Hi guys,,
I'm really happy today as I got rid of the newton rings from my tab's screen
The steps I took to fix the screen:
1- Hardly throw the tab on your bed and repeat it about ten times
2- as soon as your done from that you will notice that the newton rings had disappeared, run as fast to the fridge and place it there,, make sure you arrive to the fridge before having the newton rings showing up again
3- keep it for about 20 min
And here u go
Good Luck,,
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Contact Samsung they will fix it for free.
binaryhat said:
Contact Samsung they will fix it for free.
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Can I have the contact link
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Thx but no thx for the tips
btw,, the rings showed up again after few hours
Assuming you have the 16GB version:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/GT-P7510MAYXAB
Click the Live Chat Support link under Contact Us.
this doesnt sound very safe....
jager555 said:
this doesnt sound very safe....
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How do you know? I contacted Samsung support and they fixed my tablet which had newton's rings.
Not so difficult , I just took it to samsung service center and they changed the Display in one hour only, the new display has a different quality and no issues so far. (Indonesia-Jakarta)
But the problem is I got my Tab from amazon (US),, and I'm living in Bahrain,, does anyone know how much it will cost me to fix it ?
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But the problem is I got my Tab from amazon (US),, and I'm living in Bahrain,, does anyone know how much it will cost me to fix it ?
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I've got the same problem, my Tab comes from US Amazon and i live in Ireland.
I thought the procedure would be more like: 1. Open window. 2. Throw tab out window...
I found moving to a higher altitude and cooler climate made them go away, but when I came back home, the rings returned. So I sent it off for repair to Verizon.
Solution!
I caught the famous newton rings two days ago after 2 months of ownership - and paniced at once. I read about all the disappointed users and returns and repairs. And decided to do the same. Got a ticket from the berlin workshop, that officially repairs for samsung. But i like experimenting. So i followed some leads before sending in. Put it in the fridge, warm it up on the heating. Both had no effect. At first. Disappointed, I let it lie beside my keyboard and continued working. When i looked at the 10.1 after 40 minutes again, the stain, that measured 2,5 * 5,5 cm in the morning and rather grew bigger when trying to treat, was shrunk to 1*3 cm or so. I did not trust my eyes. After another 10 mins, it was only the size of a fingerprint. And then - the whole screen totally went back to completely normal on its own. No rubbing or pressing could change that development.
My conclusion, and i can not believe, that samsung has not published that quickly and clearely, is that it is a moisture-problem. The weather these days is moist and also, i worked with the tab in moist surrounding lately. The "healing" set in, when i had the tab heated up to ca. 30 - 40 degrees celsius and then let it rest for some time with no cover in a dry room at 20 degrees celsius.
Try it before complaining, if you can live with thecircumstances. I do not know, if the replacement-screens of samsung is different, new at all or only dried by samsung... i will not send in mine anymore.
I can confirm, that the healing by administer some heat is permanent and also by doing the fridge and the heating again after the healing, i could not provoke any stain again.
Good luck!
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Dude how many threads do you want to fill with the same rubbish ... And for your information. It isnt moisture, but display layers which overlap due to deformation caused by heat and pressing.. So heating or pressing does not help. Fridge or just waiting to cool off would have helped though.
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Well, just wanted to make sure, everyone that searches for can find the info.
It could be an expansion - recompression phaenomenon, but why is it that temporary and why doesn't it appear whenever the battery becomes hot.
There must be something like whater vapour or air pressure be involved too. Even if it is not moisture, that can be forced out,
Something is gone, after heating the whole tablet up and coolimg it down again slowly.
Coud be only tension, but i doubt it.
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It is air. And as I said. Heat influences the displaylayers, so they expand and touch each other at some point. Cooling them off resolves the problem. If you put heavy things on your display (ie. during transport inside a bag) this could increase the problem, as the layers get deformed.
Put a couple ice cubes into a plastic bag (or whatever container to prevent water from leaking) and place it on top of the ring. The temperature drop will cause the screen to contract and pull it out of contact.
Worked for me
What do you think about using suction effect with a sucker for glasses?
This maybe would work on newton ring to detach the glass layer from the other lcd-layer.
mysticpv said:
What do you think about using suction effect with a sucker for glasses?
This maybe would work on newton ring to detach the glass layer from the other lcd-layer.
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Not much: since the reason for the rings seems to lay behind the screen (swallen batterie?), when the suction goes, the pressure from behind reappears...
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Nokia7Vista said:
Hi guys,,
I'm really happy today as I got rid of the newton rings from my tab's screen
The steps I took to fix the screen:
1- Hardly throw the tab on your bed and repeat it about ten times
2- as soon as your done from that you will notice that the newton rings had disappeared, run as fast to the fridge and place it there,, make sure you arrive to the fridge before having the newton rings showing up again
3- keep it for about 20 min
And here u go
Good Luck,,
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WHAT? You have done this?
Dude, the reason the newton rings leave is because they are heat related. So you could do what your doing and break your tab in no time or you can just let it sit on the bed for a while and the same result with occur.
Use your head.
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Hey, guys. I know there are dozens of threads talking about that, but mine is quite specific. First, the toilet disaster highlights one-to-one:
- phone sitting by the sink, which is close to toilet
- stupid movement and there it was, Skype was on.
- took 3 seconds to ignore all the human dignity I'd had and took the SGS from the water
- removed a crappy silicone cover (this one saved me from a more serious accident) very fast and removed the battery as fast as
- towel, paper-towel, rags
- rice bowl
- youtube video showing disassembly instructions (pretty easy)
- contact cleaner
- rice bowl again
It worked perfectly 24 hours later! Screen on, sound ok... very easy device to open.
Everything was fine until I accidentally hit the voice search and the "sound level meter" didn't move.
Microphone is not working since then. Doesn't work for calls, video with sound, audio note... It works fine with the stock earphone though.
Yes, I restored to factory settings.
Yes, I reflashed and reinstalled the ROM.
When I BLOW (with my mouth) into the mic, nothing happens. But when I SUCK it, the michophone seems to "catch" all the noise. Is this a signal of hope?
I opened it again and sprayed a good contact cleaner, right into the mic. No changes.
ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED!!!
Phone was placed on the sink with "Skype on". Hmmmm
jbdroid said:
Phone was placed on the sink with "Skype on". Hmmmm
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Ayup...
Clearly the phone was deeply ashamed of what was going on and jumped into the open toilet to save your dignity.
You sucked on the Mic???
ew.
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Skype, bathroom, sucking and blowing the mic... woah...
Its very nasty
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Lol
I said "loser"...
Guys, rolling on the floor here, but any actual help?
Ahahahahahahahahah
Oh man grodiest i9000 thread ever.
Did you ever think about to replace the mic?? If ya say its easy to open the phone then you wont have problems to replace the mic I actually dont think its too expansive for ya. So actually its funny to read but I fell with ya. But you shouldnt use skype on the toilet my phone is waiting outside of the bath room, when I'm makin the big deal on the toilet xD
good luck dude
24 hours is way to short to remove water stuck between board and smd components. I think you fired it up to soon. Electronics dont repair themselves, once broken you need to replace parts to get things going again.
Only luck or a wallet can save you now im afraid.
Aww dude no way !!!.
I have had my fair share of phones falling into the loo, Luckily not with my SGS, but with my tocco and my spica.
My tocco survived after leaving it dry on the radiator for a day (on low low temperature)
My spica survived but needed a new screen. which was surprisingly cheap (not genuine part)
Just for my own amusement, Was it a number one or a number two you was doing at the time ?
Funny comments, But serious matter. Take their advice and leave it dry out a little more, You could of made it worse by powering it up. But lets not jump to conclusions just yet,
If drying it out for longer dont work. See if you can make a bit of cash by selling it for parts on ebay or similar.
Oh and is it on a contract ? if so do you have insurance ? or are you close to a renewal ?
Good luck, Hope you get a good outcome
azzledazzle said:
If drying it out for longer dont work. See if you can make a bit of cash by selling it for parts on ebay or similar.
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- I'll always look at parts from ebay suspiciously now.
RedBeardThePirate said:
- I'll always look at parts from ebay suspiciously now.
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Obviously you will have to mention the water damage.
But some people do buy broken / water damaged stuff.
Might not get a lot of money but it could be better than throwing it in the bin
My phone got drowned in the bottom of bag with a leaking water bottle, similar thing, phone worked but the mic wasn't 100% and the center button did not work at all. Purchased a replacement 3 button membrane they call it off ebay for $25 from UK. The mic is built onto this membrane. Funnily enough button started to work the day before it arrived but I will still replace the membrane just to know the mic is 100% as sometimes it comes across scratchy on the other end.
Hope all goes well for you.
dwyer125 said:
My phone got drowned in the bottom of bag with a leaking water bottle, similar thing, phone worked but the mic wasn't 100% and the center button did not work at all. Purchased a replacement 3 button membrane they call it off ebay for $25 from UK. The mic is built onto this membrane. Funnily enough button started to work the day before it arrived but I will still replace the membrane just to know the mic is 100% as sometimes it comes across scratchy on the other end.
Hope all goes well for you.
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+1
I bought the flex cable keypad wich comes with the microphone. Just 10$ from HongKong. However, 3 weeks to arrive.
u could try drying ur circuit board in an ultrasonic dryer... should remove all the water from it...
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Last time I flooded a phone (lake, beer, boat, he he), I used a food dehydrator. 24 hours in that gadget and all was well. Just last week my brother jumped into the water with his iPhone in the pocket. Same procedure and 24 hours later his phone lives.
Hello all,
First time I have done a post so firstly a hello to everyone. Secondly It is an update/ask for advice time from everyone.
I sent my Galaxy Tab 10.1 in for repair due to the newton rings problems and i have been checking it's progress online. Today a new status came up saying:
"Cancelled by ASC Non Defect (Working properly)"
When I called up customer services they explain that this could be due to two reasons:
1) They have deemed this as a default due to my use (apparently the more likely of the two)
2) For stats they have closed the case and are waiting for a part.
Has anyone had experience with these people and do they know any of their procedures? Also if they do say it was due to my misuse what are my options?
Sorry for the rant and new thread just need some advice asap.
Liam
I dont understand, why are they waiting for a part if the case is closed?
Worst case you can order a new unit, swap screens, and return it.
Remember $500-$600 for a tablet which costs $120 to make demands perfection.
Exactly that's what i said. The service rep was saying this could be a thing they do to make the statistics of cased open and closed better. However he did say this is a unlikely option.
ok, I think I understand now.
They closed the case because they dont want the case number to remain open in their system and pass SLA "service level agreement" time. This is pretty common in hardware repair.
If this is true then it does sound like they will replace the part.
Well that's good to know. At first i was thinking the person was just fobbing me off. I really hope they do repair the device; If not I will go mental at them.
Thanks for the info.
Also have anyone in the UK got theirs repaired yet?
Evan2ac said:
I dont understand, why are they waiting for a part if the case is closed?
Worst case you can order a new unit, swap screens, and return it.
Remember $500-$600 for a tablet which costs $120 to make demands perfection.
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Wait? It costs $120 to make it, or it's made of $120 worth of bulk parts.
The argument is valid, but not when you twist up reality to make it fit your point. There are other costs involved in making and getting the tablet into your hands than the bulk cost of the parts.
Evan2ac said:
I dont understand, why are they waiting for a part if the case is closed?
Worst case you can order a new unit, swap screens, and return it.
Remember $500-$600 for a tablet which costs $120 to make demands perfection.
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Sadly I wouldn't have a clue on how to replace it?
For anyone else who has this problem here is an update. They have agreed to replace it but it will take up to 28days. BO
Just buy a new one, swap the back covers, and return the defective one. 28 days is unacceptable for a repair.
Try blowing into the connector pin area & see if that helps you out. Others have reported it working for them. There is a thread in here about it.
RMXO said:
Try blowing into the connector pin area & see if that helps you out. Others have reported it working for them. There is a thread in here about it.
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Blowing in the connector does as much good as blowing in Nintendo cartridges. The screen is sealed and blowing will do nothing.
Evan2ac said:
Just buy a new one, swap the back covers, and return the defective one. 28 days is unacceptable for a repair.
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The assertion here being that they don't power on the device and check the serial number, etc., that is electronically embedded in the device? Does that really work?
Another update. I called back and apparently it was sent recorded delivery today. Will let you know when i get it.
Evan2ac said:
Blowing in the connector does as much good as blowing in Nintendo cartridges. The screen is sealed and blowing will do nothing.
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Tell it to these ppl then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222149
Evan2ac said:
Blowing in the connector does as much good as blowing in Nintendo cartridges. The screen is sealed and blowing will do nothing.
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Being the reason why it does actually help. Because the device is sealed you create a greater pressure on the inside of the device than on the outside. Since the back part is more flexible than the front it moves outward, obviously only slightly, but just enough to reduce pressure of whatever is pressing against the screen from behind. And as pointed out, it is only temporary, as when you stop blowing the over pressure seizes as well.
I also have the problem with Newton Rings, but I think it's because it is a little bent. The corners of the tab does not line up when I put it on a table.
Just thought I should mention this so you guys having newton rings can check if yours is bent as well.
It is not the best built tablet and it might bend a little if you have it with you in a backpack etc..
samsung galaxy tab 10.1 newton rings
be careful when you buy any samsung product from overseas , samsung uk will not honour their warrenty although the problem is a know manufacturing defect
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1130230
http://www.yugatech.com/blog/persona...-slick-issues/
http://www.thegalaxytabforum.com/ind...n-rings-issue/
http://galaxytablife.com/2011/07/gal...slick-problem/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07...ings-is-yours/
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_10...sageId=5198453
http://www.iwantadroid.com/2011/07/p...newtons-rings/
https://mobicity.zendesk.com/entries...isture-problem
Solution!
I caught the famous newton rings two days ago after 2 months of ownership - and paniced at once. I read about all the disappointed users and returns and repairs. And decided to do the same. Got a ticket from the berlin workshop, that officially repairs for samsung. But i like experimenting. So i followed some leads before sending in. Put it in the fridge, warm it up on the heating. Both had no effect. At first. Disappointed, I let it lie beside my keyboard and continued working. When i looked at the 10.1 after 40 minutes again, the stain, that measured 2,5 * 5,5 cm in the morning and rather grew bigger when trying to treat, was shrunk to 1*3 cm or so. I did not trust my eyes. After another 10 mins, it was only the size of a fingerprint. And then - the whole screen totally went back to completely normal on its own. No rubbing or pressing could change that development.
My conclusion, and i can not believe, that samsung has not published that quickly and clearely, is that it is a moisture-problem. The weather these days is moist and also, i worked with the tab in moist surrounding lately. The "healing" set in, when i had the tab heated up to ca. 30 - 40 degrees celsius and then let it rest for some time with no cover in a dry room at 20 degrees celsius.
Try it before complaining, if you can live with thecircumstances. I do not know, if the replacement-screens of samsung is different, new at all or only dried by samsung... i will not send in mine anymore.
I can confirm, that the healing by administer some heat is permanent and also by doing the fridge and the heating again after the healing, i could not provoke any stain again.
Good luck!
Sent from my GT-P7510 using xda premium
ok guys, so i had this problem pop up a few months after i bougt it, so last week i spoke to the customer service rep and they mailed me a prepaid ups label, i mailed it to texas, 4 days later its back on my door step.
My impressions:1. They definitely changed the screen, the new screen has a slight texture underneath the glass, that isnt noticeable until you look really really hard.
2. The screen brightness, quality is unchanged.
3. The screen now has a dark grey samsung label on the bezel, my tab didnt have the label before.
4. The tab feels a lot more solid than it did before, not that it wasnt solid before, but there was always a very very slight creak when you handled it, especially at the back. It feels like everything is really really tightened now, feels a lot more dense.its a good thing.
5. I cant seem to produce the newton rings now, before they would appear temporarily when i applied slight pressure to the screen, or when i rubbed the screen to remove fingerprints, but now that doesnt happen. The glass feels a little thicker.
6. Another slight difference, is the fingerprints dont seem to show as much as they did before. Its not a major difference, the screen is still a fingerprint magnet.
RMXO said:
Try blowing into the connector pin area & see if that helps you out. Others have reported it working for them. There is a thread in here about it.
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It worked for a minute. Haha! What will I do to fix it?
I know this problem has been talked about thoroughly, but I'd like to ask you something...
I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 which immediately showed the problem, at first the rings would disappear minutes after use, but after a few days the problem started to get worse and the ring expanded until it covered the entire center of the screen, and wouldn't go away even if stuck in the fridge (which would have been a temporary solution anyway).
Now, today the store received my replacement unit, which I saw and tried but couldn't get today because of some forms the store needs to receive to complete the replacement. This unit has an earlier serial number, and the rings appeared to be there but only if extreme pressure was applied on the screen.
I am now wondering if the "newton rings defect" can be described as a ring that "appears and stays there during and after use", or more like the "rings appear on pressure and fade away immediately"?
Can any of you lucky owners of a "good" SGS tell me if the rings DO NOT appear even when hard pressure is applied?
I am asking this because my current defective unit shows the rings even on light pressure, while the replacement requires much harder pressure to show the defect.
Thank you!
Have had unit since July with no newton rings. Can push down fairly hard and not see any defect.
Pretty sure that ANY Tab will show the rings if you push hard enough. At that point you are physically harming your tablet just to see if you can physically harm the tablet though.
I had the same problem. The tab was about 6 weeks old when it started to show the rings. Then they went away completely, but came back much worse after about a week. I took my tab to a Samsung service center and they replaced the screen with a new one which has much sturdier glass.
The original screen had a serious amount of flex to it. The glass would bow in the middle with even a light press, and this is what was responsible for the newton's rings problem. Samsung seems to have just made a bad call with the glass they used for their first few batches of tablets, and I imagine all of these tabs will show the newton's rings defect at some point.
The new glass that was installed for me doesn't flex at all, but if I push down really hard on the screen the rings still appear, but disappear as soon as I release the pressure.
I would say that if the rings appear at all during regular use, whether they persist or not, that constitutes a defect, because it'll only get worse in the long run.
i almost bended the tab both from the back and front with my fingers in different areas on the screen.. and the result is no rings, not even a slight distortion..
i have this problem, the back black surface is very soft and flexable just like the back part of the galaxy s.. it makes me wonder if it is going to be worse in time.. other than that there is no physical problems..
got my replacement today. The glass feels nice, and while the old one developed the rings right on the first day, this one has no rings at all, even after I stressed it with looped quadrant tests while it was inside its pouch and in a hot room. I heard that someone started seeing the rings weeks after buying it, I am now wondering if they will show up or those people just started NOTICING it a bit later. As I said, the other one started having problems right out of the box, as soon as it got a bit warm.
i forgot to ask... when did you buy yours? On the back you can see a number starting with R2GB and then a 6, 7 or 8, with 8 being the latest devices built (august). Mine is a B6, the other one was a B7
Camazza said:
got my replacement today. The glass feels nice, and while the old one developed the rings right on the first day, this one has no rings at all, even after I stressed it with looped quadrant tests while it was inside its pouch and in a hot room. I heard that someone started seeing the rings weeks after buying it, I am now wondering if they will show up or those people just started NOTICING it a bit later. As I said, the other one started having problems right out of the box, as soon as it got a bit warm.
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After having my Tab for months, the issue only started here last week as the UK had some hot weather. Definitely didn't have it before that. Now it's cooled again, they've gone away.
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After some days of intense use the problem has not appeared. I have to press down on the screen fairly hard to make them appear but they vanish a soon a I lift my finger. Obviously every tablet does this, I tried pressing hard on the screen on an iPad2 and a ring appeared there too. Hope it stays this way
I have had a B6 model for approx 3 and a half weeks. Wife bought it in early August though. I see the rings only when I press hard on the middle of the screen. They disappear immediately.
How do you have find a Samsung Service center?
nuprotocol said:
How do you have find a Samsung Service center?
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Great!!!!!
dmoney94 said:
Great!!!!!
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lollll Sorry, was using thumb keyboard on my Tab while trying to talk to somebody...
Lets try this again. lol
"How do you find a Samsung Service center?" lol
samsung galaxy tab 10.1 newton rings
be careful if you buy your tab overseas samsung uk will not honour the warrenty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1130230
http://www.yugatech.com/blog/persona...-slick-issues/
http://www.thegalaxytabforum.com/ind...n-rings-issue/
http://galaxytablife.com/2011/07/gal...slick-problem/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07...ings-is-yours/
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_10...sageId=5198453
http://www.iwantadroid.com/2011/07/p...newtons-rings/
https://mobicity.zendesk.com/entries...isture-problem
Solution!
I caught the famous newton rings two days ago after 2 months of ownership - and paniced at once. I read about all the disappointed users and returns and repairs. And decided to do the same. Got a ticket from the berlin workshop, that officially repairs for samsung. But i like experimenting. So i followed some leads before sending in. Put it in the fridge, warm it up on the heating. Both had no effect. At first. Disappointed, I let it lie beside my keyboard and continued working. When i looked at the 10.1 after 40 minutes again, the stain, that measured 2,5 * 5,5 cm in the morning and rather grew bigger when trying to treat, was shrunk to 1*3 cm or so. I did not trust my eyes. After another 10 mins, it was only the size of a fingerprint. And then - the whole screen totally went back to completely normal on its own. No rubbing or pressing could change that development.
My conclusion, and i can not believe, that samsung has not published that quickly and clearely, is that it is a moisture-problem. The weather these days is moist and also, i worked with the tab in moist surrounding lately. The "healing" set in, when i had the tab heated up to ca. 30 - 40 degrees celsius and then let it rest for some time with no cover in a dry room at 20 degrees celsius.
Try it before complaining, if you can live with thecircumstances. I do not know, if the replacement-screens of samsung is different, new at all or only dried by samsung... i will not send in mine anymore.
I can confirm, that the healing by administer some heat is permanent and also by doing the fridge and the heating again after the healing, i could not provoke any stain again.
Good luck!
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ok guys, so i had this problem pop up a few months after i bougt it, so last week i spoke to the customer service rep and they mailed me a prepaid ups label, i mailed it to texas, 4 days later its back on my door step.
My impressions:1. They definitely changed the screen, the new screen has a slight texture underneath the glass, that isnt noticeable until you look really really hard.
2. The screen brightness, quality is unchanged.
3. The screen now has a dark grey samsung label on the bezel, my tab didnt have the label before.
4. The tab feels a lot more solid than it did before, not that it wasnt solid before, but there was always a very very slight creak when you handled it, especially at the back. It feels like everything is really really tightened now, feels a lot more dense.its a good thing.
5. I cant seem to produce the newton rings now, before they would appear temporarily when i applied slight pressure to the screen, or when i rubbed the screen to remove fingerprints, but now that doesnt happen. The glass feels a little thicker.
6. Another slight difference, is the fingerprints dont seem to show as much as they did before. Its not a major difference, the screen is still a fingerprint magnet.
Please please please somebody help me. I have the little oil spot inside of my screen. How do I get rid of it permanently without sending it to Samsung?? I'm going on a trip in 2 days and need to take it along with me. So any info on how to fix it would be great!!
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Put it in the fridge for 10 minutes.
etbob623 said:
Put it in the fridge for 10 minutes.
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This a permanent fix?
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Blow very gently into the charging port. You will need to put your lips there to get a seal, but don't slobber all over it. A good fix when you are out in the world but I suspect the fridge option is better in the long run due to moisture.
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Permanent enough to not be annoying. You might have to do it every few months at the most.
i solved mine by putting a few layer of folded paper abt 2" x 0.5" at the back, middle, abt an inch or two of the top. you got to experiment the placement as well as the thickness of the folded paper yourself. too much then it will make it worst, too little and it wont make a diff. then i snap it back into the original book case folder. this force the tablet to bend upwards a little in the middle and i no longer have the oil stain. but it does once its out of the case. i consider my solution sort of "permanent" for me...
As far as I know, there's no "permanent" solution except sending it in. If I was you I'd just deal with it for the days you're out and send it in when you have time (it's what I did). Unless yours is way worse than most, you can't see it when it's turned on (maybe if you're really looking for it). BTW- they stopped using the defective screens at least 3 or 4 months ago; I'm surprised you got one that has it. Was it new or used when you bought it? In case you're curious, Samsung never asked me for proof of purchase, so if you're worried about second-hand purchase not having a warranty, I'm pretty sure they'll fix it no matter what...
*Look at that. A mod edited my post. Good to see there's actually mods here; bummer all you do is edit posts that are critical of the mods instead of real moderation (stickies, deleting and merging duplicative threads; editing badly-written post titles; generally making the site and the search function more useful....).
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Just send it to the service center
Mine was really bad, it took up a huge portion of the screen, but you could only see it from an angle not when looking directly at it. I bit the bullet, called Samsung. The service lady was very nice, problem was immediately acknowledged , no questions asked , just the serial number info. I had it back in less than two weeks. Very glad I sent it it! Oh, back up your data! Mine came back factory restored. Just do it! The rings will come back even after putting it in the fridge!
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As far as I know, there's no "permanent" solution except sending it in. If I was you I'd just deal with it for the days you're out and send it in when you have time (it's what I did). Unless yours is way worse than most, you can't see it when it's turned on (maybe if you're really looking for it). BTW- they stopped using the defective screens at least 3 or 4 months ago; I'm surprised you got one that has it. Was it new or used when you bought it? In case you're curious, Samsung never asked me for proof of purchase, so if you're worried about second-hand purchase not having a warranty, I'm pretty sure they'll fix it no matter what...
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I got it from Best Buy!!! Just my luck
twolfekc said:
I got it from Best Buy!!! Just my luck
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So did I.. I. Taking mind in today.
galactic FORCE!
I got my tab back in August 2011. I've always been able to generate these rings by pressing hard on the screen, but they would eventually fade away after a few seconds on their own.
Yesterday, for the first time, the rings stayed. After a while, I was able to bend/press/smear them away, but this has me worried. Now, the rings appear with just slight pressure on the screen.
Should I wait until it gets worse? Maybe I should just call and request to send it in as Samsung seems to be replacing them no questions asked? I'd love to just get this new and improved screen you guys are talking about.
Sending it to the service center is painless and it'll be back into your hands in less than 10 calendar days.
Or you can just live with it. For the most part you can't see it when you're using the Tab. I lived with it for 6 months before deciding to send it in. Then I kicked myself for not sending it in sooner.
You think I can request a repair even if the rings, for the time being, go away on their own? Will they only take it in if they are "stuck" on the screen and only a certain area in size?
Ken4G said:
You think I can request a repair even if the rings, for the time being, go away on their own? Will they only take it in if they are "stuck" on the screen and only a certain area in size?
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I did. Some days they were there, sometimes not. I called and they immediately acknowledged the problem and sent me an RMA. I don't think the repair person even checks. They just replace the screen.
Awesome. Thanks for the info.
Ken4G said:
You think I can request a repair even if the rings, for the time being, go away on their own? Will they only take it in if they are "stuck" on the screen and only a certain area in size?
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Absolutely. It's a known problem; they shouldn't even give you any trouble if you call it "newton rings" (don't call it oil spot or water or they'll think it was your fault). One other bit I should have mentioned: most of the screens that got the problem did not have a logo on them. The ones they're replacing them with say "samsung" on the bottom. It's better than having the rings, but I do miss my logo free slate...
I do not have the logo. Hmmm, I don't know how I feel about this. Where is the logo? Is it on the long edge or the short edge? I use my tab 100% landscape.
Mine has the logo on the bottom long edge, centered. I actually like having it because when someone asks me if it's an iPad I just point to the logo.
Thinking about calling. Is there a special phone number in the USA for these Newton Ring cases? Or just use the 800-726-7864 number on their support page?
After a trip to a shower my HTC One was declared dead (boot loop even after rice, humidity remover, heat, and others) I figured I would open the phone even it it meant that I could destroy it. It turns out that all you really need is patience and tools already available. Sure, I did bent the upper cover but, hey, everything else is intact.
I started by removing the volume button and started using those "guitar picks" around going down. Added some heat to unset the glue and moving slowly I started prying open the right side (when you are looking at the lcd). Than continued moving down until the left side was stuck. After that I went high on the volume button to set the whole right side open.
Now I'm using the other tool (the one that looks like a lever?) I started opening the left side. This side was a lot harder so I applied heat again. After that the glue wasn't an issue and it started to open nicely. Now I have the phone open and I'll see if I can get it working again.
Sorry for the English. I'm too excited to correct the mistakes and I'm not from an English speaking country.
Edit: added tools pictures.
The guitar picks were used to start opening the phone. The green and blue tool were used to open the left/top/bottom sides. The light blue tool was used mostly as a lever on the right side that was already open.
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Video will be here shortly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48832250&postcount=22
Overall experience while opening the HTC One (compared to the iPad 2/iPhone 3G/S/4S/iPod touch 5th/Motorola Atrix/Transformer Prime) I would give it a 4. The iPad being a 2 (almost impossible to open without a heat source and nearly impossible to mount a new glass without issues).
Uhuhu said:
After a trip to a shower
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... Should I ask why?
To fix the purple tint caused by heat on the camera sensor. thats why.
chc31 said:
... Should I ask why?
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After dropping my an old phone in the toilet (Before I went ) never again. My phone is barred from the bathroom unless its in my pocket. I guess the OP wanted to have some alone time with his phone.........................
chc31 said:
... Should I ask why?
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TuneIn, on the upper part of the bathroom/shower (we mostly call it "box" to take a shower while listening to music.
Wow I think that this would be very usefull for other people who want open it...
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Wow I think that this would be very usefull for other people who want open it...
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Well, it clearly isint. He just wanted everyone to know that he was able to open the phone.
Ok you did a pretty amazing job. Now let's move on.
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jags_the1 said:
Well, it clearly isint. He just wanted everyone to know that he was able to open the phone.
Ok you did a pretty amazing job. Now let's move on.
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Sorry you meant he was able to break the phone
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Sorry you meant he was able to break the phone
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Phone is back. 100% working again. After opening it up I used a hairdryer on the "on/off" switch, left it open to cool down. After an hour I left it charging and left it there. It wasn't boot looping anymore and it turned on.
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Phone is back. 100% working again. After opening it up I used a hairdryer on the "on/off" switch, left it open to cool down. After an hour I left it charging and left it there. It wasn't boot looping anymore and it turned on.
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But it is the same phone? how did you repare the top right corner of the screen that was completely off centered?
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But it is the same phone? how did you repare the top right corner of the screen that was completely off centered?
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Same phone. I just glued it back to position with a superglue (superbonder is the trademark I've used). Used a toothpick to smear it gently and used some phone books to keep things in place. The top aluminum part was bent but the superglue is now holding it.
About the video, I'm not sure I'm willing to open it again. It would be awesome tho..
I have read that under the speaker grills there are screws holding it together.. did you encounter these screws?
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I have read that under the speaker grills there are screws holding it together.. did you encounter these screws?
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Found no screws. It's stuck together in one piece by some clips on the white border only. It's also glued around the same white border.
Follow-up: The phone is still working fine but not charging anymore. I'll wait to open it again later, in about two days or so, and than I'll video the process to see if there's something wrong. Hopefully it's fixable. And I hope I can open it without issues just like the first time. If it doesn't charge I'll see if I can get a new charging port (maybe the water did some damage by rusting the contacts of the port).
It seems that the phone is playing tricks on me. It's charging today.. Go figure..
Could be the water damage. I read where people with different phones talked about the phone acting weird like it just stop charging or the screen won't come on. That would come and go without warning. Remember my father in law damaged a phone once when he was a truck driver and delivering his load in to a walk in freezer. He made many trips in and out and I guess from the extreme cold to heat made it condensate inside the phone. Where are the water damage labels on the phone beings you had it open?
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Double post.
Water labels are intact and since htc left Brazil we don't have an authorized to fix it so I opened it and saw that there is no water indicator in red. The water damage sticker is below the flash. Look at the pictures and you'll see a white sticker below the flash and another close to the usb port on the lower side of the phone. Not sure if the second one is a water damage indicator..
I'll keep using the phone till I get some alone time to open it. Tho I'm worried that I might break the phone this time (since it's working again - for no apparent reason).
So, yeah, there's an issue with the charging. Not sure if it's the port or the phone. Tested different chargers and it won't charge while it's on nor when it's off. After a day off it charged (yesterday) but now it won't charge. This sux. I have to find out what's going on. So, yes, I'll have to open it again. I can't have a phone that will be used to drive using gps all day behaving it like that. Phones won't last 4 hours on battery alone while using gps.
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Sorry for the double/triple post, but it's the best way to keep everyone informed..
If I helped you in any way please consider donating something so I can buy a new phone. The HTC One is dead due to an issue with the USB connector or something else that I'm still not aware. I will use this phone as a test bed from now on to see if I can fix other stuff without breaking too so I do need a new phone. You can donate here: http://bit.ly/1a9vqqg
Thanks and enjoy the video! I hope it helps a lot of people.
A video will be uploaded here: (it's 04:37am GMT -2) and still 205 minutes left to upload. Video will be 720p and it's 1.2gb so yeah, it will take a while. But now I'm off to bed. And sorry for my english. I'm ok writing but I'm so so when speaking. I said I would edit the video but since it's just shy of 19 minutes I figured I would leave it like that.
If you guys have any idea on what to do to help me fix the charging issue I would see if I can try that now that the phone can be easily opened. :fingers-crossed: