Here is a question about Wifi sleep that seems pretty obvious to me, but in case I am wrong I will ask here.
You enable Wifi, which shuts off 3G (but keeps 1X active). Now Wifi goes to sleep (when the phone is in your pocket), and while Wifi is sleeping, someone sends you a GMail. I assume that you will NOT get any push notifications while Wifi is snoozing away???
You should have WiFi set to not sleep.
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To expand on Beezer80's comment, you will have better battery life if you set your wifi sleep policy to never sleep. Your power is drained faster with repeated search and connect actions by your phone, so you'd be better off keeping the pipeline open all the time.
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i'm sorry if this is noob, but i've recently taken into increasing the epic's battery. i'm trying to use wifi more and i'm doing the sleep policy never thing. but i don't think i get push emails anymore when the phone is locked (screen shut off). This is normal right? that wifi turns off when the screen is off, even with the sleep policy off? I'm kinda a freak about the push email - i like having it instantly. Thanks.
I leave wifi on 100% of the time with it set to never sleep and still get email notifications. I hear them start to come in every morning before I get out of bed.
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I have set my wifi sleep policy as 'when screen turns off'. However, on doing a packet capture on my wireless access point, I still see some data from the tablet. Also, emails to my tablet email address cause a lot more data and the tablet responds to pings too
Isn't the wifi sleep policy supposed to turn the wifi radio off?
Thanks in advance!
yes, it should but I think wifi is not shutting down immediately after screen off, only after a few minutes or so.
Yea I noticed the same thing... its killing my battery wish this worked properly
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Found out that I need to disable Airsync to get wifi to stay asleep. My idle battery is 20% of what it was before since wifi would never sleep. Don't know if you have DoubleTwist airsync or not but I lose 5 - 6% per day now.
anthesca said:
Found out that I need to disable Airsync to get wifi to stay asleep. My idle battery is 20% of what it was before since wifi would never sleep. Don't know if you have DoubleTwist airsync or not but I lose 5 - 6% per day now.
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ah,where to disable Airsync?
thank you
Hey guys, I have a slightly related issue.
My device just won't turn its Wi-Fi off when it goes to sleep! I've tried both the advanced settings of, while plugged in and never, and both are not working add evidenced by the battery graphs.
Any fix or solutions?
- As of now I've taken my device out of its flip case/stand, assuming that the magnet in it has something to do with the Wi-Fi remaining on.
Update - ^ did not work.
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OK simple answer if u dont manually turn it off it is not suppose to turn off on its own (if it did it would be wrong).
You are selecting
1.While plugged in
2.Never
Both suggest are telling your tablet not to turn off the wifi (only make it go sleep when screen is off and dont go to sleep when the tab is charging).
I am guessing now you are talking about wifi sleep not turning it off. If i am correct then trust me wifi is sleeping dont pay attention to the battery stats.
and if you want to make wifi turn off then use some 3rd party app that turn off wifi auto or just manually turn off the wifi when not using.
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Good Luck.
This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the 3 choices. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it.
#Its only for those beginners who dont know about this setting...
dont you mean tick always, as if you tick never itll go back to using your dataplan instead of the wifi
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I use to believe this but for some reason on my sgs3 wifi drains more battery I get more juice with wifi off.
Results may very due to your services supporting fast dormancy, etc.
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koolshubh said:
This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the 3 choices. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it.
#Its only for those beginners who dont know about this setting...
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You need to choose "Always", not "Never". If you choose "never", then it disconnect wifi as soon as display is turned off.
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I use to believe this but for some reason on my sgs3 wifi drains more battery I get more juice with wifi off.
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If you're moving out of wifi range, or in and out of wifi range, turning wifi off will use less power as associating with an AP has a high energy cost. But as the original poster says, if you're going to be sitting in one place all day e.g. at home or at the office where your phone will always be connected to an AP, leaving wifi on and always connected will use less power than 3G.
More details here:
http://people.cs.umass.edu/~arun/papers/TailEnder.pdf
I suppose it's not that surprising. I'm sure many of us, after buying a new phone, have left the old one sitting around at home without a SIM card but connected to wifi, still polling emails and everything. The battery lasts ages!
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This might be irrelevant, but i red an article her in xda about modern mobiles battery long time ago.the article said that when wifi on or off has no significance effect on battery life (regardless of other sitting like carrier signal .....etc)
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SlimJ87D said:
I use to believe this but for some reason on my sgs3 wifi drains more battery I get more juice with wifi off.
Results may very due to your services supporting fast dormancy, etc.
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Apparently FD doesn't affect battery life that much (See here, second post). I get better battery life on wifi and I think that's still the case for the majority of people if they are within a wifi area.
I tried and with option "always" I have more battery drain, cca. 2%/h in idle/screen off/overnight. With old setup when Wi-Fi is off in case screen goes off, I have cca. 1.6%/h. So, it doesn't work for me. Thanks anyway.
What ive found is to turn your 3g to 2g, that will save a LOT of battery. I use 3g if im out and about where theres no wifi, if im at work i dont use my phone often so switch 3g to 2g. It still brings my notifications in time. And at night switch to 2g as well.
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Raz88 said:
What ive found is to turn your 3g to 2g, that will save a LOT of battery. I use 3g if im out and about where theres no wifi, if im at work i dont use my phone often so switch 3g to 2g. It still brings my notifications in time. And at night switch to 2g as well.
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But that's a no brainer! Of course battery life will last a lot longer on 2G! Your battery life will also last a lot longer if you have no data connectivity. The discussion here is between data and wifi.
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Thanks good tip
So I posted this in a different thread but figured I would post it here to see if anyone could duplicate my findings. I have a Note3 from T-Mobile and for whatever reason leaving the Wi-Fi on will not allow the phone to go into deep sleep mode. I noticed when I was down to 40% battery after 10 hours with only one hour of screen on time. After running some tests I had only 2 minutes of deep sleep those entire 10 hours (tested using BetterBatteryStats) I tried setting "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to Never and unchecking "Always allow scanning" under advanced network settings but neither of them fix the issue. In fact, after several tests I concluded that setting never for "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" wasn't even functioning as my access points still showed the client connected while the phone was asleep.
Can anyone else confirm this issue is actually a bug and not just my phone being defective?
Here's my original post on the topic regarding how I found the problem and what I have tested so far:
OK so after only 2 days of owning this phone (got it late Monday night, the T-Mobile variant) I finally figured out why I'm getting such bad battery, and I suspect the same thing may be happening for the other people in this thread. Hopefully this information helps at least one person.
My battery stats was almost identical to all the other users in this thread that had bad battery, I would get barely around 10-12 hours on the phone with less than 2 hours of screen on time. After using multiple apps to track down the issue I finally got what it was.
Wireless. Yes, wireless was my cause. But the thing is Wi-Fi didn't show up at all in any of the battery apps so I assumed it was a non issue. I've had other phones and have always kept the wireless turned on the entire time without problems. The basic problem is not that Wi-Fi is using power itself but it's that by default the phone cannot enter deep sleep while connected to Wi-Fi. This is why trying to use apps like BetterBatteryStats will lead you nowhere initially (though they were useful in finding out what was causing the issue) You can discover this by turning on Wi-Fi and connecting the phone to a charger, then disconnecting it so your BBS information will reset. Then power off the screen and power it back on after 10 minutes. You'll notice in the other section that deep sleep will have less than a minute time while awake probably has close to 9 minutes, if not more. This is with everything else turned off, almost no apps, and no special Samsung stuff enabled.
Under Apps > Settings > Wi-Fi > Menu > Advanced there are two options that should help this: "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" and "Always allow scanning" I set the "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to Never and unchecked Always allow scanning and rebooted the phone. And low and behold...nothing. Yes, these options don't work (at least not to fix this problem) The phone still won't enter deep sleep mode while the wireless is enabled. Based on my company's wireless devices I can see that even with the screen off for well over 10 minutes it still shows connected as a client meaning the wireless is not turning off properly while it's in sleep mode. Or perhaps it can't go into sleep mode because the wireless is on which stops it from going into sleep mode and turning off the wireless. My guess is that it's a Samsung bug.
The reason why there's so many people here to get good battery usage is because they're either used to turning Wi-Fi on only when needed and keeping it off. You'll also not notice it if you have more than 6 hours of screen on time because you could easily assume that it would make sense that you phone would only last 10 hours total with that much screen on time, even though it should have technically lasted 20+ hours with only 6 hours of screen on time if the phone could have entered deep sleep.
So what's the real fix for this? Unless it's by design my belief is that it's a bug and won't be fixed until Samsung/T-mobile notices. I can't test to see if the same thing happens on other carriers so if someone feels like testing this theory out it would help.
For now, I guess we're just left to manually turning Wi-Fi on only when needed and leaving it off in all other cases. For those that have the T-mobile variant, make sure you also go into Settings > General > Backup and reset > Collect diagnostics and uncheck the "Allow Diagnostics" as that will probably be the highest offender of Partial Wakelocks (it'll show up as com.carrieriq.tmobile.wakelock or System Manager Application)
If anyone wants more information on my testing let me know!
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That's because the 'Keep WiFi during sleep: Never" setting only disconnects, it doesn't shut down the WiFi radio.
You're going to have to use a manager (Like Deep Sleep Battery Saver).
Or just hit the toggle yourself... If you're going to keep it disconnected in sleep anyway, just swipe down the notification bar and hit the bloody toggle.
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That's because the 'Keep WiFi during sleep: Never" setting only disconnects, it doesn't shut down the WiFi radio.
You're going to have to use a manager (Like Deep Sleep Battery Saver).
Or just hit the toggle yourself... If you're going to keep it disconnected in sleep anyway, just swipe down the notification bar and hit the bloody toggle.
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The problem is that it doesn't disconnect, the access point 100% shows it is connected and transferring data every now and then. But the real issue isn't weather it disconnects or not but it's the fact that Wi-Fi will not allow the phone to go into deep sleep mode. For now I am fine with switching Wi-Fi off and on as needed, but with no other phone have I needed to do this before and definitely seems like a bug.
But regardless, what I'm trying to figure out if this is a legit bug that I should submit to Samsung/T-mobile or if it's just my phone and I should ask for a replacement. If anyone has BetterBatteryStats and could test this with their Note3 that would help.
My stupid phone has just started this same issue!!!! Freaking annoying, after only 8 hrs from 100% charged state, the battery is at 46% with only 26 mins screen ontime, I checked out that the phone never goes into deep sleep. What is going on and what can be causing this? Did you manage to resolve your issue?
PS I checked out wakelock detector but doesn't tell me a thing, as what program is keeping the phone awake all the time. Starting to hate this phone and miss my S3
What is your GPS accuracy setting set to? GPS, Wifi or Networks? Try setting it to GPS only.
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So I posted this in a different thread but figured I would post it here to see if anyone could duplicate my findings. I have a Note3 from T-Mobile and for whatever reason leaving the Wi-Fi on will not allow the phone to go into deep sleep mode. I noticed when I was down to 40% battery after 10 hours with only one hour of screen on time. After running some tests I had only 2 minutes of deep sleep those entire 10 hours (tested using BetterBatteryStats) I tried setting "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to Never and unchecking "Always allow scanning" under advanced network settings but neither of them fix the issue. In fact, after several tests I concluded that setting never for "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" wasn't even functioning as my access points still showed the client connected while the phone was asleep.
Can anyone else confirm this issue is actually a bug and not just my phone being defective?
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Well, your issue looks pretty similar to mine, which I solved with this Xposed mod (you could give it a try if you're on KitKat): http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-wi-fi-deep-sleep-t2752947. I was experiencing that even when "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" is set to Never, Wi-Fi still was awake most of the time according to battery stats.