on announcing new phones until they can clear out old inventory. I expect an announcement next week or the week after.
Wind Mobile
I'm looking to get the developer edition or any unlocked version on-line.
Can anyone confirm if this will work on Wind Mobile with full network functionality/capabilities?
Thanks
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Pretty sure HTC Canada said it was coming to Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus. I know Virgin made a Google+ post with the HTC One in the picture announcing they were going to get it. Here's the post.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114690734353801784595/posts/6vs4bYArBWQ
Since Virgin Mobile is a subsidiary of Bell Canada, they probably have some loopholes to switch carriers like Rogers had with Fido, where if you sign a new 3 year term with them (Virgin), Bell would wave any early cancellation fees as long as you've been with them for a year or more since, you are essentially resigning with the same company. You'd have to call Bell and find out if that would be an option for you, (providing they actually don't get the HTC One), then you could just get it through Virgin, if Bell allows this. I was able to do this with Rogers when I wanted to switch to Fido.
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That sounds like a plan -- just willing to see if Bell wouldn't mind the switch, then I'm all set =]
I did call HTC again today though.. Just to see if they had an update. Funny how Bell wasn't able to confirm Virgin as a carrier -- horrible logistics. They did tell me that if Virgin does end up releasing it and Bell doesn't, I can just buy it outright and use it with Bell (already knew this ofc). But I want a subsidized phone .
Not gonna stop me from getting my hands on that wonder of a phone. Just can't wait for it to hit us here =]
I work for Bell and I can confirm, through HTC's rep, that Bell is getting it. I don't know for sure about Virgin but I would say yes also, maybe with a small delay.
Launch was supposed to be on March 22nd, but there are manufacturing delays and well, no date as of right now.
You guys have any info about the developer edition in Canada ? I'd love to get one of those...
qzcgd said:
I work for Bell and I can confirm, through HTC's rep, that Bell is getting it. I don't know for sure about Virgin but I would say yes also, maybe with a small delay.
Launch was supposed to be on March 22nd, but there are manufacturing delays and well, no date as of right now.
You guys have any info about the developer edition in Canada ? I'd love to get one of those...
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****. That is horrible
I was hoping Virgin Mobile would have this phone next week as i need to signup for a plan next week
twizller said:
****. That is horrible
I was hoping Virgin Mobile would have this phone next week as i need to signup for a plan next week
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Since you always have 14 days to change your mind and take another phone you should be ok