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Does the stylus scratch the screen?
Do you guys think that a screen protector is necessary or advisable?
And if it is advisable, will it affect the stylus and finger performance?
interesting question, as the current word on the street is the Note doesn't have Gorilla Glass...
i doubt it would though- but that's only my assumptions..
as its Anti-scratch resistant screen .i don't think the s-pen will scratch the screen but it more like in long term it possible when you put in your pocket with coins or keys , that would scratch the screen it i think.
my old phone was anti scratch screen too but still got few scratch on it from the house keys and coin in my pocket
ps btw i am using the note without screen protector.
I've always gone naked on my phones; no screen protector and no case. I can't stand the extra bulk/film. Even back in the days of windows mobile 5 and 6 with HTC phones that had PLASTIC screens that actually deformed under the stylus pressure, I didn't have scratching issues. I've always kept my phone in my left pocket (upside down with screen facing leg for quick and easy retrieval in the proper position) with NOTHING else in the pocket.
I've never understood the screen protector thing. For the most part manufacturers make the screens much harder and more abrasion resistant than any plastic film you'll find in a screen protector. I saw a guy yesterday using some Verizon droid with a screen protector that was scratched and foggy, and all I could think is "WTF, he wants to protect his screen so it doesn't get scratched up, decreasing visibility and looking ugly, yet that's exactly the experience he's receiving!" Lame. Sometimes people need to think about the big picture. If you're going to sell your phone in a couple months and are paranoid, that's one thing, but otherwise I think they're a total waste.
I still have the factory protective plastic sheet over my screen and my stylus works fine. I'm waiting for my screen protector to come in the mail before I remove the factory plastic.
I have always used cases and screen protectors on my phones. When it came time to sell my old phones, they are still in immaculate condition, like the first day I bought them. I am always able to get the maximum resale value out of my phones.
I think screen protectors is a good investment if you want to maximize the resale value of your phone
I have a screen protector on my note and it doesn't effect the performance of the stylus. It also doesn't leave any scratches on the screen protector so I am guessing it shouldn't leave any on the screen as well.
Overall performance , it's great and loving every minute of my new toy.
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I've never understood the screen protector thing. For the most part manufacturers make the screens much harder and more abrasion resistant than any plastic film you'll find in a screen protector. I saw a guy yesterday using some Verizon droid with a screen protector that was scratched and foggy, and all I could think is "WTF, he wants to protect his screen so it doesn't get scratched up, decreasing visibility and looking ugly, yet that's exactly the experience he's receiving!" Lame. Sometimes people need to think about the big picture. If you're going to sell your phone in a couple months and are paranoid, that's one thing, but otherwise I think they're a total waste.
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If you put it on right, you can't even tell it's there. You wouldn't be able to tell that I had a screen protector on my captivate unless you looked at the edges, no fog, no bubbles, no dust.
The thing about screen protectors is... if you DO get a big scratch, you are scratching an inexpensive easily replaceable component as opposed to the expensive and very difficult to replace pane of glass fused to the LCD and housing.
Even though Screen Protectors can prevent the screen being scratched, it does also make the screen look less vibrant.
all my previous phones i had screen protector on but i decide that i go without on the note this time ^_^
ps. i just put 32gb card in and loaded ton of movies on it. oop sorry out of topic, lol
I was going to ask whether the seemingly strong screen would hurt the thin plastic S-Pen.
I never used a screen protector on previous phones, but I just ordered one for the Note. After only a couple of days use, I have several noticeable scratches on the screen - I would say that it scratches easily (these scratches are not from the stylus, haven't even used that yet).
I would think that the pen would suffer in sensitivity with a screen protector.
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There is a stylus made of a rubber tip, its called GRIFFIN , you can get it from ebay
Hope this helped ya ;-)
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I ordered one of these from amazon yesterday:
Vikuiti screen protectors CV8 (quantity: 2) for Samsung Galaxy Note - PREMIUM QUALITY (ultra-clear, scratch-resistant, high adhesiveness)
Vikuiti is the strongest and best true clear screen protectors around from what I have read - I will report here when I receive my shipment.
took my note yesterday play a fruit ninja with stylus... whole screen protector get scratch..
To those who have installed a screen protector, have you guys noticed any performance loss with the stylus?
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I was going to ask whether the seemingly strong screen would hurt the thin plastic S-Pen.
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cred0021 said:
I never used a screen protector on previous phones, but I just ordered one for the Note. After only a couple of days use, I have several noticeable scratches on the screen - I would say that it scratches easily (these scratches are not from the stylus, haven't even used that yet).
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I've had scratches on mine too, but I wiped them off with a tissue.
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I've had scratches on mine too, but I wiped them off with a tissue.
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Paper's never a good thing to use for wiping clear stuff (phone screens, glasses, etc.) Wood pulp, which they use to make the paper, contains tiny bits of silica which will scratch those types of items. The scratches may be very small, but will build up over time. Fabric is always a better choice; the inside of my t-shirt is what I use most of the times on my sunglasses and phone screen.
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There is a stylus made of a rubber tip, its called GRIFFIN , you can get it from ebay
Hope this helped ya ;-)
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I still have the factory protective plastic sheet over my screen and my stylus works fine. I'm waiting for my screen protector to come in the mail before I remove the factory plastic.
I have always used cases and screen protectors on my phones. When it came time to sell my old phones, they are still in immaculate condition, like the first day I bought them. I am always able to get the maximum resale value out of my phones.
I think screen protectors is a good investment if you want to maximize the resale value of your phone
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I manufacture cases for phones.
But before then and now I don't use cases, and beat the living daylights out of my phones.
This makes me financially stupid, and you smart (no sarcasm, truly).
However, I'm perhaps living a more chilled life.
Do you use them on your tablet?
I do.
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I do.
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Same here, the screen is too valuable on the tab to get scratched imo ...
I've ordered this one for my SGS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWR2GO/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
The review I've read was saying it was pretty good, barely noticable, wich is a must considering a big plus on samsung's products are the screen.
I'll see if it's worthy, if it is, I'll order this one for the tab:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TJV_2?ie=UTF8&m=A1E9T6XPH2ITJV&n=&s=&v=glance
(anyone has it already?)
I had one on originally, but got the newton rings and sent it back. I never bothered putting one on my new tab. I actually much prefer the feel of it without the screen protector. I have a case that covers the screen when I'm not using it, so I feel the risk of scratching is minimal. The protector just felt sort of rubbery, while the bare glass feels really smooth and slick. Could be the brand of screen protector. But I don't see much of a benefit of putting one on at this point.
But I do have 4 kids, so maybe you don't want take my advice on using supplemental protection...
Yep, don't feel right unless i do. I use a zagg from best buy, since they have never died on me.
Nope, I just use the official Samsung "book cover" case. Why would I want to cover such a sexy, smooth glass screen with a piece of plastic?
I did, and took it off weeks after. No matter what protector you use, it will diminish the quality of the screen. I tried the Zagg and BodyGuardz and when I took them off again, I realized that the screen is too sexy to be hindered. It's Gorilla Glass people; it doesn't scratch that easily. I have my tablet with a TPU case and I have no scratches so far. Just be careful where you put it and you're good to go.
I'm a huge fan of Matte finish anti-glare screen protectors. My tab is sporting one, so is my Galaxy S2...other protectors just get covered in fingerprints as well as not having one on... you should try it. Some people like them some don't... IMO best type of screen protectors.
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I've had mine since they first day that Samsung sold the Tab and have never used a screen protector. Not a single scratch or mark on the screen.
Tablets are different than phones. Generally people chose a case that closes over the screen. It's not like you're going to put it in your pocket and get the screen scratched by your keys.
If your case doesn't close to cover the screen or you don't use a case all the time then it might be recommended to use a screen protector. Otherwise the only thing that should come in contact with the screen is your finger or a stylus. Unless, of course, you drop it.
I have had mine since launch with no screen protector and no scratches. It might be a question you have to ask yourself, as far as how much wear and tear will your tab see? It's not like a phone I keep in my pocket and carry everywhere (although I do take my tablet just about everywhere) that can get scratched by keys and the like.
+1 on matte protectors. Also, get a full body protector (sides and back are not scratch resistant!)
I, personally, can't stand the matte ones. It makes the screen look too grainy
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I use a bookcase and screen protector. I usually take care of my electronics but somehow I managed to get some small scratches on my screen. I am not sure if they came from using my dagi stylus or from the cloth I use to wipe it with (dry booger perhaps). If you plan on using a stylus I would go for a screen protector. I am currently using one from Belkin but wouldn't really recommend it. I applied as pr instruction but it has an oily look to it. I spoke to their customer service and they said they would send me a new one but haven't received it yet (2 weeks).
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I, personally, can't stand the matte ones. It makes the screen look too grainy
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I love matte ones but again the rainbow effect annoys me, so I found this SGP Ultra Fine - they advertise it as NO RAINBOW effects (link)
Does anyone here uses this and know it to be true or know if any other screen protectors do this?
I'm quite annoyed at the fact that the screen isn't oleophobic, attracts too many fingerprints !
Cheers
Never used them on SGS or Tab. Screens still look as good as new.
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Nope... I have the Samsung case which protects the tablet well and as others have said it's Gorilla glass, so it doesn't scratch easily. The screen is too nice to cover it up.
I also don't have one on my sgs2 which is always in my pocket (nothing else in the same pocket) and it doesn't have any scratches after about 7 months.
I really question the use of cases and screen protectors for phones... In 2-3 years you are likely gonna change phones anyway... Why rob yourself of the smoother and better looking screen? So that it's still in good shape when you get rid of it? ? ? I'd rather enjoy the phone to it's full potential while I use it with the risk of getting scratches than keeping it in pristine shape for when it ends up in a drawer or in someone else's hands.
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Nope... I have the Samsung case which protects the tablet well and as others have said it's Gorilla glass, so it doesn't scratch easily. The screen is too nice to cover it up.
I also don't have one on my sgs2 which is always in my pocket (nothing else in the same pocket) and it doesn't have any scratches after about 7 months.
I really question the use of cases and screen protectors for phones... In 2-3 years you are likely gonna change phones anyway... Why rob yourself of the smoother and better looking screen? So that it's still in good shape when you get rid of it? ? ? I'd rather enjoy the phone to it's full potential while I use it with there risk of getting scratches than keeping it in pristine shape for when it ends up in a drawer or in someone else's hands.
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Many times 2-3 years is a longer time than I think is actual. More like 1-2.
But on point, because a device without scratches on on the screen can bring twice as much used than one with scratches.
Just my two cents.
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Phantom Skinz....
The shop that i bought my tab from didnt recommed it.
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I've got a ton of scratches that are pretty deep all over my Nexus 4 that have been appearing since I got the phone. My last phone was an Atrix and after dropping it a few times I never cared to take that good of care with it and it has only very small scratches, none of which near as deep as the scratches I've been getting on the N4 which I take extremely good care of. I was one of the first to receive the Nexus 4. Is it possible that I got a bad phone or has the whole "bad batch" thing just been tossed around? I'm thinking of calling Google and asking but I would like input before that. Maybe I'd prevent wasting someones time... but if this thing really is defective in some way I would like a replacement.
I have the same problem as you. I've only dropped the thing once and I've always stored it in a pocket alone and yet I have tons of scratches all over. So much for gorilla glass. Let me know if you do call what the results are!
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The front of mine is still perfect after two weeks. The back has the protector on still and somehow there is a scratch near the camera.... I'm worried about taking it off until I get my case. Here in Toronto the only way to get a case for it is online shopping... My original case order was cancelled and I got scammed in the process so I had to order a new one that'll come in about a month -_-
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Seriously? You're gonna call Google and tell them what? You scratched your phone...not Google -_-… they didn't make the glass.
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Serious_Beans said:
Seriously? You're gonna call Google and tell them what? You scratched your phone...not Google -_-… they didn't make the glass.
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Did you read the post? Yeah I'll call them out if I get enough people saying they think it could be defective. I've seen a couple threads where people were saying they sent it back for scratches. I'm pretty much asking if people think there was a chance of actually having a defective device and if so could the glass be effected by that.
Glass is glass. It isn't a defect in your phone, you've just had bad luck with the phone and probably sand or other fine particles coming into contact with it.
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Pics or it didn't happen
i noticed scratches the 2nd day of use so i called Google and they sent me a replacement
1. It's glass. A single speck of sand will scratch it. It's glass.
2. Because it is glass, you would have been wise to invest $6 in a noninvasive front and back body skin to protect it. You don't think you need it, until you realize you did.
3. It isn't defective and Google won't help you.
Nospin said:
1. It's glass. A single speck of sand will scratch it. It's glass.
2. Because it is glass, you would have been wise to invest $6 in a noninvasive front and back body skin to protect it. You don't think you need it, until you realize you did.
3. It isn't defective and Google won't help you.
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1. You didn't have to say "its glass" twice
2. I purchased many different screen protectors and all of them where very annoying. This screen was especially designed to be super smooth and it is super oleophobic. Why ruin the experience with a screen protector?
3. I've heard of people saying that they could be defective and scratched too easily so and they even got an RMA. The person above you seems to have gotten one for the screen scratching. I have had cheap phones that I have taken horrible care of that have no scratches on their screen. I have also heard of people taking awful car of their nexus 4 and talking about how durable it was and how it still has no scratches. I've babbied this thing and had a screen protector on it through November to middle December. This all leads me to believe tat something is not right with the screen.
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As you say yourself, the glass on the Nexus 4 is meant to be oleophobic, which means that the glass is covered with an oleophobic coating, which scratches more easily than glass would. You just have to be even more careful with it.
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Chrono_Tata said:
As you say yourself, the glass on the Nexus 4 is meant to be oleophobic, which means that the glass is covered with an oleophobic coating, which scratches more easily than glass would. You just have to be even more careful with it.
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What? The Oleophobic layer is what makes it more scratch resistant. Friction is what causes scratches and if there's less friction then it lessens the possibility of scratches.
I swear people like to talk crazy stuff sometimes. I've had my phone for over a month now (ordered Nov 27 and received Dec 6th). The back of my device is perfectly scratch free now and i'm pretty gentle with my device as well. Dunno wtf you people are doing with your phones but I have no case or anything either and it's perfect still.
Err, no. The oleophobic layer is made of softer material than glass, so obviously it's going to scratch easier. Making something more slippery doesn't make it less easy to scratch.
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Umm NO, here's the word straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/COR_GG_WhtPaper_Easy-to-Clean.pdf
Go to page 4.
Abrasion Resistance
Scratch resistance was found to be an added benefit of the easy-to-clean coating on Corning Gorilla Glass. Test samples
comprising 1/2 coated and 1/2 non-coated regions were tested by wiping across both surface areas with 150 grit silicon carbide
sand paper, using the crock meter, for 40 passes (back and forth) at ~1.5 PSI. Surfaces were then tested for haze to determine the
degree in which optical appearance of scratches was mitigated. Figure 3 shows an optical photo of such a sample, exhibiting
significant scratching on the non-coated region whereas few visible scratches exist on the coating. Figure 4 demonstrates this
effect further, plotting haze for coated and non-coated glass regions and for chemically strengthened soda-lime glass.Test
conditions also showed a significant benefit for Corning Gorilla Glass over soda-lime glass (50-60% improvement), and further
benefit for the easy-to-clean coating (additional >75%).
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ADDING the oleophobic coating helps the glass to be more scratch resistant as well as the fingerprints and all that jazz too. Gorilla glass itself is tough but adding that layer helps protect the surface of the Gorilla Glass making it more scratch resistant.
If you want more info, go look up XDA TV and learn something or 2 as well. There was a girl (forget her name now) that explained gorilla glass for her Note 2 device in which she mentioned this as well with more details.
Ahhh found her, it's Erica:
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
OP, I agree that we shouldn't have to ruin the experience of the phone for the sake of everyday use. I've never had screen protectors and very rarely get scratches while living a fairly active lifestyle.
So far I've not had any scratches on the screen, even cycling with the phone in my pocket. I have been happy with the scratch resistance so far and would compare it to other phones of similar quality.
The back glass has not held up nearly as well, despite sharing the same pocket/conditions. I have a few hairline scratches, particularly over the nexus logo and unfortunately over the camera. My guess is that this happens while pulling the phone in/out of pocket and that is why they are clustered over the logo area.
I'm not sure how much a call to Google will do, can there be quality problems with glass that would cause some to scratch worse than others? QA issues causing breaking seem more likely. To answer your question though, I've not been babying the phone (well, maybe a little) and don't have a hint of a scratch on the screen after a month.
I don't think you can RMA it for scratches after having it for 2 months but it doesn't hurt to call and all they can do is say no.
I myself have no scratches, I should add yet here, and I received mine on November 27th. But it has never seen the inside of my pocket, I bought a belt clip case immediately that it sits in if I'm out and about. IME Pockets are too dangerous as my phones always ended up getting scratched in my pocket because I dropped change in there or put my keys in there by mistake.
I did finally put a screen protector (skinomi) on the front after about a month but I'm not happy with it, it does ever so slightly ruin the experience especially since it is too soft and gets marks in it and it has a dull look to it. But I'm being more than anal about watching out for scratches with this phone as it was an investment. Eventually I'm sure I won't give as **** anymore and start treating it like any other phone but right now paying $400 for a phone still stings a little.
Thanks for the links and I stand corrected. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, most users found that the display tends to get scratched more than other non-oleophobic glass so it was just generally assumed that the coating was the culprit. Obviously from Corning's documents this isn't the case with Gorilla Glass and their oleophobic coating.
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I've got a ton of scratches that are pretty deep all over my Nexus 4 that have been appearing since I got the phone. My last phone was an Atrix and after dropping it a few times I never cared to take that good of care with it and it has only very small scratches, none of which near as deep as the scratches I've been getting on the N4 which I take extremely good care of. I was one of the first to receive the Nexus 4. Is it possible that I got a bad phone or has the whole "bad batch" thing just been tossed around? I'm thinking of calling Google and asking but I would like input before that. Maybe I'd prevent wasting someones time... but if this thing really is defective in some way I would like a replacement.
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Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
VoiD_Dweller said:
Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
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+1 ... haven't dropped or scratched my phone. Using a bumper and a rearth slim for the first couple of days of having it.
hope i didnt jinx myself just now
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Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
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So did you read the post? That's exactly my point, I do take really good care of it. Now (again go read my posts) I did have an Atrix before this phone and tossed it around quite a bit and it has hardly any scratches that are as deep as the ones on the nexus. The only scratches it has are around the edge and can only be seen in the sunlight. I owned the Atrix for almost two years and never had a screen protector for it. I've owned this phone for only months, and its only gone one month without a screen protector. It seems new scratches appear each week and I'm doing everything to prevent them. It just makes no since why it would be collecting so many scratches in just a small amount of time.
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I don't think you can RMA it for scratches after having it for 2 months but it doesn't hurt to call and all they can do is say no.
I myself have no scratches, I should add yet here, and I received mine on November 27th. But it has never seen the inside of my pocket, I bought a belt clip case immediately that it sits in if I'm out and about. IME Pockets are too dangerous as my phones always ended up getting scratched in my pocket because I dropped change in there or put my keys in there by mistake.
I did finally put a screen protector (skinomi) on the front after about a month but I'm not happy with it, it does ever so slightly ruin the experience especially since it is too soft and gets marks in it and it has a dull look to it. But I'm being more than anal about watching out for scratches with this phone as it was an investment. Eventually I'm sure I won't give as **** anymore and start treating it like any other phone but right now paying $400 for a phone still stings a little.
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Just so you know, neither keys or pocket change will scratch your phone, its sand and the glass particles in dust you want to worry about.
I have just received my nexus 4 today and I have kept the screen protector on it for now - is it worth getting a proper one?
I used one on my one s but got fed up after noticing a degradation in screen quality so I just took it off. It also got really oily which bugged me a bit.
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Depends how anal you are with screen protection. I have a BSE on mine and don't notice any degradation.
I also have a screen protector on mine and notice no real degradation in screen quality. My protector can get oily at times (especially if you take a lot of phone calls and put it against your face) but its nothing a microfiber cloth won't fix easily. Worth it to me, as I'm very anal about scratches on my display. Those you can't wipe off with a rag.
I noticed a few scratches after I took it off my HTC but it didn't seem to be noticeable when the screen was on. Shouldn't bother me too much if I do get any.
How much did that BSE one set you back? Was looking on Amazon and a pack of 3 is around £6... Probably won't be the best quality.
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You should always have a screen protector no matter what screen you have.
Avoid pregnancies, use protection.
Edit: I meant to avoid scratches..
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You should always have a screen protector no matter what screen you have.
Avoid pregnancies, use protection.
Edit: I meant to avoid scratches..
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Some people just like the way it feels without protection.
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Some people just like the way it feels without protection.
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And that is where babies come from.. I mean, scratches.
I use the one from sedieoonline. Honestly the best protector I have tried. Its a dry application. Feels just like the original screen and doesn't have the orange peel look afterwards. I'll prob never use another brand again.
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Never used one on any of the phones I owned and never had any scratches on the screen. Guess I was lucky or very careful how I was handling them.
well i have a 2.5 year old desire that i religiously used screen protectors with, the phone slid screen down off a motorcycle when it fell out the mount and got dropped onto every side/corner possible i dont know how many times, although the top and bottom corners of the bezel are scratched and dented the screen is still unmarked,
im not taking chances with the nexus 4, i ordered screen protectors the same day as i ordered the phone,
so far its landed face down twice and the screen protector has a decent chip into it which you can feel with your fingernail but the screens fine, in my opinion the protector has done its job and will be replaced for another tomorrow,
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I have just received my nexus 4 today and I have kept the screen protector on it for now - is it worth getting a proper one?
I used one on my one s but got fed up after noticing a degradation in screen quality so I just took it off. It also got really oily which bugged me a bit.
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Well, as far as I'm concerned the Nexus 4 has Gorilla Glass 2 in the front (not quite sure about the back, as I've heard it scratches quite easily) so I wouldn't worry that much about scratching it... but keep in mind that it is glass so scratches still happen. I would suggest to look around in the "The Best Screen Protector Thread" in Nexus 4 Accessories to see what users have to say. Anyways, your phone will always be safer with a screen protector on, but if you really don't want to use one then just use a case with raised edges to prevent it from touching any surface...
Just my two cents :silly:
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Well, as far as I'm concerned the Nexus 4 has Gorilla Glass 2 in the front (not quite sure about the back, as I've heard it scratches quite easily) so I wouldn't worry that much about scratching it... but keep in mind that it is glass so scratches still happen. I would suggest to look around in the "The Best Screen Protector Thread" in Nexus 4 Accessories to see what users have to say. Anyways, your phone will always be safer with a screen protector on, but if you really don't want to use one then just use a case with raised edges to prevent it from touching any surface...
Just my two cents :silly:
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Yeah thanks, I'll have a look and see what I can find, just don't want to be spending silly money on one!
I know that gorilla glass is pretty hard to scratch, but its inevitable at the end of the day... I heard that its tiny grains of sand from dust or whatever that scratches it.
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So i really want to see if the screen protector is causing my touch issues as shown here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fijZt9-B0
But don't want to rip it off if its not going to fix the problem. Can anyone confirm whether or not this is the case?
Bit the bullet, ripped off the screen protector, all my touch screen issues have been alleviated!!
Screen protectors are a myth. I have a nexus 7 2013 and S4. Been without a screen protector for months on both, not a single scratch. Hell, the S3 I gave my wife (and she ain't as careful with hey phones as I am), not a single scratch. The fortified or gorilla glass on modern devices work quite well under normal conditions. Don't be doing extreme sports or outdoor activities with your N7 and you will be good.
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Yeah, I probably won't be wasting any more $$ on screen protectors in the future. Pointless having it on there if causes the device to function improperly
I never had touch issues on my N7. Also, never used a screen protector on any of my devices.
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Screen protectors are a myth.
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So, 3 data points and you draw a conclusion for every device out there? Awesome stuff.
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So, 3 data points and you draw a conclusion for every device out there? Awesome stuff.
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If these three data points have the one thing that ALL modern devices contain, ala Gorrila Glass® then yes, it is a completely valid conclusion.
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LoopDoGG79 said:
Screen protectors are a myth. I have a nexus 7 2013 and S4. Been without a screen protector for months on both, not a single scratch. Hell, the S3 I gave my wife (and she ain't as careful with hey phones as I am), not a single scratch. The fortified or gorilla glass on modern devices work quite well under normal conditions. Don't be doing extreme sports or outdoor activities with your N7 and you will be good.
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Actually, I would like to believe that. However, the scratched up screen on my old G2X (Gorilla Glass) begs to differ with you. Within ONE WEEK of getting my Nexus 4, it had a small scratch on the screen. I put a screen protector and haven't looked back. My N7 now has a screen protector as well.
Thing is, they're scratch RESISTANT not scratch PROOF. If you're getting no scratches, then great. You don't have a source of sand made of harder minerals than Gorilla Glass. A lot of us aren't so lucky. Dirt around here apparently does have "hard sand" in it, so the slightest bit of dirt in my pockets, and the screen gets scratchy. Thus, screen protector.
Many people don't like screen protectors because of lousy installation. Properly applied screen protectors should be invisible. Getting one properly applied can be troublesome. I watched a friend of mine buy the expensive ones at T-Mobile and had the rep do it. He had no clue what he was doing, and tried to pass one off on them with DEBRIS under it claiming that would go away on its own. They made him redo it again, and the second time, the edges were damaged and ugly where he put his fingers all over it. I have properly applied ones on my phone & N7, and you can't even tell they're there unless you look closely at the edges.
Making a blanket statement based on nothing more than your own personal experiences that screen protectors aren't necessary is hardly scientific or valid. Maybe for you, they're not necessary. Some of us are a bit more OCD about not having scratches on our screens and choose to avoid that with screen protectors.
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Actually, I would like to believe that. However, the scratched up screen on my old G2X (Gorilla Glass) begs to differ with you. Within ONE WEEK of getting my Nexus 4, it had a small scratch on the screen. I put a screen protector and haven't looked back. My N7 now has a screen protector as well.
Thing is, they're scratch RESISTANT not scratch PROOF. If you're getting no scratches, then great. You don't have a source of sand made of harder minerals than Gorilla Glass. A lot of us aren't so lucky. Dirt around here apparently does have "hard sand" in it, so the slightest bit of dirt in my pockets, and the screen gets scratchy. Thus, screen protector.
Many people don't like screen protectors because of lousy installation. Properly applied screen protectors should be invisible. Getting one properly applied can be troublesome. I watched a friend of mine buy the expensive ones at T-Mobile and had the rep do it. He had no clue what he was doing, and tried to pass one off on them with DEBRIS under it claiming that would go away on its own. They made him redo it again, and the second time, the edges were damaged and ugly where he put his fingers all over it. I have properly applied ones on my phone & N7, and you can't even tell they're there unless you look closely at the edges.
Making a blanket statement based on nothing more than your own personal experiences that screen protectors aren't necessary is hardly scientific or valid. Maybe for you, they're not necessary. Some of us are a bit more OCD about not having scratches on our screens and choose to avoid that with screen protectors.
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All do respect, but what are you exactly doing with your devices? I know full well that these devices are not meant to be rugged by any stretch of the imagination. I treat them very gently. I'm just as OCD about scratches as you are. That's why I take the upmost care of these costly devices and treat them very carefully.
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LoopDoGG79 said:
Screen protectors are a myth. I have a nexus 7 2013 and S4. Been without a screen protector for months on both, not a single scratch. Hell, the S3 I gave my wife (and she ain't as careful with hey phones as I am), not a single scratch. The fortified or gorilla glass on modern devices work quite well under normal conditions. Don't be doing extreme sports or outdoor activities with your N7 and you will be good.
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Once your screen meets any small amount of sand and your screen has micro scratches you may change your tune. It's OK to go without a protector if you don't mind these hardly noticeable scratches, or the feel of the glass when the oleophobic coating finally starts to wear off. However, for those of us who want to avoid this problems, a good screen protector goes a long way. I know that when I resell the device that it will be in mint condition. Besides, a decent, properly installed protector will be unnoticeable.
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LoopDoGG79 said:
All do respect, but what are you exactly doing with your devices? I know full well that these devices are not meant to be rugged by any stretch of the imagination. I treat them very gently. I'm just as OCD about scratches as you are. That's why I take the upmost care of these costly devices and treat them very carefully.
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All "due" respect.... if you research Gorilla Glass you will see that it has nothing to do with "rugged". It has to do with if the material that contacts them is harder than the coating, they WILL scratch. Keys/etc are softer and in theory won't scratch it. However, many of the minerals in common sand/dirt are HARDER than the coating. So even a tiny bit of dirt can cause scratches. If you don't have that problem, then you keep an exceptionally clean environment, and/or the dirt in your area doesn't include those harder minerals.
Do not presume how another person does or does not take care of their devices. I am EXTREMELY careful with my devices. The fact is, gorilla glass CAN scratch. With my G2X, it was most likely when I was doing gardening and fished my phone out with dirty hands a few times, leaving dirt in my pocket that then scratched the screen. These things happen. Thus, you take precautions. You could either NOT ANSWER YOUR PHONE without washing your hands first - or you get a screen protector. The scratch on my Nexus 4 I have no idea how it happened. It happened right after I bought the phone, and is almost invisible but is there.
My devices tend to look in very good condition even after lengthy use. But even the smallest of scratches on the screen bother me as I'm a bit OCD about it.
lotherius said:
All "due" respect.... if you research Gorilla Glass you will see that it has nothing to do with "rugged". It has to do with if the material that contacts them is harder than the coating, they WILL scratch. Keys/etc are softer and in theory won't scratch it. However, many of the minerals in common sand/dirt are HARDER than the coating. So even a tiny bit of dirt can cause scratches. If you don't have that problem, then you keep an exceptionally clean environment, and/or the dirt in your area doesn't include those harder minerals.
Do not presume how another person does or does not take care of their devices. I am EXTREMELY careful with my devices. The fact is, gorilla glass CAN scratch. With my G2X, it was most likely when I was doing gardening and fished my phone out with dirty hands a few times, leaving dirt in my pocket that then scratched the screen. These things happen. Thus, you take precautions. You could either NOT ANSWER YOUR PHONE without washing your hands first - or you get a screen protector. The scratch on my Nexus 4 I have no idea how it happened. It happened right after I bought the phone, and is almost invisible but is there.
My devices tend to look in very good condition even after lengthy use. But even the smallest of scratches on the screen bother me as I'm a bit OCD about it.
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K fine, you win. I'm drunk right now, no need to go grammar nazi on me.
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lotherius said:
Actually, I would like to believe that. However, the scratched up screen on my old G2X (Gorilla Glass) begs to differ with you. Within ONE WEEK of getting my Nexus 4, it had a small scratch on the screen. I put a screen protector and haven't looked back. My N7 now has a screen protector as well.
Thing is, they're scratch RESISTANT not scratch PROOF. If you're getting no scratches, then great. You don't have a source of sand made of harder minerals than Gorilla Glass. A lot of us aren't so lucky. Dirt around here apparently does have "hard sand" in it, so the slightest bit of dirt in my pockets, and the screen gets scratchy. Thus, screen protector.
Many people don't like screen protectors because of lousy installation. Properly applied screen protectors should be invisible. Getting one properly applied can be troublesome. I watched a friend of mine buy the expensive ones at T-Mobile and had the rep do it. He had no clue what he was doing, and tried to pass one off on them with DEBRIS under it claiming that would go away on its own. They made him redo it again, and the second time, the edges were damaged and ugly where he put his fingers all over it. I have properly applied ones on my phone & N7, and you can't even tell they're there unless you look closely at the edges.
Making a blanket statement based on nothing more than your own personal experiences that screen protectors aren't necessary is hardly scientific or valid. Maybe for you, they're not necessary. Some of us are a bit more OCD about not having scratches on our screens and choose to avoid that with screen protectors.
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The. G2X had gorilla glass 1. The N4 has gorilla glass 2. The N7 2013 has gorilla glass 3. They made a huge leap forward with scratch resistance with version 3. Unless you're taking your device to the beach, there's no need to waste money on screen protectors.
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