Hey guys, I've been using Windows Vista 32 bit 86x to do some of my theming work and APK(s) editing and I do not like how Windows is handling all of this. I've got way too much junk spread all over (tools, folders, editing programs, etc) to keep up with all this. I've been reading on Ubuntu and it is the programmer's choice in using to develop apps, themes, and editing APK(s).
I took the tour on Ubuntu and liked a lot of what I saw and thought it was perfect for app development and other stuff. No need to download so many stuff and end up losing track of most of your tools and such.
So, what I did was I did a factory image restore on my Dell Inspiron 1525 with Windows Vista 32 bit 86x and got rid of everything and saved important stuff on my external hard drive. Now I'm debating the use of Ubuntu as the sole system operation or installing along-side of Windows.
What would be necessary for me to do? I hate how Windows handles some of my work and don't see how it will benefit me in continuing my android app development and getting started.
I've also ordered a couple books on Android App Development and Java coding on Android platform. I'm in the process of trying to figure out what would be wise for me to do with Ubuntu here.
Any help is much appreciated. I will be using the books to help me step by step in developing app(s). But I'll take any tips that anyone is willing to give insight on!
just for app development i dont think a linux distro is needed.
if you are going into compiling kernels / compiling android sources you might need at least a VM with linux running afaik(but a full installation of a linux distro would be better i guess).
Personally, I wouldn't ever be without a windows machine. Ubuntu can do almost everything you'll ever need but you just never know when you might need to use a windows program that is not available for linux. So if your laptop is your only computer, I would dual boot for sure. If you have another windows machine, then I guess it doesn't really matter. But umm.. what exactly is your question anyway?
I'm just trying to get a better clarification for using Ubuntu and if it would be more wise to install it along-side Windows Vista (dual boot) or install it as the sole operating system instead of Windows Vista.
I do like Windows Vista for other things but it's been annoying trying to get it to work properly because some tools work better on Linux (Ubuntu).
Also, I had Java SDK, JDK, and latest version of Java on Windows Vista but from other threads or posts I've heard that the Java SDK Manager, along with Eclipse, work a lot better on Ubuntu. But of course there are other mixed reviews from others saying it works better on Windows Vista or Windows 7 (whichever they are using).
I always do research before I go doing something that has the potential of creating regrets (due to errors or not knowing much about this or that) or gets too confusing and become lost in reverting back to the way it was before I did something.
I do have a Windows XP Home Edition desktop (the latest one before Vista came out). Problem is it got the blue screen of death (doing memory dump) and I never really got it to recover from that. I wonder if the desktop Ubuntu disc can write over all that and make it work again, but only as a Ubuntu operating system?
I've always dual booted. Mostly because the games I play on my laptop are windows games. Keep this in mind, when you partition the drives. Linux can read NTFS/FAT, but windows has issues with ext. So don't worry about making a HUGE partition as ext for ubuntu. (I usually make a folder in windows on my c drive to send files back and forth). If you're using Ubuntu, you might want to look into using WUBI, makes installation a breeze.
it is no big deal at all.
it is better to have ubuntu run on the hardware not in VM.
you can have a dual boot
and install Eclipse and the plug-ins which will provide you will tools for android development.
Hi
Since a few days, I owned a new WeTab to play around with different tablet operating systems.
I'd like to install Windows 8, Android and Ubuntu in parallel and use the new GUI bootloader from Win8 to choose what to boot.
I started with installing Win8 and installed EasyBCD to modify the bootloader
A little test configuration shows the correct function of it.
When I start to intstall Android the fist time, everything was fine, but after installing ubunto the Windows 8 Bootloader turnd from GUI to text mode.
also
bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
common Win8DVD repairoptions
can switch back to GUI mode
is there a trick to get the GUI back, because without Keyboard on the tablet it's quite hard to select an option
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WeTab with 80GB SSD, 2GB RAM
Partition:
sda1 ntfs 350MB Windows Bootloader
sda2 ntfs 20GB Windows Partition
sda3 ext2 200MB /boot for Ubuntu
sda4 extended partition
sda5 swap 4GB /swap for Ubuntu
sda6 ext4 20GB / for Ubuntu
sda7 ext3 4GB / for Android
I don't have multiboot set up on my device, but apparently, setting Windows 8 as the default system in the bootloader will bring back the GUI bootloader, as that actually doesn't reside in the MBR, but is loaded after some very early parts of Windows 8 (presumably touchscreen support).
I don't think the MS bootloader will support doing that, but I'm not posative.
I have a triple boot working fine right now though.(Win8, vista, Ubuntu)
I had vista and Ubuntu installed, I resized my vista partition and used the free space to create an ntfs part, then installed win to the new part(sda2) Sda1 still has the MBR though. After installing windows 8 I lost grub(bootloader), so I used a live disk to boot up and run boot-repair which is a nice GUI to simplify reinstalling the bootloader, and also to configure it.
I left grub to default to Linux though you can tell it to default to win if you like in the options.
Now at boot I get menu from grub which allows me to choose to boot to either sda1, sda2, etc. If I want Ubuntu I choose it from grub, if I want win I choose the partition vista is on(cause that is the place win8 put it's loader. Once I select vita partition my system loads the win loader GUI that lets me choose between vista and windows 8. I would think you can do the same with grub.
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I left grub to default to Linux though you can tell it to default to win if you like in the options.
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you're missing the problem, without a GUI he cannot select a boot option because his tablet doesn't have an inbuilt keyboard!!
try installing windows and whatever else in a fashion that allows the GUI bootloader to stay, then install ubuntu to a partition but tell it to NOT install a bootloader, then try to setup "neogrub" from EasyBCD to boot it using the Windows 8 bootloader.
EDIT: in other words, don't add that "/boot" partition ubuntu loves so much, don't make an ubuntu boot partition, don't install grub, see if EasyBCD's Neogrub can work.
Thanks for the Reply's
I figured out that the light sensor on my tablet can be used as "Arrow Down"-Key so I'm able to use Texed based bootloaders.
However the Win8 GUI loader is nicer than the old school text based one. :-D
well, i had a quick look last night and you can indeed add the neogrub bootloader without losing the GUI loader, after installing neogrub using easyBCD you then just have to write a grub-ish bootscript that tells neogrub how to boot ubuntu, and then you can just touch Neogrub from the Gui bootloader and Neogrub will go straight to booting Ubuntu.
moved to general
I had the same problem and it got soleved by typing:
bcdboot C:\Windows
in an elevated command prompt, which will restore the default BCD settings for windows 8 and it will show the graphical GUI, you can then use bcdedit to do your required modifications because EasyBCD changes made me lose the GUI Boot...
Check this article for more info on restoring GUI Boot:
http://superuser.com/questions/4996...-8-gui-boot-loader-after-installing-windows-7
Hi, I'm wondering how to install desktop linux such as Ubuntu or Debian or Fedora onto this device, does anybody know how/ have tried it before?
Thanks!
I've been trying on my Note 1, most of it probably applies to Note 3 as well. I've been using it on my TouchPad for a while so that's where I'm basing my work. They're using a bootloader called kexecboot which is built into the initramfs of the installed kernel. The kernel has to be patched with kexec-hardboot patches. Then kexecboot can boot into a second level kernel by putting your zImage and initramfs in /boot directory of ext2/3/4 formatted SD card or internal memory. Build a kernel with the appropriate initramfs to boot from an Ubuntu filesystem on the SD card and boot it with kexecboot and you should be able to boot desktop Linux just fine. Ideally you'd put Linux on the SD card and leave Android on the internal and use kexecboot to pick Ubuntu or Android at boot time. I've gotten as far as booting the kexecboot program on my Note 1 but couldn't boot any kernels from it due to not having the kexec-hardboot patches. I haven't had much time to look into that and I broke my Ubuntu image that I was using on my TouchPad. Since TouchPad, my i717 Note 1, and the Note 3 N9005/N900T are all Qualcomm/Adreno devices you should be able to use the Freedreno open source GPU driver for X11 graphics acceleration.
Today i installed GIMP over the Play-Store. Works pretty well. Gimp runs with an emulated Xfce-Desktop. Only Gimp and Inkscape are installed in this emulator. Is there such an easy way to install a full linux that easy?
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Isn't there a project that's building a Mobile Ubuntu that runs on Android Phones?
I could be wrong, but I thought I heard something like that.
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Ubuntu Phone is Ubuntu in name only, it has a Debian style backend but runs all new Ubuntu Phone apps on an Ubuntu Phone UI. To run desktop apps you're still going to need desktop Ubuntu or at least hack Ubuntu Phone's backend by installing X server, desktop environment, etc.
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The first Ubuntu Phone runs out 2014. Yes, there is a project. But this is not my problem. I want to stay on Android and emulate Linux. Ubuntu Phone is a complete new Operating system. After the release this has to be extra developed for every smartphone.
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 / Stock-ROM / rooted / JB 4.3
Hi,
How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10?
Thanks
M. Al said:
Hi,
How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10?
Thanks
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You can use programs like Partition Magic
Maay gaad, I thought this is a tutorial thread
sure u have 3 hard disk with different Operating System (maybe)
Wondering
How it could be done.
zanodor said:
How it could be done.
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By partitioning your hard drive and then installing each operating system in each partition then use the Grub bootloader software to allow you to choose which of the 3 systems you want to boot when you power on.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-install-Linux-with-Android-and-windows-10-dual-boot-easy-way
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Hi,
You can also use Virtualbox or other virtualization software to create multiple virtual machine and RUN them on a single machine.
If your computer has good amount of RAM, then you utilize this Virtualbox software. It really works fine. Instead of creating different partition, i think it will be much better option.
Thanks,
Hope it helsp
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sure u have 3 hard disk with different Operating System (maybe)
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I am curious how to do it?
Saenyu67 said:
I am curious how to do it?
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You can use 1 hard drive or 2 hard drives or 3 hard drives, it works the same regardless of how many you use. It's easily done with just 1 hard drive. If you look at my previous post a few posts back in this thread, you will see a link with instructions to partition your hard drive to create a partition for each of the OS's that you want to install, then you install each operating system in each separate partition that you choose to install them in.
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How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10
Windows booting is a simple process. You can easily boot your windows 7 OR Windows 10
you can useing some free tools for booting window 10 and windows 7.
I can explained here how to boot a drive easily. I think it will benefit you. For than messege me personally.
Thank you very much.
mdakashhossain said:
Windows booting is a simple process. You can easily boot your windows 7 OR Windows 10
you can useing some free tools for booting window 10 and windows 7.
I can explained here how to boot a drive easily. I think it will benefit you. For than messege me personally.
Thank you very much.
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You don't understand what they are trying to do.
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for android, you can use "bluestacks" on windows
So you want to use Windows 10, Windows 7 and Android on PC. For that first create 3 or 4 partitions one for windows 10, one for windows 7 and one for android. Install Windows 10 and Windows 7 on separate partitions and you will see that you have a option to boot into windows 7 or 10. now to install Android use a android based OS such as Prime OS and install it on a separate partition. You can use the pre installed grub or you can use grub2win to get all operating systems that you need
mdakashhossain said:
How to make a PC Triple Boot Android, Windows 7 and Windows 10
Windows booting is a simple process. You can easily boot your windows 7 OR Windows 10
you can useing some free tools for booting window 10 and windows 7.
I can explained here how to boot a drive easily. I think it will benefit you. For than messege me personally.
Thank you very much.
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Hey there I'm also interested in this I currently have garuda Linux and can't get Windows 10 on
I've done this for a while, my easiest solution is:
1. Make 3 or 4 partitions. Windows 10, windows 7, data partition, and a Linux partition. (There may more created e.g. a system partition). Dont touch the data partition throughout all of this except for storing your OS ISO, liveboot ISO, other program files etc.
2. Install windows 7 on windows 7 partition.
3. Install windows 10 on windows 10 partition. Can be installed from windows 7. Let windows handle making a windows bootloader which can now boot into windows 7 or 10.
4. Create a live USB in ine of your windows. I've been using Ubuntu but used Fedora for years prior. If you aren't sure if you need x64 then go woth the 32 bit x86 architecture (useful to be able to boot on 32 and 64 bit machines). Now boot up your live USB into Linux and install automatically onto Linux partition. You'll now have a GRUB bootloader which can boot into Linux or into your windows bootloader.
5. Install android emulator. I used Linux as I felt I would get better performance emulating android in Linux, this may or may not be true.
There will things that you might find as a nuisance, for example when I boot into windows 7 from windows 10, I need to boot into the GRUB to windows bootloader, select windows 7 and it reboots again back into GRUB and then into windows 7. Not a big deal unless you want to switch OS a lot. If this is the case, you may want to just emulate to begin with. I have a laptop with *ok* processor and RAM, not the best for emulating another OS.
There is many options - you could even install Linux within windows if you so choose. Ultimately the best path will be based on your knowledge, specs of your PC ( power, ram, disk space, disk type [fora mount of partitions], BIOS/UEFI, etc. The method I laid out is the most automated and easiest method I have come up with. Don't try installing windows on top of Linux, you'll cause a headache fixing everything for your Linux system. But then again, everything I've done in Linux the hard way has helped me to understand Linux better. I've just found that even laying out all of the partitions manually for Linux can be challenging, especially if you only have 1 computer and your data is not backed up elsewhere. Start with a blank machine if you can, and have another computer on hand, then you'll have an easy time starting over if necessary. Theres still so many more options of how to do what you are asking... good luck and happy tripple booting
Flash-ARMy said:
I've done this for a while, my easiest solution is:
1. Make 3 or 4 partitions. Windows 10, windows 7, data partition, and a Linux partition. (There may more created e.g. a system partition). Dont touch the data partition throughout all of this except for storing your OS ISO, liveboot ISO, other program files etc.
2. Install windows 7 on windows 7 partition.
3. Install windows 10 on windows 10 partition. Can be installed from windows 7. Let windows handle making a windows bootloader which can now boot into windows 7 or 10.
4. Create a live USB in ine of your windows. I've been using Ubuntu but used Fedora for years prior. If you aren't sure if you need x64 then go woth the 32 bit x86 architecture (useful to be able to boot on 32 and 64 bit machines). Now boot up your live USB into Linux and install automatically onto Linux partition. You'll now have a GRUB bootloader which can boot into Linux or into your windows bootloader.
5. Install android emulator. I used Linux as I felt I would get better performance emulating android in Linux, this may or may not be true.
There will things that you might find as a nuisance, for example when I boot into windows 7 from windows 10, I need to boot into the GRUB to windows bootloader, select windows 7 and it reboots again back into GRUB and then into windows 7. Not a big deal unless you want to switch OS a lot. If this is the case, you may want to just emulate to begin with. I have a laptop with *ok* processor and RAM, not the best for emulating another OS.
There is many options - you could even install Linux within windows if you so choose. Ultimately the best path will be based on your knowledge, specs of your PC ( power, ram, disk space, disk type [fora mount of partitions], BIOS/UEFI, etc. The method I laid out is the most automated and easiest method I have come up with. Don't try installing windows on top of Linux, you'll cause a headache fixing everything for your Linux system. But then again, everything I've done in Linux the hard way has helped me to understand Linux better. I've just found that even laying out all of the partitions manually for Linux can be challenging, especially if you only have 1 computer and your data is not backed up elsewhere. Start with a blank machine if you can, and have another computer on hand, then you'll have an easy time starting over if necessary. Theres still so many more options of how to do what you are asking... good luck and happy tripple booting
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Yes, exactly what I was indirectly suggesting. I've done it the way you describe before, but, alternatively, you can just create 2 partitions on your hard drive then install Win10 and Win7 in those partitions then create a Linux live USB or even install a full Linux distro on a fairly large USB flashdrive/external hard drive(preferably something that has solid state storage, this enables faster booting and performance and allows installing drivers and packages) and then go into BIOS and set your boot priority to boot from USB first, save changes and exit. Then, when you want to boot Linux you just connect your external drive/USB then reboot the device and it will automatically boot Linux without having to use grub and when the Linux drive isn't connected you will be able to boot 10 and 7 via windows bootloader. A little more round about but makes booting back and forth between operating systems.
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Yes, exactly what I was indirectly suggesting. I've done it the way you describe before, but, alternatively, you can just create 2 partitions on your hard drive then install Win10 and Win7 in those partitions then create a Linux live USB or even install a full Linux distro on a fairly large USB flashdrive/external hard drive(preferably something that has solid state storage, this enables faster booting and performance and allows installing drivers and packages) and then go into BIOS and set your boot priority to boot from USB first, save changes and exit. Then, when you want to boot Linux you just connect your external drive/USB then reboot the device and it will automatically boot Linux without having to use grub and when the Linux drive isn't connected you will be able to boot 10 and 7 via windows bootloader. A little more round about but makes booting back and forth between operating systems.
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I had a project to run Windoes 10 on an SD card, which proved to be more difficult than I tbought it would be. I didn't think it should have been difficult, but it seems software amd hard tales measures to prevent this from being possible / "easy". Linux is quite easy to use a live USB, so I've done that quite a bit (I'd keep a 32 bit live USB on my Keychain). I don't think I was ever able to update drivers or install updates to the live USB, however I didn't make much of an effort too. I basically used it as a save my ass tool, which it certainly did come in useful quite often in the course of my personal/school/work computer needs.
Flash-ARMy said:
I had a project to run Windoes 10 on an SD card, which proved to be more difficult than I tbought it would be. I didn't think it should have been difficult, but it seems software amd hard tales measures to prevent this from being possible / "easy". Linux is quite easy to use a live USB, so I've done that quite a bit (I'd keep a 32 bit live USB on my Keychain). I don't think I was ever able to update drivers or install updates to the live USB, however I didn't make much of an effort too. I basically used it as a save my ass tool, which it certainly did come in useful quite often in the course of my personal/school/work computer needs.
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Instead of installing Linux live on USB, you can do a full installation of Linux on the USB the same as you would when installing Linux on hard drive. A Live USB can be setup with a persist partition to provide a bit of storage on the USB but it isn't enough to do anything with that is useful, that is why it is better to just install the distro on USB instead of using USB to run Linux live.