I got all excited when the Galaxy Tab was introduced to the world! When it was first revealed it was a tablet/phone hybrid. Totally awesome it was, until it reached the US. Then the ability of making phone calls was taken away from it.
I went into Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T to find out "WHY?"..
A few tech individuals spoke with me regarding why the phone capability was stripped from the GTab, it wasn't economically smart to combine two uniquely different devices into one.
The US is BOUND by only four call phone carriers! There REALLY is no competition, it's almost like they have monopolized the market. All of them (except for Sprint) throttles their plans, and charges for every little thing you can imagine.
Why would a US mobile carrier loose money any combine two devices into one. The GTab to operate on their network, you would need a special data plan just for the GTab, which is different from your phone's plan.
Unless the Galaxy Note is released at a third party store like Best Buy or someplace like it, I don't see any of the US carriers taking the GNote under their wings.
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-headed-to-usa-on-att-says-fcc-30184411/
You'll find out down the road if that ends up being true.
You could always buy an international like others have done already.
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-headed-to-usa-on-att-says-fcc-30184411/
You'll find out down the road if that ends up being true.
You could always buy an international like others have done already.
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The only problem with that (buying it straight up) is the cost. Many of us can't afford $500 or more for a phablet, no matter how wonderful we think it is. I think AT&T will bring it out sooner or later. I can wait.
I was at an AT&T store yesterday. I was showing the reps my note. I couldn't get my note back because they all wanted to play with it! The Samsung Rep was there, she said it was definetely coming to the U.S. but wouldn't say anything else. Not when or which one, LTE or HSPA+.
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I was at an AT&T store yesterday. I was showing the reps my note. I couldn't get my note back because they all wanted to play with it! The Samsung Rep was there, she said it was definetely coming to the U.S. but wouldn't say anything else. Not when or which one, LTE or HSPA+.
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I don't take any serious any info from an AT&T store
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Actually. it was the Samsung Rep that said that it was coming to the U.S. She was very tight lipped on everything else. Wouldn't say with who, when, or if it was an LTE or just HSPA+ model.
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Amen to that, 95% of the time we on XDA know way more than them about their own products.
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Actually. it was the Samsung Rep that said that it was coming to the U.S. She was very tight lipped on everything else. Wouldn't say with who, when, or if it was an LTE or just HSPA+ model.
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Well, at least we know that the coming ATT version is not going to be LTE.
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The only problem with that (buying it straight up) is the cost. Many of us can't afford $500 or more for a phablet, no matter how wonderful we think it is. I think AT&T will bring it out sooner or later. I can wait.
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I totally understand & I pray it doesn't take as long as the SGS2 did to get to USA officially.
well I bought mine internationally for $740 and I'll be saving 1040 in data plan costs over the next 24 months, essentially I made $300 off my import as I see it. I break even at 17 months
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well I bought mine internationally for $740 and I'll be saving 1040 in data plan costs over the next 24 months, essentially I made $300 off my import as I see it. I break even at 17 months
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how does that math work?
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well I bought mine internationally for $740 and I'll be saving 1040 in data plan costs over the next 24 months, essentially I made $300 off my import as I see it. I break even at 17 months
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Ya, my work pays for my service but I keep buying a new phone every 7 or so months so I never come out ahead. These gadgets are addicting.
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how does that math work?
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$10/month unlimited data on an import phone instead of having to pay 45/mo for att's 4gb data plan...
$50 plan
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$10/month unlimited data on an import phone instead of having to pay 45/mo for att's 4gb data plan...
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I plan on checking out this $50 unlimited prepaid plan at&t has. that way I get voice and 4g on my Note.
I don't want to leave t-mobile and join att over a phone... but that GNote is awesome! I would have to think about switching carriers.
This might be the future of smart phones. The consolidation of tablet to phone.
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I don't want to leave t-mobile and join att over a phone... but that GNote is awesome! I would have to think about switching carriers.
This might be the future of smart phones. The consolidation of tablet to phone.
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I don't want to leave either but that prepaid from at&t is looking good right about now.
I have 2 phones on t-mobile, both on the $30 a month unlim web, 700 min talk
and my bill is $200 a month some times $250 if overages.
And now I see they have a new $49.99 unlim everything plan.
So for the 2 years they got me for $4800+. It's time for a change.
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Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
Here is what the low down is now for Verizon and AT&T now... ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/atandt-tweaking-messaging-plans-killing-some-upgrade-discounts-r/ )
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Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
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I will be starting my own cell phone company. Towers are in the process of being built as we speak!
Maybe you should include in the OP what all the srazy chit we have to look forward to in the future.
Ill use one of those big funky satellite phones that osama bin ladin uses.
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I will be starting my own cell phone company. Towers are in the process of being built as we speak!
Maybe you should include in the OP what all the srazy chit we have to look forward to in the future.
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In the OP I linked the verizon/at&t ish
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Ill use one of those big funky satellite phones that osama bin ladin uses.
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lolwut haha
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Being that Verizon and AT&T are doing crazy ish too now ( via engadget ) Where are you guys going to go? Which company, plan etc? And is there any 100% concrete information on what is going to happen to us? Theres a bizillion threads on what "is" going to happen, but we dont know if any of that is ture.
Here is what the low down is now for Verizon and AT&T now... ( http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/atandt-tweaking-messaging-plans-killing-some-upgrade-discounts-r/ )
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Hm well what are my options:
Big Red: The iPhone (metaphor for popular, expensive and useless) of the mobile service provider industry is actually getting an iPhone (the popular, expensive and useless phone from wence the metaphor came). They're still big, popular, expensive and useless. Can't go there, next...
AT&T: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, omg *wipes tears from eyes*, haha yea right...next.
T-Mobile: Is the down syndrome-stricken child of the service provider world. They have okay phones, okay service but I haven't talked to a customer service rep yet who wasn't on their 2nd day of English-As-A-Second-Language classes yet and they have no resiliancy. I told one of them that they aren't American so they have no soul. She broke down and cried on the phone. For real, I was just angry, angry at their terrible, scripted, idiot customer service.
If I had to go anywhere it'd be back to T-Mobile, at least they have an unlimited text AND unlimited data plan that doesn't throttle you after 1 or 2GB of usage. I just need to make sure that I NEVER need customer service again. Prepare for your call to be routed to India.
The only way we are going to bring the ball back into the consumers court is we all stop signing contracts.
AT&T is going to be changing their texting plans effective Jan. 23rd. They are getting rid of $5 200 txt plan and $15 1500 txt plan. The only plans they are going to have is $10 1000 txt and $20 unlimited. It seems like all carriers are making changes at the same time.
I got rid of AT&T and won't be going back. I'll stick with Sprint.
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The only way we are going to bring the ball back into the consumers court is we all stop signing contracts.
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Then we will be paying full price for our phones..... Evo is an expensive phone.
I really want to drop the carriers and ise VOIP or something else. I'm on wifi nearly everywhere I go. Do I really give a crap if I don't get a text while driving? Not really. We'll see, though. If I can make it work, I'm done letting these bastards rob me. I usually pay full price for my phones anyway.
Oo yeah I forgot to mention that AT&T is going to discontinue activation of customer owned equipment at no contract. You won't be able to activate a phone that you own with no contract. They are basically going to force people to be on contracts.
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I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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Oh **** yeah very good idea.. using tmobiles VOIP... Interesting.
I luckily get a 25 or 27% discount thru sprint. I cannot remember which one it is. Gotta love job discounts.
I have been with Sprint for 10 years. I am ready to purchase a 4G device. It is between the Evo4g on Sprint & the myPhone 4G with T-Mobile. Based on the device, and reception/coverage area will dictate which carrier I go to. The price point is basically the same. About $10 per month more with Sprint.
T-Mobile is an unknown regarding coverage and Sprint is a known.
I had 2 lines on a Free & Clear, but to switch to a 4g, I would lose that plan, and I would have to drop the 2nd line as no plan available by Sprint for 2 lines is cost effective for me. Neither is one available from T-mobile.
After 10 years, I really have no allegiance to Sprint as Allegiance with any Company these days is non existent, for me anyway, and from them to me, and others for that fact.
BUT I have read that T-Mobile may be locking their devices regarding tethering, as they are charging $!4.99/mo as of now, and may lock the devices for free tethering. I don't tether often, but I would like the option to do so.
Sprint charges the $10 surcharge for the privilege.
Doesnt really matter to me, only thing im waiting to see is if Verizon is going to put a data cap on their LTE for their smartphones. If they dont im ghost.
Why brah? Sprint doesnt... Or are you chasing the new phones merely.
I'd assume this is because LTE is faster and from what I gather has a more promising future.. probably coverage expansion will be better, etc.
Wouldn't count on avoiding a cap though, and F if i'm going to pay what vzw wants for "unlimited" as compared to sprint.
Where I work and spend a huge chunk of my life these days, I get full 4G and use it to tether all my computers, more than fast enough for what I need, and I think staying with this contract will be smart over time. As long as all these companies continue their greedy practices, the value of the plan I'm on will continue to get better IMO.
When I'm month to month in a year and a half paying what I'm paying now for unlimited, I bet I won't want to switch. I'm not that concerned about getting a new phone.. I tend to hold onto my phones for a pretty long time anyway. With the dev support the EVO has (and considering it does everything I want & more anyway) I think I can get a lot of mileage out of my current situation. If I really decide I NEED a new phone somewhere down the line, I'll buy it outright and stick with what will be a cheap plan at that point
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Doesnt really matter to me, only thing im waiting to see is if Verizon is going to put a data cap on their LTE for their smartphones. If they dont im ghost.
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I'm probably jumping to Verizon so my wife can get an Iphone later in the year. We have three lines and one doesn't use data so that will make things actually cheaper for us because my wife has a discount through Verizon (I currently have one on SPrint)
The other thing that interests me is the Unlimited Data only plans through Tmobile. They are only 50 dollars a month and I'm wondering how good calls through Google Voice would be...if the quality isn't that bad I could just use that (since they now let you port your number to them)
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Google Voice doesn't do VOIP on phones. Right now all it does is re routes your calls through to your GV number. There are solutions that use third party VOIP services but they aren't super reliable.
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Guys i hate to say but I think these companies have us by the balls... I would think there has to be some kind of regulation implemented.
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Guys i hate to say but I think these companies have us by the balls... I would think there has to be some kind of regulation implemented.
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It's just a matter of more people using the network costs go up
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Just curious to see how many have pre ordered and if you are moving from an international to the ATT version.
I have not preordered, but I am interested in the ATT version due to prevalent LTE where I live. I will wait to see all of the reviews and user feedback before getting one. I will most likely keep my current GNote since it gets updates from DBT and HSPA+ and battery life are great. I have a skyrocket that I will sell if I get the LTE version.
I did see a list of the apps that will be loaded on the ATT version and it is nice to have a version without all the bloat!
What's the big deal about LTE? I live in Europe, and I just get HSPA+ so I can't comment about it, but do you guys really tether THAT much to require those kinds of speeds? :S Don't get me wrong, the faster the better, but I paid 535 euros for my unlocked device. I don't think I could shove out any more money for the same model with a different radio and minus a hardware button.
So ... do you tether THAT much? I have unlimited data and I have tethered all of 3 times and that's because ADSL was down for an hour. Lol. I'd imagine LTE on the actual phone doesn't make much of a difference while mobile browsing or emailing as they're such small packets.
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What's the big deal about LTE? I live in Europe, and I just get HSPA+ so I can't comment about it, but do you guys really tether THAT much to require those kinds of speeds? :S Don't get me wrong, the faster the better, but I paid 535 euros for my unlocked device. I don't think I could shove out any more money for the same model with a different radio and minus a hardware button.
So ... do you tether THAT much? I have unlimited data and I have tethered all of 3 times and that's because ADSL was down for an hour. Lol. I'd imagine LTE on the actual phone doesn't make much of a difference while mobile browsing or emailing as they're such small packets.
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I do not tether at all personally. I have a Verizon LTE myfi for my work laptop. LTE is quite prevalent hometown (Dallas- Fort Worth) and in my Homestate of Texas where most larger cites have it. I have an unlimited LTE plan and have a skyrocket. I love my International GNote and will keep this one and probably sell my skyrocket. LTE is quite fast (20-60 mbps) and if I am going to use the GNote as my full time phone, I want LTE. I video call with my children when traveling in Texas without having to rely on the hotel wifi or hooking up my work wifi. If I want to stream netflix I do it over wifi, since I do not want to hog the bandwidth.
Keep in mind this is my plan which is based on the LTE version here having stellar reviews. As far as the cost, I do not have many others hobbies since I have young kids and a wife lol! My wife is understanding of my phone & watch addictions. Besides, if she is really good, she may get my International GNote to try out!
There is a att note forum now. Go look there for all the preorders threads. There are plenty.
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I have unlimited on an international Note. It is very easy to hit 2 gigs on HSDPA. With ATT sending out texts to those who use as tether as little as 2 gigs, I'm not sure if the LTE model is for me. I'd hate to lock in a contract only to have ATT breathing down my neck if I actually use LTE. Surely flying past 2 gigs would be very easy at those speeds. No thanks.
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I have unlimited on an international Note. It is very easy to hit 2 gigs on HSDPA. With ATT sending out texts to those who use as tether as little as 2 gigs, I'm not sure if the LTE model is for me. I'd hate to lock in a contract only to have ATT breathing down my neck if I actually use LTE. Surely flying past 2 gigs would be very easy at those speeds. No thanks.
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2 gigs? In DFW, I think the LTE texts start at around 5 gigs. 2 gigs would suck. That is not hard to do at all on hspa+ Seems wifi is everywhere where I live. I do agree the gigs can fly by faster on LTE. I have considered the new 5 gig plan with tethering but 50 bucks...
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yes preordered att note.
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Just curious to see how many have pre ordered and if you are moving from an international to the ATT version.
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Oh helllllll no!!! LTE without unlimited access (and by unlimited, I mean truly unlimited; no throttling) is a joke! Forget about it! I'm not interested! Plus, supposedly I was throttled over my last billing period, and honestly, I didn't even notice it. Was still getting ~3mbit on HSPA+, which is plenty fine for most stuff anyway. Burned through about 6gigs of data last period. No tethering either.
Plus Exynos is a beast. Seriously...
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I do not tether at all personally. I have a Verizon LTE myfi for my work laptop. LTE is quite prevalent hometown (Dallas- Fort Worth) and in my Homestate of Texas where most larger cites have it. I have an unlimited LTE plan and have a skyrocket. I love my International GNote and will keep this one and probably sell my skyrocket. LTE is quite fast (20-60 mbps) and if I am going to use the GNote as my full time phone, I want LTE. I video call with my children when traveling in Texas without having to rely on the hotel wifi or hooking up my work wifi. If I want to stream netflix I do it over wifi, since I do not want to hog the bandwidth.
Keep in mind this is my plan which is based on the LTE version here having stellar reviews. As far as the cost, I do not have many others hobbies since I have young kids and a wife lol! My wife is understanding of my phone & watch addictions. Besides, if she is really good, she may get my International GNote to try out!
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Question: If you already have a VZW LTE hotspot, A) are you grandfathered into unlimited data with VZW? and B) why not just keep your international Note and use the hotspot for when you need the extra bandwidth?
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Oh helllllll no!!! LTE without unlimited access (and by unlimited, I mean truly unlimited; no throttling) is a joke! Forget about it! I'm not interested! Plus, supposedly I was throttled over my last billing period, and honestly, I didn't even notice it. Was still getting ~3mbit on HSPA+, which is plenty fine for most stuff anyway. Burned through about 6gigs of data last period. No tethering either.
Plus Exynos is a beast. Seriously...
Question: If you already have a VZW LTE hotspot, A) are you grandfathered into unlimited data with VZW? and B) why not just keep your international Note and use the hotspot for when you need the extra bandwidth?
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Exactly what I plan to do. I have two grandfathered unlimited lines on VZW. So I'm going to do the Straighttalk $45 no contract deal and just wifi my Note from my hotspot off my RAZR. Just trying to decide if I want to buy a white Note or black Note.
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Exactly what I plan to do. I have two grandfathered unlimited lines on VZW. So I'm going to do the Straighttalk $45 no contract deal and just wifi my Note from my hotspot off my RAZR. Just trying to decide if I want to buy a white Note or black Note.
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Sounds like a good plan to me! I would avoid the AT&T version though, seriously. AT&T are a bunch of d!ck$ when it comes to unlocking their devices, using them in ways they didn't intend, and oh yeah, they still put Carrier IQ on their stuff AFAIK, so the AT&T Note will likely have that too. Not to mention, the discounted price only applies for a renewed 2-year agreement anyway, so you're either locked into that for another 2 years, or you're stuck with an ETF. Either way, they're gonna recoup the cost one way or another. Being that as the case, you're really just better off importing another unlocked Note and going pay-as-you-go on that $45 plan from Straight Talk
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Oh helllllll no!!! LTE without unlimited access (and by unlimited, I mean truly unlimited; no throttling) is a joke! Forget about it! I'm not interested! Plus, supposedly I was throttled over my last billing period, and honestly, I didn't even notice it. Was still getting ~3mbit on HSPA+, which is plenty fine for most stuff anyway. Burned through about 6gigs of data last period. No tethering either.
Plus Exynos is a beast. Seriously...
Question: If you already have a VZW LTE hotspot, A) are you grandfathered into unlimited data with VZW? and B) why not just keep your international Note and use the hotspot for when you need the extra bandwidth?
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I always get a kick out of your posts! The Verizon Mifi is through a corporate account so I do not know if it is unlimited. I do plan to keep my International Note! I have a skyrocket as my primary phone (I swap SIM's every week or so) I love my GNote and figure I can sell the skyrocket and get the LTE GNote. I do not want to give up my International with all the aspects of having unlocked and updates. I also just love the LTE Network and figure I will love it more with a GNote!
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I always get a kick out of your posts!
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Why thank you good sir! I must admit that I do try being a bit edgy while remaining helpful, and of course telling it like it is!
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The Verizon Mifi is through a corporate account so I do not know if it is unlimited.
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Well, in that case, frankly you don't need to know! You're not paying the bill, so it's not your problem LOL!!! Consider it part of your "benefits package"
Yes, Ordered the Note Sunday at the AT&T store near me... White one on it's way, now I can retire my Dell Streak!
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Yes, Ordered the Note Sunday at the AT&T store near me... White one on it's way, now I can retire my Dell Streak!
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Same here preordered mine from Bestbuy. Will also retired my great Dell Streak.
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yes pre-ordered, will also retire my Dell Streak 5
*sigh* Perhaps this is an appropriate time to breathe life back into an old thread of mine explaining why you should always buy unlocked, and why buying subsidized devices hurts competition and consumer choice...
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*sigh* Perhaps this is an appropriate time to breathe life back into an old thread of mine explaining why you should always buy unlocked, and why buying subsidized devices hurts competition and consumer choice...
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Once people say this about buying unlocked "But remember, the carrier will recoup the cost of selling you a discounted device over the term of your service agreement, so you're gonna pay some way or another anyhow. " I stop reading because it makes no sense.
How does ATT recoup the cost of selling me a diiscounted device over the 2 years? I have a couple options...
A) Buy a phone for $299, and then for the next 24 months pay for my Family Plan including 550 minutes, Unlimited Text and Unlimited Data for both lines, after corporate discount, I pay roughly $135/month, or $3240 for the plan + $299 for the phone, a total of $3539
B) Buy an unlocked phone for $699, and then for the next 24 months STILL pay for my Family Plan including 550 minutes, Unlimited Text and Unlimited Data for both lines, plan totalling $3240 over the 2 years, and the phone being $699, so a total of $3939
In the end, who paid $400 MORE over the course of two years? You did. You said it yourself, especially in the US, what am I supposed to do, switch to T-Mobile and deal with a) crappy service in my area and b) different radio frequencies potentially limiting my data speeds? Goto a regional carrier with again, crappy service in my area?
When you say it's ALWAYS better to buy unlocked, you're plain wrong. As much as you don't want to hear it, you bought your 7.7 Tab from AT&T, and agreed to the Terms of User when you signed the contract, if you didn't think it was fair at the time, you shouldn't have entered the contract, simple as that. It may work out for you to buy International, but you can't make that blanket statement for everyone.
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Once people say this about buying unlocked "But remember, the carrier will recoup the cost of selling you a discounted device over the term of your service agreement, so you're gonna pay some way or another anyhow. " I stop reading because it makes no sense.
How does ATT recoup the cost of selling me a diiscounted device over the 2 years? I have a couple options...
A) Buy a phone for $299, and then for the next 24 months pay for my Family Plan including 550 minutes, Unlimited Text and Unlimited Data for both lines, after corporate discount, I pay roughly $135/month, or $3240 for the plan + $299 for the phone, a total of $3539
B) Buy an unlocked phone for $699, and then for the next 24 months STILL pay for my Family Plan including 550 minutes, Unlimited Text and Unlimited Data for both lines, plan totalling $3240 over the 2 years, and the phone being $699, so a total of $3939
In the end, who paid $400 MORE over the course of two years? You did. You said it yourself, especially in the US, what am I supposed to do, switch to T-Mobile and deal with a) crappy service in my area and b) different radio frequencies potentially limiting my data speeds? Goto a regional carrier with again, crappy service in my area?
When you say it's ALWAYS better to buy unlocked, you're plain wrong. As much as you don't want to hear it, you bought your 7.7 Tab from AT&T, and agreed to the Terms of User when you signed the contract, if you didn't think it was fair at the time, you shouldn't have entered the contract, simple as that. It may work out for you to buy International, but you can't make that blanket statement for everyone.
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Or you can spend $50/month for unlimited everything on a pay-as-you-go plan and save yourself $2040 over the course of 2 years for one device. If your family plan has two lines on it (judging by your monthly cost), and say you bought two unlocked Note's, (So, $100/month x 24 months = $2400 + 2 Note's @ $700 each, brings you up to a total of $3800 over 2 years) you're still saving about $140, plus you're getting all the added benefits of owning an unlocked device, as described in my article. Also, this assumes you never sell your Note when you get tired of it and want to upgrade. You can further reduce the long-term cost by selling your device when you want to move on. Nearly two years after I got my old Galaxy S, I was still able to sell it for about $300 and some change.
I preordered Sunday afternoon.
It's incredible, phone Hasn't even been released yet and it's already doing great to say the least.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-sees-9-million-pre-orders
Samsung just owns all, literally. Hoping they grow bigger and bigger ^_^
And now it's so much fun to look at Sammy hater's faces who told that it's going to be a fail of the year
That's pretty good! If the U.S. variants were doing preorders. That number would double easily.
that's amazing. 9 million. wow, just wow.
that in itself is proof that SGS3 is an amazing device.
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that's amazing. 9 million. wow, just wow.
that in itself is proof that SGS3 is an amazing device.
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Just the curiosity of the device . Let's wait untill the phone released.
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I would have pre ordered but no carriers are selling handsets only. I have to get one from a carrier like Three because if you get a faulty one (always seem to get one) then they send you a new one at the same time of picking up the old one. There is nothing worse than having to send your phone back and waiting for them to test it and it ends up taking weeks to get a new one.
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I would have pre ordered but no carriers are selling handsets only. I have to get one from a carrier like Three because if you get a faulty one (always seem to get one) then they send you a new one at the same time of picking up the old one. There is nothing worse than having to send your phone back and waiting for them to test it and it ends up taking weeks to get a new one.
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meeh, i dont mind waiting, but some of us have more than 1 spare phone available. others dont. so in that case, i'm right there with ya.
but on the other hand, $10 AT&T medianet is a no-brainer for me.. I'll buy an iPhone or an AT&T HOX on AT&T upgrade/contract for $199 and sell it on XDA MP or Craigslist for $600. That's $400 profit. International SGS3 is $700, less the $400 for the sold AT&T HOX. That's $300 out of pocket for an international SGS3.
Then take AT&T's 3gb data plan of $30 per month, multiply that by 24 and I get $720. VERSUS AT&T's medianet unlimited data plan for $10 per month, multiply by 24 and I get $240.
$720 minus $240 is $480. Take $480 and apply that towards the $300 you have left on the SGS3 after i've sold my AT&T HOX. I'm still out on top $180 (unless i did my math wrong, which im prone to do often lol)
This is my rational for getting an international SGS3.
I don't think LTE is even worth it atm as the speeds people are reporting aren't any faster than what I get over here on Three (UK network) using HSPA+ and not to mention it wont have as good coverage. Besides with a 3GB limit you have, what is the point in LTE? You'd get through it within an hour, here Three gives unlimited data and free tethering and that is much more important to me.
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I don't think LTE is even worth it atm as the speeds people are reporting aren't any faster than what I get over here on Three (UK network) using HSPA+ and not to mention it wont have as good coverage. Besides with a 3GB limit you have, what is the point in LTE? You'd get through it within an hour, here Three gives unlimited data and free tethering and that is much more important to me.
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yea, im fine with HSPA+ speeds. I'm running LTE on Verizon, so I don't care much for AT&T LTE.
I do know that AT&T LTE in my area is really crappy right now too.
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oh, btw, i just noticed there is 2 threads regarding the 9 million units preordered.
Does having an LTE phone mean it cannot work in countries without it?
Cheaper?
Is preordering cheaper? because there is no preordering in Hong Kong yet.
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Does having an LTE phone mean it cannot work in countries without it?
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no. it can, it just wont get LTE. it'll remain on 3G bands.
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Locky Loki said:
Is preordering cheaper? because there is no preordering in Hong Kong yet.
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barondebxl said:
It's incredible, phone Hasn't even been released yet and it's already doing great to say the least.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-sees-9-million-pre-orders
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i did pre-order
looking at the speed it seems s3 will break the record of s2 within very few days.
9 million sheep.
This phone will break records of sales, yes.
But I belive a considerable amount of those pre orders are the people that preordered in different stores, different models (White/blue, 32gb/64gb)
The real number should be a little lower.
Lucasm93 said:
This phone will break records of sales, yes.
But I belive a considerable amount of those pre orders are the people that preordered in different stores, different models (White/blue, 32gb/64gb)
The real number should be a little lower.
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but all of them comes under the name tag "S3" right?
Not 9 million pre orders but 9 million shipped to stores.
I'm not going to bother pre-ordering. Prices seems a little ridiculous to me.
But the more and more I think on wanting a 64GB device, I realize I don't need it with all the cloud storage I've got between Box, Dropbox, Google Drive, SugarSync, Skydrive PLUS I have all my music either on a 32GB microSD right now or accessible on google music.
I might just stick to a 16GB device. But $734 for one right now...seems kind of out there to me.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/uncarrier-8.htm
this should shake up the industry, big time!!!
Too bad it won't work for tethering on my 4G unlimited plan.
EVERYONE who is currently on a 3 gig phone data plan, or a one gig tablet data plan,gets 10 gigs of data free now, to start with....
wase4711 said:
EVERYONE gets 10 gigs of data free now, to start with....WOW!!!
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Not everyone.
Read the fine print...
Data Stash is included at no extra charge for every single new and existing T-Mobile customer – individual, family or business – on an eligible postpaid Simple Choice plan who buys extra high-speed data for their smartphone or tablet.
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Starting in January 2015, Data Stash will be automatically available at no extra charge to every T-Mobile customer – every individual, family and business – with a postpaid Simple Choice plan who has purchased additional 4G LTE data, 3GB or more for smartphones and 1 GB or more for tablets. And, you’ll start out with a Free Data Stash with up to 10 GB of 4G LTE data.
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rjohnstone said:
Not everyone.
Read the fine print...
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Prepaid customers get treated like second class citizens. When I went to go buy my note I was told it cost $769 with tax. I was like don't it retail for $749? They said that's post paid. Whatever. I asked if there were any promotional discount or rebates. The said there's a $50 rebate on accessories. So I asked if I bought a $40 case, I'd get $10 off my phone? Nope. Postpaid only.
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Prepaid customers get treated like second class citizens. When I went to go buy my note I was told it cost $769 with tax. I was like don't it retail for $749? They said that's post paid. Whatever. I asked if there were any promotional discount or rebates. The said there's a $50 rebate on accessories. So I asked if I bought a $40 case, I'd get $10 off my phone? Nope. Postpaid only.
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you know what, send a tweet to john legere, and let him know how you feel about that...these guys are changing so many of the BS things in the wireless industry, that they might consider that too..
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http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/uncarrier-8.htm
this should shake up the industry, big time!!!
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Unlimited data here but this is a great thing can only help people on Att sprint and veriz0n
He also did address the new wideband spectrum
Low and behold I finally got band 12 today. Let me tell you I was only getting 5mbp down. Now I'm getting 25 down in my bedroom. I live in Fort Lauderdale.
5 down is 2x what I'm getting. Alleged LTE. Bah! No, I don't live on a farm. I am in San Antonio, TX, a city of over 1.4 million people, and I still get data speeds that are so last century.
Glad I'm still on the unlimited data plan(Granfatherd)
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Glad I'm still on the unlimited data plan(Granfatherd)
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You know they have new plan that just came out. 2 linen completely unlimited for $100. I use to be on the old grandfathered in plan but now I'm saving 20 bucks.
Think they just bumped the speeds here in Springfield Ohio was getting 5 down 2 up now I'm getting 12-15 down 5 up constant
Prepaid customers get treated like second class citizens because prepaid plans aren't where the revenue is generated. If prepaid guys aren't ready to commit to the company, the company can't be committed to them. I'm on the $30 plan, I know this update doesn't affect me, I know this sucks, but it makes business sense.
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jonahtriangle said:
You know they have new plan that just came out. 2 linen completely unlimited for $100. I use to be on the old grandfathered in plan but now I'm saving 20 bucks.
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Be wary of any new plans that come out, on any carrier. Newer doesn't always mean better. In fact, most of the time, it means quiet the opposite.
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CheesyNutz said:
Think they just bumped the speeds here in Springfield Ohio was getting 5 down 2 up now I'm getting 12-15 down 5 up constant
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700 mhz wideband has kicked in all over. Here in Fort Lauderdale too.
I'm assuming tether data doesn't "stash" ... That sucks for unlimited users.
PhoneG3ek said:
I'm assuming tether data doesn't "stash" ... That sucks for unlimited users.
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***** ***** ***** ...
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you know what, send a tweet to john legere, and let him know how you feel about that...these guys are changing so many of the BS things in the wireless industry, that they might consider that too..
and, BTW, I just confirmed that most post paid plans, including the 4 lines for 100 bucks DO qualify for the "data stash"/10 gigs per line, per month plan!
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This is great to hear. Your saying even though I've never bought extra data like the fine print says, I'm still going to get the stash and 10gb of data?
And how exactly did you confirm this?
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Trev420 said:
This is great to hear. Your saying even though I've never bought extra data like the fine print says, I'm still going to get the stash and 10gb of data?
And how exactly did you confirm this?
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I called them 2 different times and both reps said the same thing..
Color me skeptical. The TMO website clearly states that you must have postpaid for at least 3 Gb of data to be eligible.
Ran across this interesting article. Does anyone know how this will affect GN4 users like me who bought a phone on the cheap from Best Buy?
http://www.androidcentral.com/it-wi...mericas-top-carriers-heres-what-you-need-know
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Ran across this interesting article. Does anyone know how this will affect GN4 users like me who bought a phone on the cheap from Best Buy?
http://www.androidcentral.com/it-wi...mericas-top-carriers-heres-what-you-need-know
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Looks promising. I'm not sure if the Note 4 has the frequencies for the other US carriers though. I'd have to look it up. I need to get off sprint since their service is dismal in my area. I'd love to put my wife's Note 4 on T-Mobile.
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Looks promising. I'm not sure if the Note 4 has the frequencies for the other US carriers though. I'd have to look it up. I need to get off sprint since their service is dismal in my area. I'd love to put my wife's Note 4 on T-Mobile.
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Get that. From what I have read it does have GSM capability... How much I don't know. What I am wondering is... Is my phone considered payed for as I paid $165 out the door at bestbuy....
They're not gonna unlock the Note 4. If I can find the link, there's a good post on Reddit. I think the guy works for Sprint Corporate and explained the process. But it's only going to be for devices "Launched" after 02/15.
Except for the damn iPhones, they're allowing the 5C, 5s, 6 and 6+ all to be unlocked after 02/19/2015. I'm going off the top of my head here, I read this while at work. So even if you purchase a device after Feb it doesn't matter, unless it was officially launched after that point.
The unlocks will be automatic and done OTA once you reach the criteria. You have to have the device fully paid off, or paid your ETF if on contract. Some other rules and such which I don't recall.
Went and found the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Sprint/comments/2ut91c/clarifying_ctia_and_sprints_unlock_policy/
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Get that. From what I have read it does have GSM capability... How much I don't know. What I am wondering is... Is my phone considered payed for as I paid $165 out the door at bestbuy....
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Sounds like you did an upgrade subsidy. Not sure how long before Sprint considers it yours. The subsidized price is based on signing the 2 year contract renewal.
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Sounds like you did an upgrade subsidy. Not sure how long before Sprint considers it yours. The subsidized price is based on signing the 2 year contract renewal.
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Yup... So like I said... I wonder when this phone will be considered mine/paid for... Well I could call Sprint and ask but if I talk to 3 different CS people I would probably get 3 different answers. Anyway, thanks for your input.
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Yup... So like I said... I wonder when this phone will be considered mine/paid for... Well I could call Sprint and ask but if I talk to 3 different CS people I would probably get 3 different answers. Anyway, thanks for your input.
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How true! And sad! In most articles regarding phone subsidies it appears it is included in the ETF.
Sprint will unlock your device for international use at any time, I switched to Sprint just this January, and 3 days later my phone was unlocked for international use. I did not buy it out right, my Note 4 has monthly payments still. You just gotta ask.
Now, they won't unlock it for domestic carriers until you pay it off though.
jhill110 said:
Yup... So like I said... I wonder when this phone will be considered mine/paid for... Well I could call Sprint and ask but if I talk to 3 different CS people I would probably get 3 different answers. Anyway, thanks for your input.
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Per the info I've read, a subsidized 2yr contract must be completed, OR the ETF paid off. This will complete the process and allow Domestic SIM Unlocking. The phone, or payment plan etc had to be fully paid off (ETF/completed contract). Then it will be done over the air automatically.
Again though, this device (Note 4) will not be eligible. It's only devices "Launched" after Feb 1, 2015. Except for the bastard iPhones. They will get DSU, from the 5c onward.
Correct, International is always a "freebie" when you request it but won't make a difference in the US. If you're not paid off on your contract or haven't paid the ETF is it applies to you they won't unlock it.
Just thought id share
http://www.modernreaders.com/fcc-now-requires-american-carriers-to-unlock-consumers-handsets/19740/lorenzo-tanos