Hello my friends,
Like you know, Opera Mini6.5 has been released a few day :
http://www.operamini.com/mobile/download/versions/
This version use Java bu, with these, we can having a new Browser that works with the new web stadard 'css3, html5,etc....)
I have tried to install and run on my HD2 with Java FX, and i have an error (cannot etablish Internet connection)
A friend, wh have a TG01 can run this browser with JavafX whitout probleme.
I have tried on Several rom, like Dutty, Ultrashot, and same problem.
Anyone have tried ?
Thanks a lot,
Best regards,
Nixeus
Would this not have to go to the HD2 forum and discuss there about JVM that may work on the HD2? Java FX is just one from Oracle - is there no other JVM that was delivered with the HD2 (usually it was the Esmertec JBed)?
Mind that some JVM do not utilize the Active Sync Connection of the device. They connect via radio access only - so if your device is connected to AS the access will not work.
First, some other WM6/6.x phone have the same problem.
Secondly, i have tested with Esmertec Jbed, and i have an exception at launch
Opera mini 6.5 (just installed) works for me on a Tornado with JBed 20080813.2.1 (aka JBed Rose as it came from the S740).
Usually nobody cares about JVM on WM anymore (who ever did anyway?).
Did any older version of Opera Mini work on that setup?
Does any other application with network access work on that setup?
The basic problem here is to make the JVM work right on the device - there is nothing HW or ROM (so XIP, OEM or SYS) related.
works fine on my blackstone with Sun Java FX.
you just need to set up correctly the internet connection on java before launching
Works fine on my HTC Diamond US with Esmertec JBed 20090416.5.1.
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I have been trying to use JSR-75 API for a J2ME application on my SPV M3100. It seems the PIM api is not on the phone :-( even though it is MDIP 2.0 and CLDC 1.1 compliant...
Firstly, it would be great if someone else could confirm this!!!! I have only found one other place on the net to verify it, so another few would help!
Secondly... has anyone managed to successfully use the JSR-75 PIM functionality on this device (or similar)? I have also installed the ibm J9 code, but this too did not give me access to the phone's contacts list, as I wanted
PHUH!
I am sure there is an easy answer to some of this and I m just missing a part of the puzzle
Many Thanks
Sanjay
If the Intent software doesn't support that JSR, then there's nothing you can do about it. The latest WM6 ROMs have a slightly newer version of MIDlet Manager, maybe it supports JSR-75. You could also try the version of Java that comes with NetFront.
Esmertec Jbed (as of version 20070622.2.1), prolly the best Midlet manager today (if you don't take the lack of 3D, direct links and proxies into account, in which Tao 11.1.x is still better), has stopped working yesterday (see for example the last few posts at http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=110939&page=3 for other user reports).
The reason for this is that it simply timed out in September - yeah, it was timebombed.
Does anyone have a Windows Mobile device sporting a newer, (still) working version? Or, does anyone want to cure the problem in some other way?
Im suprised no one has commented on this yet. For me, Opera 4 is THE way to browse the internet on a pocket pc, and no midlet manager did it better than Jbed mainly because it worked in fullscreen mode. While Tao's manager is okay, especially since the new beta 2 allows for the removal of the top and bottom red bards (pressing **), this is is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Ross
I too just ran into this problem!
megarek said:
Im suprised no one has commented on this yet. For me, Opera 4 is THE way to browse the internet on a pocket pc, and no midlet manager did it better than Jbed mainly because it worked in fullscreen mode. While Tao's manager is okay, especially since the new beta 2 allows for the removal of the top and bottom red bards (pressing **), this is is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Ross
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BTW, speaking of Opera Mini 4 beta 2, did you read my related review at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326368 ?
I've sent the Esmertec folks a mail asking whether they would make their Midlet manager purchasable.
Hope they DO consider this so that we won't have to rely on "hacking" it off other ROM's.
it is true in my wizard when i want to open the esmerc app it closes why for me that is better than java mannager of risidoro
Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 works now ok on Tao Intent Midlet Manager (not crashing it as Beta 1 did), so not a big problem for me...
Mirek
I'm using the Esmertec Java , Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1 with no problem
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I'm using the Esmertec Java , Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1 with no problem
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Esmertec Jeodek is vastly different from Esmertec Jbed. The latter is generally MUCH better. See the preview of my Midlet Bible if interested.
mirekluza said:
Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 works now ok on Tao Intent Midlet Manager (not crashing it as Beta 1 did), so not a big problem for me...
Mirek
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Jbed offers, among other things, seamless full screen (unlike Tao Intent); this is why it'd be great to make it work / being able to legally purchase it.
londere said:
it is true in my wizard when i want to open the esmerc app it closes why for me that is better than java mannager of risidoro
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BTW, as far as Tao Intent is concerned, check out the above-linked Opera Mini 4 thread; I've posted a lengthy excerpt on what ither Tao Intent versions there are from my forthcoming Midlet Bible.
In general, I recommend using the Russian builds over that of Risidoro, for two reasons:
1, they run off a storage card (and, therefore, store the deployed JAR files on a card too)
2, there's a vastly enhanced, "turbo" version of them.
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BTW, as far as Tao Intent is concerned, check out the above-linked Opera Mini 4 thread; I've posted a lengthy excerpt on what ither Tao Intent versions there are from my forthcoming Midlet Bible.
In general, I recommend using the Russian builds over that of Risidoro, for two reasons:
1, they run off a storage card (and, therefore, store the deployed JAR files on a card too)
2, there's a vastly enhanced, "turbo" version of them.
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Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1479183&postcount=13
It's right (it's his nick) posted a cab file of Jbed (but it doesn't work for me) on the bottom of this thread's first page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327080
For those really desperate on keeping their Jbeds (like me). Just move the time/date back to something before Sept 1, 2007 when starting Jbed. It will still work.
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It's right (it's his nick) posted a cab file of Jbed (but it doesn't work for me) on the bottom of this thread's first page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327080
For those really desperate on keeping their Jbeds (like me). Just move the time/date back to something before Sept 1, 2007 when starting Jbed. It will still work.
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Yes, then, it'll work. However, Opera Mini will complain of the date being too early and, then, refuse to work. (Other MIDlets will, however, work.)
Partial Fix by its right (maker of the TNT ROMs)
Found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1480902#post1480902
It's pretty much just a Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1.
I have tried the calendar reset and it works fine. Once the app is launched you can set the calendar back to proper date and jbed / opera mini continue to run. This should be the case until you close jbed / opera mini. At that point you would have to reset the calendar again. (so just leave the apps running)
I'm just curious. Is anyone else's "OLD E-Java" shortcut still working? Mine seems to still work, I had two versions the NEW-nowdefunct versoin and my OLD one. I was unable to use GMaIL with the OLD, but once I installed teh NEW version, I was now able to use Gmail on my OLD E Java. My new E JAVA doesn't work anymore , but the old one still works great with GMail and Opera Mini 4.2
Menneisyys said:
Esmertec Jeodek is vastly different from Esmertec Jbed. The latter is generally MUCH better. See the preview of my Midlet Bible if interested.
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The Esmertec Jbed is better??
Where can i get that version, please ??
The esmertec JVM (non jbed) still works without a hitch. Only problem is no full screen. It's the esmertec Jbed JVM that does not work any longer. As to which is better I have used both and the esmertec Jbed JVM blows the regular esmertec JVM out of the water.
I see. Well hopefully we can get the Jbed version working again, without a "timebomb" as some people have said.
WindowsMobile
bluecove on Windows Mobile
Introduction
Current BlueCove winsock (Microsoft Bluetooth stack) and WIDCOMM code are compiled for Windows Mobile.
Version 2.0.0 has been tested with following JVMs:
Mysaifu JVM v0.3.3 - An open-source (GPL v.2 license) Java VM on Windows Mobile 2003
IBMs WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment v5.7.2, CDC 1.0/Foundation 1.0/Personal Profile 1.0 for Windows XP/X86
IBMs WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment v6.1.1, CDC 1.0/Foundation 1.0/Personal Profile 1.0 for Windows XP/X86 and Windows Mobile 2003
IBMs WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment v5.7.2, CLDC 1.1, MIDP 2.0 for Windows XP/X86.
Windows Mobile devices with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack
Windows Mobile 2003 Phone Edition with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack
Motorola MPx220
E-Plus PDA 2
O2 XDA II (T-Mobile MDA-II)
Qtek 2020
Samsung SGH-i1300
T-Mobile SDA
Vodafone VPA II
I-mate JAM
Windows Mobile 5 Phone with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack
T-Mobile MDA
QTek 9100
Windows Mobile 5 with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack
Dell Axim X51v
Windows Mobile devices with WIDCOMM Bluetooth Stack
All other not listed above
JSR-82 Installation for IBM J9 on Windows Mobile
J9 for MIDP 2.0 Profile
Copy to bluecove.jar %J9_HOME%\lib\jclMidp20\ext directory
Copy intelbth_ce.dll or bluecove_ce.dll to %J9_HOME%\bin directory
run app "%J9_HOME%\bin\j9.exe" -jcl:midp20 -Dmicroedition.connection.pkgs=com.intel.bluetooth -cp yourMidpApp.jar "-jxe:%J9_HOME%\lib\jclMidp20\jclMidp20.jxe" yourMidpApp.jad
J9 for Personal Profile 1.0
Add bluecove.jar to your classpath
Add system property -Dmicroedition.connection.pkgs=com.intel.bluetooth when running your application to enable JSR-82 connections.
This LetS U Use J2me Bluetooth midlets
More InFo AND Downloads Here Tried It With IBM J9 and it works Now all we need is MMAPI 4 JAVA AND WE ARE HAppy WIf JAVA
http://code.google.com/p/bluecove/
Thanks, I give it a try to see how it works under J9.
BTW, what real-world MIDlets did you test it with? I've been testing it (6.1.1 on the Dell Axim x51v) with Blooover ( http://trifinite.org/trifinite_stuff_blooover.html ); it discovered the other BT devices but the subsequent attcking (as opposed to the Nokia N95, which runs the MIDlet just great) didn't work, unlike with Nokia's KVM. Tested this under both the MS and the Widcomm BT stack.
Just gathering the Nokia add-on classes so that I can also deploy 3D Constructo Combat (a great multiplayer game). Do you happen to know where these classes can be downloaded from?
Well Tried
I tried the super bluetooth hack it hacks and bctest.jar and as for the jsr 184 class library i havent found it yet i however f0und the location api and the comm plugin 4 j9 what i have gatherd each class library comes with a dll and a jar eg fileconn.dll and fileconn.jar so all we have to do is find jsr 184.dll with its jar maybe some developer can make some plugin by the way jsr 135 is offered by ibm but you gotta purchase it which is crap
defcomg said:
I tried the super bluetooth hack it hacks and bctest.jar
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Thanks, found them; I give them a try too.
defcomg said:
and as for the jsr 184 class library i havent found it yet i however f0und the location api and the comm plugin 4 j9 what i have gatherd each class library comes with a dll and a jar eg fileconn.dll and fileconn.jar so all we have to do is find jsr 184.dll with its jar maybe some developer can make some plugin
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Are you sure IBM has bothered to release a M3G DLL? They may not even know there are 3D game sout there...
by the way jsr 135 is offered by ibm
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Thanks for the tip; I'll update the MIDlet Bible with the info.
BTW, do you happen to know where the the Nokia add-on classes can be downloaded from?
java
how can i put java on the 8125 wizard os wm6 pro tnt 5.0
kevkev said:
how can i put java on the 8125 wizard os wm6 pro tnt 5.0
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read the MIDlet Bible in the Wiki
I D0nt Get Ya
What Nokia add on classes Maybe u Mean Nokia api check here http://www.microemu.org/ they talk about those api's but if you want to play or run midlets ment for nokia i think you would need to put com.nokia. into the jar you wana excute there was a 2D Multiplayer Game that would run on j9 i think it was Beach Rally 2 it came pre-defined on the nokia 6230 when n0kia introduced jsr 82 on S40 plattform. Is It Possible to embedd a JvM into the Win Ce 0s Like Symbian v2 and above So u can just Excute a jar like a exe from start menu
defcomg said:
What Nokia add on classes Maybe u Mean Nokia api check here http://www.microemu.org/ they talk about those api's but if you want to play or run midlets ment for nokia i think you would need to put com.nokia. into the jar
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Thanks, in the menatime, I've found them at http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/467061/Adapted.zip - working great.
defcomg said:
you wana excute there was a 2D Multiplayer Game that would run on j9 i think it was Beach Rally 2 it came pre-defined on the nokia 6230 when n0kia introduced jsr 82 on S40 plattform
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Updated the Wiki with the new info : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible
Samsung i900 Omnia supports JSR82
I have tried it and works great. I have tried to copy to my HTC Diamind but it does not work.
Maybe somebody more experienced on this area can make it work.
Regards
Thanks Menneisyys & Defcomg for the info regarding JSR-82 & Java support on Windows Mobile devices.
I'm trying to get a J2ME program working on WM5+ devices using the Bluetooth to connect to another device. The application works 100% on Nokia phones (I've tested it on a Nokia N95).
The installation of IBM J9 6.1.0 MIDP 2.0 with the BlueCove 2.1.0 Bluetooth stack onto a HTC TyTN II was actually quit simple. Eventually I did it a bit different from how it was described in the MIDlet Bible. I've installed the IBM J9 6.1.0 MIDP 2.0 (currently unable to get hold of the 6.1.1 eval version) by running the cab-file, added the bluecove-2.1.0.jar to the J9's \lib\jclMidp20\ext\ folder and extracted the two _ec.dll files from the bluecove jar-file to he J9's \bin\ folder.
On that HTC phone it wasn't necessary (using the MIDlet Bible as base reference) to copy the other 2 dll files or to remove the javax.microedition package from the BlueCove jar-file.
The device discovery works fine on it, although the service discovery still has some issues. Sometimes it discovers my external device's serial port service, but usually it doesn't. It even connects & communicates 100% with my external device using serial communication over BT. I have no idea why the service discovery fails most of the time. Sometimes I get it to work by disabling & enabling the BT before running the MIDlet. Any ideas? Is it possible to use BlueCove for the device discovery and connection & another BT stack for the service discovery?
I'm also using the same BlueCove-2.1.0.jar file along with the MicroEmulator on Windows XP/Vista and it works like a charm! Only problem that I've got there is that the MicroEmulator does not display the NetBeans TableItem.
Regards
Chris
Has anyone got this to work on the HD2?
Of course there are other ways to access Gmail, like the default mail application, and also with any browser.
But the java midlet is nice, very fast, have used it on other phones before, including Windows Mobile.
I installed it on the HD2, using the built-in Sun midlet manager.
It appeared to install fine.
However, when I try to launch it, I invariably get the same error message: "This program requires a working data connection. Please check your signal strength and connections settings and then restart the application".
No matter how good the data connection is, including with Wi-fi, I invariably get that same error message, when I try to launch the Gmail midlet. Anyone know what is causing that?
Has anyone been able to get it working on the HD2?
I've tried several different methods to get gmail applets to work and have been completely unsuccessful on both my HD2 and TP2, I was under the impression that they just don't have a 6.5-compatible version.
it does work, you just need to use esmertec jbed. however I found the fonts are so tiny its really difficult to use.
I end up setting the home page of opera mobile and pie both to m.gmail.com and logged in two of my most used gmail accounts.
sirphunkee said:
I've tried several different methods to get gmail applets to work and have been completely unsuccessful on both my HD2 and TP2, I was under the impression that they just don't have a 6.5-compatible version.
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I don't think it has anything to do with compatibility with WM 6.5. It has to do with the Java JVM that comes on the phone--from Sun.
As someone else wrote, one can install a different JVM, such as Esmertec JBED.
Surprising though, that Sun, the founder of Java, would not make sure that its mobile JVM is compatible with one of the most popular java phone apps. I wonder if Sun (and HTC) is aware of the problem?
In other respects, this version of the Sun JVM looks nice. For instance, you can choose to install each app to main memory or storage card. Good to have the choice. Also, you can turn off all permission-asking.
I tried Bolt Browser on it, also didn't work. I think it has a network problem.
me said:
I don't think it has anything to do with compatibility with WM 6.5. It has to do with the Java JVM that comes on the phone--from Sun.
As someone else wrote, one can install a different JVM, such as Esmertec JBED.
Surprising though, that Sun, the founder of Java, would not make sure that its mobile JVM is compatible with one of the most popular java phone apps. I wonder if Sun (and HTC) is aware of the problem?
In other respects, this version of the Sun JVM looks nice. For instance, you can choose to install each app to main memory or storage card. Good to have the choice. Also, you can turn off all permission-asking.
I tried Bolt Browser on it, also didn't work. I think it has a network problem.
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I guess that's what I was trying to say....after I started using 6.5, I never found a JVM that would work with the Gmail applet I had, that's all.
Hi,
I am learning to cook for legacy device HTC Prophet. I want to have my own base ROM, so I started with official WM 6.1 ROM from Kaiser (19214) and Elfin (19772). The OEM/Drivers was derived from the last official WM5 AKU 2.2 from Qtek S200.
Thanks to the wonderful community here, I was able to successfully port the XIP over and get my 1st booter. Everything seemed to work OK, bluetooth, GSM data/phone, Wifi, IR etc.
The only issue I have is Windows Live won't connect. I tried other SW, and they were OK with both EDGE data and Wifi (IE, SJPhone, OperaMini native, Jbed with OperaMini J2ME, PocketOutlook with Yahoo! emails etc.)
This happens with both donor ROMs, and it happens with both the Windows Live comes with the donor ROMs, or the CAB I downloaded from MS website. (to rule out RGU related porting issue.) Marketplace for WM6.1 won't connect, too.
I had tried searching for solution and there seemed to be similiar issue, but I wasn't able to get a solid solution.
I use BuildOS/PKGTool-based toolchain in my own commandline-based kitchen.