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Hi,
What u guys recommend is it too late now ?...When it's Successor Kaiser will be out ?...Keem reply coming..
Thanks in advance Cheers mates
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depends on what you will be using it for really, if you want a stable bluetooth connection for a car kit and you dont want to be rebooting the phone daily then in my experience i would not buy one. If i new about these problems before i got mine then i definately would not of brought it.
it does have a whole host of features though so i suppose you cannot have everything.
If they sort these problems out which i keep hearing they will then the phone will be worth having.
I will now go and see what the Kaiser has to offer as might be time to switch already from this rubbish. (Annoyed as you can tell and only my opinion, due to the fact that car kit works fine on my wizard and no rebooting of phone. This one does not work correctly with car kit, people cannot hear me speak, and phone has to be rebooted 2-3 times a day, and yes the phone has been replaced and it is the same problems.)
zomig
there is nothing wrong with my car kit as my wizard (o2 xda mini s ) works 100% with it, this is an issue with the Bluetooth stack on this device and has been mentioned more times than i care to remember.
It quite simply does not work. It is also supposed to be fixed when they eventually release a new rom. But i wont hold my breath.
If you really need the keyboard, then, the Hermes might prove OK (albeit, if I were you, I'd REALLY wait!). If you don't need it, wait or get he Trinity - the latter is much better IMHO than the Hermes (built-in GPS and, hopefully, FM radio).
Strange My new Hermes works better with my Bluetooth Headset than my wizard did. Sound is clearer and louder. and on my wizard when I would answer a call the caller would get a earsplitting screech as I pres the answer button. This is not a prob with the TYTN
Jules
Thanks u all guys .....really appreciate it
I don't care abt Bt Problem will have a look on trinity does t-mobile rlease trinity ?
Hello everybody!
I been always having difficulties pairing HTC devices with my AUDI A6 (2005) hand-free using bluetooth (HTC Diamond, HD, and now HD2). The phones will pair but neither contacts or recent calls would appear in my car's display (MMI)
I used to solve the problem using a software extension for the bluetooth stack called JETWARE MOBILE, but HD2 uses WIDCOMM's bluetooth stack instead of Microsoft's one, and JETWARE software won't support it.
I've found a thread about pairing with a volvo hands-free where have been found a solution (changing WIDCOMM registry key "SupportedFeatures" and others)
Anyway it appears to be a volvo's specific solution so it doesn't work for my AUDI (I still can't get any contacts, recent calls, etc. transfered to my car using those)
Does anybody have an idea?
Thanks in advance
Sounds like Audi does not support the handsfree profile HD2 uses. What about using sap (sim access)?
The best way would be to ask your Audi Partner about a solution.
I bet they have an own SAP bluetooth device as i read that Audi uses Handsfree on default and SAP as an option for more money.
It is always a matter of the cars software and not of the HD or HD2.
I own the Mercedes CLC 2008 and i need to buy an extra utility (SAP bluetooth dongle SLR design) for more than 300 €.
Didnt do it till today but i got a new job and def. will buy it when i get the first money.
With SAP it will definately work - also confiremd by several forums i found via google.
BTW: The brother of my wife has a new Volvo V50 and he cant pair his Nokia phone with the cars system but my old HD as my new HD2 too can pair without any problem. I can shuffle through my contacts where he got the same issue as u - but with his nokia phone.
I'm not sure if you've updated the MMI software in your Audi. I had a older software version in my 05 A6 there are 2 disks that will get you to the latest version. I have flawless phone access now. It's like a ROM upgrade for the car.
You can read more about it at www.audiworld.com and check the C6 forum.
rsacipher said:
I'm not sure if you've updated the MMI software in your Audi. I had a older software version in my 05 A6 there are 2 disks that will get you to the latest version. I have flawless phone access now. It's like a ROM upgrade for the car.
You can read more about it at www.audiworld.com and check the C6 forum.
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I don't really think I've got any MMI updates. I don't even know what version I've got...
I'll ask my dealer to find out.
Thanks
pitaXDA said:
I don't really think I've got any MMI updates. I don't even know what version I've got...
I'll ask my dealer to find out.
Thanks
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I doubt your dealer will fix it for you unless you are still in warranty and you are having an issue with it.
My dealer didn't want to touch it because like one of these phones if you mess up the upgrade you can brick it.
If you want to take a picture of the SW version and post it or send it to me I can tell you what you have.
Are you in the US?
I forgot to mention if you fry the MMI it is about $2,000 to fix. I was able to get the lastest software installed in about 2 hours.
rsacipher said:
I doubt your dealer will fix it for you unless you are still in warranty and you are having an issue with it.
My dealer didn't want to touch it because like one of these phones if you mess up the upgrade you can brick it.
If you want to take a picture of the SW version and post it or send it to me I can tell you what you have.
Are you in the US?
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I'm from Spain, little far away from US...
When I took my car to its last service (55.000 miles) they told me they were supposed to apply a software update (I was in a hurry so I told them to came back later... 8 months ago...).
May be that update will also apply to the MMI?
Anyway I'll take the picture and show you the SW version.
Thanks
pitaXDA said:
I'm from Spain, little far away from US...
When I took my car to its last service (55.000 miles) they told me they were supposed to apply a software update (I was in a hurry so I told them to came back later... 8 months ago...).
May be that update will also apply to the MMI?
Anyway I'll take the picture and show you the SW version.
Thanks
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It's hard to say what they wanted to update, it could have been the ECU or MMI. I found that since I had an early model 05 my software was really out of date. Once I updated it the phonebook and connection worked so much better.
Audi usually supply the latest firmware as part of the navigation disk updates (they auto update when you first put them in).. this is the case for the older RNS-E's and probably the case for MMI too..
rsacipher said:
I doubt your dealer will fix it for you unless you are still in warranty and you are having an issue with it.
My dealer didn't want to touch it because like one of these phones if you mess up the upgrade you can brick it.
If you want to take a picture of the SW version and post it or send it to me I can tell you what you have.
Are you in the US?
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Hello again
Here I'm posting the pictures of my MMI. It's my first time uploading images so I hope it works.
Thanks again
khughes said:
Audi usually supply the latest firmware as part of the navigation disk updates (they auto update when you first put them in).. this is the case for the older RNS-E's and probably the case for MMI too..
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May be... but I don't have navigation in my MMI. I actually have the MMI Plus but the navigation module was too much for the value (Tomtom gives me the same except MMI integration for less than 1/10 of the price)
Thanks anyway
dameon12 said:
I own the Mercedes CLC 2008 and i need to buy an extra utility (SAP bluetooth dongle SLR design) for more than 300 €.
With SAP it will definately work - also confiremd by several forums i found via google.
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apologies to OP, this is slightly off topic...
Hi Dameon12,
I think this works only with the V3 SAP Mercedes module, and this works only with the newer MB audio units.
I have a 2006 Mercedes with Comand and the V2 SAP module, but no success as yet pairing with the HD2 - but I'm open to suggestions!
Thanks,
Eddie
pitaXDA said:
Hello again
Here I'm posting the pictures of my MMI. It's my first time uploading images so I hope it works.
Thanks again
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Hello rsacipher
Could you please tell me if those pictures were what you ask me to take?
If I get out the software version to search for I might give it a try...
Thanks
Hello all
I have HTC Desire and a VW with BT Premium Kit, which only supports rSAP.
I have been looking into forums for an application which can enable rSAP on Desire, but I have been unsuccessful in my searches.
Some say that this is working for Android 2.1 Update 1, but I was not able to pair the devices.
Does anyone have this working?
Is there any Android Apps Developer who is willing to try to do this?
Thanks
my desire works well with my VW BT
i can dial and have my contacts available
the only thing which is not working is sms
rSAP
Can you please tell me how you did it?
My VW detects my phone, but says always "phone not compatible" or something like that.
Did you get it working on the first try? Do you have RNS510?
What SW do you have on your desire?
rSAP
Ragardin rSAP for VW i can say the following:
It's not working
If u have new VW (i have Golf mk6) with new RCD/NCD 510 multimedia and u have bluetooth kit for mobile phone, Desire will not be able to be found by your/mine media system, coz android haven't this stupid rSAP protocol. I can't explain how mad I'm now about this. It has more than 10 protocols for BT, but not rSAP.
So i bought Desire today and turned it back in store 30 mins ago. This is extremely good device, but without rSAP its useless for me...
I took HD2 and i will turn it back as well btw
I hope that some1 could tell us, is the rSAP support hardware option or software. If its hw option - than it sucks...
Dear friends, please, follow the link:
http :// code .google .com
and add stars to "Issue 4402: rSAP / Sim access bluetooth profile"
Hope this action could help us.
android rSAP
yes, I already starred this issue with rSAP. It is soooo frustrating - having 2 perfect devices, desire and passat with handsfree, and they cannot speak together - really frustrating. Old parrot handsfree had no problems!
If anyone has a solution, please let us know.
are there any news on rSAP development ?
I have hope that some smart developer will figure it out, how to add it to andorid....
Best regards!
maybe this could be helpful for a developer:
http://allforfreelancers.com/getafr...Android-iPhone-J2ME-Nokia-Symbian-726296.html
Regards!
I am wondering why there is absolutely no response on rSAP development discussions?
Is it because no developer has a clue what needs to be done and if there is (even a tiny) chance to develop rsap support for Desire or is it just the lack of any interest from the side of the developers?
I am sure a lot of people would actually buy the app or upgrade that would enable this feature, so interest should be there...
I guess the main reason why nobody has written an app so far is that the necessary funtions for accessing the SIM card are missing in the Android RIL interface. So it will never be possible to write a universal rSAP app for all Android mobiles. Apart from that basic problem there are some other smaller obstacles to master. And of course you will need root access, at least to install the necessary files.
I did some reengineering on the HTC RIL lib and found a way to access the SIM card on the HTC Magic and probably on the Desire. I guess the other HTC mobiles should work too.
Next I've written a test app running on my HTC Magic that implements the rSAP protocol. It was working with an old 2G SIM card before the card expired. I tested it with a Nokia 616 and with a VW Passat. But now I'm having problems with my 3G (UICC) card. Currently I'm still not sure if I get it running but I'll keep on trying.
thank you for your answer and efforts. at least there is some hope that this will work until I sell my car...
did you use some of the Galaxy S libs?
please, keep us informed on the development!
Best regards!
No, I don't have a Galaxy.
Of course I'll let you know when I have it running. But it will take a few weeks at least.
HI rsap.
That sounds like great job!
If it worked on Magic, it would probably work on Dream/G1 as well, am I right?
If it does, would you help me out with it?
Thanks a lot in advance
it would be amazing, if you'd be able to achieve this =)
and i'm sure, people will pay or at least donate for this app! (me included)
thanks in advance!
Another user posted in this forum "Samsing just made the sourcecode (search: Samsung releases Captivate source code) so there seems to also be a ZIP file for the GT-I9000 (European Samsung Galaxy S)."..maybe this could help you further.
Regards!
I will donate!!!
i want RSAP also , any body have the solution yet? i know it works on Samsung Galaxy S but know i have htc Desire HD it only works us hand free profile!!!!
Regards!!
RSAP where are you? Any news?
You should check again the compatibility, with audi a4 mine hasn't been working but with the 2.29.405.2 it's like charm. Sends pb, received dialled calls and everything. Excellent.
It's still not working but I don't give up hope...
I know enough about the RSAP protocol, the HTC RIL lib and SIM cards. If there is someone out there who knows something about the HTC radio software, especially the AT commands it would be helpful. I could not find anything useful in the net.
Works again on my Magic! I need some time to clean up the software port it to Desire (and other HTCs) and make it installable.
I'll let you know!
WOW! Well done!
Would it be portable to G1 (Dream)?
Please, let me know.
Thanks a lot
I have a HD2 Running stock build ROM but with CHT 2.0 and it's an awesome phone, love the fact that it is so customisable and despite WinMo 6.5 being discontinued it lives on with huge amounts of effort being poured into developing and porting....I am seriously considering flashing a NAND android ROM onto it instead of WinMo but have one BIG Problem!
Whilst trawling the threads ( and reading a million ' thanx' posts) well deserved I might add, I cannot find any comment or info anywhere as to whether flashing the HD2 to Android retains or removes the phones SAP/RSAP connectivity I have a 2010 VAG car and it uses the RSAP protocol and to be honest it is THE best handsfree in car solution I have ever used, ( and I have used most of them) very clear with great signal retention, as I use it for business I am loathe to lose it so you can all probably see my dilemma.....great OS or great handsfree.........anyone know the answer....it would be great if it does as R/SAP support is lacking on Android.......bar a website stating RSAP for android .....coming soon....HELP!!!!
daver38 said:
I have a HD2 Running stock build ROM but with CHT 2.0 and it's an awesome phone, love the fact that it is so customisable and despite WinMo 6.5 being discontinued it lives on with huge amounts of effort being poured into developing and porting....I am seriously considering flashing a NAND android ROM onto it instead of WinMo but have one BIG Problem!
Whilst trawling the threads ( and reading a million ' thanx' posts) well deserved I might add, I cannot find any comment or info anywhere as to whether flashing the HD2 to Android retains or removes the phones SAP/RSAP connectivity I have a 2010 VAG car and it uses the RSAP protocol and to be honest it is THE best handsfree in car solution I have ever used, ( and I have used most of them) very clear with great signal retention, as I use it for business I am loathe to lose it so you can all probably see my dilemma.....great OS or great handsfree.........anyone know the answer....it would be great if it does as R/SAP support is lacking on Android.......bar a website stating RSAP for android .....coming soon....HELP!!!!
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Im not too sure about the specific SAP/RSAP, but using my bt widget to my trucks bt stereo works great.
Thanks for your reply but BT is different than RSAP, its a specific VAG Group, BMW and Mercedes type of Hands free, works brilliantly but the compatibility of the latest phones is none existant other than Nokia.....that's not a direction I want to be going in as from my experience Nokias are shocking quality in the software department.
Can no one offer any advice on this, the rSAP problem with decent compatible phones is a HUGE problem across europe, covering VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, BMW And Mercedes, there are loads of people looking for an answer to this?
Thanks in advance......
Cant think of a way of saying this without sounding like im being funny and i really dont mean to be but why dont you just flash a rom and try it and if it dont work flash back to winmo you can back up before you flash. Or try an SD version. (Dont mean to sound sarcastic)
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android-rsap[dot]com
I think someone is on it.
I hope..........
[Q] rSAP & Android @HD2
Hello @ all
Excuse my bad English.
can someone help me install these files/app in to a SD Build?
w w w . android-rsap.com/installation.html
--> Step 1: Installing System Files
Thanks in advance
-----> the solution!!!
- rename original /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so to /system/lib/libhtc_ril.orig.so
- extract libhtc_ril.new.so from rsap-install.zip and copy to /system/libhtc_ril.so
alltho this thread is already a little old I still wanted to state, that the rSAP server developed by android-rsap.com is now fully working on the HD2 with only a few devices acting weird.I had it running on a MIUI build.
my problem tho is, that after flashing back to WinMo (stock or Duttys, doesn't make a difference) the rSAP function doesn't work with the VAG Premium any longer-it never connects, or if it does with a trick, it fails soon after.sometimes it freezes the hd2, sometimes it even freezes the premium...
re-flashing, task 29, mtty all didn't help. be warned people.it can seriously mess with your phone.
Did you try to flash back to stock? I have the same problem
My RCD510 didn't find my HD2. All other bluetooth devices around my were found
As I said, I tried everything but the car never connected properly to the HD2 again ever since using this rsap app. It must have left some weird connection settings in the car unit. I wanted to do a reset on that unit to test but I never managed. Now the car is sold and this thread obsolete until someone else comes up with this. Subject finished.
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Hello all,
happy to discover you.
I have recently acquired a HTC_HD2 from a friend who hadn't changed anything at it's formal operating system win.mobile 6.5 I think it is called.
after a lot of studing and effort, I did make it dual bootable, between wp7.8, (from this link I took the rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078&page=327) and android jellybean_nexusHD2 installed to the microsd. (
android seems to working fine .
unfortunately, in wp7.8 when I plug in a 3.5mm headset, although I can hear the call , the other line cannot hear me at all. checked with two different headsets, no luck at all.
to make matters worse, my bluetooth headset won't get connected to the phone at all.
I think yesterday I managed for a moment to connect it, but I am not so sure, why can't I do it again today?
in long calls, I don't want to keep my phone stuck to my head. or while driving, I want to use only bluetooth (if no mobile at all).
anyway, has any other experienced same problems? any solution probable? in case of an updated rom od wp7.8 any case to get notification in my HTC_HD2 automatically?
this rom is the only one I found with functional nokia_drive (very important to me) and other useful apps preinstalled.
also, I doubt if I could manage again to make my phone dual-booting with andorid succesfully, since I tried like a 100 times to do succesfully the necessary partitions after installing wp7.8 each time I failed.
thanks in advance for any opinions/answers.
the thing is, I prefer wp7.8 over android but I am imagining I will stay with andorid jellybean since it is 100% functional until now.
Ps. sorry if I put my thread to a wrong region, beginner, be sympathetic.