Hi All,
I have been trying to find this out on the reviews I've seen online, but haven't found anyone that has concentrated on this to a decent level.
I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me how good the handwriting to text recognition is? I know this will probably be subject to how neat someones handwriting is, but if anyone knows of any videos I can check out, or can tell me from personal experience, that would be great!
Also, would this be compatible with software such as Evernote etc? Someone I know plans on getting a Note for meetings, and to take them down using the S-Pen, and a big seller would be whether it can convert her notes to text. Thanks in advance for any help offered!
-J
And what about comparing with Calligrapher for WM?
Thank you
I've been trying and here's the results: It took five goes to finish the page because it's too easy to touch buttons with your hand. The best way is to not touch the screen but this makes it difficult to write neatly. It took about ten seconds to convert the page to text. Unfortunately, the result was very poor. Over 50% of it was illegible. I'll try some more later.
It takes some practice to write neatly on the smooth slick surface, but when I actually make my letters in the right way I find the handwriting to type conversion to work quite well. Only been using the handwriting for messaging pad to try this. Havent tried converting a memo to type.
The recognition is good. The hard part is writing neatly on a slick surface. That makes it almost impossible for me. If I slow down to write neatly the benefit of it is lost since I can type faster on the keyboard with Swiftkey. Arguably I'm faster typing with Swiftkey than fast hand writing really. I didn't get the note for the handwriting recognition so it's fine with me but others may be disappointed.
I myself have not found the handwriting to text very good to be honest. I think I have generally quite neat, clear writing. I try not to write in cursive script but I think it is only 100% correct in less than a quarter of entries.
I still think the S-Pen is very good for jotting down a memo and have made use of this function at least 5 or 6 times already since I got the phone on Friday.
I am a lefty and am getting used to the handwriting system. The more l use it the easier it is becoming..
i turned on complete recognition not stroke recognition and have not much trouble writing all this now in complete sentences. l think it works very well
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I prefer writepad
Worked much better on my old Palm Pilot
madmcphil said:
i turned on complete recognition not stroke recognition and have not much trouble writing all this now in complete sentences. l think it works very well
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Where is this set? I can't find it.
- Frank
Samsung keypad : settings : handwriting settings : recognition type
Try to write "brown" with handwriting recognition! It could be good but currently it's pretty much a joke from my perspective. The dictionary is full of non-words and having to tap the space bar between each word is ridiculous.
RashaMatt said:
Try to write "brown" with handwriting recognition! It could be good but currently it's pretty much a joke from my perspective. The dictionary is full of non-words and having to tap the space bar between each word is ridiculous.
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You don't have to.
If you write in cursive, leaving a small space between words inserts a space. If you write in print, a slightly larger space works just as well.
I have a few issues like my 'v's being read as 'r's and punctuation being a bit of a problem, but that's about it.
P.S. I have pretty crappy handwriting and the fact that it can still be understood correctly really surprised me.
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You don't have to.
If you write in cursive, leaving a small space between words inserts a space. If you write in print, a slightly larger space works just as well.
I have a few issues like my 'v's being read as 'r's and punctuation being a bit of a problem, but that's about it.
P.S. I have pretty crappy handwriting and the fact that it can still be understood correctly really surprised me.
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Do you think, the program will learn in the same way, as predictive input learns? Because then it will be possible, that in time it will recognise your own handwriting.
Given how insanely bad my handwriting is I've found the recognition remarkably good - I only really need to make a minimal effort to be a bit neater and it recognises probably 90% or so of what I write.
I've been using it loads, for writing lists etc. I'm not sure it would be good enough for someone who really relied on it for work, but it serves my purposes fine.
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Do you think, the program will learn in the same way, as predictive input learns? Because then it will be possible, that in time it will recognise your own handwriting.
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I don't think it does that, since a) I've seen no evidence for it in my unit and b) I'm assuming that would be a big selling point... and none of the promotional material mentions any such thing..
Although, I would love it if that was implemented somehow...
I agree with Geek78, I find Writepad to be excellent, especially with the stylus, and I believe it 'learns' your writing.
Search 'android writepad' on youtube...
Dan
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Worked much better on my old Palm Pilot
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For old Palm users there is Graffiti Pro on the Market. Works like a charm. Maybe not as fast as other input methods but thanks to Graffiti's simplified characters you don't need to writte really neat and it feels natural once you learn it.
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Hi, I recently read about a review of x7510 can allow some sort of touch typing on its attached keyboard.
Just wonder if anybody has actual experience on this. I am using a Shift... Excellent machine, great keyboard but the 2 hrs battery is not good enough for me and I don't really need Vista on my mobile tool. So looking at x7510 again... but would like to understand the negative productivity impact of the keyboard.
I am Asian having not so big fingers and was previously using Sigmarion III as my primary tool in office. Even comment on current x7501/x7500 would be useful to me.
Thanks much for sharing.
I'm have my X7501 for about 45 days and using mostly of the time the softkeyboard which is not that bad due to the increased size of it on the 5" screen. The detachable keyboard I leave in my backpack for when I have a table where I can place X7501 with the hardkeyboard. At hand I rather use the softkeyboard which can be improved using alternative software as you can check on this Forum. For serious work with long texting just get a slim USB keyboard which is very cheap and wide available and connect through the 4x1 cable. I'm also don't need Vista or XP during the day and rather work with a ligth set up like the Advantage. I had several other PDA's during the last years but the small screens were very frustating for real work. Hope you get one and enjoy!
Thanks RCF2 for your comment. Can you please share a little bit more on the attached keyboard on a desktop?
Is it touch typing possible for small fingers? Comparing to a normal keyboard, is it 50% or worst?
typing too fast... I meant when using the hard keyboard on a proper desk...
One more question, on soft keyboard, is it mainly thumb typing? Any possibility to use more than just thumb? It might sound silly... After doing texting/emails on various tiny WM devices for a few years, now having some problems with my palm (thumb typing motion) and doing accuputures... Looking for options to do thumb typing less...
Stanip, I would say that 50% is close to the correct figure on the hard keyboard on a table. Keep in mind that this depends on how fast you are on a regular keyboard. If you are really good with the 10 fingers you will takes much longer than twice on the X7501 for sure. One of the critics I heard about was they lack the tactil feel but the sound made by the typing is enough for me. The softkeyboard work well with the tumbs, never tried differently but if you find a proper way place the PDA/screen I'm sure that will work also. Again, if you need to produce long texts just get a cheap standard keyboard and connect.
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One more question, on soft keyboard, is it mainly thumb typing? Any possibility to use more than just thumb? It might sound silly... After doing texting/emails on various tiny WM devices for a few years, now having some problems with my palm (thumb typing motion) and doing accuputures... Looking for options to do thumb typing less...
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Well, not using the 7500 for typing much, but I guess I could learn typing with 6 fingers or so.
When typing a short message I dont even bother getting out the keyboard, I just use the softkeys, which work perfect considering the 5 inch screen.
You could attach an external keyboard if you use typing a lot, or some keyboard software to get a large touchpad keyboard on WM
Thanks for sharing Kowen and rcf2. This is very helpful.
Will wait for x7510 and give it a try.
You mentioned that you're an Asian. Do you need to input in an Asian lanaguage such as Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, etc? If the answer is yet, then you have to rule out using the hardware keyboard, I think. Software keyboard is so much more versatile. It can take so many different layouts and forms. For English software keyboad, I find Tengo to be the best. It is small enough to cover only a little space on the screen, but have the largest hitting key areas (sound like contradiction I know) to allow finger typing. It is possible to go to 60 words per minutes with this keyboard. I'm able to take Sermon notes as the guy speaks, not word for word, but the main points with Tengo.
I never miss my hardware keybaord.
The idea of carrying another separate bluetooth keyboard just for typing is hard for me to understand, I must say.
Eaglesteve, do you use your thumb on Tengo to get to 60 wpm? That's fast. I am trying to use less of my thumb due to some problems developed over the years... Are there other ways to type on tengo?
I input mainly on English but am too lazy to carry a BT keyboard around in the office too.
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Eaglesteve, do you use your thumb on Tengo to get to 60 wpm? That's fast. I am trying to use less of my thumb due to some problems developed over the years... Are there other ways to type on tengo?
I input mainly on English but am too lazy to carry a BT keyboard around in the office too.
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I personally can't achieve that speed. To see others who can, visit the demo at Tengo website.
Wow, it's been almost 5 years since I used a windows mobile device. Still, can't help it now that HTC Touch Pro and SE Xperia X1 bombards the scene like bat out of hell and I decided to pick either one.
Anyway, since I read stellar reviews between both devices, it just boils down to one thing...
I'm an avid ebook reader, as such I'm looking for a capable device that allows for convenient ebook reading experience. I search prior postings and basically they just talk about which application is best to use, which is the third thing on my list.
The first point is how the device is used to read those ebooks. I used to own Sony Ericsson M600, and reading ebooks/pdf files is a heaven with the jog dial navigation. Now the X1 has the optical sensor, and every video review I saw showcases navigation with sensitivity... Now my big question is, can the optical pad navigation be used to scroll an ebook/pdf reader? What I mean is to literally move the whole page with the pad when I slide my finger on the pad, not just using a pointer to drag a scroll bar. If can, I don't want to touch the screen at all because I have an extra greasy fingers and I prefer not taking out the stylus.
The second point is how the screen handles text? With such high pixel density ratio, would it just kill the font sizes? Sure I can just zoom in but would it have any adverse effects?
Pardon these silly questions, it's just that I have been to long out of touch with windows mobile scenes. The X1 is a heart stealer, but a friend offered me his Touch Pro used for US$600, although not quite a steal, it's still US$200 less than the money I already prepared for the X1... So it's basically boils down to one
I too am an extremely avid book reader, and like you the ability to read books on my phone was a huge thing...
Point no.1 - with ms reader you can use the optical to navigate and it works well... I also use ubook and for that one you can go back a page quite well but to go forward it seems to enable the auto scroll (that could be a setting I need to change somewhere, still working it all out), I also use ae button to change the volume up and down to page up and down on one click which works a treat....
point 2... imho the text handling is freaking awesome... not only is it very very clear with small size text in English, its the same in Chinese (which was a huge deal maker for me).... making text larger just makes it bigger and I havent noticed any adverse effects yet...
your other point re readers, I use ms reader alot for my huge collection of .lit books but have found that ubook reader (by gowerpoint http://gowerpoint.com/uBook_down.html ) is pretty good for some file types, you can also get mobi pocket reader http://www.mobipocket.com/en/HomePage/default.asp?Language=EN and tiny ebook reader http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=10380 which are ok... it seems that it is really really difficult to get a book reader that can read all the different file types e books come in.. shame really...
to sum up, reading on the x1 is awesome...
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to sum up, reading on the x1 is awesome...
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That my friend... Is a deal maker.
But what about text handling in term of zooming in and out? Is it possible to use just the hardware button to do it? The side volume buttons seems awfully fit to have that description... If possible I'm not touching the screen at any time.
TBH I am not sure if the hardware buttons can do the zooming, I guess they probably can (esp if you use ae button or similar to map them) but I havent got that far in the tweaking of my baby yet...! And to tell the truth I have found that I have not had to zoom yet as the text is very readable...
The X1 is rather heavy and the screen is quite small.
Well I've read 6 novels so far on my X1 using mobipocket.
The optical joystick is too sensitive (I use the d-pad)
Other than that this thing is excellent for reading on (This comes from someone who was primarily reading on a sony 505 eInk reader)
I do like to set the background to blue and the text to white though, find it easier and less straining than black on white
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The X1 is rather heavy and the screen is quite small.
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It's better than the other device that the OP is considering, however.
If I had to pick between the Touch Pro and the X1, it'd be the X1.
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I dont find this at all... in fact its smaller and lighter than my Kaiser/TyTN II/MDA Vario III but the screen is easier to read and much clearer...
i think my x1a is rather heavy (in a good way for me) and the screen is small tho the resolution is sharp.
if you like to read on a small screen then i say go for it. as i mentioned, the screen is small but sharp, only thing i find is that its hard to read when my eyes are tired.
Agree .. the screen is small, but otherwise good. Touch HD would be better. But then you can have problems with turning pages.
I use Halli reader.
As for PDF .. is there anything better then Adobe ?
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And to tell the truth I have found that I have not had to zoom yet as the text is very readable...
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This is what I want to hear especially from a user, and I think it's all set I guess, X1 it is... Now to search for that uncrackable batch...
Oh, and about how small the X1 screen is, the Touch Pro would be lesser joy to have then.
NOTE: By "No Keyboard" I just mean that this method does not involve a KB of any kind.... I do NOT mean to imply that this is a total replacement for the physical keyboard...... rather I think of it as a one handed on-screen text entry method to be used when convenient
I think someone should port Dasher to Android.
Dasher is free software, that takes an extremely unique approach to achieve 'information efficient' text entry. It allows lots of different input methods, and is very adaptable, and customizable.
Here is a description from the Dasher Website.
Dasher is an information-efficient text-entry interface, driven by natural continuous pointing gestures. Dasher is a competitive text-entry system wherever a full-size keyboard cannot be used - for example,
[*] when operating a computer one-handed, by joystick, touchscreen, trackball, or mouse;
[*] when operating a computer with zero hands (i.e., by head-mouse or by eyetracker);
[*] on a palmtop computer;
[*] on a wearable computer.
...using a mouse/trackball/touch pad, experienced users can write at 39 words per minute.
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Quick video, just to show it work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yIquOKQ0
An hour long video, that goes into detail, as to how it works, all the different ways it can be used.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5078334075080674416&ei=caEsSZiUGZOwqwL306zQCA&q=dasher
Dasher on an IPAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jxhJjkwleo
The Dasher Website
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
Also -- I have seen posts around the net asking for chinese input methods. And thought I would point out, that Dasher already has support for all sorts of languages, so if someone ported Dasher to Android, it would give it another unique option for text input in all sorts of languages.
Here is a link that shows the language files already available for Dasher.
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/download/alphabets/ALPHABETS.html
I like it. the interface may have to be reconfigured a bit. but in general, i think it is inovative. and i like it
This is a great idea. I hope someone picks up on this for Android!
This was brought up sometime early last year.
Nothing came of it, but no objections were raised, so afaik its not impossible. And I agree it would be pretty good to try out
/shameless bump
This does look very interesting. <quick google> Hmm, maybe worth keeping an eye on this blog entry & this comments section too.
Lol -- I hadn't tried googling it in a while -- thanks for the heads up!! Glad to see someone is on it!
FYI Here is a video of it working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-t80ld8MY
Yup, looking good. I hope there'll be something we can beta test soon. I'm curious to find out what kind of speed it can manage. Also how the size of the keyboard will impact on usage.
Wahhou
Dasher is awesome !!!!
Please, tell me when you will have finish with Dasher for Android! I can't wait !!!!
Sure, I would like to help you, but I haven't any skills in programming, so I*could make beta testing.
Thanks a lot,
Have a good day
awww did this thread die?
There is a java version on the dasher website, don't know if that would make it any easier to port.
If it was done it would need a left handed or right hand option so your thumb doesn't cover suggestions, or maybe working from the bottom of the screen as opposed to the left.
I hope someone does work on this, I can imagine it is very fast once you are used to it.
Hi all. I was asked by a family friend to prepare a tablet for use by a person who is confined to a hospital bed. He has limited mobility, I think only one side of his body. Additionally, he is very old, so I imagine his eyesight is poor. I have not met with him yet, so I don't know all of the details, but I'm trying to prepare myself with some knowledge about what I can do when I meet him.
So, here I am asking for suggestions. I have a plan for mounting the iconia, so I'm good there; what I need is software suggestions for programs that he can use. His interests are:
1) web browsing
2) email
3) writing
The other thing I need help with is finding programs that will make the iconia easier to use generally: larger text, brighter icons, ?
For web browsing, I think Dolphin for Pad will be best, but I'll install opera too, just to see which he likes. Anyone know if there is a browser that would be particularly easy to use? Also, I don't know what news sources will be best, but as far as I can tell, the CNN app is the best for the tablet (even though I detest CNN. The NYtimes app has tiny text and is not fun to navigate...)
For email I think the default email client will work. If he uses gmail, I'll do that, if he has more than one I'll aggregate them in the gmail client. If he's stuck to hotmail (he's old...) I'll use the regular email client unless someone has a better suggestion.
For writing I have Docs to Go full and Quickoffice Pro. I also have the Flex T9 keyboard. Anyone have better suggestions? \
Thanks all in advance! I know this is going to be a challenge: I don't think he's ever even used a tablet, so the learning curve here will be steep. If this doesn't work, we may try an iPad (gasp!) just because it's harder to **** up, but I'd prefer to stick to the android so I can provide remote support (I'm keeping my galaxy 10.1!)
You've got yourself quite a hard task ahead of you. Mostly because there are almost no accessibility functions or applications available for Android devices at all. And you say that he's physically disabled, possibly not being able to use the other side of his body... so, how's he going to hold the tablet up and use it at the same time?
I personally feel a regular laptop would be a better choice. Sure, it's heavier, but there's far far more software for accessibility uses and it can easily be used even one-handed.
you can also try the w500. windows contains a lot of disabled functions.
Thanks for the two suggestions. In my original post I omitted the part about it being mounted above his head (the post was getting pretty long). He will not have to hold it, nor could he. We have already determined that a laptop will not work. I already have the iconia, and I'd like to try to make it work. Again, thanks for the suggestions, but what I'm really looking for is software for android or settings withing android that will make this work.
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Thanks for the two suggestions. In my original post I omitted the part about it being mounted above his head (the post was getting pretty long). He will not have to hold it, nor could he. We have already determined that a laptop will not work. I already have the iconia, and I'd like to try to make it work. Again, thanks for the suggestions, but what I'm really looking for is software for android or settings withing android that will make this work.
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Android simply was not designed with accessibility in mind.. :/
Bump. I know that some of you have some real ideas, not just naysaying. I didn't mention before that I'm not rooted but would be happy to root if there would be any advantages...
(please - no more discouraging responses. I have some ideas on how to do this, and it will probably work, I'm just looking for other ideas that maybe I hadn't considered yet).
Bull**** spotted!
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Android simply was not designed with accessibility in mind.. :/
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You are sooooooo wrong.
Many Android users have disabilities that require them to interact with their Android devices in different ways. These include users who have visual, physical or age-related disabilities that prevent them from fully using or seeing a touchscreen.
Android provides an accessibility layer that helps these users navigate their Android-powered devices more easily. Android's accessibility services provide things like text-to-speech, haptic feedback, and trackball/d-pad navigation that augment the user experience.
Your application should follow the guidelines in this document to ensure that it provides a good experience for users with disabilities. Following these two basic rules will solve most access-related problems:
Make all of your user interface controls accessible with a trackball or directional controller (d-pad).
Label your ImageButton, EditText, and other input widgets using the android:contentDescription attribute.
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ANDROID DO SUPPORT ACCESSIBILITY AND PROVIDE TOOLS TO DO IT SO...
tsss.
@slack04
he is very old, so I imagine his eyesight is poor.
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check this websites.
http://eyes-free.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/documentation/android_access/index.html
http://eyes-free.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/documentation/android_access/enabling.html
http://eyes-free.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/documentation/android_access/apps.html
Good luck
You can use Desktop Visualizer to make the on screen icons larger
try to change the LCD dpi in build.prop. use a Bluetooth mouse as a pointer or a those ipad pens. The rest is trying to use the voice for launching the most important applications. I think it can be done and he will enjoy the tablet.
Good Luck
kekinash said:
try to change the LCD dpi in build.prop. use a Bluetooth mouse as a pointer or a those ipad pens. The rest is trying to use the voice for launching the most important applications. I think it can be done and he will enjoy the tablet.
Good Luck
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Can anyone confirm that this will make the screen icons larger? I don't think he's blind to the point where talkback will be useful, but I do think that larger type/icons would definitely be a positive. I have a few cheap soft-tip styluses; is there a real difference between them? I will get one of the $20 ones if that will really make it easier to use.
Also, looks like I need to root this thing. I'm comfortable with that; I have rooted more than a few gizmos in my life; anyone have a suggestion for a good ROM (or anything else root related specific to my question)?
Wtf?
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Don't you love how the Internet makes everyone an instant expert?
Tried going to settings accessibility screen reader?
Android may not have a lot available yet, but accessibility is definitely in mind
Slack, first off I commend you for helping him, your a good man. For News try News 360 & World News papers. Each one you can touch zoom what your reading & the latter formats what your reading on the page. CNN,AGREE ! Don't forget a stand for him to use on his bed side roller table.
Good luck,
Bob
I forgot, Fox News just came out with an Android app. Not bad.
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Bull**** spotted!
You are sooooooo wrong.
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Hey guys, WereCatf is pretty good as far as helping people out around here. I understand how she sees the current accessibility options. They are pretty weak at this stage. For instance, if someone wanted to change their font size globally, without root and slack04's spiffy trick they would have quite a time. There are no contrast controls that I know of in the accessibility options, or anywhere else. That seems to me that it would be included for the visually impared if much thought had gone into it at all. There looks to be a huge absence of apps for the disabled. Ripe and waiting for some developer to tap into.
Maybe you fellas should consider taking a look around at some of her posts. Perhaps you might rethink the comments.
Do you think the handwriting is good enough for taking notes in class? I'm in an engineering program, and note-taking with a keyboard is really not possible with the amount of math we do.
I don't care about the OCR, I just need to have everything archived. I really just want to replace all of my paper notebooks.
Yeah I'm in the same position. It works quite well for taking notes. Although the palm rejection on the stock note taking app sometimes doesn't work the OCR is incredible considering most humans can't understand my handwriting. For my engineering class I used an app called Quill. It has a stylus only mode so only the stylus writes on the pad. It has several different page options notebook and graphing paper that I use frequently. You can also export to pdf or png if you like but it keeps an archive of your entire notebook collection that you can backup to another location.
I know that's more than you asked for so in short the handwriting is more than acceptable for my uses. If you want I could write something out for you(but my none tablet handwriting isn't the best though)
Be sure to check out this thread from Lenovo's forum.
I use the TPT for college. This term for Calculus and Chem. I use my ThinkPad Tablet to take notes in class all the time. Here are some example math notes. Since its inception, I've been using Quill exclusively for all my note taking. Thanks Volker! :smileyhappy:
I do not find it heavy or cumbersome at all. As a PDF e-reader/annotator it shines! I have 3 textbooks on it and it works great. I recommend Mantano Reader or ezPDF. I do not see why it wouldn't work great as an e-reader in general. I have a Gen3 kindle, so non-PDF e-reading would be done on it as it is easier on the eyes, battery life, a lot lighter, etc.
Bundled with the right add-ons, it can also be used as a means to write a paper, etc. (Although it'll be better when LibreOffice ports their suite to Android).
Using a HP TouchPad Bluetooth Keyboard & Logitech Wireless M305 mouse.
I now own all Android Office apps thanks to Amazon's daily free app. I'd say each are quirky honestly, but I simply like the UI of OfficeSuite Pro & QuickOffice Pro HD rather than the bundled Docs to Go. In the end, each work. Google Docs remains unusable for me due to some unknown bug that leaves me with a white screen.
I opted against the keyboard folio, due to them not being instock at the beginning, Lenovo plauging people's lives with direct orders and people complaining about the mouse. All in all, my setup is cheaper and maybe smaller/lighter albeit not as mobile... I also love this keyboard, it's practically full-size or at least feels it.
As a replacement to a laptop, it is almost there but not quite, the browsers available via market are more than enough.
I get a lot of use out of it. But I'll be honest, without Quill, it wouldn't be getting much use other than a PDF reader/annotator and light browsing.
An article worth reading/skimming: ThinkPad Tablet Experience by The Gadgeteer.
I wish i had one of these when I was in engineering school.
Using mine for annotating PDFs in law school now.
^any chance you could throw up a screen shot of how it looks annotating a pdf on this? Im looking to a tab as an e-reader for journal articles and medical manuals and the lack of annotating ability is what has kept me from buying one yet.
Are you able to take notes/highlight/pretty much anything else you can with a pen and paper?
Also, is it possible to annotate and save over the original file or will it save a separate file with you annotations? ie if i have file"x.pdf" and I annotate it, when i save, will it replace x.pdf with the original file with my notes on it or will I have a completely separate file with the orig and my notes?
Thanks!
I'm using ezPDF Reader to annotate and highlight my pdfs.
It isn't exactly like pen&paper but it's ok for me:
You can highlight only text because you have to long-press on a word to get the text-selection handles. Then you have to select the text you like and choose if you want to highlight/unterline/strikeout. In other words: there is noch free-hand highlighting (so no highlighting of text in images or diagrams).
But there is a free-hand markup tool which you can select from the toolbar to write allover the document.
As soon as you try to highlight something in ezPDF for the first time it asks if you want to create a copy "x.annotated.pdf" or if you want to keep the original file "x.pdf"
rupheos said:
Yeah I'm in the same position. It works quite well for taking notes. Although the palm rejection on the stock note taking app sometimes doesn't work the OCR is incredible considering most humans can't understand my handwriting. For my engineering class I used an app called Quill. It has a stylus only mode so only the stylus writes on the pad. It has several different page options notebook and graphing paper that I use frequently. You can also export to pdf or png if you like but it keeps an archive of your entire notebook collection that you can backup to another location.
I know that's more than you asked for so in short the handwriting is more than acceptable for my uses. If you want I could write something out for you(but my none tablet handwriting isn't the best though)
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Can you post images from your notes showing the capabilities of the TPT and Quill? I'm in engineering too and I would like to see if this is a real paper substitute. (Obscure.detour has too nice of handwriting for me to judge )
nsfl said:
Can you post images from your notes showing the capabilities of the TPT and Quill? I'm in engineering too and I would like to see if this is a real paper substitute. (Obscure.detour has too nice of handwriting for me to judge )
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Haha My notes are from Quill as well. It isn't that nice of hand writing
I use my TPT for extensive note taking in class both written and mathmatical notes. The winning combination for me has been:
1. Writepad stylus (notes)
2. ezPDFreader (reading and annotating PDF s)
3. QuickOffice Pro (word, power point, excel)
4. Thinking Space (brainstorming)
5. Smooth Calendar (assignments)
nsfl said:
Can you post images from your notes showing the capabilities of the TPT and Quill? I'm in engineering too and I would like to see if this is a real paper substitute. (Obscure.detour has too nice of handwriting for me to judge )
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I send notes to students using quill.