Hi guys,
I'm experiencing some failures of power button of my HTC HD mini: it sometimes does not power on my phone and I have to press it several time before it reacts...
As I do not want to buy a new phone, I'm exploring some alternative approaches to power on my phone (power off is not a problem as I can use some application to power it off).
Approach 1
I'm using G-trigger which has a power on feature which may configured to any phone shake and which works even when the phone is in stand-by.
That works properly but the problem is that querying the G-sensor lead to a fast battery drain, hence this solution is actually an extreme solution that I may use only with some enhancements…
Approach 1a
I tried to work of G-trigger service in two ways:
a. By night: I configured a profile disabling the G-trigger service by night and re-enabling it in the morning
b. When in stand-by: I tried to disable the G-trigger service when in stand-by and re-enabling it when the screen turns on again. Anyway I didn’t figure out how to understand when the screen is on (I tried by mortscript here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296958 but no success). Any idea??
Approach 2
I would try to use some of the volume button but I have no idea about: is there a way to trigger some program when the volume button is pressed when the phone is in stand-by
In conclusion, I don’t know how to proceed and I will appreciate any idea or suggestion.
Thanks in advance
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Hi again, I've just installed mortSaver primarily for turning off the screen but keeping my lecture video audio still running in the background. I've used this excellent application on all my other phones no problem. However on my M700 the buttons dont seem to work ie.Deactivation using assigned button (button 1) + button 2 absolutely does not work. Even using only button 1 for activation AND deactivation doesnt work (deactivation part). Have to get out of it by the escape sequence (2 presses of the power button within 10secs). However this ends up soft-resetting the unit (proper power off).
Any ideas on what to do or alternative applications to deactivate the screen but keep the video running in the background please?
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Hi again, I've just installed mortSaver primarily for turning off the screen but keeping my lecture video audio still running in the background. I've used this excellent application on all my other phones no problem. However on my M700 the buttons dont seem to work ie.Deactivation using assigned button (button 1) + button 2 absolutely does not work. Even using only button 1 for activation AND deactivation doesnt work (deactivation part). Have to get out of it by the escape sequence (2 presses of the power button within 10secs). However this ends up soft-resetting the unit (proper power off).
Any ideas on what to do or alternative applications to deactivate the screen but keep the video running in the background please?
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I used MortSaver on my Jam, which was running WM2003. When I upgraded to a Jamin, I couldn't get it to work anymore. I haven't even tried it with my Trinity because I just assumed that Mortsaver doesn't work properly in WM5. I think it is quite an old version.
Hello,
Mortsaver works fine on my Dopod D810.
Here is a list of my options:
Deactivation:
Screen off timeout: 10
Power off timeout: 10
1st Button: Button 1
2nd Button: None
Show countdown after call: ticked
Other application buttons: unticked
Power
Turn off device: both unticked
This works fine when i'm using mortplayer in the background to listen to music (to unlock press power then voice command button). If this fails you might want to try downloading the latest version from the authors website.
I have my P3600 since Saturday and I updated it with the latest ROM which included the GPS.
Now I’m having problems with the power settings and functionality. I search all the threads for solutions but no similar problems are described so I post a new thread.
Problem 1:
The power settings are: backlight off after 30 sec. power off after 1 min. (on battery power). After 30 sec. the backlight dims to the lowest setting but the device does not switch off after 1 min (or any time for that matter). This is a huge drain on the battery! I can switch off the device with the power button but once it turns on again (e.g. while receiving an SMS or email) it stays on with the dimmed backlight.
Problem 2:
Using a Bluetooth headset and the media player the player pauses when switched of with the power button. This means just listening to music for around an hour and the battery is completely flat. My previous device was a S200 and that worked fine (could be switched off with the power button).
My guess is that both problems may have simple solutions so I’m asking you all to help me with this.
Thanks in advance,
Stefan
niobium said:
I have my P3600 since Saturday and I updated it with the latest ROM which included the GPS.
Now I’m having problems with the power settings and functionality. I search all the threads for solutions but no similar problems are described so I post a new thread.
Problem 2:
Using a Bluetooth headset and the media player the player pauses when switched of with the power button. This means just listening to music for around an hour and the battery is completely flat. My previous device was a S200 and that worked fine (could be switched off with the power button).
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Well for problem 2 you haven't searched enough! Anyway you should not use the power button; go to the Windows Media player settings and map the "Toggle screen" function to a hardware button. Then toggle the screen off when you play music.
Regarding your other problem: what software have you installed? Have you got this problem on a freshly upgraded phone?
The solution you propose for problem 2 probably works for other devices but not for the Trinity. You can only assign buttons up, down, left, right and enter and they are needed within the player for obvious functions.
Problem 1 after fresh ROM update but right after that I installed TomTom 6.
I might try a new ROM update and check but rather as last resort...
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The solution you propose for problem 2 probably works for other devices but not for the Trinity. You can only assign buttons up, down, left, right and enter and they are needed within the player for obvious functions.
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It works for the Trinity too. You can also assign other functions to buttons if you keep them pressed. Toggle screen is assigned to "Hold Down" in my case. So if I press down once I decrease the volume, if I keep pressed I toggle the screen.
As to your first problem; i'm having the same problem too...
To narrow it down a bit; my device turns off (to standby) just like it should when i just briefly check the time or something and then put it away with the todayscreen on (so with no aplications running except some today-plugins ofcourse). However; it DOESN'T go back to sleep when the system has given any sort of notification, like a missed call or a received text-message or reminder for a calendar-item.
So my best guess is that it has something to do with the databases notification que (where WM2003/CE 4 had the problem of overflowing this notification que).
It's really anonying the hell out of me too, cause it really drains the battery fast if you don't discover it soon enough...
As for problem 2; map the screen-toggle to pressing the silver 'enter'button.....that workd great for me. By the way; i'm tinking about getting the new wired media remote control HTC is releasing shortly (check this link). I wonder if these buttons will be mappable.....
Edit: just as i posted this, i received a text message and this time it nicely turned back to standby (ie turned of) state when i didn't check it right away. I did however soft-reset last night before going to sleep. So i really do think it must be in the notification que somewhere, as PocketPlus will still clear that everytime i soft reset. Anyone having the same problem exactly as described ?
Well I found my phone again on after I received an SMS and this made me decide to completely reinstall the original ROM (including the GPS).
Step by step I installed all the applications (and tested the device in between: I started some programs and got some notification).
So far the result is that it all works fine now.
The difference might be the different ROM (from smartmobility.nl in stead of europe.htc.com although the version is exactly the same).
For problem 2: I unmapped the button 1 (was speed dial and moved that one to press&hold). In media player I mapped the button to ‘toggle screen’. I still like the S200 for this better because it only kept the media player & Bluetooth alive so that’s the best for preserving the battery…
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For problem 2: I unmapped the button 1 (was speed dial and moved that one to press&hold). In media player I mapped the button to ‘toggle screen’. I still like the S200 for this better because it only kept the media player & Bluetooth alive so that’s the best for preserving the battery…
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Hmmmm....i do the screen-toggle everytime i use it as a musicplayer, and i get considerable good batterylife....
However, i'm not using the BT headset anymore cause the volume was too dim...i'm using the 3,5mm adapterplug now. But batterylife with bluetooth was about the same when i used it.
After all the work yesterday, this morning the problem with not going to standby occured again!
But now I know more. It happened only after I added some sites to my RSS feedreader.
I use pRSSreader from David Andrs (http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/)
Using the 'update settings' with 'automatically connect' the program tries to create a notification on the today screen if new messages arive.
This notification process is the problem. If I switch it of and soft-reset, the device works fine again.
I will mention this problem to David Andrs...
I hope this will help you as well.
Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
If you lock it, how do you want to wake up the device?
I wouldn't mind finding a way to do something similar. Maybe not lock the button entirely, but make it so that you have to press the power button for a long time (say 3 secs), or press the power button and the hang up button and the same time.
no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
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no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
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No, this wont do what is needed. The Keylock simply stops someone from using the phone. It won't stop the screen from coming on accidental in you pocket.
You can 'lock' the phone from accidental use by pressing and holding the 'hang up' button, but again this has nothing to do with screen activation.
It is true that pulling out the stylus will both switch on and unlock the phone though, so disabling the power button may not be all bad. I still think it would be better to activate the screen via a single long button press, or some such.
Totally agree with swinster's comment and proposal.
- Lock the phone by pressing + holding "hang up" button (already implemented)
- Keep phone locked and screen off until
either stylus is pulled out
or power button and hang-up button are pressed at the same time
But disable screen-on when power button alone is pressed (like it is now).
- Anybody able to implement this proposal?
Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
This would be a great solution.
Mine switches on in my pocket all the time, they should have recessed the button, I thought about trying to remove it.
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Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
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Its a bit of an overkil, but my laptop come with me most places.
Reminds me of the Morecambe and Wise sketch (??) where the battery was the size of a suitcase.
I think I need a car charger - which brings me to another grumble - why didn't they implement a standard mini USB interface?
Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
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Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
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Ooh, Ok. I thought they were different shapes. Will look into this.
[Edit - I have just read that it IS backward compatible with USB - the different shape is becasue the HTC connection supplies audio]
I'm guessing that any old Car Charger with mini USB will work then?
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Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
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When you set EnableInputAtSuspend = 0, it will not unlock the power button at suspend. . It will then only awake via the Stylus. But I do not know if this setting also works on the Diamond2.
I am having some odd problems with mine if i press the power button to put it into standby. Sometimes when i press it it turns itself straight back on others it will come back on if i shake it (like the G Sensor is somehow linked to bringing it out of standby). Can you guys check this so i can confirm if i have a faulty unit please?
I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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Thanks, sounds plausible, I'll call the supplier tomorrow.
I am sure that on my D810 I could set the lock on at zero seconds with no pin code. Then the keylock would come on every time I came out of standby but with no change of accidentally starting applications and making calls.
On my D2 the password is compulsory for keylock.
Any solution here? I don't want a pin code.
I power button fix would be even better to also save battery. The accidental turning on is a very annoying feature.
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I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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ye man,ive got this prob...the phone randomly unlocks bcoz the stylus sensor...im lookin for some application that turns the sensor off....havent found anythin yet...
This is still, by far, the most anoying "feature" of the TD2 phone. I can't believe that HTC did not have the forethought to think that people might actually put the phone in their pockets.
It should be a simple fix so that when the phone is off or in standby, the power button has to be press for say a second before the phone will come on, rather than just a single tap. They can do this to turn the phone off, so why not on?
Hi,
I think there is a problem that with all the knowledge of genius like the TouchInCall-team, the Sleep-team and HW Tweakers could be solved.
Backlight is not completely shut off when locking. This has consequences like:
1. consuming valuabe batterypower
2. giving too much light in my bedroom at night (need a good rest )
3. when using the timed backlight shut off (or the powerbutton) you have to use the powerbutton to switch on the light again. (I love this wonderful apparatus too much to worn out this button within a short period)
So here is my request
Has anyone a brilliant idea to automatically switch off the backlight when locking and switching on when unlocking
Alternative a separate un(locking) tool and a backlight on/off tool could maybe be together designated to a "hardware" button (by AEBplus)
Thanks
ditroy said:
Hi,
I think there is a problem that with all the knowledge of genius like the TouchInCall-team, the Sleep-team and HW Tweakers could be solved.
Backlight is not completely shut off when locking. This has consequences like:
1. consuming valuabe batterypower
2. giving too much light in my bedroom at night (need a good rest )
3. when using the timed backlight shut off (or the powerbutton) you have to use the powerbutton to switch on the light again. (I love this wonderful apparatus too much to worn out this button within a short period)
So here is my request
Has anyone a brilliant idea to automatically switch off the backlight when locking and switching on when unlocking
Alternative a separate un(locking) tool and a backlight on/off tool could maybe be together designated to a "hardware" button (by AEBplus)
Thanks
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A lot of people like to have their devices locked as a safety precaution preventing others from using your phone (especially with code required to unlock), but they still want device on to view any missed calls, sms, voicemail etc.
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Hi,
I think you mean a bit of light makes it possible to still read the screen?
For all clarity: my goal is not a password locking facility. I was referring to the standard locking facility that can be activated by a long press on the hangup button.
It is all a matter of choice of what one finds the most important:
1. one touch of a "hardware"button to switch on backlight (as in the standard locking facility) to make the screen readable
or
2. keeping the backlight always on and worning out battery, powerbutton and nightrest
Too me nr. 1 has only advantages and nr. 2 only disadvantages
So it would be great (and I guess not only to me) if this could be worked out.
Thanks
Hi all,
Can anyone shed some light on this question? How does power consumption differ between always suspend the UNI versus always ScreenOff the UNI, is there a big difference?
P.S. ( Does any one know how to make the middle button become the power on/off button? I tried AEPlus Button and it cannot remap the power switch)
Thanks!!!
During suspend mode, most of the non-essential hardware is turned off (e.g. SD Card is unmounted, Screen off, CPU is under-clocked @ 104 MHz etc.) This mode can be compared with PC S3 mode. In this mode, with all radios off, my device loses max. 3% battery per day.
In screen-off mode, all the hardware except the screen is running (at full speed) and consuming the battery is a matter of hours.
My question is why would you need the screen-of mode? Unless you're using an application which really needs that, my advice is to use suspend if you don't want to charge your device more than once per day.
GNotten
Thanks for the reply. I now confirmed that by actual testing too, and u were 100% right.
P.S. I wanna use screen off mainly b/c I wanna use the middle Enter button to turn on or off the phone. like a iphone style. So the best i can do is to map enter key to control backlight. While it can suspend the device, but it cannot wake the device from suspend since for Uni, i guess the middle Enter key and the navigations keys are not considered as "hardware keys" so i cannot map them to reactive the device.
Thats why I wanna know how to map the enter key as power switch as well.
hope someone knows the way, if there is any.