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[Q] Gorilla Glass?

Anyone know how scratch resistant the Epic's screen will be?
If its weak, I'd like to manually try and replace it with Gorilla Glass.

Manually replacing the glass sounds kind of risky!

You should realize that gorilla glass and products like it are much more brittle than standard glasses. While it can with stand scratches, it doesn't favor well in drops and impacts to it. Why not just use an invisible shield or other protector? Much cheaper and easier.

Trying to replace a screen that's made for the phone with a screen that's NOT made for the phone isnt gonna be easy or pretty.
when it comes to a drop/impact that would shatter or splinter the screen, it either will or won't. Having a case and protector on the screen helps. But if its from more than 2 feet, most likely the screen will shatter regardless of the type of glass.

My Hero has survived far more of its fair share of 5 foot falls onto asphalt with only minimal scuffing to the plastic case, there are no screen cracks, and no screen scratches either. If the Epic 4G is anything similar, it should be fine with both. Although I would like to note that, at least for me I would worry more about problems with the keyboard after the phone has been dropped, as was the case with my Touch Pro. Just my 1.9 cents.

kennethlongshaw said:
Anyone know how scratch resistant the Epic's screen will be?
If its weak, I'd like to manually try and replace it with Gorilla Glass.
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One of the benefits of super amoled is that the screen is attached to the plastic/glass cover. It eliminated the dust and glare problems but it would most likely be impossible to replace it.

USAF22 said:
My Hero has survived far more of its fair share of 5 foot falls onto asphalt with only minimal scuffing to the plastic case, there are no screen cracks, and no screen scratches either. If the Epic 4G is anything similar, it should be fine with both. Although I would like to note that, at least for me I would worry more about problems with the keyboard after the phone has been dropped, as was the case with my Touch Pro. Just my 1.9 cents.
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One of the great things about the HTC "chin" phones is that it's impossible to directly impact the screen on a flat surface like a floor or sidewalk without completely breaking the phone open. That's how it is on my G1, at least. Say what you will about the aesthetics, but I find that to be fantastic practical design.

When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.

TripleAgent said:
When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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I'd love to see this, if only for the entertainment value.

TripleAgent said:
When I went to the T-Mobile store to see their version, they intentionally dropped it and banged the screen HARD like 5 times to demonstrate how tough it was. Not a scratch. I wouldn't worry about screen durability.
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It's gonna suck when it breaks infront a of a customer...
Or if people find out it's a dummy phone

chococrazy said:
It's gonna suck when it breaks infront a of a customer...
Or if people find out it's a dummy phone
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Not gonna happen...they sell the display phone they drop to the customer ..lol jk....
Overall though I had plenty of LCD phones and I dropped them..threw them from room to room and never had any damage...I remember at one point I dropped my phone every day for like 6 months..but then again maybe I'm one of the lucky ppl :/

Take a look at the Galaxy S brutal tests and judge for yourself.
Warning: you might flinch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68&feature=related

Flinch indeed!!, I thought " The Cove" was bad.

What's with all the gorilla glass stuff lately? As previously said gorilla glass isn't suitable for the Epic 4G because of the Super Amoled display, on top of this Gorilla glass is very scratch proof but at the sametime it's not meant to be dropped.

Sebrina said:
What's with all the gorilla glass stuff lately? As previously said gorilla glass isn't suitable for the Epic 4G because of the Super Amoled display, on top of this Gorilla glass is very scratch proof but at the sametime it's not meant to be dropped.
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The next version of super amoled samsung promises is indestructible..so get your chainsaws ready

Glass
Yep its tuff glass

WTH would you bump a 7 month old thread?

My Epic fell out of my pocket screen first onto a rock when I was getting out of my car a few days ago and didn't have a scratch/crack or anything on it.
The silicon case, however, got chipped.

As long as he did, I wanna say I'm pissed at how easily my Epic screen scratched. Weak.

Does froyo make the glass faster?
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display shield

is there any need of display shield on galaxy s?

mosd said:
is there any need of display shield on galaxy s?
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I don't use one and haven't needed one.
Maybe if you carry your phone in the same pocket as your keys, or like dialing with the point of a bayonet....otherwise I see no need.
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rschenck said:
I don't use one and haven't needed one.
Maybe if you carry your phone in the same pocket as your keys, or like dialing with the point of a bayonet....otherwise I see no need.
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okej thanks m8 do u have nay scratch?

This has been thoroughly discussed in the accessories section.

I have the Zagg Invisible Shield and i like it. You can't notice it on the screen exept if there is sun like a lot of sunlight on it, but you do feel like a bit of a plastic everytime you tuch the screen, i mean it is not that smooth to the feel, but the phone registers your touch every time with no problem.

I use one I got from bestskinsever.com (I think), its great. Takes a little getting used to the texture as you're obviously not touching bare glass anymore but it definitely does the job well, no discolouring or marks on my phone since using it

Why use a Display Shield when you have a Gorilla Glass onboard?
To be, or not to be: that is the question!

you don't need a screen shield
the glass is harder than the shields
i tried to scratch it with keys and it just can't be scratched

a firend of mine did it. and why not be on the safe side if you can?

havent used a screen protector since i bought the phone about 8 months ago
i havent got any visible scratch on the screen. not even under the sun
maybe when i use a microscope, then yes, but mmm.. im not going to

Had mine bare for 8 months as well and the screen still looks perfect, and trust me I'd notice any significant blemishes. Just the other day I wiped it clean and looked under bright light and could only see a couple of near-microscopic scratches.
A shield would ruin the feel IMO. I just keep out in its own pocket and hold it tight.
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I prefer having one than not too... I had one so far and know that i removed i see i'd rather have one on for extra protection. After all Gorilla glass can be scratched too (although it's not easy to scratch it). I'm on the "better safe than sorry" side but for others who are very careful with the phone i would just suggest a case!

It is not neccesary for scratches but it may help to protect the screen from shattering when you drop it..

Coolgreek said:
I prefer having one than not too... I had one so far and know that i removed i see i'd rather have one on for extra protection. After all Gorilla glass can be scratched too (although it's not easy to scratch it). I'm on the "better safe than sorry" side but for others who are very careful with the phone i would just suggest a case!
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the force that is needed to scratch this glass would also scratch it past one of the screen shields
screen shields are useless for this phone, they just make it look uglier... and in some cases like zaag they also add a rubbery feel which ruins the smooth experience

I've had mine in my pocket with a hand full of screws an no scratch on the display
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only if you drop a Hello Kitty cookie jar lid on it from 6" up in air. Friend did it and shattered the glass somehow. Hence forth he has a Hello Kitty skull/crossbones on his car window
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to be honest it's unnecessary but for me it's annoying to wipe my screen everytime it gets dirty, and with a screen protector it doesn't smudge as easily

I took off my screen protector and now have a scratch. Its only visible if you switch off display and see the screen under a bright light. The back cover really needs some protection cause its a scratch magnet.

Gorilla Glass is resistant to everyday scratches, like from dust particles and carrying it in your pocket and things like that. No screen is resistant to high force impact.
I've had my Galaxy for over a month now and the display glass is still pristine (and I use it in differrent environments)! I had a Desire which was durable to some extent as well, but I managed to scratch its screen somehow. This phone? No problem whatsoever.
The plastic casing, however... the back cover has visible "signs" of usage

Strangely enough I have had some mixed experiences with gorilla glass.. My own galaxy GT-i9000 went 2 weeks and the screen was fine.. then i decided my fingers had grubbed it up a little too much.. took my cleaning cloth for my glasses and went to work only to find i had basically put hairline scratches over the whole screen.. Not terrible mind you but noticeable under bright lights or on low screen brightness..
On the other end of the scale I convinced a friend to get the galaxy s also.. Walking down a dirt road, he tripped while holding the phone and it slip maybe 5 meters down the dirt.. not a single scratch.. the plastic was a bit tarnished though from bouncing around.

guess what happens when you drop your S2 face down on a gravel road

I dropped my GS2 on a gravel road from about chest high, glass side down. I picked it up and the screen was completely dusty and horrible looking and I said UhOh. I got a microfiber cloth and wiped off the phone after blowing as much as possible of the screen. Got it all wiped off, and in direct sunlight at every angle, not a single scratch, blemish, pit, nothing lol. I have a slim gel on the phone, but the screen is naked. Whew!

Cool!
Peep peep.

It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.

I liked that someone experimented with Gorilla Glass

Swore I was going to read chest pains followed by back to back heart attacks until death.
Glad to hear it's ok.

Xero Xenith said:
It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
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WINNING ^^

Yeah I decided to forego the cases and the screen protectors after seeing some videos (not produced by screen protector sellers).
I was using Reallook but it got to slimy and even carrying the phone in my pocket with keys, only the plastic edges gets a little nicked. My Captivate's screen never had a scratch and I am the most un anal person when it comes to worrying about scratches on the body of the handset. Under everyday conditions the glass really is scratch resistant and I would say scratch proof in a pocket with keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dw04tNgpA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WRQuvaA4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxj6gRYwS0&feature=related

I was expecting more from this thread.
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread

Sp1tfire said:
I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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+1. Dropping your phone to confirm its.durability is not big or clever.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.

budco2000 said:
yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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Gorilla glass is good stuff......The "screen protector" makers are so scared of it they are posting questionable videos on YouTube of how "easy" it is to scratch. "fear" is a great advertising tactic and sells a lot of things. In fact the glass is amazingly resistant to scratching.
I would be more worried about the interior circuitry shock on a drop than the glass.

As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.

You are very lucky. Its a different story if you drop it in the sea or fall in with it in your pocket
Put it this way I've got a very expensive piece of gorilla glass for a coaster. Ohh and a spare battery that I'm too scared to use :-(
I must admit I got a zagg invisishield screen protector and it is awful. Wonder why they bothered ohh try money.
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!

iridium84 said:
I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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Yeah Thats what I am talking about....The glass is like Pyrex...maybe even stronger. The interior parts are the issue with drops. That's where those thick soft silicone cases help out but I don't care for cases as the ones that could really protect the phone make it too bulky and the thin cases are a waste and only prevent scratches and nicks around the edges. I don;t worry about those. Never used the same phone for more than a couple years if that long. The back cover can be folded in half and if ever needed replaced easily.

Croak said:
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
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That's nonsense, they scratch just as easily as the sgs2, I will let you decide how easily that is since most htc devices also use gorilla glass

[Q] tab 7.7 Screen scratched

So today I pull my tab out of my bag (its I'm its own compartment with microfiber lining) and it has a scratch right in the middle of the screen!!!
The worst part is its deep enough to feel with your nail and it's dispersing light thru it so its very noticiable ..
Anyone got a fix for this? Going to try toothpaste tonight but I think its deeper than that can fix...

i watched from Youtube that banana can fix scratched CD.. not sure if it works on tablet screen. You have not put on screen protector or a case? I am getting a good case for it, planning to buy 7.7

i don't want to get into the whole screen protector argument lets just say no local retailer had one and I wasn't trying to be a tuff guy and not run one, all my devices have a screen protector from day dot but there were none available at the time.
Anyways ... toothpaste didn't work at all...

I would try out Novus #3 followed by Novus #2 - I've used them for pinball playfields for years with good result.
You should be able to get it from where you can get pinball parts, and probably from a bazzilion other places on the net.

UgloBuglo said:
I would try out Novus #3 followed by Novus #2 - I've used them for pinball playfields for years
You should be able to get it from where you can get pinball parts, and probably from a bazzilion other places on the net.
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Thanks mate I'll give that a try tomorrow. It makes me sad to see this scratch..

and i was about to use my p6800 without a screen protector so apparently it means that the p6800 doesn't have a anti scratch proof screen like the note and sgs2 ?

geogetski666 said:
and i was about to use my p6800 without a screen protector so apparently it means that the p6800 doesn't have a anti scratch proof screen like the note and sgs2 ?
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It really is amazing that it could get such a deep scratch in the screen. Like I said I never usually take risks with the screens of my devices and I usually sell them in as new condition after a few month's. (I'm a tech slut)
That said I am really dissapointed in the performance of the glass and can bet it was a single grain of sand that caused it.
I'm going to try fix it tomorrow and I hope I can because the alternative is to sell it at a medium loss with the scratch..

Ran the novus. No.3 over the scratch for about 10mins and it seems to be working. It has taken the edge off the scratch and i now cannot feel it with my nail.
Ill do other for another 20 mins tonight and see how it goes.

kawasakijosh said:
Ran the novus. No.3 over the scratch for about 10mins and it seems to be working. It has taken the edge off the scratch and i now cannot feel it with my nail.
Ill do other for another 20 mins tonight and see how it goes.
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Good luck.. i have a crazy scratch on my htc flyer if this works ill def give it a rry... my p6800 came with a screen protector from the hongkong merchant i got itnfrom as a bonus so didnt have that risk... hope it turns out well.
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if the scratch is really deep, you have a problem but try to polish it as much as you can with the methods the other users mentioned. Afterwards make sure to get the antiglossy screenprotector on the display because it will make it harder to spot the scratch.
good luck!

Glass on Tab7.7
Dropped my tab7.7 and the glass shattered.
Of course its my fault and I accept that, but I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed. Its by far one of the softest drops any of my mobiles have had and yet it completely shattered. Never had this before on any of my mobiles even in really extreme drops e.g. down stairs
Anyway I thought to myself that its possibly due to the larger surface than other mobile screens as well as perhaps just a "perfectly bad" fall. Not sure. But still disappointed.
But after reading this I started wondering what type of glass they used. is it gorilla glass?

maansleroux said:
Dropped my tab7.7 and the glass shattered.
Of course its my fault and I accept that, but I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed. Its by far one of the softest drops any of my mobiles have had and yet it completely shattered. Never had this before on any of my mobiles even in really extreme drops e.g. down stairs
Anyway I thought to myself that its possibly due to the larger surface than other mobile screens as well as perhaps just a "perfectly bad" fall. Not sure. But still disappointed.
But after reading this I started wondering what type of glass they used. is it gorilla glass?
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Yes, supposedly Gorilla Glass... but that doesn't mean it's diamonds.. -_-

Wizard8125 said:
Good luck.. i have a crazy scratch on my htc flyer if this works ill def give it a rry... my p6800 came with a screen protector from the hongkong merchant i got itnfrom as a bonus so didnt have that risk... hope it turns out well.
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so ran the no.3 and no.2 over it tonight with a variable speed dremel and it worked like a charm. I'm just going to buy some autoglym glass polish as the novus finishing polish is still abit dull.
Screen is perfect on and off now. They only way you can tell is with the screen off and shining I direct light on it you can see the dull patch.
Its now going to stay at home until I can get a good screen protector for it O

maansleroux said:
Dropped my tab7.7 and the glass shattered.
Of course its my fault and I accept that, but I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed. Its by far one of the softest drops any of my mobiles have had and yet it completely shattered. Never had this before on any of my mobiles even in really extreme drops e.g. down stairs
Anyway I thought to myself that its possibly due to the larger surface than other mobile screens as well as perhaps just a "perfectly bad" fall. Not sure. But still disappointed.
But after reading this I started wondering what type of glass they used. is it gorilla glass?
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sad to hear mate. The amount of work that went into getting that one scratch out pretty much confirmed to me that its gorilla glass.
Let me know how you go for quotes for replacement screens as I couldn't find any...

I'm a longtime adherent of the Glass Gorilla, but this thread put the fear of God in me, so I went right out and bought a screen protector. On this device (my others remain nude), I'm only experiencing one drawback: The Gorilla is totally oleophobic, whereas this screen protector quickly shows some finger smudging. It's actually better than most I've tried, but still.
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It is better to use a screen protector.

I'm actually not convinced. I can't find it written anywhere official that the 7.7 had the same type of glass as its cousins. Can anybody confirm that it's gorilla glass? Maybe Samsung was like Apple and decided to go with their own variety of hardened glass instead of trusting the ape.
The reason i have my doubts is that i had a galaxy s in my pocket for a year with no scratches at all (i don't like screen protectors or cases); today i found a small but deep scratch right in the middle of my 7.7's gorgeous screen. I've had it less than a week!

Yep, I am also interested wether the p 6800 has gorilla glass, but could not find any concrete answer. I sure hope it does, as I'm not a big fan of screen protectors an I am very careless with my devices...
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poopoo said:
It is better to use a screen protector.
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I guest screen protector doesnt have any effects regarding "dropped" issue ... just prevent your screen from scratch
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been using mine and tucked in front of a hedgren utopia messenger bag for 2 weeks now and haven't had a scratch on mine hope it stays that way really hate using screen protectors since gorilla glass came out haven't used a single screen protector on my phones and really don't like to use one

Screen protection

Hi, ive all ways had a screen protector fitted to my phone but it does need replacing as it absorbs the daily use. Can anyone provide their experience of the gorilla glass resistance to every day use using their phone without a protector.
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Had my phone from the beginning and have never had a screen protector. My screen has endured over its life and it could pass as a brand new screen. This phone is designed to be durable. IPhone tender care is not needed
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Put new screen protector on your phone. Gorilla glass is just good marketing. Can be easily scratched by speck of dust under your finger. About dropping on hard surface (rocks, grit...) is pointless to speak of.

kenrw7 said:
Hi, ive all ways had a screen protector fitted to my phone but it does need replacing as it absorbs the daily use. Can anyone provide their experience of the gorilla glass resistance to every day use using their phone without a protector.
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this question/topic has been discussed at least 50 times before and the result is always the same.
-some people never use them and claim no scratches
-some people didnt use one and claim scratches
-and some people (like me) would never use a phone without one
its pointless to go over this issue again. for every yes there will be a no.

Thanks for all the constructive comments I've decided to side with caution and buy another batch of screen protectors. After all they are relative cheap and offer a front line level of sacrificial protection.
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bweN diorD said:
-and some people (like me) would never use a phone without one
its pointless to go over this issue again. for every yes there will be a no.
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I have them on every device I use, including my Ipods, and even Garmin GPS. I'd rather be safe than sorry. The only one that suffers a little from the protection is the N7.

I have owned my phone since September 2012. Been using protector maybe 2/3 to 4/5 parts of the time. It is the sensible thing to do. Peeled it off months ago as it did began to bug me a little due to 'oily smearing'. Also I figured the 'end life' of the device I would want is as nice as possible. No accidents or detrimental effect seen so far. It Seems possibly a little more durable than I originally thought. That said I am glad had it on so long to minimize risk and will surely use one again as soon as I get a new phone at some point... Also I think there is a very big difference in people's perception of 'normal daily use'. I am generally very careful with my more expensive gadgets (phone included).

If someone wish to scratch the screen, just take some sand and spoil with the finger over the screen.
Warning, this will most probably scratch your screen!

Didn't have one on initially but the wife and 2 young children seem to think black rectangles are hockey pucks. A few small scratches on the glass later i've started keeping a protector on it. I prefer the glass directly but better to have a scratched and replaceable piece of plastic than the glass thats a pain to replace

vipthomps said:
Didn't have one on initially but the wife and 2 young children seem to think black rectangles are hockey pucks. A few small scratches on the glass later i've started keeping a protector on it. I prefer the glass directly but better to have a scratched and replaceable piece of plastic than the glass thats a pain to replace
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Black circles and black rectangles are pretty similar.

I don't see why you would need a protector. My screen has only one little scratch, and you can't even see it unless you look at the screen off with a really bright light.
Best experience with a screen I ever had. And I'm not just talking about durability. The colors and definition are truly remarkable.

i use liquid screen protector it hardens as like a layer of plastic over the screen

I hate the feel of SPs and never use them...had this phone since release and only have a small faint scratch that's only visible when the screen is off, other than that no issues...small price to pay for the responsiveness I require.
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