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Hi,
Anyone has this?
http://www.keomo.com/prod_id3_charge_chargebank.htm
If yes, how good is it?
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If yes, how good is it?
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I can't comment on that one - I have a similar product from APC though and am very happy with it:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=UPB10
Richard
Interesting, but how much is the capacity in mAh?
I saw only 10 Watt hours ...
PS: I ordered Keomo anyway.
rsolomon said:
I can't comment on that one - I have a similar product from APC though and am very happy with it:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=UPB10
Richard
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gogol said:
Interesting, but how much is the capacity in mAh?
I saw only 10 Watt hours ...
PS: I ordered Keomo anyway.
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Please do let us know (here) what you think! How does it charge? (The APC charges via a miniUSB port and outputs via a USB port - so you can use the same wall charger for it as for your miniUSB device.) How much did it cost?
I'm not 100% sure about the APC capacity - at 5V, 10WH is 2000mAh. (Watt hours is just Volts * Amp Hours). If you figure 3.7V lithium cell voltage it might be more like a 2700mAh battery....but since anything with a USB connector has to put out 5V I think 2000mAh is the right number to use - and hope APC rates the capacity at that connector.
The Keomo said it had a 2200mAh battery, so that's only ~8.1 WH. Even assuming 100% efficiency in the 5V upconverter you're at most looking at ~1600 mAh at the USB port. So I suspect the APC has a bit more capacity, though it's definitely larger. The flatness actually makes the size pretty manageable in my experience, but even smaller would of course be even better
Richard
I have not received it yet, hopefully this weekend or next Monday.
The device cost me 35 euro
I like the small factor of Keomo, but honestly, I did not find APC when I was searching this kind of battery. I could choose APC if it has more capacity btw.
For the same price I ordered this one (sorry, german website ):
http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de/index.php?aktion=detail&suche=HTC Kaiser&asuche=HW133335#bilder
A foldable solar panel with a set of different adapters.
Eurybia said:
A foldable solar panel with a set of different adapters.
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Interesting idea - what's the current rating?
I'd be completely shocked (pun intended) if it can even charge a Kaiser battery - I think you'd need a much larger panel to put out even close to the 500mA of a spec USB port....
Regardless it wouldn't work too well for me, since I usually end up using my extended battery on an airplane
Richard
rsolomon said:
Interesting idea - what's the current rating?
I'd be completely shocked (pun intended) if it can even charge a Kaiser battery - I think you'd need a much larger panel to put out even close to the 500mA of a spec USB port....
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Oh wait, I see - it's a battery with integrated solar recharger. Note that it's only 1200mAh or about 4.4WH so half or less the capacities we've been discussing. Having a battery, I at least believe it will work - but you won't have a lot of extra capacity, and I'm curious how many hours of sunshine it needs to recharge fully. Is it possible to charge some other way than the solar panels?
Richard
I am still charging the Keomo
The input is 500 mAh via "mini-USB".
The output is 1000 mAh via "USB-A"
Anyone know how to calculate how long to charge 2200 mAh battery using mini-usb?
gogol said:
The input is 500 mAh via "mini-USB".
The output is 1000 mAh via "USB-A"
Anyone know how to calculate how long to charge 2200 mAh battery using mini-usb?
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mAh is a capacity measurement, not a current measurement.... I assume you mean 500mA and 1000mA. It's just math: 2200mAh / 500mA = 4.4hrs.
Richard
Bad performance
Here is my test and review of Keomo Charger.
My Kaiser was at 48% of battery, and the Keomo was at 100% (I charged more than 15 hours!).
Keomo has 3 indicator lights.
I started charging at 19:02 ...
My Kaiser was at 58% then 1 Keomo light went off ...
My Kaiser was at 75% then another 1 Keomo light went off ...
My Kaiser was at 96% then the last Keomo light went off ... !
The Keomo was dead ....... at 22:15
Total charging time = 3 hours and 13 minutes.
So, conclusion: 100% Keomo battery = +48% Kaiser capacity
Really disappointed to be honest
The Keomo was advertised that it has 2200 mAh capacity. Well, I know nothing about this mAh , battery technology, etc. I thought, Kaiser has 1300 mAh, so this Keomo should be able to charge 100% of Kaiser battery. I was wrong.
Richard, how is your APC perform???
Have you measured 100% APC battery = ???% Kaiser?
You are not far from right
gogol said:
Here is my test and review of Keomo Charger.
My Kaiser was at 48% of battery, and the Keomo was at 100% (I charged more than 15 hours!).
Keomo has 3 indicator lights.
I started charging at 19:02 ...
My Kaiser was at 58% then 1 Keomo light went off ...
My Kaiser was at 75% then another 1 Keomo light went off ...
My Kaiser was at 96% then the last Keomo light went off ... !
The Keomo was dead ....... at 22:15
Total charging time = 3 hours and 13 minutes.
So, conclusion: 100% Keomo battery = +48% Kaiser capacity
Really disappointed to be honest
The Keomo was advertised that it has 2200 mAh capacity. Well, I know nothing about this mAh , battery technology, etc. I thought, Kaiser has 1300 mAh, so this Keomo should be able to charge 100% of Kaiser battery. I was wrong.
Richard, how is your APC perform???
Have you measured 100% APC battery = ???% Kaiser?
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You are very accurate in this conclusion I bought one last weekend, but so far I have used it only twice with similar results! I resisted the urge to post, because there is always a statement about Li ion batteries that they should be cycled through charge-discharge a few times before they attain their full capacity from new. So I hope a few more percentage points will be gained with use
Conclusion: Don't buy it.
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So, conclusion: 100% Keomo battery = +48% Kaiser capacity
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The only flaw I see in your methodology is that having the Kaiser on draws even more current, so you further increase the power "lost" to running the Kaiser vs charging the battery. You should get slightly better results by leaving the Kaiser in standby ("off") and timing until the light goes green. I doubt you're off by THAT much though
Another issue may be the Keomo not putting out enough current - thus the Kaiser sort of loses ground, in other words it's discharging almost as much in X period of time as it's charging due to the slow charge rate. The APC claims to put out 1.6A so the Kaiser should charge at full rate.
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Richard, how is your APC perform???
Have you measured 100% APC battery = ???% Kaiser?
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I had a Hermes for a year or so and used the APC a bunch back then - my rough estimate was 3-4 "charges" from the Hermes at ~40-50% up to 100%. I've not done any calculation with the Kaiser - I will do that and see what I get. It's tougher now because I'm running DirectPush for work and may have a hard time finding time to let the Kaiser run down *and* turn off DirectPush to keep it from sucking up all the power.
I did use up all the APC power on a 9 hour flight from Europe to the USA where I watched 3 hours of video on the plane (full screen MP4 in Windows Media Play) and read a couple of ebooks....but that doesn't tell us much objectively
Richard
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I resisted the urge to post, because there is always a statement about Li ion batteries that they should be cycled through charge-discharge a few times before they attain their full capacity from new.
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FWIW: I hear this a lot online, but my personal experience has never borne it out - and I've never heard it from any of my contacts in the electronics industry.
Richard
You are right that it could charge much more when the Kaiser is in stand by, but that is not the way I want. I want to use the portable battery to "continue" to use Kaiser when it runs out of power.
Based on your story, it looks APC is so much better. You said 3 times or 4 times charging Hermes for additional 50% ... Thats a lot.
Well, I just ordered APC
PS: You may use your mobile phone in a flight? I remembered once I said to the flight attendant that I set to "flight mode", but she still asked me to turn it off
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I had a Hermes for a year or so and used the APC a bunch back then - my rough estimate was 3-4 "charges" from the Hermes at ~40-50% up to 100%. I've not done any calculation with the Kaiser - I will do that and see what I get. It's tougher now because I'm running DirectPush for work and may have a hard time finding time to let the Kaiser run down *and* turn off DirectPush to keep it from sucking up all the power.
I did use up all the APC power on a 9 hour flight from Europe to the USA where I watched 3 hours of video on the plane (full screen MP4 in Windows Media Play) and read a couple of ebooks....but that doesn't tell us much objectively
Richard
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PS: You may use your mobile phone in a flight? I remembered once I said to the flight attendant that I set to "flight mode", but she still asked me to turn it off
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I always do! Turn off all wireless and use the pda. Only barred for take-off and landing. Going to use it on flight in 3 days, but Keomo can't cross the Sahara alive!
gogol said:
You are right that it could charge much more when the Kaiser is in stand by, but that is not the way I want. I want to use the portable battery to "continue" to use Kaiser when it runs out of power.
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Oh I see. For that mode of operation it's probably psychological, but I think it works best to start with the device fully charged, then let it run off the external battery until that is dead. Doesn't seem like the ultimate runtime should be different, but I think I'm more comfortable knowing there's only X hrs left in my flight and I now have a dead external battery and a full internal battery.
I hadn't read your desired usage model first, but I did a test similar to yours this morning. I ran the Kaiser down to 47% and then connected it to my APC battery and put the Kaiser back in standby. (The APC was fully charged a few weeks ago, but unused since then - so figure 95-100% charged.)
09:23 47% 4 lights
10:23 73% 3 lights
11:23 83% 3 lights
12:22 100% 2 lights
The unit obviously finished charging sometime between 11:23 and 12:22 because the APC had auto-shutoff already. I'm confused by the 11:23 datapoint as I'd think the Kaiser wouldn't go to low-current charge mode that early in the battey's life, but maybe it does at 80% vs the typical 90%?
My guess is the APC had just dropped below the 3 lights threshold, but I wasn't around to see it. (You have to push the button on the APC to turn on the power display.) Per APC the light to capacity mapping is:
4: 85-100%
3: 55-85%
2: 25-55%
1: <25%
You could pretty safely get 2 of these ~50% up to 100% recharges then - and probably more in flight mode, since I was running DirectPush on a 3G network the whole time (though no e-mails came in during the test).
Richard
gogol said:
PS: You may use your mobile phone in a flight? I remembered once I said to the flight attendant that I set to "flight mode", but she still asked me to turn it off
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Yes, ditto to what victoradjei said - I turn it off during takeoff and landing but on during normal flight. I've never had a problem with the flight attendents, but that's one more thing I like about PhoneAlarm - having the big airplane icon right on screen in case of questions
In fact the crew on my Germany to USA flight were quite entranced by the sight of my Tilt playing video, running off my APC battery and into my noise cancelling headphones They were only sad that the Tilt wasn't a "freebie" phone from AT&T - or I probably could have sold 3 lines of service right then and there .
Richard
Hi Richard,
Your test result is pretty amazing, definetely APC is way much better than Keomo. Probably the best in this area, in terms of size and power. For sure there are other portable battery which are more powerful but very big in size + ugly.
You could charged your Kaiser from 47% to 100% and still have 2 lights on in the APC (down from 4 lights).
I ordered APC last night, hopefully I got it asap because my long trip will be next week.
And I forgot that I still dont have bluetooth speaker phone ! Silly me ... How can I watch movie silently while charging the Kaiser without BT speaker phone
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I hadn't read your desired usage model first, but I did a test similar to yours this morning. I ran the Kaiser down to 47% and then connected it to my APC battery and put the Kaiser back in standby. (The APC was fully charged a few weeks ago, but unused since then - so figure 95-100% charged.)
09:23 47% 4 lights
10:23 73% 3 lights
11:23 83% 3 lights
12:22 100% 2 lights
The unit obviously finished charging sometime between 11:23 and 12:22 because the APC had auto-shutoff already. I'm confused by the 11:23 datapoint as I'd think the Kaiser wouldn't go to low-current charge mode that early in the battey's life, but maybe it does at 80% vs the typical 90%?
My guess is the APC had just dropped below the 3 lights threshold, but I wasn't around to see it. (You have to push the button on the APC to turn on the power display.) Per APC the light to capacity mapping is:
4: 85-100%
3: 55-85%
2: 25-55%
1: <25%
You could pretty safely get 2 of these ~50% up to 100% recharges then - and probably more in flight mode, since I was running DirectPush on a 3G network the whole time (though no e-mails came in during the test).
Richard
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gogol said:
And I forgot that I still dont have bluetooth speaker phone ! Silly me ... How can I watch movie silently while charging the Kaiser without BT speaker phone
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I should have mentioned that I use one of these:
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
to achieve that. I've seen a number of similar products - and actually Semsons seems to be selling a different one than I bought from them, mine has the miniUSB connector coming out the back vs out the side like that. You should be able to find any number of headphone + miniUSB adapters for HTC phones that will allow charging plus headphones.
(You're not supposed to use BT or any other RF wireless on the plane of course.)
Richard
Like many of you guys, I have custom built my own PC. Yeah, it's a little outdated with a Q6600 but it will do for a good year or two more. Good thing I bought a Quad Core. But anyways, getting back to topic, you guys should realize that the Power Output of the front two USB ports are not the same as the USB ports that are in the back. This is a fact as far as my system is concerned. I know because I use a Lacie External drive which will only power on with the rear USB ports.
If you charge the SGS with the included wall charger, it will charge up in about 4 hours. When I leave it on my front USB port, I would wake up in the morning only to find it 60-70 percent full.
PS - I am amazed by the battery of this thing. Here is the break down. I fully charged by 1am. Took it off... then started using it quite a bit till around 3am ish. When I went to bed, the charge was at 72 percent. I work up 6 hours later and guess what, it was at 69 percent. Pretty neat.
The USB 2.0 only requires that a motherboard provides 150mA to a single port (& 500mA to 5 ports). Where as a chargers don't conform to this standard and provides a much higher charge, which charges your battery much quicker.
Only use USB if you have nothing esle.
The wall charger that came with the SGS is a 700mA. I just ordered a 1000mA wall and car charger.
The more I use this phone the more I am amazed by it. The Battery life on this thing is really great. It's already been close to 12 hours (11:30) and the battery is now finally at 49%
I've used this phone quite a bit and the battery held up really well. I used Let's Golf, Navigation, Armored Strike, Calls, Texts, Gmail... Good stuff.
So your telling me if i get a charger with more mA it will charge faster? Where can i get a bigger mA charger.
I don't know, but my battery charges fast as hell. It goes up about 5% in 20 minutes.
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So your telling me if i get a charger with more mA it will charge faster? Where can i get a bigger mA charger.
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Yes.
Mono Price is great.
Car charger (1000mA)
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2
Wall charger
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
then pic a cord length
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307
Ebay has tons also, just search and look at the specs. You want to make sure it says 1A or 1000mA
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I don't know, but my battery charges fast as hell. It goes up about 5% in 20 minutes.
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5% in 20mins, that's 15% per Hr, or 6.5 hrs from empty to full. You are happy with about 6.5 hrs for a full charge?
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5% in 20mins, that's 15% per Hr, or 6.5 hrs from empty to full. You are happy with about 6.5 hrs for a full charge?
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LOL , kids today are inept when it comes to arithmetic but cmon...
Aight more like 10% every 20 minutes, lol. I didn't know this was a math class, sorry. It is the summer you know -_________________________________-.
will it hurt the battery life or shorten the amount of time you can use the battery if you use a higher mA? because if it wont then why didnt Samsung just include a 1000mA charger with it?
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will it hurt the battery life or shorten the amount of time you can use the battery if you use a higher mA? because if it wont then why didnt Samsung just include a 1000mA charger with it?
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It will do neither.
read this. Gives some basics on Li-ion batteries. link
Essentially these batts can and should be charged at 1C c=capacity. Our batts are 1500mA so we could and should charge at 1500mA.
Slower charging is fine but these batteries rely on circuitry recognizing a drop in voltage to turn the charge off, or down to a lower current as to not damage the battery. If you charge at a higher rate the drop in voltage is more obvious than with a lower voltage and harder to miss thus less chance of an overcharge and battery damage. Added bonus is the battery charges quicker
Over charging is the killer of batteries. Overcharge occurs more from circuitry missing a change in voltage and failing to terminate.
Hope this helps.
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will it hurt the battery life or shorten the amount of time you can use the battery if you use a higher mA? because if it wont then why didnt Samsung just include a 1000mA charger with it?
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If you were an engineer and could save the company one cent, how would you do it? That was about one cent worth of cooper in the charger times ten million devices.you just made your year end bonus.
A dedicated chip inside the phone regulates the battery charge.
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Yes.
Mono Price is great.
Car charger (1000mA)
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2
Wall charger
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
then pic a cord length
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307
Ebay has tons also, just search and look at the specs. You want to make sure it says 1A or 1000mA
5% in 20mins, that's 15% per Hr, or 6.5 hrs from empty to full. You are happy with about 6.5 hrs for a full charge?
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I just visited the links you put up and chatted with the live chat team and they have no cables currently for the vibrant ?
where did you find it on the site
thanks
HOw many mA is the charger the phone came with?
leechdweler said:
I just visited the links you put up and chatted with the live chat team and they have no cables currently for the vibrant ?
where did you find it on the site
thanks
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all you need is a USB - Micro USB cable.
mystycs said:
HOw many mA is the charger the phone came with?
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700 mA. See the info panel on the charger, it'll tell you.
So a charger with more mA will charge my phone faster i assume? I wont loose any battery capicaty right? It wil charge the same amount just faster i assume?
mystycs said:
So a charger with more mA will charge my phone faster i assume? I wont loose any battery capicaty right? It wil charge the same amount just faster i assume?
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Its obvious you didn't even bother reading 6 POSTS up. This thread isn't even a full 2 pages, stop being lazy.
So I bought my car charger (cigarette adapter + separate usb cable) from
"Mono Price".
Specs:
PID:3523 Car Charger (Cigarette Lighter) to USB Female Converter - Black
PID:5139 USB 2.0 A Male to Micro 5pin Male 28/28AWG Cable - 10ft
Very weird thing is happening, instead of charging my phone it drains it .
The battery icon moves back and forth as if it is charging but it drains my battery relativity fast.
5 mins using the car charger I lost 25% of battery life .
Does anyone know why this is happening ?
boodies said:
The more I use this phone the more I am amazed by it. The Battery life on this thing is really great. It's already been close to 12 hours (11:30) and the battery is now finally at 49%
I've used this phone quite a bit and the battery held up really well. I used Let's Golf, Navigation, Armored Strike, Calls, Texts, Gmail... Good stuff.
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How...? I am on my third Vibrant and i last 6-7 hours...
Extended battery....hell of a deal on amazon.
Well I had 3 standard batteries until I lost one,so I decided to get another,so I went on amazon and found a 2800 mah ext. Battery for $18.95 w/cover and free shipping....3 days later I get it and surprise surprise its a 3500 mah battery and it only cost me $18.95
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Can you post the link on here? Most likely, it's not a true 3500mAh, but the improvement is huge, so you don't notice it.
Link? D:
I bought the Momax 2800 mAH from ebay for $35 and it was well worth it. It's so nice not having to carry around a charger with you now plus it comes with a cool kick stand
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I bought the Momax 2800 mAH from ebay for $35 and it was well worth it. It's so nice not having to carry around a charger with you now plus it comes with a cool kick stand
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Yeah, I just ordered a 2800 mAh battery on Amazon.
Can't wait to get that thing, I actually want to use the phone with it dying on me.
Can't seem to pull the link from my phone.
Just go to amazon.com and search sgh-t959 battery.....it will be on first pg. its the one for $18.95 free shipping
http://www.amazon.com/2800mAh-EXTEN...1QZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1304556743&sr=8-1
for the lazy...
soo currently the Newtrent battery packs are on sale and i would like some opinions about the packs. :highfive:
Not needed for 95% of people who can find a power outlet of some kind once every 24 hours.
If you're going camping for a week I guess it could work. Or if you game on your phone 12 hours a day.
Not needed for me.
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soo currently the Newtrent battery packs are on sale and i would like some opinions about the packs. :highfive:
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maniacaus said:
Not needed for 95% of people who can find a power outlet of some kind once every 24 hours.
If you're going camping for a week I guess it could work. Or if you game on your phone 12 hours a day.
Not needed for me.
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I have two battery packs. One slimline Anker battery that is great for emergencies. That one has a cord built in to charge. That one is like 3200mAh
I also have a new trent 10000mah one as well. That one travels with me. Has two usb ports to charge up my N4 and N7. Pretty fast too. However doesn't hold it's charge as well as the Anker IMO, but works.
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soo currently the Newtrent battery packs are on sale and i would like some opinions about the packs. :highfive:
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Link?
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If I'm going to rely on a battery pack, I'd rather get the biggest capacity of ~13000 mah.
I've had a New Trent 11,000mAh external battery pack for well over a year now and it's been pretty solid overall. My biggest complaint is that charging the battery pack itself is a little bit of a pain in the ass because it's really picky about the connection to the wall wart, you have to turn the piece that plugs into the battery pack until it connects just right to get a good charge. I assume this could just be a minor defect in my unit. I would say check out some of the other options out there as well, I picked up a 5,000mAh external battery for $20 on Amazon as a stocking stuffer for my wife this last year.
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Ok, quick edit 03/11
Below is post by post/day to day, my first real life experience with the PowerPie 20.000mAh 45w PD PPS powerbank.
I will summarise the whole thing with a few pics over the next few days but it's not a very long read if you want to get an idea of it, go ahead
For 58 Euro I think this is worth every cent.
Original first post below:
Hey guys/girls
I haven't been posting much for quite some time but still lurking in the background
I got a 20.000mAh powerbank today called PowerPie, it supports 45w pd pps charging so it is good for Note 10 plus onwards.
There's a link to it here but I'll update this thread with my personal experience as I get testing and trying it out.
Sorry if this has already been covered but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere here.
They do a 45w pd pps charger as well but I did not get that one as there was no 3 pin plug one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELECJET-Po...owerpie&qid=1584195250&sprefix=Elecjet&sr=8-1
https://elecjet.co.uk
j_hansen said:
Hey guys/girls
I haven't been posting much for quite some time but still lurking in the background
I got a 20.000mAh powerbank today called PowerPie, it supports 45w pd pps charging so it is good for Note 10 plus onwards.
There's a link to it here but I'll update this thread with my personal experience as I get testing and trying it out.
Sorry if this has already been covered but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere here.
They do a 45w pd pps charger as well but I did not get that one as there was no 3 pin plug one.
https://elecjet.com/collections/pow...-fast-charging-powerpie-x-20000mah-power-bank
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I got one of these. It works well and has amazing capacity. It's a bit bulky and I don't find myself actually carrying it with me often.
rcobourn said:
I got one of these. It works well and has amazing capacity. It's a bit bulky and I don't find myself actually carrying it with me often.
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Personally I wouldn't need to carry it with me every single day but it is a nice option to have.
What charger/s do you use for it?
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Personally I wouldn't need to carry it with me every single day but it is a nice option to have.
What charger/s do you use for it?
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I'm using the Samsung 45w charger for it. It definitely takes full advantage of that charger.
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I'm using the Samsung 45w charger for it. It definitely takes full advantage of that charger.
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Super, that's the one I have as well so that's good to know.
I didn't know about the 45W charger from Elecjet when I bought the Samsung one but I only paid 37 quid so it is all good.
I think it will sell well since Samsung doesn't seem to be dropping price themselves
1st test
Got to try this thing out for the first time this morning.
I let the Note 10 plus drain until it turned itself off in a final death cramp of a vibration *
Using the short usb-c to usb-c cable that came with the PowerPie I plugged it in.*
I had already charged the PowerPie fully using the official Samsung 45 Watt charger.
Here is what I got at first attempt on my 5 months old Note 10 plus 5G from 0%
7 min - 14%
9 min - 22%
12 min - 30 %
20 min - 47%
30 min - 66% (I've seen claims of 69% but I find 66% perfectly acceptable)
40 min 83%
47 min 90%
1 hour - 96%
1.05 - 100%
Considering that this is a powerbank, not a wall charger I find it a VERY GOOD result.*
The PowerPie is still showing 3 of the 4 LED's so it is so far so good with hoping to get 4 full charges plus a bit but I'll report back on that later.
Update:
I did the 2nd full charge of my Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G from 0% using the PowerPie and it was actually a minute or two quicker to both 90 and 100% today
but anything above 80% (42 minutes) is really irrelevant.
However, the positive taken from todays mini test is that during this 2nd charge cycle the led's on the PowerPie did drop from 3 to 2 but after charging the phone to a 100% there is still 2 led's lit up which should indicate that there is over 50% in *The Pie*
Tomorrow and the day after to go and I'll be able to confirm if a full 4 charges for the Note 10 plus 5G is possible but it is looking positive so far.
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Update:
I did the 2nd full charge of my Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G from 0% using the PowerPie and it was actually a minute or two quicker to both 90 and 100% today
but anything above 80% (42 minutes) is really irrelevant.
However, the positive taken from todays mini test is that during this 2nd charge cycle the led's on the PowerPie did drop from 3 to 2 but after charging the phone to a 100% there is still 2 led's lit up which should indicate that there is over 50% in *The Pie*
Tomorrow and the day after to go and I'll be able to confirm if a full 4 charges for the Note 10 plus 5G is possible but it is looking positive so far.
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I think it drops off a bit faster near the end, I'd be surprised to get 4 charges, but I haven't tried.
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I think it drops off a bit faster near the end, I'd be surprised to get 4 charges, but I haven't tried.
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I'm giving it a go anyway, it will be nice to know how far it stretches for when you need it.
After this first initial testing it will be the exemption rather than the rule running *The Pie* flat again
I want to also see how quick it charges to full using the Samsung 45w charger so obviously have to run it dry.
Another Update.
Day 3:
3rd full charge cycle just done and there is still 1 led left on, on *The Pie* indicating that there is a minimum of 25% 5000mAh left in it, so it will be interesting tomorrow to see if that translates into a 4th full charge cycle.
Interesting thing from todays mini test was that I instead of letting the Galaxy Note 10 Plus die on it's own, I instead switched it off at 1% (letting Galaxy phones die completely have caused issues for customers in the past)*
This seems to have resulted in slightly faster charging as it went to 77% in 30-31 minutes and a full 100% in 96 minutes, which is a fair bit better than starting from completely dead.
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Another Update.
Day 3:
3rd full charge cycle just done and there is still 1 led left on, on *The Pie* indicating that there is a minimum of 25% 5000mAh left in it, so it will be interesting tomorrow to see if that translates into a 4th full charge cycle.
Interesting thing from todays mini test was that I instead of letting the Galaxy Note 10 Plus die on it's own, I instead switched it off at 1% (letting Galaxy phones die completely have caused issues for customers in the past)*
This seems to have resulted in slightly faster charging as it went to 77% in 30-31 minutes and a full 100% in 96 minutes, which is a fair bit better than starting from completely dead.
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Hi Friends,
I have been thinking of getting the 45 watt samsung charger myself but then had this thought of going for a 65 watt Type C charger for a dell chromebook 3380.
Note 10+ is supposed to be able to take upto 47 watts if I'm not mistaken. please correct me if I'm wrong. The dell charger will work for the phone and the chromebook both and costs around $52-55 here. The Samsung Charger on the online Sammy store is also $53-55 and that in my currency equals ₹3500 - 4200 approx. The chromebook charger will actually cost less because the don't sell that well but the Samsung won't be coming down anytime soon atleast which makes me lean towards the dell.
You maybe aware that oppo is shipping the Reno 2 or 3 whichever it is they launched few days ago with a 65 watt fast charger.
After reading through this topic and your posts one thing I found surprising is that the charge times are actually more than my standard 25 watt charger that came in the box. Is it that the power bank is not putting out 45 watts for charging the phone but is capable of being charged with a 45 watt charger?
I think if we use a 45 watt charger for the phone itself the total time to go from 0% to 100% should not be more than 30-35 minutes. Is that correct, because you have those chargers I think you would be the right ones to throw some light on this.
Thanks for sharing and I am looking forward to your advice/experience in this regard.
Have a great day ahead, it is 4.20 am in India right now for others I would say sleep well if it's bedtime.
This is the longest time I have been on a phone without rooting it, which I will do soon. I wanted to check how true the statement that most apps that needed root can now work without it.
It hasn't turned out to be quite like that, titanium backup needs root and most importantly the best audio mod for android ViperFX needs root too. I have also been running 2 sim cards and the micro sd card at the same time, which samsung has blocked and thus can't be done without rooting and a custom os.
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Hi centaur31
Don't get just any 45w charger as you will end up with something that only charges you phone at 15w or maybe 25w if you are lucky.
Reason for this is that you need a pd pps charger, just pd won't work.
Oppo and other OEMs use different proprietary types of fast charging so their chargers won't work either.
From 0-100 % your 25W charger will be nearly as quick as the 45w only about 10 minutes difference.
The 45W is a good bit faster at the lower and mid so disregard between 80-100% it's not how it was designed.
No your 25W will not charge faster than either this 45w PowerPie or Samsung 45w between 80-100%
I have 25/45w from Samsung and also now this powerbank so I can guarantee that.
I can't help you with the Root questions as I haven't been doing that since Note 4, to me the 8/9/10 is fine without Root
Sorry I missed a thing there...
No 45w will not charge to 100% in 30-35min.
55min. is probably the best you can expect to see and 1.05h from the 25w
Final day of this mini test of the *The Pie* with the Note 10 Plus 5G
I let the phone go down to 1% again and plugged it in, there was still 1 of the 4 LEDs lit up on the power bank so I was a little optimistic about maybe getting a full 4th charge out of it but it wasn't to be....
However...It stopped at bang on 60% so all in I think it is a very respectable result considering that this is a 45W fast charging powerbank.
3 full 4300mAh charges plus one at 60% (2580mAh) if you can calculate it that directly.
Is it worth the 58 Euro I paid for it... I most certainly think so
I measured Powerpie bank and official 45w charger do not go pass 38w no matter what so in reality its 38w charger.. also there's Baseus PPS 45w car charger that works with Note 10+ and it maxes out at 38w as well (when the phone is completely dead, it's even lower if it has some juice still left).. so don't spend arm and a leg on that new car charger Samsung just announced, I payed for Baseus 12$ on ebay [emoji23]
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The Baseus I'm sure doesn't do 45W pps but I doubt that you are correct about both Samsungs charger and the PowerPie.
I would question your testing/measurement methods a bit, simply because you can't get ANY of the 3 different pieces of equipment to go over 38w
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The Baseus I'm sure doesn't do 45W pps but I doubt that you are correct about both Samsungs charger and the PowerPie.
I would question your testing/measurement methods a bit, simply because you can't get ANY of the 3 different pieces of equipment to go over 38w
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did you try testing official charger? if yes what was your results?
p. s I was able to get 38.5 on pie I believe, the other ones would wary 38.xxxw
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I think it drops off a bit faster near the end, I'd be surprised to get 4 charges, but I haven't tried.
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dboyrusky01 said:
did you try testing official charger? if yes what was your results?
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I didn't find it necessary to test the official charger as it delivered the charging times that Samsung claims it should.
Are you sure you are using the correct type cable for testing?
OK so you didn't actually measured the actual wattage at various stages of the battery lol until you do, how can you argue that I'm doing something incorrectly, see for yourself
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Well they're claiming UP TO 45w, not 45w all the time so in reality that means that if it only hit 45w once or twice then it does what they say
I'm happy enough with the charging results I have gotten anyway as they have lived up to expectations.
Next to try is the pps car charger