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Force Roam to Verzion?

I love my Epic. Just switched from Verizon and have found I roam a lot on verizon. Which is fine, but when I'm home it's half a bar or sometimes no bars at all but still sprint. Time without a signal right now is 97%. This is draining my battery and causing me to drop calls. Is there a setting to prefer use of strongest tower regardless if it's roaming? If I roam to Verizon it's Full bars.
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See if you can get an airwave.

why would you switch to verizon when it has no 4g?

@rawsoup. So 4G does exsist?? Not available here. I was curious if there was an app to use strongest tower regardless if it's roaming. Wherever I go it's always half a bar with sprint. So calls will connect but then they drop. I guess I'll just get an airwave for my house, work and the grocery store.
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toddman said:
@rawsoup. So 4G does exsist?? Not available here. I was curious if there was an app to use strongest tower regardless if it's roaming. Wherever I go it's always half a bar with sprint. So calls will connect but then they drop. I guess I'll just get an airwave for my house, work and the grocery store.
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hmmm. thats funny what area (not specific address, i'm not a stalker) do you live in?

I have to agree with OP on this...the ability to flop over to roaming would be awesome. It's amazing..this same post has shown up for a ton of different phones throughout the years and the first response is always "why?".
I live in Queens in a basement apartment, 15 minutes from Manhattan. If I go outside my building, I get 2-4 bars service. Depending on where I leave my phone in my house, I get 0-1 bars, 1 if I'm really, really lucky and have been a good boy all year.
Currently, without paying stupid amounts of money for an airave (I don't even make that many phone calls, just need to be available for work), I have to turn the phone radio off, load up sipdroid to use with my gizmo5 account, and rely on google voice completely. I don't get texts, but since I have GV I get those texts and that suffices for now...but it's a lot of work to simply be able to be reached.
Verizon has 5 bars in my apartment. I shouldn't have to pay sprint whatever ridiculous amount they're asking for the airave hardware and the service when sprint already has roaming deals with verizon, and I pay for these roaming contracts in my monthly plan. I should be able to switch over to roam in my house for the off chance that I do get a phone call, and so that my battery isn't drained completely by two hours of trying to aquire sprint's signal.
The Palm Pre had a roam only hack, and it was beautifly done. Can someone get the ball rolling for an android app? I know there have been three billion posts in relation to this feature on android...but it would be really, really helpful.

I agree but airwaves hve been mostly free for people calling in needing help with ****ty service inside. Especially if you can be nice but still be fcirm with pleading your case.
Now sometmes new accounts need to wait 90 days for new free hardware to establish payment history and if you don't pay your bill or in general are a pain in the balls don't expect them to help you.
However many people get them without the monthly fee and free hardware.

Looks like roam control from the market will work on Samsung phones nextweek
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Sweet, just what I'm looking for. Thanks!
I guess if I root my phone, sprint won't let me return it with their 30day worry free program. I guess I'll just have to just trust it works. (unless there's a unroot option)

bblanski said:
Looks like roam control from the market will work on Samsung phones nextweek
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Where did you see that update at?

Wait wait. I'm lost. Roaming on VZ network is free on Sprint?

fazooley said:
I have the solution for all android phones. PM me for details!
fazooley
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This loser stole my app from the market and is trying to sell it. No one wants you here. Plus, quit spreading bad information, it doesn't work for *all* android phones...take the Droid X for example.

Wow. You people need to stop wondering why and just answer the question. Clearly OP doesnt have any type of good signal.
I live in the bronx in a basement apartment and i get 2 bars if im lucky. But its always switching between sprint and verizon killing my battery, lagging my phone and dropping my calls. F the airwave. I had force roaming with CM6 on my hero and would use it when im home and get full bars with no interuption and then switch to sprint when i step outside my door where i get full bars.
But anyways, nah i dont think the epic has force roaming yet...when someone ports CM6 over it should have it.
You can go into settings/wireless & networks/ mobile connection and set it to home only and it should be able to hold onto that 1 sprint bar you have and it wouldnt constantly switch to vzw and back, killing your phone.
It sucks. I remember i would hope i started roaming before i got the option for force roamong lol
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And yeah roaming is free and unlimited on verizon. But apparently theres a data cap of 300mb on 3g and unlimited 4g roaming (which is bs cuz sprint is the only one using WiMax) with the 4g phones....but im not entirely sure...
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Just so people know, there is an app in the market called "Roam Control" that allows you to force roaming on your Epic. Disclaimer: I am the developer.
Otherwise, with HTC phones, you can run CM6 which has the roaming option built in.
The joker above (fazooley) pirated my app and is trying to sell it to people for $1. I think you're better off ignoring him.

yes it does but requires root dang

churro7 said:
yes it does but requires root dang
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Yeah, sorry man. Not into the rooting thing?

well of course i am but i want to root froyo instead

Thanks guys for your help. I figured out the Forcing Roam issue by just switching back to Verizon. Problem Solved

toddman said:
Thanks guys for your help. I figured out the Forcing Roam issue by just switching back to Verizon. Problem Solved
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Lol
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Verizon to share their network....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...works-for-mobile-data-traffic.html?cmpid=yhoo
Sounds like the PRL update is just the beginning.
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This is only roaming n doesn't say they have to remain cheap
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The link states mobile internet must be shared. So in turn it must be 3G/4G roaming, as 2G is hardly considered mobile internet.

Overstew said:
The link states mobile internet must be shared. So in turn it must be 3G/4G roaming, as 2G is hardly considered mobile internet.
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Yeah, right. Something about pigs flying?

I live in a medium size city and going outside of it you loose data signal. US Cellular always picks the signal. I hope the ruling means they have to share 4G signal which is coverage by 3 carriers already here and Sprint does not.

Overstew said:
The link states mobile internet must be shared. So in turn it must be 3G/4G roaming, as 2G is hardly considered mobile internet.
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Nothing in that article states that it's going to be 3G.
"Mobile Internet" is so vague that it could be as basic as feature phone web access. You may not think "mobile internet" can be 2G but it most certainly is.

It does state "voice roaming", then "internet roaming". I'm absolutely sure you would have a hard time surfing the web with 2G signal. Haha

nerdtaco said:
That's nice. If you don't like my sig, then ignore it.
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It's not about ignoring it. It's about you having respect for those who use the forum and DON'T NEED SOME NEWBS SIG TAKING UP A PAGE WORTH OF POSTS. Just fix it, you're in the wrong, you know it, so stop pretending you're 12 and just fix it.

Verizon is pissed cuz they spent all of their money investing in their infrastructure and all of these other companies get to use it for fractions of the cost. Talk and data......... fine with me I hope the gasoline market turns out like this somehow.....
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NoSoMo said:
It's not about ignoring it. It's about you having respect for those who use the forum and DON'T NEED SOME NEWBS SIG TAKING UP A PAGE WORTH OF POSTS. Just fix it, you're in the wrong, you know it, so stop pretending you're 12 and just fix it.
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He's been a member here longer than you....just pointing that out, since you called him a "newb".
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in this case it should have been n00b. a whole diffrent take on the same word.

Overstew said:
The link states mobile internet must be shared. So in turn it must be 3G/4G roaming, as 2G is hardly considered mobile internet.
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Nothing states that Sprint has to give you 3G access to it though. Just look at the PRL now...most VZW access is 2G only when Sprint could make it 3g.
Sprint keeps it at 2G so you can still pull data for a few things but don't eat much watching streaming video all day.

Overstew said:
It does state "voice roaming", then "internet roaming". I'm absolutely sure you would have a hard time surfing the web with 2G signal. Haha
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2G is data. It's just slow. "Hard time surfing" only in the sense that it'd be tedious...not impossible.
I can force roam right now and pull sufficient speeds for Google Navigation and browsing of non-graphics heavy websites.

Thread cleaned. If you want this to stay on topic, keep it about the OP's topic, not about a user's signature.

Sprint isn't affected by this. They already have a deal with Verizon. This only affects the smaller companies such as Metro PCS, which use the exact frequencies and infrastructure as Verizon

It says 3g roaming here in fresno can but guess pro isn't set for it
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Whosdaman said:
Sprint isn't affected by this. They already have a deal with Verizon. This only affects the smaller companies such as Metro PCS, which use the exact frequencies and infrastructure as Verizon
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I haven't read the total ruling...but I bet it has nothing to do with frequencies and network protocol. It is up to the other company to provide a handset that has radios to communicate with the roaming partner. Kinda like how the Epic will not roam on Cricket and Metro PCS AWS areas.

Verizon has been sharing their network......Just about every time you roam it's either VZ or Altel which is owned by VZ as well.
Try modding post 4, which has jack schit to do with this thread, not to mention the intentional ""look at me i'm not only a post whore, but I just got my 3rd cell phone so you should see them all....and yes I have mommy's permission to post since I'm only 12"

digiblur said:
I haven't read the total ruling...but I bet it has nothing to do with frequencies and network protocol. It is up to the other company to provide a handset that has radios to communicate with the roaming partner. Kinda like how the Epic will not roam on Cricket and Metro PCS AWS areas.
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No, it's about allowing smaller companies the ability to roam on their network for cheap prices. That's it

Roam control.. But my EVO will not roam!

I bought Roam Control for a while but ultimately I need to roam at my office. I got no sprint signal inside the building. Before I got EVO I had a moto q9c and it roamed on verizon just fine with about 4 bars. My work cell phone is also verizon and I got the signal in my office but it is 1x signal.
Anyway, with roam control. I forced my EVO to roam but it will not connect to anything. Always says no signal..........
The problem is not that roam control does not work. It works when I am not in my office but I am not sure if it is roaming with verizon or US cellular. I might not have USC signal in my office but for sure I got verizon signal.
Thoughts???
Thanks!

Verizon roaming with RC works on my EVO... might want to reach out to the developer (https://sites.google.com/site/roamcontrol/faq... last entry on the FAQ). He's very helpful / responsive, I worked with him on creating the Locale/Tasker integration.

have you updated your prl?

darisma said:
The problem is not that roam control does not work. It works when I am not in my office but I am not sure if it is roaming with verizon or US cellular.
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I was about to pull the trigger on buying it. But the latest review said it had been updated to force a license check upon use. So if your Sprint signal is weak enough that it can't complete the license check, the app will not run. You're put in the catch-22 of wanting to roam because you don't have a usable signal, but the app that will let you roam won't run unless you first have a usable signal. I'm not buying it until either this is verified as false, or removed.
LOL - I just checked it in the market and he's updated the licensing so it only checks for a license the first time you run the app. Update the app and give it another shot.

I have updated my PRL. I also updated the App. No hope here

roam control wont work
I installed roam control on my evo 4g running vaelpek as my ROM. No matter what I do it wont force roam. It's version 1.5. Anybody else running this set up get it to work? My buddy has a Samsung Epic running cyanogen and it worked right away.

stevejcon said:
I installed roam control on my evo 4g running vaelpek as my ROM. No matter what I do it wont force roam. It's version 1.5. Anybody else running this set up get it to work? My buddy has a Samsung Epic running cyanogen and it worked right away.
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try a different rom

Does the Rom control work for rooted stock EVO
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i have it works great only thing kept me on sprint lol ok vzm but i have a scenes rom and plr is 00120 the new one you dont need phone rooted but need to buy it or it wont work i tryed a free one i know that cm6-cm7 it didnt work for me but cm? has a build in one that worked make sure you tell app what phone you have

From my research, Roam Control doesn't work for HTC EVO for a few versions already.

Cares said:
From my research, Roam Control doesn't work for HTC EVO for a few versions already.
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Incorrect....I have Roam Control, and I use it 4 days a week when I'm at school because the Sprint coverage on my campus is abysmal to say the very least. It works great.

Then something is either wrong with my phone or ROM. I can't get it to change to home only or roaming. I can easily check since i have evo deck.

pardon me . just trying to get to 10 posts so i can post in the developments

geovanyglaude1 said:
pardon me . just trying to get to 10 posts so i can post in the developments
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You couldn't find anything relevant to post about in any thread, so you just threw some spam up across the board?? Classy.....

Evo4gLI said:
You couldn't find anything relevant to post about in any thread, so you just threw some spam up across the board?? Classy.....
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that's 3 or 4 of those I've seen from that saw person I believe they did it for all 10 a boot and ban should be served nice and cold to that fool who can't follow rules. Idk what they plan on posting in dev if they can't post anything useful in general/q&a =¦ sorry but I had to. call that douche on his/her doucheness

If I am wrong, please correct me, but Verizon and Sprint are totally different bands. So Roam Control cannot roam on a network you dont have a radio for.
I roam on US Cellular in my area. Same band.
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eggsack said:
If I am wrong, please correct me, but Verizon and Sprint are totally different bands. So Roam Control cannot roam on a network you dont have a radio for.
I roam on US Cellular in my area. Same band.
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Sprint and Verizon are both cdma but VZW uses lte for 4g and Sprint uses wimax so u can roam on 1x and 3g thru VZW from Sprint and vice versa but not 4g

Cares said:
From my research, Roam Control doesn't work for HTC EVO for a few versions already.
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The market version works...

Now an unpleasant surprise from Sprint

EDIT: Signal improvement went away... see followup post below.
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Meant to post about this two days ago, and got busy.
I've been one of those with near zero signal in my home neighborhood. I live in Scotts Valley, near Santa Cruz CA. Since I got my Epic last October, I have been extremely frustrated that I get 0/1 bars at home, the signal is too weak to be usable for phone calls (constant digital dropouts -- conversation is impossible), and of course pathetic data rates when I can actually get a connection, which ALSO is never reliable.
When I bought the phone, a tower within sight of my home on another ridge was scheduled to get a Sprint site before the end of the year (2010), according to their website map. Then, this upgrade disappeared. I called, and no one knew anything, of course.
I've been roaming on VZW, who have a 4/5 bar signal here, via Roam Control ever since I got the phone. Fine for calls and text, no data worth speaking about.
Woke up two days ago, and was at first mystified, then thrilled to see 5 solid bars on Sprint!!!! 3G data rates consistently 1100/750 down/up!!!
Apparently, they finally got around to upgrading their coverage in the area. 'bout time
4G? Don't even go there. Not yet, not expecting it... Ever.

Wow my 3g speeds are 200 down max and I have no 4g
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In a way, I have Sprint's poor coverage in my hood to thank for me needing to root and get acquainted with XDA. Otherwise no Roam Control. But it would rock to get a similar upgrade around here. Zoning and landscape just make it really unlikely. If I go just half a mile north or west it's totally different, with 4G and all. Hell, I can watch Netflix over 4G at my office, just not where I stay. I hope your story is repeated far and wide.

I've had the same experience as you. I've been with sprint for 11 years now and my signal is now amazing at the house. 2600 kbps dl, 550 ul. On average, of course. They upgraded the tower nsar my house last year.
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My rwception got worse so to u took my tower I want it back
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Network Vision...

Whosdaman said:
Network Vision...
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So this network vision thingy. Do they have a timeline on what cities get it first? Or am I just a needy young man? ahah

Congrats. Anybody else?

UPDATE: After some joy, Sprint decided to turn off whatever they did. Back to 0/1 bars here at home, inability to use voice without constant dropouts, no data to speak of...
Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Someone with a car airave spent the nite? Lol...
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I live in Missouri (right next to sprint hq), and my service is never steady, usually shabby. But with the new EG22plus modem I get 4 bars constant. U might want to look into updating/rollbacking ur prl and/modem?
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dwallersv said:
Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...

double-post - ignore

cresny said:
Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...
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that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint

Wizard Knight said:
that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint
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That describes me. At home forced roaming so I can actually make and receive calls, data over wifi.
With the RC tasker plugin, phone automatically switches between forced roaming when in range of my home network, then back to "automatic" when out of range.
It's a workable solution, but not something I should have to do.
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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.

Would that not be a Pleasant surprise instead of unpleasant? My signal seems to have gotten better lately as well

tazfanatic said:
You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.
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Yep. The only reason I'm still with them is because of the free Airrave. Without it, signal in my home was unacceptable.
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This may be a bit off topic, but I roam ALLLLL day when I'm at work, it gets me quite angry, and I continue to use data and phone while I "roam" , and saw a charge for roaming one time but called sprint and asked them how the **** I am roaming within my coverage area. They fed me some BS but took the charge away. I've never seen a charge for roaming since. Do you guys get charges?

So far as I know, with my family 2 phone everything plan, roaming is included.
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I just looked, it doesnt say roaming anywhere, but when looking at changing my services, the only roaming option given is Canada Roaming.
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Found it.
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Letter of warning from sprint concerning roaming.

Gosh, got a letter of warning from sprint yesterday. For a couple of months I'd been using the .00001 hack to use Verizon's network. A couple if weeks ago I switched to a normal prl.
They sent me a letter explaing that if ididnt trim back my data roaming, they would shut off my phone. Having done a cost comparison, I can't afford to switch companies. I'm on a sprint employees plan that was linked to sero. Plus the other folks don't allow unlimited data anymore.
Just wanted to give a caution to those of us using the prl hack, they are watching. Thankfully I'd made the switch before I even got the letter and now have roaming blocked with cyanomod v7
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You are lucky that you only received a warning. There are plenty of reports here from people that were not given a choice to terminate service with Sprint. They most defiantly keep a lookout for excessive roaming.

I wonder if it matters on location or how you use their data. I used to do a lot of roaming and never got a letter like that.
Also do you mind linking me to the roam/prl hack?
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I actually asked a Sprint rep if i could force my phone to roam permanently on Verizon and what the repercussions were. She asked me kinda stunned, why would you want to do that? I told her so i could get the data speeds that sprint can't provide. She told me that they would catch it immediately because many, many people are doing that.

SilverStone641 said:
I actually asked a Sprint rep if i could force my phone to roam permanently on Verizon and what the repercussions were. She asked me kinda stunned, why would you want to do that? I told her so i could get the data speeds that sprint can't provide. She told me that they would catch it immediately because many, many people are doing that.
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Funny answer
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If I were to do this, would this be a way to opt out of sprints contract?

hoshmosh said:
If I were to do this, would this be a way to opt out of sprints contract?
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basically... yes

I got one of those letters after three months of roaming. We're both lucky they didn't can us lol.
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Baby_Phil said:
I got one of those letters after three months of roaming. We're both lucky they didn't can us lol.
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Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it

playya said:
Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.

playya said:
Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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I've been using the 0001 PRL and my speeds have improved a decent bit. I seem to be able to buffer Netflix and play an online game like Galcon with less noticeable lag.
The sad thing is, right when I got the EVO 4G, within the first few months, Sprint's 3G speeds easily beat Verizon's. Verizon's speeds are good, but not great, but Sprint's network has been so congested that it merely offers mediocre speeds for me now.
I also don't get voice signal with Sprint at my new place, whereas the Verizon prl gives me signal.
I'll just switch back to a Sprint PRL as soon as I get a warning letter.

I switched back because I didn't see a noticeable speed difference in my area.
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Well Sprint gonna release EVDO REV B which will give us EVO users 5mb down and 1mb up on 3G but for the EVO 3D user and epic 4G touch will get 14mb down and 10mb up on 3G
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sitlet said:
I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
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+1
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How do I change my prl to that Verizon one?
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pfcland said:
Well Sprint gonna release EVDO REV B which will give us EVO users 5mb down and 1mb up on 3G but for the EVO 3D user and epic 4G touch will get 14mb down and 10mb up on 3G
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Whens that going to happen & when they release it do we have to update PRL, how does that work?

sitlet said:
I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
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Yep same here. I have a constantly open ticket at Sprint for their poor data. I told them this when asking if i could roam permanently. I told them that roaming on any other network was faster then Sprint.

Where is the link for changing the PRL to .0001

Verizon PRL hack link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073
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for the people that got the warnings, how much roaming data did you use for the past few months? What is considered excessive?