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Ebook Reader Available?

Just had a look at Marketplace and can't see an ebook reader client.
Anyone know of one please? I would have thought that the HD2 big screen was perfect for reading.

The HD2 is excellent for reading ebooks, but you need to specify which format your ebooks are in.
My preference is for Mobipocket but this can't handle protected eReader files. For that you would need to download eReader . However I couldn't get this to install from the PC installer, though it's OK from This topic using the CAB file.

Thanks Neil, I'll give them both a try.

I like both but prefer Mobipocket!
Just a hint though- with both you need to go into the options to select screen tapping to tunr pages as the HD2 doesn't have a D-Pad
Oh- & both are free programs!

What is an ebook? I mean what is the file extension? Is there only one format for all the ebooks out there? Is it a LIT like the Microsoft Reader, or a different format?

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What is an ebook? I mean what is the file extension? Is there only one format for all the ebooks out there? Is it a LIT like the Microsoft Reader, or a different format?
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The file extensions are dependent on the format the ebook is encoded with, which determines which ebook reader needs to be used.
Ebooks are either encrypted or open format. To comply with the publishers requirements, all mainstream ebooks are encrypted, and different formats use different modes of protection. There is an increasing problem with being able to buy ebooks in different countries- for example many ebooks available from FictionWise can't be downloaded in UK due to licensing restrictions, but another company, BooksOnBoard have a bigger selection of globally available titles.
As you mention, Microsoft Reader used the .lit extension, but as this program doesn't work with WM6 it's a bit of a problem. There are other programs than can read .lit files, such as uBook (microbook) but they can't read any with DRM. There are ways however to strip the DRM on the PC version of MS Reader which still works.
The earliest mobile ebook reader was on the Palm Pocket, and the program I mentioned above, eReader works with these files which are still being used for mainstream books. They have the .pdb file extension
Mobipocket books have the .prc file extension but Mobipocket can also read html, text files and unencrypted eReader files.
There is unfortunately a move towards more proprietary formats with the release of devices like the Amazon and Sony ebook hardware. Also, many new ebooks are being released using the ePub format which is an Adobe protocol and is not available for any mobile devices.
Sorry for the long post! Its abit of a soapbox for me as I've been usign ebooks for a long time and relish the idea of having a large number of books always available on my devcie, especially on holiday. I don't like the way my choice has been limited more and more over the past year!

If you have your books in simple text formats (ie txt, rtf, doc, html), alreader should be perfect for you.

the format which is winning the ebook format wars is .epub and there is areader out there for that particular format...Freda

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the format which is winning the ebook format wars is .epub and there is areader out there for that particular format...Freda
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Thanks for that- it's a very good start. It is only for non-encrypted ePub files though, and unfortunatley the vast majority of commercial titles are encrypted

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Thanks for that- it's a very good start. It is only for non-encrypted ePub files though, and unfortunatley the vast majority of commercial titles are encrypted
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There are tools on the internet that can be used for decrypting DRM-protected EPUBS (a Google search on INEPT will lead you in the right direction). Depending where you live, it may or may not be legal for you to download and use them though
Jim

I use Micrsoft Reader and Mobipocket. First because I have a big archive with books in .lit format, and the second one because I can convert lots of formats in books who works for it and I like this program allot. one problem if I can call it a problem is lack of updates for it. For example to make progress bar from bottom of page bigger or to make some animation with page flip (now I see iPad have implemented that). It may seem like some graphics nonsense but I think this are very important because of psychological effect (feeling good reading a book but filing good about it from start of the program) at the end of day you read a book to relax and feel good (technical or any educational books come usual in .pdf format so are not included in discussion). and I think because of power and size of screen HD2 deserve better graphics. Don't forget that iPhone had big success because of better graphics with a OS witch odder ways it was waaaaay inferior to WM, just because of that psychological effect created by very well designed graphics.

Grab a copy of freda (search here on xda). It's the best free epub reader out there. There'll be a new version released soon by Jim.

I do like Freda, but it's not finger friendly. Particularly the Library View. You need fingers like a small bushbaby to select a particular book.
Best I've tried up to now though.

I used Palm to read ebooks since lots of years ago, when I moved to WM I still using the same aplication: iSilo
iSilo consist in two aplications... one in WM wich you use to read and another on the pc wich you use to encode the files to iSilo format (pdb). You can encode lots of file formats including plain txt and html (with images) or grab complete websites.
I love iSilo cause a 5 megabytes pdf can be just a 200k pdb file and got autoscroll with is a feature I love to read books (ipad don't have that)

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I do like Freda, but it's not finger friendly. Particularly the Library View. You need fingers like a small bushbaby to select a particular book.
Best I've tried up to now though.
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I hope you've popped some feedback on the freda thread. Jim is always looking for improvements so comments from the user base will drive this!

Yep I will fix that display to make the lines a bit bigger. Actually, I've been thinking about implementing a setting to let the user control the font-size and line spacing used for controls (because some people don't mind poking the screen with a fingernail, whereas others really want to use finger-tips - but there is a trade-off in that the larger the controls, the fewer lines will fit the screen).
Anyhow, I had been thinking the setting should have values called 'small/medium/large', but it's clear that what I need is 'bushbaby/human/gorilla'
Thanks for using Freda.
Jim

what about flip page animation like in SPB Shell v.2 or iPad? Is that posible to implement?

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Yep I will fix that display to make the lines a bit bigger. Actually, I've been thinking about implementing a setting to let the user control the font-size and line spacing used for controls (because some people don't mind poking the screen with a fingernail, whereas others really want to use finger-tips - but there is a trade-off in that the larger the controls, the fewer lines will fit the screen).
Anyhow, I had been thinking the setting should have values called 'small/medium/large', but it's clear that what I need is 'bushbaby/human/gorilla'
Thanks for using Freda.
Jim
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Thanks Jim, sounds good. One point I will make is that the HD2 has a capacitive touch screen and, as you no doubt know, a fingernail won't register a touch at all. Almost any other body part is fine though .
I look forward to the next version of Freda.

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what about flip page animation like in SPB Shell v.2 or iPad? Is that posible to implement?
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Freda has a rather simplistic animation which appears when you scroll up/down, or slide pages left/right. It would be nice to more sophisticated animation approach (like Stanza for instance), which shows the page contents distorted and shaded as they turn. I may implement that at some stage, but it would be complicated because I'd have to use the DirectDraw Sprite APIs, rather than the regular .NetCF GDI APIs - and that (a) would involve a fair amount of re-writing (b) might create portability problems.
Thanks for your interest in Freda,
Jim

Thanks for answer. I think a program with this kind of features will became no one on market because the trent (made by Apple) is for people to looking to "looks" of progams and not their utility.
Just my opinion.

eReading - Do you on TP2 and how?

I began to do the majority of my pleasure reading (commercial non-fiction books were in very short supply back then) on my Palm m500 back in 2003, and now I do the vast majority of all my reading on handhelds. The biggest advantage back then was never having to choose what book to carry around with me -- I could take my entire library on an SD card. The next biggest advantage was the backlight -- I experienced a dramatic reduction in eyestrain for night reading. I now purchase 2 or 3 paper books a year, and 30-40 ebooks a year.
I think e-ink is the most over-rated screen tech in existence. Once Pixel Qi ends up in a decent tablet, I might get one of those. But spending $200 on a device that is so limited, can't have a real backlight (ah the "joys" of having to lug around a friggin booklight) for night reading, and most of the cost is in the screen is insane. Especially when you can get most of the same benefits out of a cheap LCD (adding only some reflective layer tech) while preserving other media tasks like video. Until then, my TP2 is my primary reading device.
Book form
I hadn't anticipated this little advantage before I bought a TP2, but I'm becoming attached to it. When reading, I typically hold it in what I now consider to be book form (a little Nintendo DS terminology). Keyboard out, screen slightly tilted, index finger in gap between back of screen and base of device, leaving my thumb to rest right on the device's arrow keys, software used to keep the screen in portrait mode even though the kb is out.
For me, this particular form means easy page-turning and one handed reading while laying down before I go to sleep. Previously I tried assigning the volume slider for page turning, but found it not entirely comfortable. I assigned one of the lower face keys to page turn, but that wasn't any more comfortable than screen tapping (errant screen taps in both my reading applications also potentially bring up menus, which I find annoying).
If you have software that allows you to rotate the screen 180* or 90* (as Rhodium Keyboard Controller allows you to do manually), you can switch to the left hand if you like as well. You'd need to assign another key for page-turning on the opposite end of the keyboard, but RKC will allow you to assign letters to "up" and "down" for that application only, so it wouldn't affect usage outside your preferred reader application.
Software:
I've been using eReader (owned by B&N, managed by fictionwise, formerly palm digital media and peanut press) for 7 years, as that was my initial source of books. But when I switch to windows mobile, I hated the changes they made to their application and how much space WinMo's top and bottom bars took up (especially in widescreen mode). I instantly began requesting feature changes to it, but I doubt they'll ever get anywhere. WinMo isn't the hottest platform and they originally dev'd this one years and years ago.
I used Freda almost exclusively until upgrading to XDAndroid. Originally I just got it for some free sources like the baen free library, that use epub since Freda is one of only two epub readers on the market. But the full screen mode is so fantastic I've decided to go all in.
Now I use Moon+ reader, which still allows me to go fullscreen, choose a black background with green text, lock the screen in portrait and has a wide variety of other customization options. I do believe the TP2 is the best ereader using Android.
Color scheme
One thing I sort of liked about eReader for WinMo was that it allowed you to use textures as a background. They had pre-made marble and papery background images you could use. But when I start using Freda and had access to the full screen mode, I began experimenting with other plainer themes. I accidentally tried a black background with a sharp green text, and suddenly it was like I was reading on my old m500 again.
The advantages to this, especially for night time reading in fullscreen mode, are that 1) I've got a lot less white or whitish light pouring into my eyes making them uncomfortable 2) I can achieve better visibility for low light reading with a lower backlight level meaning I get longer battery life and 3) I'm comfortable reading smaller fonts with this particular setup than I was with lighter backgrounds (though I don't entirely understand why), meaning less frequent page turning.
You can do this with any reader, but doing so in the winmo ereader app kinda sucked some of the advantages out of it because there's no fullscreen mode, so I still had white light pouring off the top and bottom bars.
Extras
I use GSPlayer while I read, mainly because it has a sleep timer (I'll probably upgrade to microfi-nitrogen someday). So at night, I do my reading, then just as my eyes are feeling tired enough to sleep, I flip over to GSP and turn off the display, and then fall asleep to the relaxing mp3 of my choice. My TP2 is the last thing I use at night, and with G-Alarm, it's also the first thing I use in the morning. On XDAndroid, Mortplayer fills in for GSP.
What about you?
Do you eread with your TP2? How much and when? What's your software, book source, preferred colors and fonts? Widescreen, portrait, do you use book form? Do you page turn with keys or screen taps?
eReading is one of my primary mobile computing tasks, and has been for years. I think the TP2 is about the perfect mobile device for it at the moment (about the only thing better would be a TP2 + an HD2 sized screen... with Pixel Qi), but I haven't noticed a ton of people here talking about it. I'd love to hear from other big ereaders on their methods.

Mobipocket Reader is what I use. I touch the screen for turning pages.

iSilo all the way
I've been using iSilo from the beginning --all the way back from when they use WinCE? ok.. maybe Windows Mobile 2003 or something like that.
Best thing with iSilo is
1) Reader is free (you can use the free with limited functions, but does not hinder reading 'books')
2) iSiloX convert is free (convert any *.txt, *.htm, etc to iSilo format). There are various converters to convert your *.doc or *.pdf or what have you to *.txt to convert with iSilo.
3) iSilo has a very small foot print as compared to similar *.txt or *.doc files.
4) Easily configurable on all aspects from fonts/colors (foreground, background) to various keys to turn the page. When I switched to the Rhodium, I used the lower 50% or the screen to turn the page and the top to scroll up (back).
5) Easily install the iSilo.exe executable on the SD card and has catalogue-ing features.
Lastly, they've got iSilo versions for the Blackberry, Palm, Android and the iPhone (should you need it).
But don't take my word for it: http://isilo.com/
PS. Been reading ebooks on the PocketPC platform before even Kindle came out. Why spend $200+ on a standalone ebook reader, I could never figure out.

Opps, forgot to mention conversion. calibre is the ultimate tool in ebook conversion and organization. I don't think isilo is one of its many formats, but for anyone looking to do conversions to growing formats like epub, it's fantastic.

Thanks Fortunz for starting this thread, ive been considering using my TP2 to read, but not really known what progs to use etc..i'll try some out now
Cheers

free books
Some free (legal) book sources: baen free library (commercial authors, mostly scifi and fantasy who release the 1st book or so in their series hoping you'll get hook and buy later versions -- I recommend David Weber), manybooks (downloads gutenburg project texts in many formats), smashwords (a lot of indies, not all free), http://www.feedbooks.com/, and you can also find a lot of indie authors freely distributing some of their work at mobileread et al.
osrix25 said:
Thanks Fortunz for starting this thread, ive been considering using my TP2 to read, but not really known what progs to use etc..i'll try some out now
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It's really a fantastic device for reading. Let me know how you like it.

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Some free (legal) book sources: baen free library (commercial authors, mostly scifi and fantasy who release the 1st book or so in their series hoping you'll get hook and buy later versions -- I recommend David Weber), manybooks (downloads gutenburg project texts in many formats), smashwords (a lot of indies, not all free), http://www.feedbooks.com/, and you can also find a lot of indie authors freely distributing some of their work at mobileread et al.
It's really a fantastic device for reading. Let me know how you like it.
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Thanks for the links. I use MobiPocket Reader, and I agree, the TP2 (Tilt2) is an excellent device for reading.

personally I use microsoft Reader, I have a ginormous .lit collection. hundreds of titles to choose from, if not thousands, good features as well.

fortunz said:
Opps, forgot to mention conversion. calibre is the ultimate tool in ebook conversion and organization. I don't think isilo is one of its many formats, but for anyone looking to do conversions to growing formats like epub, it's fantastic.
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What format do you convert your ebooks to for use with ereader with this program?

Which reader can read PDB extension books rather than Isilo?

The calibre program he posted can but i'm lost on what to convert it to.

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The calibre program he posted can but i'm lost on what to convert it to.
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Overproof said:
What format do you convert your ebooks to for use with ereader with this program?
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If you have ebooks in a non-pdb format that you want to read in eReader for WinMo, you convert them to .pdb. After you choose to convert books there's a little dropdown in the upper right-hand corner for output format. If I misunderstood your question, please do post back.

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Mobireader and haalireader can both read pdb files. Haalireader was very good but hasn't been updated for some time and really needs a dpad to control it. It was great on my Diamond but Mobireader is better on the TP2

Thanks!!!
Oh man, this is great! I've been looking for a decent ebook reader forever. I use to use MS Reader back in the QVGA days, but it is really not optimized for large, high-res screens like the TP2. And every other program was made 5+ years ago, has crappy Windows-3.1-esque visuals, and has a UI meant to be used only with a stylus.
Freda is AWESOME!!! Finally something as good Stanza on my iPod (or at least close). Thank you so much for sharing!

I have a huge collection of books in .lit format so have been forced to use MS Reader. Alas, it hasn't been updated in years and is showing its age.
My biggest gripe with Reader is that on my Tilt 2 I can't touch the tiny little page-turning arrows with my finger, so have to either use my stylus or open the keyboard and read in landscape mode and use the arrow keys.
Thanks to an earlier poster, I found calibre. I'm going to use that to convert my .lit library to a different format so I can use a different e-reader.

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I have a huge collection of books in .lit format so have been forced to use MS Reader. Alas, it hasn't been updated in years and is showing its age.
My biggest gripe with Reader is that on my Tilt 2 I can't touch the tiny little page-turning arrows with my finger, so have to either use my stylus or open the keyboard and read in landscape mode and use the arrow keys.
Thanks to an earlier poster, I found calibre. I'm going to use that to convert my .lit library to a different format so I can use a different e-reader.
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Same here. I'm at work and couldn't wait to try this out, so a little googling also turned up this site: www.2epub.com.
It's an online converter that will do conversions between .lit, epub, etc. I'll probably install Calibre on my home computer, but that site was helpful in a pinch.

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If you have ebooks in a non-pdb format that you want to read in eReader for WinMo, you convert them to .pdb. After you choose to convert books there's a little dropdown in the upper right-hand corner for output format. If I misunderstood your question, please do post back.
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Let me try this out and see, thanks in advance!

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Freda is AWESOME!!! Finally something as good Stanza on my iPod (or at least close). Thank you so much for sharing!
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I love Freda too. It's written by a guy who was very unsatisfied with current reader options, much like you and I. Personally, I only use it in full screen mode and page change with the arrow keys, but between screen tapping and making the soft buttons page turners, it's very friendly to a variety of users with different UI preferences.
He just emailed me a new version to test, so I expect sometime soon there will be some extra features to enjoy.
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Thanks to an earlier poster, I found calibre. I'm going to use that to convert my .lit library to a different format so I can use a different e-reader.
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Calibre is wonderful, not only for conversions but also for organization of large book collections, which I have.
Be forewarned though, it doesn't typically handle DRM, so if your .lits are DRM'd, you might have to deDRM (there are a lot of projects to handle that, and you can take their output and have calibre put it in your format of choice) them before you convert them.

I have been using uBook http://www.gowerpoint.com/ for years. First on my Ipaq, then Axim x51v and now on my TP2. I has improved greatly to a great touch screen eReader that supports all kinds of standard file formats HTML, PDF, TXT and any of these can be in ZIP files.

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I have a huge collection of books in .lit format so have been forced to use MS Reader. Alas, it hasn't been updated in years and is showing its age.
My biggest gripe with Reader is that on my Tilt 2 I can't touch the tiny little page-turning arrows with my finger, so have to either use my stylus or open the keyboard and read in landscape mode and use the arrow keys.
Thanks to an earlier poster, I found calibre. I'm going to use that to convert my .lit library to a different format so I can use a different e-reader.
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If you use a zoom bar hack in Advanced Configuration, you can flip pages with the zoom bar. If you have AC on your TP2, go to menu > more settings > smarttouch, then add Microsoft Reader to the supported applications list. The hardest part is getting the right wheel sensitivity so that when you scroll you only flip one page. I'd tell you what the best number is but I just flashed my ROM and I forgot the correct setting But once you figure it out, it gives you a nice lil page turning feel to your ebooks.

[Q] can you edit word documents with the pen?

to use the stylus to write directly onto a word document with just a jpeg picture on with the pressure sensitivity. this would be incredibly useful and worth the price tag alone.
Do you have to be a guest to attend the london launch event tonight?
as soon as someone confirms this is possible I will go ahead and purchase it. Nb I don't even need the ability necesserily to converrt with the device as I can do that on my computer but to write on the word document is what I need.
If there ar any developers as such who read this could you please do some research because Im sure others would love this feature, saving edited word documents big respect to all the kitchen people, this device is going to be incredible.

n e one know about this. Well I guess I will just have to spend the money to found out come tomorrow. The most amazing thing will be, if i teamviewer my homepc when away from it using whatever teamviewer apps android have hese days and it recognizes the samsung stylus as wacom compatible then i can write on all my home documents when away from the 'office' as it were.
this would be incredible and i will try it out, to continue the conversation with myself. surely this is something a german would have though of by now though... ,.... cheers

im going to edit this thread for at least two weeks with creative ideas like for an application to capture every page of a word document, say if there is 100 pages automatically then save it in one large folder as jpegs or png which will allow the user the draw on word documents effectively.

Isn't it more simple to convert a word document to a PDF file and make notes in the PDF file? There are even already PDF converters and PDF edititng apps with which you can draw notes available in the market.

yes i can, but then i would have to convert back to a word document, only doing to by saving the pages as jpegs then inserting them into word without OCR recognition.(because ocr recognition or anything similar messed it up[see below for specifics]) I do this though because then I can see my notes over three large monitors whilst all pdf viewers like adobe for windows only allow you to see two pages at a time clearly on one screen.
Having amassed allot of notes into jpg formatt, which is actually quite useful. editing them with a wacom pen is quite bliss. Although most pdf to word converters claim to work, I believe it is very hard and having searched high and low for years they never render the text acurately enouph , specifically tables , graphs, maths language etc.
So you are right in that I could convert my word document s back to pdf , ocr ecognize them in adobe and then draw on the with the samsung. Then, convert them back to word in jpegs to see 6 or more documents at a time although the transition of when i get back to my office from a day 'out' taking notes will be quite unpractical in that I have to spend a while saving my pdf's into jpeg format and overwriting my older file,,then having to convert back again when i go back 'out' to make notes.
This is presuming I can edit my notes when I get back to the office, and knowing the wacom pen works with the samsung im sure this shouldnt be a proble as i ave a wacom intuos 4.
Having said that... ... brain stops thinking. I should patten my idea of an application that screen captures every page in a document automatically or series of documents. If i knew how to program id make a few bucks...hint hint anyone who reads this with broad android knowledge. I've never used android before
also i've sent consirable time snipping parts of pages in pdfs to insert as jpegs into word and this takes up 50% of my time editing them in word. So, your right I think in that 50% of the time for those native files i have in pdf I'm sorted otherwise im not considering the stamp feature to amnually put in 100 stamps for each document .... . I asked a guy on youtube if he could test a word document for me.
in terms of development if you'd like me to specify what i mean about teamviewer and the current use of wacom pens in word 2010 id be happy to screenshot and show you. But ideally the world wants this feature on release(with an app). Same goes for the editing word documents fingers crossed i guess as there is no light as of yet in the note specific apps or what is in the device by default specifically . cheerz

Some tweaks I would still like to see to S Notes

Here's my list of things they still need to add to S Notes to make it compete with a true note taking powerhouse like Echo Pen (this is a physical pen which takes notes on special paper, not a software but for me it is the chief competition to using S Notes all the time).
1) Have a way to record and embed a sound file anywhere within the page.
2) Make it so you can append audio notes to the end of an already recorded note page. As of now you can only delete the audio file and start over once it has been saved.
3) There is still the incredibly annoying zoom bug when writing at the bottom of the page if the user rests their palm on the screen.
4) They need to add a continuous scrolling feature to pages so that i can always be writing at the top half of the screen. Having to physically add a new page is annoying and unnecessary and forces the user to rest their palm on the bottom of the screen which causes problems.
5) Add a better highlighting feature to the pen for highlighting typed text other than choosing the highlighting marker. On typed text I prefer a nice clean straight highlighted line.
6) Please please please allow us to create our own templates? We are adults, we can handle the responsibility.
7) Allow us to add our own permanent background images. As of now you can add one and it disappears in the next session. Nonsensical.
8) Allow us to add our own text styles to the style sheet. If I choose Arial 16 point for the keyboard, stop changing me back to Roboto 22 every time I re-open S Notes. I LIKE Arial 16, got it?
9) Allow me to place the typing cursor anywhere I like by tapping the pen on the screen.
10) Since in their wisdom Samsung has decided to go with the truly obscure .snb standard (why?), please create a reader for us where we can view our S-Notes in Windows, Mac, etc environments. I have tried the various aftermarket .snb readers and so far nothing can decipher Samsung's proprietary flavor. C'mon guys, you are now competing against Windows 8, get it together.
There is so much about S-Notes that is done well and so much that seems like it would be easy to implement but they just didn't bother.
** And please no one suggest to me I try a different note-taking app. I like S-Notes, it just has some rough edges. I don't care for the way Lecture Notes interacts with the S-Pen.
Any other ideas? I plan on going to Samsung's lame Support Facebook Page and recommending these - lord I wish they had a real Forum like every other tech firm on the planet - oh well.

S Note is WIP may be some application developer work on it

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S Note is WIP may be some application developer work on it
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I hope so. However, of my experience with these sort of things is at all prophetic, they will end up adding features I don't care about and rarely use and not add the functionality I could use every day. The fact is none of these things I am suggesting would even be difficult as they exist in other competing products already. For some reason they simply choose not to implement. It's not that they can't they won't.

Try LectureNotes. It's far more superior.

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Try LectureNotes. It's far more superior.
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I don't like Lecture Notes. Hate the way the pen writes. I want to use S Notes because of the way it integrates with the entire ecosystem.

mitchellvii said:
Here's my list of things they still need to add to S Notes to make it compete with a true note taking powerhouse like Echo Pen (this is a physical pen which takes notes on special paper, not a software but for me it is the chief competition to using S Notes all the time).
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10) Since in their wisdom Samsung has decided to go with the truly obscure .snb standard (why?), please create a reader for us where we can view our S-Notes in Windows, Mac, etc environments. I have tried the various aftermarket .snb readers and so far nothing can decipher Samsung's proprietary flavor. C'mon guys, you are now competing against Windows 8, get it together.
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Probably you already know, but I recently discovered that the .snb files are just zipped compressed files. They can be unpacked with any unzip program.
Inside the archive there are many image files (.png), many .xml files, some mysterious .rels file and a .zdib file. See yourself if you feel like investigating more.
Just in case someone didn't know that...

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Probably you already know, but I recently discovered that the .snb files are just zipped compressed files. They can be unpacked with any unzip program.
Inside the archive there are many image files (.png), many .xml files, some mysterious .rels file and a .zdib file. See yourself if you feel like investigating more.
Just in case someone didn't know that...
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But is there a reader that can view them as created on a PC?

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But is there a reader that can view them as created on a PC?
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I don't know that but probably a programmer could work on it if the files archived in the .snb are not proprietary/encripted. I've some doubt about the .zdib files... I didn't find any reference on the net about this extension (apart from this other one)

mitchellvii said:
I don't like Lecture Notes. Hate the way the pen writes. I want to use S Notes because of the way it integrates with the entire ecosystem.
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Honest man... I like it!

I wish they would just add a 'zoom lock', which I think would take care of the palm zoom problem.

sphere314 said:
I don't know that but probably a programmer could work on it if the files archived in the .snb are not proprietary/encripted. I've some doubt about the .zdib files... I didn't find any reference on the net about this extension (apart from this other one)
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There are .snb readers. They just don't work with Samsungs brand of .snb.
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Edit Samsung apps within Evernote

Hi,
One of the most useful things I was hoping for with my Note3 was the ability to write, doodle and brainstorm on the phone when I am lonely in the pub. Evernote let's me share notebooks and can be so useful. However I, or clients, can't edit these notes within Evernote (computer or by phone) instead they are saved as JPEGs, or even PDFs which I can't edit.
I'm a graphic designer and web developer and have always had a real note book (paper) with me for such occasions and the Note has always appealed massively for being able to digitize and share my notes stuff on the fly.
I don't really care if it's S Note, or another app (I like Notes Mobile too) and would even be prepared to leave Evernote it gave me the sync and share options that I need.
My question is this: Has anybody found a workaround, or combo of apps that means their notes can be shared and edited (text anyway) by others on desktop and/or mobile?
OK, I thought SNote save as PDF and share with Evernote might work but it doesn't. A couple of apps will save as PSD which is kind of good but I haven't tried that out yet.

Blizzaa said:
Hi,
One of the most useful things I was hoping for with my Note3 was the ability to write, doodle and brainstorm on the phone when I am lonely in the pub. Evernote let's me share notebooks and can be so useful. However I, or clients, can't edit these notes within Evernote (computer or by phone) instead they are saved as JPEGs, or even PDFs which I can't edit.
I'm a graphic designer and web developer and have always had a real note book (paper) with me for such occasions and the Note has always appealed massively for being able to digitize and share my notes stuff on the fly.
I don't really care if it's S Note, or another app (I like Notes Mobile too) and would even be prepared to leave Evernote it gave me the sync and share options that I need.
My question is this: Has anybody found a workaround, or combo of apps that means their notes can be shared and edited (text anyway) by others on desktop and/or mobile?
OK, I thought SNote save as PDF and share with Evernote might work but it doesn't. A couple of apps will save as PSD which is kind of good but I haven't tried that out yet.
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Have not worked with Evernote much but have found some programs (the best being simplenote) which claim they can import an Evernote file and use embedded OCR to convert the file to text based:
http://simplenote.com/downloads/
Hope this helps!