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I am just wondering what a lot of people use as their default Input Method on their PPCs.
I've used almost all of them except transcriber. Which is strange cause sometimes it makes the best sense. But the slight delay in recognition always kept me from making it my input method of choice.
So will everyone share what methods they have used? are using or prefer using? Does it differ based on what you are doing? I pick one and stick to it. Mostly its Letter Recognizer but lately I've been using the keyboard a lot.
I've noticed one issue with letter recognizer. I used it "full-time" on my previous pda and after a while because of excessive use of the graffiti input area, that area of the screen became a little insensitive to input so i had to press harder than usual for it to recognize my input.. Did this ever happen toyou or anyone?
So after that I'm a little scared to do the same thing to my XDA II therefore i am using the keyboard so that my screen taps are more evenly spread out. But i prefer the letter recognizer. Anyone else have similar experiences?
Personally I like keyb, transcriber, or my targus keyb.
Also,
when you click the selection box to choose which input method to use, go to options, select transcriber, and click options. You can change how long it takes to translate, and with what quality. I have mine set to high quality with almost no delay. I can write a word, and by the time my stylus is back to where I started, it's ready for the next. Although, I wish I could custom write a recognition DB instead of using MS's standard DB. Alot of letters I write a little differently or specificly (like 6 or b).
I've been using Calligrapher for a number of years now and find it superb.
I too am a long time user of CalliGrapher and am very happy with it. The recognition works very well and I do not have to alter my writing style at all. It's software keyboard is also very good and suggests many more words as you type (which you can then select instead of typing the entire word).
I was a little disappointed when PhadPad applet was removed and developed into a separate stand alone application but I found it so useful I elected to buy it anyway.
Ed
I am trying Decuma OnSpot. its a really nice and easy to use input method for the Palm and PPC. I havent tried caligrapher.
Has anyone else used both these products? Can you compare them? I am pretty happy with the Decuma (as of last night).
Tried TenGo and found it quite good for normal notes etc. However when you go to write an SMS, the other inputs - Keyboard, Letter Recogniser etc will auto find your contact after the first couple of letters in the address to: field.
I find that TenGo does not do this and for me that makes it not as useful.
Also, tried Fitaly, jury is still out decided if I like it or not. To be honest it's 'clumsy' the letters in different positions is sooooo consfusing initially. Mostly I use letter recogniser which I get on well with.
Cheers
I always use the Letter Recognizer, and the standard Keyboard when entering passwords etc. the Block Recognizer and Transcriber I have never got on with!!
settings
Perhaps you guys can help. I found the registry setting to set the input method permanently be letter recogniser. So when every you turn of the the device or reset it it alays comes up with lettere recogoniser. But I had a crash recently and now I cannnot remember what it was.
Any ideas?
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humayunl said:
that area of the screen became a little insensitive
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I usually use letter recognizer, I think it's a quite fast method. But it can't write "ő" and "ű" letters, only "o~" and "u^" :-(
Yes, yes. Sreen become insensitive after a half or one year useage.
I use a self-made input method, it's name Blimkeys. You can write letters on your XDA similar to write letters on a generic mobile phone. Support different languages. Check my signature!
Gábor
I use MessageEase from www.exideas.com. It took me a little while to get used to the layout but I find it extremely easy to use.
I prefer it to fitaly as I tried that but tended to use message ease a lot more.
The advantage with MessageEase is that you can change it into a larger size panel and u can even use your finger to write.
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I've been using Calligrapher for a number of years now and find it superb.
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Amen to that!
I've written a couple of comparative reviews regarding input methods for the XdaII/Pocket PC, they can be found here...
Comparative review of alternative input methods for the XDA II
Follow-up Review of Input Methods for the Xda II
Personally I found letter recognizer is quite. Maybe I just need to enter standard english so special characters won't bother me at all!
I use the kb mainly for almost anything, is the fastest using two my well groomed thumb-nails tapping technique.. Once a while I will use transcriber for composing long letter/notes. Given up on those letter/block recognizer since I ruined my cassiopeia through excessive use.
Unlocking
having problems with unlocking Xda II using both softwares
it comes up with the error
xda2unlock.exe v2.2
Welcome to your Himalaya network locking repair tool!
This tool is free of charge....... (Or so it was when it left the factory)
Start of repair process......
Preparing modem ......
performing magic ....
Read: 9, [] []ERROR [] []
Failed to do magic
Unfortunately it seems the repair was not successful. Maybe you can find help at http://forum.xda-developers.com which I went to down loaded but stil cut unlock.
When I discount the USB the screen on Xda stays at USB v1.01 so cant do anything with it any reason why this would happen
Please help
registry settings for default input method
Just so it is here because it took me ages to find it. :lol:
Set Letter Recognizer as default input method
Whenever you soft-reset, the input method reverts to the keyboard. Changing this registry entry will set it to your desired default each time.
KEY: \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\
NEW VALUES: DefaultIm =
Input type
Set to this String value
Keyboard {42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}
Letter Recognizer {42429690-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}
Block Recognizer {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}
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thanks for registry settings - a great help, Cheers
humayunl said:
I am trying Decuma OnSpot. its a really nice and easy to use input method for the Palm and PPC. I havent tried caligrapher.
Has anyone else used both these products? Can you compare them? I am pretty happy with the Decuma (as of last night).
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I've tried both of them and more besides - I still come back to Calligrapher, nothing else to touch it IMHO. See my comparitive reviews here and here.
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I usually use letter recognizer, I think it's a quite fast method. But it can't write "ő" and "ű" letters, only "o~" and "u^" :-(
Yes, yes. Sreen become insensitive after a half or one year useage.
I use a self-made input method, it's name Blimkeys. You can write letters on your XDA similar to write letters on a generic mobile phone. Support different languages. Check my signature!
Gábor
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Hi Gábor!
Blimkeys is great.
Had to adjust it for German characters and for big thumbs like mine (not only bigger fields but also fatter frames around the fields).
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
ID64 said:
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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even the hardware keyboard isn't that good compare to Universal, i still find it quicker compare to the soft keyboard.
Does anybody know anything technical about the KB? It should be possible to make our own keyboards for the Athena if we can just find out a little about it.
Imagine a small clip on adaptor that sticks to the bottom and has a PS2 socket on it
I've considered making a magnetic ribbon cable for "detached" use. Where you hold the keyboard in your hand and it's connected to the Athena via a magnetic cable that attached to the two components. Not sure if this would be worth anything to anyone out there but it should be VERY easy to make.
I also wondered if there was support for a docking station like use, with charger and keyboard plugged in, so you pop the athena into it and it charges as well as connects the KB.
You dont suppose the kb is actualy just USB do you?
I think some kind of slide down qwerty keyboard similar to the hermes / spv m3100 would be great. That way the keyboard could clip on the back of the Ameo and then the keyboard could slide out? if you get me?
The magnetic keyboards great if your at home, or in the office, but out and about its not practical.
I do agree that the software keyboards pretty good with large keys, thats what i use.
Yes, a slide out KB could easily be incorperated into a clip on protective case. In fact, you wouldnt need a new bk. Just mount the existing one into the slide part of the case, where the case would have a ribbon cable to make the connections.
There is a HUGE market for third party KB mods for the Athena, HTC really missed a trick here by not having some alternate kbs ready at launch.
For example, why doesnt the Dock have a KB? or a KB socket? Jeez, its not hard to put a ps2 socket in the dock, or a slot to put the normal Athena KB into it!
How about a large full size KB with Athena connector in it...
have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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Do you mean TenGo??? Dude you had me searching the wrong thing on Google because I didn't want to be lazy and ask for a link. LOL
Check spelling bro.
Here's a link for those that want to look into his suggestion
http://www.tengo.net/4100/tengokeybd_sipintro.html
eaglesteve said:
have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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Hi eaglesteve.
Do you have a link to this software or developer info etc please? can't seem to find anything when googling for it.
Cheers.
No worries found it. Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_pocketpc.html
ID64 said:
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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Tere Igor
Have you tried any of the soft keyboard options out there?
TenGo is not as intuitive as it appears, but is smart software.
OK just given the TenGo SIP a good run for it's money tonight. It is a very nice lookin application that has real potential.....BUT....the learning curve is a major drawback IMHO and not worth the time to learn. Why do I say that?
Firstly, I/we use QWERTY keyboards of one type or another every day and wether it's afull sized USB PC keyboard or a slide-out PPC keboard or SIP based, the QWERTY principle really has left an intuitive mark on me at least over the years and learning a new system does not make much sense to me if it is not going to be everywhere....just on my Ameo.
2ndly, I have no time to keep checking if the predictive text has recognised the word I intended for it to type. I mean if you don't check what you're typing regularly, then by the time you've reached the end of your document/txt, you'll struggle to make sense of what you have typed yourself!
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
Verdict? Perfect for those who write perfect english all the time and have the time to learn and train a new system,....BUT useless for those who already know what they want to type and just want it done quickly without spell checking every word as they type. It is very smart software indeed, but not natural or smart enough for the human mind. Gimme a larger SIP panel instead.
Not for me, but thanks for the heads-up.
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3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
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Same for me but for me it's the fact that I regularly communicate in a number of languages.
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OK just given the TenGo SIP a good run for it's money tonight. It is a very nice lookin application that has real potential.....BUT....the learning curve is a major drawback IMHO and not worth the time to learn. Why do I say that?
Firstly, I/we use QWERTY keyboards of one type or another every day and wether it's afull sized USB PC keyboard or a slide-out PPC keboard or SIP based, the QWERTY principle really has left an intuitive mark on me at least over the years and learning a new system does not make much sense to me if it is not going to be everywhere....just on my Ameo.
2ndly, I have no time to keep checking if the predictive text has recognised the word I intended for it to type. I mean if you don't check what you're typing regularly, then by the time you've reached the end of your document/txt, you'll struggle to make sense of what you have typed yourself!
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
Verdict? Perfect for those who write perfect english all the time and have the time to learn and train a new system,....BUT useless for those who already know what they want to type and just want it done quickly without spell checking every word as they type. It is very smart software indeed, but not natural or smart enough for the human mind. Gimme a larger SIP panel instead.
Not for me, but thanks for the heads-up.
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Ha ha, that was my first reaction too. So I almost passed it up initially without giving it a fair chance.
This are the facts:
1. You have not given up your qwert keyboard. It is still functioning 100% as one. If you choose to press the precise position of each individual 26 keys, what u type on is also one of the words that can b selected. Therefore you can still use slang such as lol, gtg,brb,etc. C how I can intentionally use shortened words on this post?
2. It is to b thought is as a very forgiving qwert keyboard, because of the built-in intelligence. You can type in the exact spelling of your words, not just limited to the words in the dictionary.becausr while it tries to predict what you want to type, what you actually type also appears as one of the choices. Now you see why slang is not a problem?
3. the system is actually very smart in selecting the default hint word out of all the suggested ones. The default choice is the underlined and first hint word. You don't need to do anything in order to select it other than the space bar ( which u hve 2 anyway w normal qwert keyboard) The only difference is u need not be precise in typing. U merely hve 2 touch the correct keygroup. U got it?
I thnk u r really going 2 like it once u go thru the 3 min tutorial. THERE IS ALMOST NO LEARNING CURVE!
JUST WATCH YOUR TYPING SPEED FLIES!
btw, there is a known problem with tengo installation. You may have problem selecting this as the default sip, or even selecting it.
i'll find the thread later and post it here.
eaglesteve said:
btw, there is a known problem with tengo installation. You may have problem selecting this as the default sip, or even selecting it.
i'll find the thread later and post it here.
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Installation problems aside, I agree that one can write a very nifty speeds and that the learning curve can appear to be low. My point was that it is not natural, certainly not to me.
I see your point about being able to use slang, but as it will not be the default word selected, you have to select it yourself each time you use it or teach the database a new word (slang) in order for it to recognise it in the future.
If it works well for you eaglesteve that's great and I wish I was as capable at adapting as you are, but for me and possibly for others, I'm looking for a SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly. I know you know what I mean.
However as your experience has taught you, maybe one evenings worth of testing is not enough for me to dismiss it so easily. But then I have kept it installed for further testing alongside my usual SIP methods.
Thanks again for the heads up though.
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No worries found it. Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_pocketpc.html
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go here for free tengo:
http://free.tengo.net/
Go here for commercial versions"
www.tengo.net
It supports vga
You may use it exactly the same way as your old qwert board is you go choose.
But then,you'll right away realise that there is a much easier way....quicker... More flexible..enjoy.
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I see your point about being able to use slang, but as it will not be the default word selected, you have to select it yourself each time you use it or teach the database a new word (slang) in order for it to recognise it in the future.
I'm looking for a SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly. I know you know what I mean.
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You don't have to teach the dictionary that the slang is a valid word. when you use it the first time, there will be an audio warning. But if you used it once, it automatically gets into the dictionary, and become just another normal word the next time you type it
Funny it is exactly because I want an SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly that I think tengo is the answer.
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Hi eaglesteve.
Do you have a link to this software or developer info etc please? can't seem to find anything when googling for it.
Cheers.
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http://www.tengo.net/
I've done some searching and can't find a keyboard input that only shows the up/down/right/left arrows. There are a few d-pad apps out there but they take up half the screen! All I need is to be able to switch my input from my regular keyboard to a directional one so I can turn the pages in my old scripture reader. A bar across the bottom, that didn't take up a ton of real estate, would be great.
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I've done some searching and can't find a keyboard input that only shows the up/down/right/left arrows. There are a few d-pad apps out there but they take up half the screen! All I need is to be able to switch my input from my regular keyboard to a directional one so I can turn the pages in my old scripture reader. A bar across the bottom, that didn't take up a ton of real estate, would be great.
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I fully agree. Is there any app out there?
Buy a Iolite..... !
You would think that this would be a priority for some gamers out there! There are plenty of games that need d-pad to play.
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Buy a Iolite..... !
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No disrespect intended my man, but this is the first unhelpful post I've seen you make. He chose to buy a Mega, I chose to buy a Mega, some of us are limited in our choice of phone.
I happen to think the mega is the best phone I've ever had in my twenty...something years of life.
So no, we don't wanna buy another phone for 1 feature, he wants an app, a touch input that offers this feature to the phone he chose.
Dear Uppy,
It was never my serious intention to have somebody buy a new phone which is just out on the market nor offend Mega users....sorry if people read it that way.....
And after searching again did not find the application our friend wants.....unfortunately
Oh i wish some think like that exist ... i'd want it on my whitestone too... i was just wondering can any one extraxt the dpad of the ezinput and make it work like a seprate SIP... Lol that would be cool
Handwriting
For the moment I'm switching to the "handwriting" input whenever I need the arrows. It has arrows and doesn't use up as much room on the screen. Still, it could be better if it were just the row of arrows at the bottom.
I just want to double check with someone that owns one of these, but I type in Japanese a lot and I'd like to know how easy it is to switch between Japanese and English input, if at all possible, on one of these.
Of course, if it's easy like in iOS, I'll definitely pick one up, but I need confirmation about the language support.
Thank you.
Easy. You would download an app (usually free, not sure about Japanese) to input that language. Switching is very easy to do - click tap the keyboard symbol on the bottom of the screen.
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Easy. You would download an app (usually free, not sure about Japanese) to input that language. Switching is very easy to do - click tap the keyboard symbol on the bottom of the screen.
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I see. Is there any way to figure out if the app exists beforehand? Is it native by chance?
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Indeed. I am quite interested in this as well. I would go as far as to say that it is a selling point.
Being able to switch on the fly between kana input and direct input mode inside Polaris Office would be a nice feature.
Can someone please make an in-depth review of this , i would really appreciate it!
The Eee Pad Transformer is not yet released in my country so sadly i can't test out the features but from some reviews I've seen , specifically one made for the Galaxy S II in which the Polaris Office app is presented there's this button which looks like a language input/method selector, so i'd guess that's the button you are referring to?
Ok so i'll answer this myself since i just received the transformer and played with it all day.
There are 2 "keyboard" inputs , one supplied by asus , which is pretty cool since it has that swype technology and the android one. None supporting Japanese.
There's only voice input method for it , or you could try a 3rd party keyboard app, called Simeji which works pretty well.
One can hope though , i'm pretty sure we'll see one in a future update from either asus or in the next installment of android, ice cream sandwich.
I can confirm Japanese works fine. I browse japanese pages and write japanese text no problem. There are many japanese input modules in the market. The best are Simeji and OpenWnn. If you want a tablet that works fine with Japanese language the transformer is great!
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Hi everyone
I own a Note 3, SCL22, Japanese version from KDDI AU (I believe model SM-N900J - on the main site it goes as SM-N900JZKEKDI). As you know, there is that s pen writing feature which allows you to hand write pretty much anywhere in the phone by hovering over the typing field and clicking a little button there (called direct pen input in the settings). It supports 4 languages, English (UK/US), Japanese and Korean, and I was wondering if there is a way to get more? Apparently, it can't be done from the settings, nor does it seem to be available in the Samsung app shop. Is it possible to add more languages to it, either rooted or not? Preferably not, because my model hasn't been rooted yet, and God knows when it will be.
Thanks in advance.
Snakiest said:
Hi everyone
I own a Note 3, SCL22, Japanese version from KDDI AU (I believe model SM-N900J - on the main site it goes as SM-N900JZKEKDI). As you know, there is that s pen writing feature which allows you to hand write pretty much anywhere in the phone by hovering over the typing field and clicking a little button there (called direct pen input in the settings). It supports 4 languages, English (UK/US), Japanese and Korean, and I was wondering if there is a way to get more? Apparently, it can't be done from the settings, nor does it seem to be available in the Samsung app shop. Is it possible to add more languages to it, either rooted or not? Preferably not, because my model hasn't been rooted yet, and God knows when it will be.
Thanks in advance.
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Add any language from Samsung Keyboard setting.
Setting>Controls>Language and Inputs> then tap the gear on the right of Samsung Keyboard, add your language
The pen input language will be able to be added later.
satawat.thongsawat said:
Add any language from Samsung Keyboard setting.
Setting>Controls>Language and Inputs> then tap the gear on the right of Samsung Keyboard, add your language
The pen input language will be able to be added later.
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Yeah, I have read that before. It seems on some devices this is how it is done. On mine, there is no option for that. I can choose one of the four pre-installed languages, but can't add any... It seems I have the answer to my question. Another inexplicable restriction of Japanese carriers.:crying: Well, maybe there is something else out there and it is too early to get desperate..?
Currently, there is no way to add more languages to the engine, which is MyScript Stylus-based application.
However, you can download the MyScript Stylus app from Google Play Store as an separated IME. With this app, you can write many languages. Please turn off Direct pen input before use.
I'm trying to modified other rom WritingBuddyService.apk (which is direct pen input apk) but bcoz I don't have root, I can't intall it as an normal apk.