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Howdy XDA!
So I'm not new to Android but new to Android tablets.
Having said that, I browsed through the development forum but with so many threads and just starting to read; it's hard to tell where to start.
So if you're into rooting to get more out of your iconia... where do you recommend starting?
I know people will probably rip on me for this thread and whatnot, but anyway... just looking for some initial thoughts...
Thanks guys!
***Updating with info provided by cfrock and links added by me***
1 - IconiaRoot - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
2 - install AcerRecoveryInstaller from the marketplace - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14818316&postcount=109
3 - install ClockworkMod with AcerRecoveryInstaller
3a - YES, make a backup copy of recovery.img
4 - complete a full backup with ClockworkMod
4a - copy backups off-tablet (including recovery.img from step 3a) (get drivers here - http://www.acer.co.uk/ac/en/GB/content/drivers drill through options to choose a500 then drivers then 3.0 version )
5- Go wild! Install ROMs, cure cancer, save the world
6 - A challenger appears! (new official OTA update and I want it!)
OR
666 – I totally ruined everything! Oh the blood everywhere!
7 - restore full backup from step 4 with ClockworkMod
!!! - Do I clear caches and format everything before doing this, as with a fresh ROM?
8 - restore recovery.img from step 3a with AcerRecoveryInstaller
9 - unroot with IconiaRoot
10 - OTA update!
OR
10 – whew! Let’s try that again.
11 - lather, rinse, repeat.
11a - be satisfied.
I would hope that people wouldn't flame on a question thread. What I did is root with iconia root. Then install cwm recovery using acer Recovery and finally pick a good rom to flash. I tried the xoom rom first but didn't like the stability so I went to honeyvilain. Basically go the the development page 1 and everything is probably there. Good luck.
Welcome!!
The above post is a good start. I tried most of the Roms I really liked the galaxy one but some reason
Everytime used a custom rom. My market would have issues downloading free apps it would say
Error processing purchase and would refuse the download. Now am back to stock hopefully I can figure
Out what the issue is tried searching but no luck and won't ask the question cause ill get flamed for whatever
reason lol
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I'm also new to android tablets but if you want to root you will need iconia root found on these forums with different versions working for different builds. I've not loaded a custom rom but I hear good things about the Minimalist Acer rom, supposed to be really speedy without all the bloatware.
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As stated above, the first app you should get is "Acer Recovery Tool". From it, install "Clockwork Recovery Mod" to make an initial backup of your system before doing anything else. That way if you screw the pooch (pardon my french), you'll have a plan "B" to get you back where you started. Then you can start playing around with modded ROMs. Make sure you do a clean wipe and format before installing any ROMs. The most efficient way is as follows:
Before installing:
Boot into CWM
1/wipe cache
2/wipe data/factory reset
Advanced Menu:
3/wipe dalvik
4/wipe battery stat
Mount and Storage Menu
5/format (system, data, cache )... leave SD card alone.
install the zip ( new rom ) file !
Once done installing... repeat steps #1 - #4 only ( this is to assured that you are cleaned 110% in regard to the NEW rom that you have just installed )
DO NOT DO THE STEP #5 AFTER THE INSTALLATION !
Reboot system into initial Android greeting screen.
It may be considered by some to be a bit of "overkill", be be assured you won't get a lot of the "bugs" that many get after an install using this method. Thanks to Unicornkaz for the directions.
Once you've played around with custom roms, you may want to flash to the most current Stock ROM to compare how they are against Acer's lastest release found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176632
I hope this helps?
The above post is 110% pure winsauce
I have always installed new roms via the above proceduce, and have never even come close to breaking a sweat when it comes to flashing a new rom. Make backups, keep backups somewhere safe and off tablet, I got lucky and got a nice 32gb microSD card as a birthday present and I keep my backups there, as well as on my desktop PC just for good measure.
Just take it slow, and don't do anything until you have read the directions and follow them step by step. If in doubt ask questions, XDA is full of epic nice people that would be happy to help you!
Torisen said:
I'm also new to android tablets but if you want to root you will need iconia root found on these forums with different versions working for different builds. I've not loaded a custom rom but I hear good things about the Minimalist Acer rom, supposed to be really speedy without all the bloatware.
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You can always kinda do that yourself - get Titanium Backup or Root toolbox, you can backup any Acer installed apk and then delete it - just take it slow and don't remove anything if in doubt. You can then move the backup. Apk files off the tablet and reclaim the space - just keep that backup safe if you are running stock and want any future OTA updates to work - you will need to restore all of them before letting the update run
ieee_raider said:
Howdy XDA!
So I'm not new to Android but new to Android tablets.
Having said that, I browsed through the development forum but with so many threads and just starting to read; it's hard to tell where to start.
So if you're into rooting to get more out of your iconia... where do you recommend starting?
I know people will probably rip on me for this thread and whatnot, but anyway... just looking for some initial thoughts...
Thanks guys!
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Take your time, don't rush into anything, read read read (most of the questions about things that can go wrong have been asked and answered so you can save yourself a lot of time waiting for an answer by checking if your question has already been asked), and most of all, enjoy your new toy!
FWIW, I've tried most of the custom ROMs and found them all, in one way or another, wanting. That's not to disparage the ROMs or all the hard work the devs do on addressing issues and building the ROMs in the first place. It's just that, for my particular wants, stock ROM suits me better. I *have*, however, installed RichardTrip's custom kernel as it's the closest thing to stock kernel with an overclocking option, and works just fine with stock ROMs.
Alright so I had read about not installing 3.1 roms over stock 3.0 or some incompatibilities... any issue there?
Any watchouts I should be aware of?
I know with my old Moment, there were some builds that weren't compatible with each other... so just wondering.
Thanks again guys!
backup
Backup! Backup Backup Backup Backup Backup Backup Backup.then save it several places.lean about the boot loader and the work around.then have fun with your tab.learn learn.situation you don't make the mistakes many have done for you to get this device on the right track.
Hug the Developers and give a shout out to all the tablet brickers.that posted information for development
awesome work guys/ladies tech women are hot oops did I say that giggles
ieee_raider said:
Alright so I had read about not installing 3.1 roms over stock 3.0 or some incompatibilities... any issue there?
Any watchouts I should be aware of?
I know with my old Moment, there were some builds that weren't compatible with each other... so just wondering.
Thanks again guys!
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This should not be the case so long as you're doing complete wipes. I think you may be confusing the 'incompatibility' regarding radios on android phones. Going from 1 rom to another shouldn't matter as long as its been wiped.
erica_renee said:
Backup! Backup Backup Backup Backup Backup Backup Backup.then save it several places.lean about the boot loader and the work around.then have fun with your tab.learn learn.situation you don't make the mistakes many have done for you to get this device on the right track.
Hug the Developers and give a shout out to all the tablet brickers.that posted information for development
awesome work guys/ladies tech women are hot oops did I say that giggles
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+1 for both backup and tech ladies - both make the world a better place
cfrock said:
This should not be the case so long as you're doing complete wipes. I think you may be confusing the 'incompatibility' regarding radios on android phones. Going from 1 rom to another shouldn't matter as long as its been wiped.
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And another +1 to this. Before flashing a rom I first factory reset, clear cache, battery, and davik - then flash rom and clear everything again. Using this process I have never had problems bouncing around from one rom to the other. Backup first, and get that backup file somewhere safe (read: off tablet or at least on the microSD)
As a corollary to the original topic, I have a question about undoing custom ROM installations. Here's how I understand the process for installing ROMs and returning to stock, but I haven't done it yet because I'm not 100% certain about the steps after #6 below:
1 - IconiaRoot
2 - install AcerRecoveryInstaller from the marketplace
3 - install ClockworkMod with AcerRecoveryInstaller
3a - YES, make a backup copy of recovery.img
4 - complete a full backup with ClockworkMod
4a - copy backups off-tablet (including recovery.img from step 3a)
5- Go wild! Install ROMs, cure cancer, save the world
6 - A challenger appears! (new official OTA update and I want it!)
OR
666 – I totally ruined everything! Oh the blood everywhere!
7 - restore full backup from step 4 with ClockworkMod
!!! - Do I clear caches and format everything before doing this, as with a fresh ROM?
8 - restore recovery.img from step 3a with AcerRecoveryInstaller
9 - unroot with IconiaRoot
10 - OTA update!
OR
10 – whew! Let’s try that again.
11 - lather, rinse, repeat.
11a - be satisfied.
Am I missing something critical? I feel like I must be.
Guys one question....how safe is the data on the tablet...(not external sd cards)...when flashing a rom for the first time...?
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I always, always, always wipe before any flashing;back to stock or otherwise (on my EVO as my Tab is just a few days old, rooted but running stock rom). It can't hurt and really only takes a few seconds. Helps to lessen bugs on new flashed rom.
Merovian said:
As a corollary to the original topic, I have a question about undoing custom ROM installations. Here's how I understand the process for installing ROMs and returning to stock, but I haven't done it yet because I'm not 100% certain about the steps after #6 below:
1 - IconiaRoot
2 - install AcerRecoveryInstaller from the marketplace
3 - install ClockworkMod with AcerRecoveryInstaller
3a - YES, make a backup copy of recovery.img
4 - complete a full backup with ClockworkMod
4a - copy backups off-tablet (including recovery.img from step 3a)
5- Go wild! Install ROMs, cure cancer, save the world
6 - A challenger appears! (new official OTA update and I want it!)
OR
666 – I totally ruined everything! Oh the blood everywhere!
7 - restore full backup from step 4 with ClockworkMod
!!! - Do I clear caches and format everything before doing this, as with a fresh ROM?
8 - restore recovery.img from step 3a with AcerRecoveryInstaller
9 - unroot with IconiaRoot
10 - OTA update!
OR
10 – whew! Let’s try that again.
11 - lather, rinse, repeat.
11a - be satisfied.
Am I missing something critical? I feel like I must be.
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vari9 said:
Guys one question....how safe is the data on the tablet...(not external sd cards)...when flashing a rom for the first time...?
Sent from my XT720 using XDA App
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It's only safe if you do an entire backup first with CWM.
Updated OP to include tips from replies
Hi,
I am a newbie android user so sorry if what I am about to ask sounds really dumb to some of yours!
So first of all, I have rooted my tablet and installed the stock ROM suggested by the video author. Now I was wondering if my tablet would be more efficient by using some other ROM like the THOR one I keep finding on all the post around the forum. My question is how do I change ROM without loosing all my app and settings? Is it possible?
Now my last question is concerning overclocking and Kernel, if someone could explain what the basics of those two terms. If I understood well, overclocking is changing the settings so that you will save some power.
Thanks a lot for your patience XDA forum ANdroids pros!
Was reading a bit about my questions and wanted to get a confirmation before I do anything stupid!
To change ROM:
1) Download Titanium Back up apk
2) Back up all file using it (Do i back up on a sd card or just use the program and hit back up)
3)Download the new ROM
4)Change the name to update.zip
5)Same steps as I did for the installing of the first stock ROM
Put it down said:
Hi,
I am a newbie android user so sorry if what I am about to ask sounds really dumb to some of yours!
So first of all, I have rooted my tablet and installed the stock ROM suggested by the video author. Now I was wondering if my tablet would be more efficient by using some other ROM like the THOR one I keep finding on all the post around the forum. My question is how do I change ROM without loosing all my app and settings? Is it possible?
Now my last question is concerning overclocking and Kernel, if someone could explain what the basics of those two terms. If I understood well, overclocking is changing the settings so that you will save some power.
Thanks a lot for your patience XDA forum ANdroids pros!
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Answer to your first question is kinda a matter of personal preference since custom roms may brake something. But my personal opinion is yes. You just have to try it and see.
Yes you can back everything up but I'd recommend only backing up your apps and data for them because if you try to back up your settings than often times it won't work properly with your custom rom. You could use an app called Titanium Backup to back up your apps & data for them. BTW app "data" is your settings and saves for a game/app.
Overclocking is when you set the speed of the cpu higher to gain performance which actually takes more power. If you want to use less power than youd want to underclock. You could use a combination of underclock and overclocking to maintain or increase your battery life though. For example, setting the cpu @ 1540 when screen is on and only like 500 when screen is off. Youtube has some good explanations and tutorials . I use SetCPU for my overclocking.
A kernel is basically what "controls" or tells the os what to do.
Put it down said:
Was reading a bit about my questions and wanted to get a confirmation before I do anything stupid!
To change ROM:
1) Download Titanium Back up apk
2) Back up all file using it (Do i back up on a sd card or just use the program and hit back up)
3)Download the new ROM
4)Change the name to update.zip
5)Same steps as I did for the installing of the first stock ROM
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NO. You do not need to change the filename of a zip file to update.zip. There are a couple of reasons, but that can be discussed later. Leave the rom.zip filename as is.
I assume, after you downgraded, you installed Iconia root? And after that was verified as working (superuser icon), you installed Acer Recovery from the market and flashed the Thor Recovery?
Because if you didn't do these 2 things, you won't be going anywhere.
As far as using Titanium, unless you know exactly how to use it, I would advise just letting the market download your paid apps again after flashing your new rom.
The last thing we need, is for somebody to backup the wrong stuff, and reinstall it on a different rom. Yes, if you are rooted, you can actually back up system settings, then fubar your device when restoring them to a different rom.
It sounds like you should forget Titanium for awhile.
The contents on your sd card are safe.
Have you read anything about how to flash a rom? How to do a recovery backup and restore (in case things go wrong)?
TThanks a lot I really appreciate the answer, so now my question is do i backup my files on a sd card or just on the program itself and what are the benefits of getting another Kernel?
Thanks a lot again!
You can actually flash a Stock Rom (rooted 3.2) and flash several different kernels later. Or, you can get a rom pre-packaged with a cooked kernel.
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Put it down said:
TThanks a lot I really appreciate the answer, so now my question is do i backup my files on a sd card or just on the program itself and what are the benefits of getting another Kernel?
Thanks a lot again!
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By default, TB will back them to the SD. What exactly are the files you are going to back up?
Most of my apps are apk download so I guess i will go and find a proper tutorial on how to backup files on youtube thanks a lot for the answer. If i could ask one more question:
I would like for someone to explain to me the difference between installing a new ROM and a new Kernel!
Sorry again for my ignorance as I said previously I am new to all of this !
Put it down said:
TThanks a lot I really appreciate the answer, so now my question is do i backup my files on a sd card or just on the program itself and what are the benefits of getting another Kernel?
Thanks a lot again!
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There are several pluses to a cooked kernel. 1, videos typically run better. GPU has some tweaks. Actually, your battery life will be a lot better in some cases.
Not to mention several other pluses such as better support for certain apps that use gpu.
Regular stuff like sports apps, news, big games like GTA (wich was very long to install), Launcher, Widgets. Nothing major but because I am new was long for me to install and find .
Would you suggest any kind of ROM with cooked Kernel for someone who is a beginner like me and just trying to optimise hes tablet with the little skills he has the one I am using right now is this one:
CWM-Rooted_Acer_A500_7.006.01_COM_GEN2.zip
Put it down said:
Most of my apps are apk download so I guess i will go and find a proper tutorial on how to backup files on youtube thanks a lot for the answer. If i could ask one more question:
I would like for someone to explain to me the difference between installing a new ROM and a new Kernel!
Sorry again for my ignorance as I said previously I am new to all of this !
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It's ok. I would rather you ask questions, than brick your tab. Some people, jump in without asking, and, well, when it comes to TB, I get a little worried. Seen it too many times before.
The problem with TB, is that it's stupid. If you bu system apps from a totally different android version, TB doesn't know this. It may be an apk and look important, but it probably has odex files that may rely on certain dependancy versions. The result will be Force Close on your app. Lot's of apk's in the system.
You can use it, but only BACK UP the apps that you are 100% sure you downloaded. And nothing more.
Ok, All Roms contain a kernel. They won't run without it. It's like a bridge between the hardware and the android OS. It controls things such as voltage, processor, and some gpu stuff also. (graphic processor unit). A whole lot of stuff that interacts with the os. It's like the overlord.
Now, we all know 500/501s come with a kernel, they have to. And it works. But, things can be better. Processor speeds can be increased, and OV/UV can be applied to make it do so.
When you flash a rom, you have to do certain things before hand.
Boot to CWM recovery
Wipe your 3 mandatory things (user, cache, and dalvik)
Goto Mounts and storage and Format;
System
Cache
Dalvik
Flexrom
This as an advisable method.
When you flash only a kernel, you boot to CWM, and only wipe Dalvik
Big difference.
Sorry if I might be a bit rough. Trying to make sure you do the right thing and not have issues.
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Put it down said:
Regular stuff like sports apps, news, big games like GTA (wich was very long to install), Launcher, Widgets. Nothing major but because I am new was long for me to install and find .
Would you suggest any kind of ROM with cooked Kernel for someone who is a beginner like me and just trying to optimise hes tablet with the little skills he has the one I am using right now is this one:
CWM-Rooted_Acer_A500_7.006.01_COM_GEN2.zip
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Ohhhh you have an older version somewhat.
I assume you wish for English? Have to be careful about Com Gen's and if you want a different language.
I can quote you 3.
1. Is totally stock, with different them buttons. Good solid stock. Look in the the dev forum for Honeylicous from CJY. (the link to the roms are in his signature)
2. Go to tegraowners.com Thors site. There are 2. One of them Flexstriker is brand new. The other Thors ver 14.Flexstriker is 3.2.1 android, themed. Thor v14 is a port from the Asus Transformer.
Both are good and come with overclocked kernels, so you do not need to do anything else.
Please follow the exact instructions I gave you before flashing. Don't forget to make a recovery backup in your CWM (I assume you installed acer recovery, and the Thor Recovery?)
Ok so:
1) Is there any way I can backup ALL of my apps? I assume that when you are talking about apps that I downloaded you mean from the MArket but most of them i just downloaded the apk from explorer.
2) What ROM do you suggest? (one that already includes a Kernel so I only have to falsh the ROM)
3) For these steps I am not sure where to go and how to do it but maybe I can find a tutorial on youtube:
Boot to CWM recovery
Wipe your 3 mandatory things (user, cache, and dalvik)
Goto Mounts and storage and Format;
System
Cache
Dalvik
Flexrom
This as an advisable method.
Boot to CWM recovery is when you hold power and volume down?
Moscow Desire said:
It's ok. I would rather you ask questions, than brick your tab. Some people, jump in without asking, and, well, when it comes to TB, I get a little worried. Seen it too many times before.
The problem with TB, is that it's stupid. If you bu system apps from a totally different android version, TB doesn't know this. It may be an apk and look important, but it probably has odex files that may rely on certain dependancy versions. The result will be Force Close on your app. Lot's of apk's in the system.
You can use it, but only BACK UP the apps that you are 100% sure you downloaded. And nothing more.
Ok, All Roms contain a kernel. They won't run without it. It's like a bridge between the hardware and the android OS. It controls things such as voltage, processor, and some gpu stuff also. (graphic processor unit). A whole lot of stuff that interacts with the os. It's like the overlord.
Now, we all know 500/501s come with a kernel, they have to. And it works. But, things can be better. Processor speeds can be increased, and OV/UV can be applied to make it do so.
When you flash a rom, you have to do certain things before hand.
Boot to CWM recovery
Wipe your 3 mandatory things (user, cache, and dalvik)
Goto Mounts and storage and Format;
System
Cache
Dalvik
Flexrom
This as an advisable method.
When you flash only a kernel, you boot to CWM, and only wipe Dalvik
Big difference.
Sorry if I might be a bit rough. Trying to make sure you do the right thing and not have issues.
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Ohhhh you have an older version somewhat.
I assume you wish for English? Have to be careful about Com Gen's and if you want a different language.
I can quote you 3.
1. Is totally stock, with different them buttons. Good solid stock. Look in the the dev forum for Honeylicous from CJY. (the link to the roms are in his signature)
2. Go to Thors site. There are 2. One of them Flexstriker is brand new. The other Thors ver 14.Flexstriker is 3.2.1 android, themed. Thor v14 is a port from the Asus Transformer.
Both are good and come with overclocked kernels, so you do not need to do anything else.
Please follow the exact instructions I gave you before flashing. Don't forget to make a recovery backup in your CWM (I assume you installed acer recovery, and the Thor Recovery?)
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Woah thanks for the help man really appreciate, I think I will go with the site, as for the backup in my CWM I assume I did it I followed this procedure actually if it can help you understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfSPP8UOn78
So a recap of the steps I have to do to install a new ROM:
1) Backup my files --- TB or something else
2) Acer recovery --- Install recovery Image
3) I clear memory as you explained to me before
4) Download the new ROM
5) Install the new ROM as I did with the stock ROM installed previously (hold power + volume down then install zip from sd card)
Sorry for my newbness again!
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Woah thanks for the help man really appreciate, I think I will go with the tegraowners.com site, as for the backup in my CWM I assume I did it I followed this procedure actually if it can help you understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfSPP8UOn78
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Man, crazy Canuks And I say that with a smile
Didn't look at the video, but I will guess;
1. With the power off, you held Vol- and pwr, till you saw the text in the upper right corner of the display, then released.
2. In the menu, you select Backup and restore
3. Select backup system.
If you did that, then you have a current backup.
While you at Thors, site, do me a favor, and download his recovery zip, and flash it normally (copy to sd, boot to recovery, and select install zip from sd. Select Thor recovery zip. No wiping needed)
Boot system, and proceed to copy the zip at thors. Your choice. Both are great, and use the same kernel. (I helped test the kernel)
Then, reboot to recovery again, do all wipes and the 4 formats like I said. Do not wipe/format anything else.
Then go back a menu, and install zip from sd.
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Put it down said:
So a recap of the steps I have to do to install a new ROM:
1) Backup my files --- TB or something else
2) Acer recovery --- Install recovery Image
3) I clear memory as you explained to me before
4) Download the new ROM
5) Install the new ROM as I did with the stock ROM installed previously (hold power + volume down then install zip from sd card)
Sorry for my newbness again!
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No problem.
Oh, I assume you installed Iconia root? Are you rooted (superuser icon? Has to be done before acer recovery.). If you have a superuser icon in you apps, the best way to check it, is to install set-cpu and see if it grants you superuser access. Get it from the market.
Then run acer recovery.
Download new rom before messing with flashing and wiping Copy it to your SD card first.
NO. Vol- and pwr. the other way puts it into a stock recovery. You do not want that. """" VOL- and PWR til the text appears in the upper right corner."""""
I am rooted, but now I am lost again! where do i do the backup and restore?
I think it would be easier if you told me the step by step logical actions that I have to do like this:
1)
2)
If you have the time and patience to do it of course!
Moscow Desire said:
Man, crazy Canuks And I say that with a smile
Didn't look at the video, but I will guess;
1. With the power off, you held Vol- and pwr, till you saw the text in the upper right corner of the display, then released.
2. In the menu, you select Backup and restore
3. Select backup system.
If you did that, then you have a current backup.
While you at Thors, site, do me a favor, and download his recovery zip, and flash it normally (copy to sd, boot to recovery, and select install zip from sd. Select Thor recovery zip. No wiping needed)
Boot system, and proceed to copy the zip at thors. Your choice. Both are great, and use the same kernel. (I helped test the kernel)
Then, reboot to recovery again, do all wipes and the 4 formats like I said. Do not wipe/format anything else.
Then go back a menu, and install zip from sd.
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I do not remember doing a recovery like that, I can do it now I guess. I dont understand the next step though:
Boot system, and proceed to copy the zip at thors. Your choice. Both are great, and use the same kernel. (I helped test the kernel)
Sry for the 1000000x time
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Put it down said:
I am rooted, but now I am lost again! where do i do the backup and restore?
I think it would be easier if you told me the step by step logical actions that I have to do like this:
1)
2)
If you have the time and patience to do it of course!
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Ok dude, follow these steps.
you are rooted. so
1. Install Acer recovery from the market.
2. If you want to back up your downloaded apps, do them now.
2. Go to tegraowners, and download the Striker rom, or Thors v.14 rom, copy them to sd.
3. Run Acer recovery application. Install thors recovery.
4. After you install thors recovery, and what ever else it may ask you
5. Power off your tab
6. Restart to recovery (vol - and pwr till you see the text)
7. Select backup and restore. (use vol - & + to navigate, PWR to select.
8. Bacakup you system.
9. When it's finished, go back to the main menu
10. now you need to wipe;
a. User Data/system format
b. Cache
c. goto Advanced and wipe Dalvik cache
Back up to the previous menu
11. Goto Mounts and storage
12. Format;
a. System
b. Data
c. cache
d. Flexrom
Go back and select
Install zip from SD
(DO NOT SELECT INSTALL UPDATE.ZIP)
Select your zip you downloaded from Thors site.
BAM! Let it finish and reboot.
I will do just as you say and give you feed back! Thanks a lot man your the man! I will drink a shot of vodka to you tonight
There are several recoveries in the acer tab. I won't explain them all, but you need to listen to my steps after you install acer recovery, and install Thors recovery image.
The method you used before (vol+ and pwr) forced the tab to go into a stock recovery, whereas it only recognized a file called update.zip. The problem, is the update.zip must be "signed", or it will not complete. It only looks for acer authorized rom updates.
Hence, a custom rom, renamed, will not work. In fact, you may probably get yourself in a big mess by trying it.
When we install a custom recovery(Vol - and PWR) (acer recovery Thor), we basically trick the tab into booting the custom recovery first. Therefore bypassing any security and safeguards.
If we can't bypass these things, then we can't flash unauthorized roms.
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Put it down said:
I will do just as you say and give you feed back! Thanks a lot man your the man! I will drink a shot of vodka to you tonight
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Wooo Whooo! But make it Rum or cognac. Wife won't allow me to drink vodka. She's russian and knows what it does
hahaha deal
So here's my story:
I was kinda sick of the stock ROM, so I wanted to try out the Open Kang Projekt's ICS. And in order to do that I need to install Clockworkmod on my devise, and I did. But instead of installing the official CWM (which is version 4.0.0.4), I tried this: [Recovery] ClockworkMod - 5.5.0.4 - (Update: 03/18/12), I think it has the latest ICS kernel included or something (I'm not sure, that's what he said). And then I installed Kang's ICS ROM. Everything worked out just fine, except for the fact that it takes me every time about 5 minutes to boot, which is really a pain 'cause my tab crashes alot, and there are other bugs as well. So I decided to have a stable ROM instead of an unofficial ICS. But now I can't install any other ROM. I tried CLEAN ROM, team Overcome's ROM etc. but there's no luck, I'm always stuck at boot (Yes, I did wiped anything I could in CWM).
So now, what can I do?
I have wiped everything and flashed the official CWM 4.0.0.4 with Odin onto my tab, and I think that's the only thing I have on my tab now.
If I want to install Overcome's ROM now, what do I need. Do I need to install a bootloader? A kernel? What kind/version do I need. Shall I install the kernel first and then the ROM or the other way round?
And if I want to go back to stock, what do I have to do? Can I do that with Kies?
Really need some advice here. Hope you guys can help me.
BTW, my devise is Galaxy Tab 10.1 Wifi only.
Whenever I change my ROM, I always follow the steps outlined in S0ckM0nk3y's guide (stickied in the development section).
1. Use Odin to flash stock ROM
2. Boot into stock recovery and do a factory reset (I do it 3 times cuz I'm anal), also wipe the cache too
3. Now you should be back to stock ROM.
Make sure to thank S0ckM0nk3y for his very helpful post!!
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Do you mean the root and unroot thread? I don't really think that's what I need but I'll try to flash the stock from via Odin as you said. Thank you for your advises.
Yes, the root/unroot thread. Doing what I posted will get you to stock ROM. From there, you can try to load another ROM. I personally recommend task14 ROM. Make sure you read all instructions thoroughly as many times as necessary so that you fully understand the steps before you go on and flash anything. Task's page is pretty straightforward.
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Thank you. Everything's fine now. After installing the stock rom via odin I still got stuck at boot, but then I flashed the stock recovery (the 3e one) and did a factory reset with it, everything is back to normal now. I'm on stock rom again. Thank you very much for your replies.
That's quite the process. Not sure what went wrong for you in the first place (sounds like you've never done this before, from the wording of your questions), but all I do when I flash a new ROM is wipe (dalvik, then full wipe) and then flash. Never had to use ODIN except to flash CWM (and I've only done that twice, once when I got the tab and again a few weeks ago when the CM9 team released their variant).
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That's quite the process. Not sure what went wrong for you in the first place (sounds like you've never done this before, from the wording of your questions), but all I do when I flash a new ROM is wipe (dalvik, then full wipe) and then flash.
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That's what I meant when I said "I wiped everything I could". I did wipe dalvik cache, full wipe with CWM recovery 5.5.0.4 but somehow that did not work.
But now everything's fine again, after I wipe data/factory reset with the stock recovery instead of CWM.
I'm not sure of what went wrong either, but since everything is back to normal now, I think I'll leave it this way, no more custom rom.
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That's what I meant when I said "I wiped everything I could". I did wipe dalvik cache, full wipe with CWM recovery 5.5.0.4 but somehow that did not work.
But now everything's fine again, after I wipe data/factory reset with the stock recovery instead of CWM.
I'm not sure of what went wrong either, but since everything is back to normal now, I think I'll leave it this way, no more custom rom.
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I was actually referring to Swammy's process. No big deal. I can't imagine using a stock ROM at this point (especially since I've been using ICS for over a month now), but to each his own.
The only reason I go through that whole ordeal is because I hate all the cluttered folders on my sd, and cwm won't clean up any of that after a wipe. I admit, my method is a bit anal...but I do always go to stock, then wipe, then install cwm and load a fresh ROM. Is there a better method that I a unaware of? I am open to suggestions!
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The only reason I go through that whole ordeal is because I hate all the cluttered folders on my sd, and cwm won't clean up any of that after a wipe. I admit, my method is a bit anal...but I do always go to stock, then wipe, then install cwm and load a fresh ROM. Is there a better method that I a unaware of? I am open to suggestions!
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I just use storage analyser from the market and occasionally clean house manually. Takes 2-3 minutes, and forces me to stay aware of how the storage is used (I do the same thing on my windows computer, though it takes much longer!). I probably have some useless directories but, honestly, there's no advantage to having the vanilla folder structure. But, if that's your purpose, I don't know another way. I just pointed that out because noobs will read this thread and since your post is the first response, I'm just playing damage control...
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I just use storage analyser from the market and occasionally clean house manually. Takes 2-3 minutes, and forces me to stay aware of how the storage is used (I do the same thing on my windows computer, though it takes much longer!). I probably have some useless directories but, honestly, there's no advantage to having the vanilla folder structure. But, if that's your purpose, I don't know another way. I just pointed that out because noobs will read this thread and since your post is the first response, I'm just playing damage control...
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Good call!
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Hi,
I post here because i am a new registered user and do not have the right to post in the appropriate section (dev i think).
If a moderator want to move this tread, i agree, as i am always able to follow this post and make reply or update it
This post is not to ask help (and not in the future i hope) but to help devs to identify the problem and solve it...
- I was on LC1 stock GB rom rooted using Chainfire'SU(thanks to him for his work), with a 1% battery mod, nothing else as extra or tunning.
- To upgrade to the official LPY Stock Germany (downloaded with checkfus pc version) rom with the CF root kernel of Chainfire, i use my usal method: flash with mobile odin pro, enable everoot and inject mobile odin and wipe dalvik cache during flash process.
- At the first launch all apps were optimized by ICS before give me access to my phone.
After this sep, i applied under CWM this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473622
I has for effect to redo an installation optimization, as at the first ICS Launch.
All went fine and no problem at this step, just a few boot loop on the first start, the time to apply the SU Chainfire's update zip by CWM and install/re-update the stericsson busybox pro v1.20.0.
After this, no problem to tell you, just sometimes a lag screen when i want to clear somes notifications in the status bar aera (make vanish a few time the statut bar).
The Chainfire's 3D mod do not work with this rom, it is a know problem but it's just to say that the installation by CWM went fine too, as the SU app.
I resume: Install update package, wipe dalvik and battery stats (data not tested), fix permissions under CWM, and make nandroid backup give no problems to me...
The problem occur when i wanted to restore a nandroid ICS backup, the writing process fail at the system state...
I was unable to use my phone, blocked to the withe samsung logo (not the boot animation), juste able to acces to download and CWM modes.
So i put my phone in download mode and inject the same LCY STOCK firmware with pc odin 1.87, nothing else, just wait the end of the flash process and pray...
I restored my phone and my acces, to restore root i used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647148
I kept this method to re-inject Chainfire's SU after a second boot
At this step, i have the same configuration as with GB, without loss any data, except SU settings, adaway host files, just miss CWM manager 3.15 and mobile odin pro 2.35 (this one restored with Titanium Backup pro) as sytems apps.
A bootloop appear at this step, i used a new time the cleaning script to redo an initialization of ICS.
Reinstall with the first method to root the phone the chainfire's kernel (i think it is better for Chainfire's SU) and keeping in mind to not use the recovery writing backups function (proved as source of problem)
Reboot in CWM and wipe cache, dalvik cache, battery stats, fix permissions,
An error appeared in CWM, see log joined here. (this not the log from the failed restored operation before, afraid to redo the attempt)
Seems to be sucesfull, boot-loop killed.
At this step, i just need to re-define my lock-screen and the police (certainly due to the wipes i did)
My phone seems to be good at a new time.
My personal diagnostic is that is not a bug with the rom but with CWM wich is certainly not compatible.
The version in this tread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647148 seems to be most recent, maybe someone can test the nandroid restore function with this one... It should work but i know, it is easy to tell this...
If i have some news elements, i go back here to tell you.
I hope help devs and others with this post.
Sincerly.
If you read this thread more carefully you'll see that there is a warning!! so please do not test it!!
Update :
Due to rising numbers of phone being bricked based on rumors and stuff, I strongly suggest NOT trying to use any nandroid backup or restore on this CWM and it is best we keep CWM out of our devices to do major I/O stuff. So far I have never seen anyone bricked their devices on this small rooting/unrooting process but JUST DO NOT MAKE BACKUPS OR RESTORES!
See this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26037402&postcount=61
Welcome to the forum.
I completely agree with you.
There is problem with CWM recovery not stock recovery.
We still need expert opinion here though.
Btw you posted this in the correct section, this does not belong to the development section.
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Hello Master_Unit, seems CWM recovery is the culprit in all the cases.
I'm sorry to contradict you but stock recovery with rooted phone has the same potential danger as clockwork recovery.There is a minimal risk on operations with the recovery in special circumstances.Lpy firmware is safe but play with the recovery on ICS and Note should be done carefully
Trying to go back to Gingerbread
Had ICS via CW for a few days now, very unstable and a lot of my programs are having issues with this version of ICS.
How do I go back to gingerbread?
I also believe its a recovery issue on both stock and cwr. Maybe root is allowing access to some command it shouldn't or one thing not spoken about is radios ? Could there be a radio mismatch ? That would explain why only a small amount of people are effected. Whatever the case I consider myself lucky to wipe on lpy and live to tell the story. Let's hope there's a answer soon.
@proper158 please don't post off topic , SEARCH
proper158 said:
Had ICS via CW for a few days now, very unstable and a lot of my programs are having issues with this version of ICS.
How do I go back to gingerbread?
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Use PC Odin.
Back on ICS
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Use PC Odin.
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I reflashed it wiping out both caches in Mobile Odin. Ran a lot smoother but the battery would discharge 10% every 15-20 minutes. I just did a factory reset to see if this would resolve the issue.
I wanted to use Nova launcher, and although it looks amazing and feels really smooth, the snote widget doesn't work properly which is a deal breaker for me since I like to write quick post it notes on each of my home screens that are specific to each of my businesses. Not sure if they have a work around on this.
Hi, i've recently installed hydro 4.1 JB on my asus tf300, but now when i open asus customized setting the app block and go to home screen, i've tried to fix permission on cmw recovery but nothing, i need to change right mouse click, someone can help me plz?
Works fine for me, But I flashed using twrp, which I believe is recommended. If you haven't tried it, give it a spin, I used to be a cwm fan, but recently switched allegiances. Also, wipes were necessary for hydro 4 if you happened to miss that step. Good luck, its a rom well worth the effort
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same here. No problem.
Used TWRP and did a full wipe before flashing and fixed permissions after update.
mikaole said:
same here. No problem.
Used TWRP and did a full wipe before flashing and fixed permissions after update.
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ok i'm on TWRP Recovery 2.2.2.0 and i'm on Wipe Menu what have to do for full wipe now?
Edit:i've done full wipe, flash rom and fix permission but nothing when i go on setting and asus setting (to set right mouse click for example) setting app crash to home..any solution?
anthraxx90 said:
ok i'm on TWRP Recovery 2.2.2.0 and i'm on Wipe Menu what have to do for full wipe now?
Edit:i've done full wipe, flash rom and fix permission but nothing when i go on setting and asus setting (to set right mouse click for example) setting app crash to home..any solution?
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I tried the Hydro ROM the past weekend and had no issues outside of not being able to use the device as a Mass Storage location when connecting to my PC (still need to reflash to test some things out on that.) But for some help, I would suggest you give us a step by step on how you flashed and what files you used. There are two that are suggested (from what I can read). The base ROM, and then the Update A and Update B. If what I interpreted from what I read, the Update A is needed to bring the Base ROM to the lastest, and the Update B is for those already on the base ROM, though as I read what I just wrote here that seems kinda redundant. I'll have to go back and try to flash update A by itself and see if it contains the whole ROM and Update together.
Anyway, if you can just give some details on your device, the way you flashed, and the files used, we might be able to better direct why the settings are FCing on you.
-Nate
Using Hydro Ponic
You can get into trouble if you don't get the right install. With a fresh install of the base Rom, you install Update A. On a tf300 with Hydro Ponic already installed and previously updated, you just install the update B. It's possible to jump to the B update after just installing Base Rom but you might be missing some stuff - not surprising if Asus Cust Setting is not working. Always backup before you leap into the install - other wise you risk losing data as you scramble to bring things back into order - I know all about losing data. I use CWM and have never found it lacking, I'm sure TWRP works very well, it's just a preference and comfort level with a Recovery program that one gets used to. Pay close attention to the clearing or wiping of things in the following tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663244. The order of doings things is important and don't leave out a step.