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Sony Ericsson and ANT+ equals fitness with Xperia™ arc
Marcus Hansson explains more about ANT+.
At Sony Ericsson we are very pleased to announce that we will be the first mobile handset manufacturer to have integrated support for ANT+ technology. This means that you will be able to use your Sony Ericsson phone with a large number of commercial health and fitness products. For example, you can use your phone with a heart rate monitor, a pedometer, or both, when you are out running.
There are number of different ANT+ enabled sensors and devices available in the market today. In addition, there are a large number of ANT+ supported apps to collect, analyze, compare and share your data in various ways. These devices and apps can turn your Sony Ericsson handset into a main hub for fitness and health activities, as well as for communication and entertainment.
ANT+ is a seamless and reliable digital wireless communication standard with excellent power efficiency. It facilitates the collection, automatic transfer and tracking of sensor data for monitoring information. Today more and more companies are joining the ANT+ Alliance, which is a partner alliance striving for the growth of the ANT+ ecosystem. This ensures compatibility with other leading suppliers all throughout the ecosystem. With the release of Xperia™ arc, Sony Ericsson is the first handset manufacturer to have integrated support for ANT+. The ANT+ support will also be introduced in Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X8, Xperia™ X10 mini, and Xperia™ X10 mini pro through software upgrades in Q1 2011. Several future Sony Ericsson Android™ devices will also support ANT+ technology.
Stay tuned to the Sony Ericsson Developer blog and to Sony Ericsson’s Developer World for more information. You can also read more on the ANT+ web site.
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Source: The Sony Ericsson Blog.
As said in the video, "… and X8 will have this enabled in the forthcoming software upgrade in Q1 2011"
Could this be part of an Android upgrade? Or do they by "software upgrade" refer to apps? Either way, it's a cool feature.
We need 2.3 for that so we will get android update.
I think because this writing in SE blog.
Yeeeee they are chance that we will get 2.3 but when?
Who cares .. it's completely useless and sony will not deliver froyo on their phones.
Anyone still owning xperia, google "ZTE Blade" :
1. unlocked bootloader
2. froyo and custom roms
3. amoled screen
4. costs $100
Oh, and the best one :
5. NOT MADE BY Erics****!
no froyo for Xperia!
as-mario said:
We need 2.3 for that so we will get android update.
I think because this writing in SE blog.
Yeeeee they are chance that we will get 2.3 but when?
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Do you mean that Ant+ requires Android 2.3 to run? Because of Xperia ARC, which uses 2.3 to run Ant+?
racht said:
Who cares .. it's completely useless and sony will not deliver froyo on their phones.
Anyone still owning xperia, google "ZTE Blade" :
1. unlocked bootloader
2. froyo and custom roms
3. amoled screen
4. costs $100
Oh, and the best one :
5. NOT MADE BY Erics****!
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Lolz. We don't even have ZTE Blade where I live.
Hopefully this "software upgrade" will have to include an Android update, too.
Btw, Xperia users, join this community on Facebook:
"Petition: Android 2.2 (Froyo) for Sony Ericsson Xperia series"
I would like to highlight that all the news regarding the discontinuance of Froyo (Android 2.2) is related to the X10 FAMILY and X10 HANDSETS.
X8 does not belong to this family or these handsets, does it? Furthermore, the upcoming ANT+ feature will come to X10 mini, X10 mini pro and X8 - SE again, specifically, omitted the X10! The ANT+ feature will become available through a "software upgrade"!
They are either being unclear about the way they announce things or they are being VERY specific.
OCEP said:
I would like to highlight that all the news regarding the discontinuance of Froyo (Android 2.2) is related to the X10 FAMILY and X10 HANDSETS.
X8 does not belong to this family or these handsets, does it? Furthermore, the upcoming ANT+ feature will come to X10 mini, X10 mini pro and X8 - SE again, specifically, omitted the X10! The ANT+ feature will become available through a "software upgrade"!
They are either being unclear about the way they announce things or they are being VERY specific.
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The x8 DOES belong to the x10 family, its seen as the mid size/range x10... if you bothered to read the first line from the article linked above about an official announcement from SE UK, you'd see yourself...
Sony Ericsson UK have officially confirmed with us this morning that the Xperia X10 family (including the X8) will not see an Android firmware revision above 2.1)
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They'll do an update to 2.1 to make this ANT+ feature work, they wouldn't announce no further updates past 2.1, but secretly be developing 2.2 etc for the x10 family of handsets, its bad for business if they do...
We wont b getting 2.2 or 2.3 whatsoever, juz an update in the future n we will still on 2.1..
Accept the truth my frens, we will stuck on 2.1 forever.. Thts it, no more SE phones for me..
Yeah, SE confirm no more update new FW for X10 family and no hope for X8, epic fail....
we arent stuck. sometime someone will crack ****ed se loader and we will get froyo..
p.s. i think there wont be gingerbread coz it will run too slow.. recomended hardware is 1GHz cpu..
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The x8 DOES belong to the x10 family, its seen as the mid size/range x10... if you bothered to read the first line from the article linked above about an official announcement from SE UK, you'd see yourself...
They'll do an update to 2.1 to make this ANT+ feature work, they wouldn't announce no further updates past 2.1, but secretly be developing 2.2 etc for the x10 family of handsets, its bad for business if they do...
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I haven't seen/been able to dig up any information directly from Sony Ericsson that mentions the X8. It only seems to be mentioned in the article you refer to.
Regardless of that … If the X8 is considered part of the X10 family then we are truly screwed.
However, I am curious regarding the Ant+ feature. Why did they omit the X10 specifically in their announcement? I find it odd that the X10 - supposedly - doesn't support the hardware for Ant+ but the X10 mini, X10 mini pro and X8 does.
WARR10r said:
we arent stuck. sometime someone will crack ****ed se loader and we will get froyo..
p.s. i think there wont be gingerbread coz it will run too slow.. recomended hardware is 1GHz cpu..
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HTC WILDFIRE will be getting gingerbread and it has a 600 mhz processor!
This isnt fer anymore
SE don't want to update their current android phones because of marketing.
people will have to buy xperia arc to get android 2.3. good for their bussiness. this is how it's work.
Here what i think.
Many people has buyed many xperia smartphones but the xperia arc isnt like other xperia phones because they are cheap but xperia arc isnt.
What happen to us that will scare customers to so maybe they give update.
MAYBE!
Great news for all Sony Ericsson Xperia phone owners, who have been eagerly waiting for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich to run on their devices. A Sony employee has tweeted, rather optimistically, that ICS should be expected to arrive in the very first week of January next year for all 2011 Xperia handsets.
This is a bit of a contrast to the statement of Sony Ericsson Italy, who have said in a Facebook post, that the software update shouldn't be expected before March 2012.
Meanwhile, though, the Xperia arc and neo Ice Cream Sandwich firmware has been submitted for certification by the smartphone manufacturer. If it passes the thorough certification checks, we could indeed see ICS as soon as early next year.
This means that the Xperia active, arc, arc S, mini, mini pro, neo, neo V, Play, pro, Xperia ray and Live with Walkman are going to be one of the first amongst the vastness of Android smartphones to enjoy the new Android software.
source : http://www.gsmarena.com/ics_landing...php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Did you see the tweet?
http://www.androidworld.it/2011/11/...nata-entro-marzo-ad-ice-cream-sandwich-63433/
i dont understand the language so .
This means it wont have any Sony UI right?
here the news in german
Might want to read my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380448 before believing any rumours
When a Sony spokesman let it slip that the company wouldn't update its 2011 Xperia Android smartphones to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, users got upset. Big time!
But now it's time to turn that frown upside down, for Sony has released an official statement that this information was given "in error". The company says it's still researching which of the devices will actually get to receive the tasty Jell Bean update.
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
This is great news for owners of 2011 Xperia devices like the Xperia Arc and Xperia Mini Pro. All there's left to do now is wait and believe in Sony, though at that rate, we wouldn't expect ay update earlier than the holiday season.
Patambiz said:
When a Sony spokesman let it slip that the company wouldn't update its 2011 Xperia Android smartphones to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, users got upset. Big time!
But now it's time to turn that frown upside down, for Sony has released an official statement that this information was given "in error". The company says it's still researching which of the devices will actually get to receive the tasty Jell Bean update.
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
This is great news for owners of 2011 Xperia devices like the Xperia Arc and Xperia Mini Pro. All there's left to do now is wait and believe in Sony, though at that rate, we wouldn't expect ay update earlier than the holiday season.
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http://www.itproportal.com/2012/08/...ter-all-new-xperia-tablet-s-launching-at-ifa/
AND SOME ONE WAS TELLING JB WOD NOT BE THERE WITH OUR GREATEST ARC S
I THING THAT GUY NEED A DRINK TO COME DOWN:fingers-crossed:
Can we keep discussion to the original thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1806908
Here is the list of phones that can exept 4.1
Will get Android 4.1 Jelly Bean:
Xperia T
Xperia TX
Xperia V
Xperia S
Xperia acro S
Xperia ion
Xperia P
Xperia go
Xperia J
**Xperia T, TX og V gets update to 4.1 in middle of first quarter of 2013
Wont get updated to 4.1:
Xperia U
Miro
Tipo
SOURCE:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...rades-jelly-bean-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
http://www.itavisen.no/904519/er-din-mobil-paa-lista
And you miss the most important thing...
We were glad to provide the Android 4.0.4 upgrade for our 2011 Xperia portfolio across most markets and the majority of models but, after thorough evaluation, we have concluded they will not be upgraded beyond Ice Cream Sandwich.
Beyond Ice Cream Sandwich we would not able to guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand. We will however, continue to support all these products with firmware maintenance releases.
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And you miss the most important thing...
Quote:
We were glad to provide the Android 4.0.4 upgrade for our 2011 Xperia portfolio across most markets and the majority of models but, after thorough evaluation, we have concluded they will not be upgraded beyond Ice Cream Sandwich.
Beyond Ice Cream Sandwich we would not able to guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand. We will however, continue to support all these products with firmware maintenance releases.
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Seriously, my phone runs much smoother in JB than on ICS... Thnk you SONY -.-
Seriously Sony's multimillionaire software department can't make a good JB firm for Neo/Arc/S and can do it for Xperia J?
Disappointing but expected news. I'm personally not surprised. It's most likely for marketing. And anyways it's been almost 2 years already since their release. I guess Sony wants everyone to buy their current and future lineup of Xperias.
We should also be thankful that Sony upgraded our phones to ICS. LG isn't even upgrading their 2011 phones as far as I know.
Sony Mobile isn't as big as Samsung or HTC. Cut them some slack.
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Did not miss that. Everybody knows that the 2011 wont get updated.
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So, first you moan because Sony doesn't give out an update.
Then, if an update is released, then you moan even more about all the little problems it has.
They are not your slaves. Give them time to work, you are not the only customers out there. Besides, your phone is not the only one there.
But atleast they should have update arc s to jb isnt 1.4 ghz enough for jb wtf they was saying that they are checking the devices etc.
Fully crap i just bought arc s its still in market and here i am with no jb update
I should have bought s2 instead
I wont buy sony now in future
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But atleast they should have update arc s to jb isnt 1.4 ghz enough for jb wtf they was saying that they are checking the devices etc.
Fully crap i just bought arc s its still in market and here i am with no jb update
I should have bought s2 instead
I wont buy sony now in future
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I think they will get over it
Cheers
I only don't understand why they don't upgrade the arc s... But I think this is the biggest problem with android. Look to samsung, the sgs plus was released almost the same time as the arc s, has similar parts and price and didn't even got ics...
I think the problem is that Sony is lazy to do the JB upgrade. JB requires same requirements as ics the only down side is the 512 mb memory but other phone with the same phone power will still deliver the JB hope they can get back in there word qnd deliver JB to us.
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I hope it to, but i don't think so...
No excuses for Sony really they could provide codes so developers can port JB into older devices unless we launch a huge outrage just like the X10 fiasco.
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Well....this was expected! Not upset because I think Sony has one of the best firmware update services in the market. Just personally realized that it's time to start saving for LG Nexus!
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Beyond Gingerbread we weren't able to give owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand.
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FTFY, Sony.
So...are there any phones that could actually replace my Pro? :/
Will buy Optimus G.. Etc not xperia T, had enough crappy Sony screens, low performance and bad camera (in some situations) will sell xperia t
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Best way is ..more of us ...to don't buy any sony phone ,because they take this fkkk solution ....not to give us ..the owner of 1.4 GHz ..sony device ..a taste of JB...., that's shame ...
I will sell my device and bye a decent phone....( to have 1GB RAM , front facing camera , enough internal storage .., not like this ..420 MB...., and also a decent battery .) , because I don't want to spend all my money to bye a new phone ..every 5 months ...
This is why I'm getting a Samsung phone next year. Samsung's flagship model from 2011 got JellyBean. and what is more pathetic, JB is incomparably smoother and faster than ICS.
time to change brand!
Well, the last few weeks I've been confused whether my next device will be a Nexus, a Lumia or an Xperia,
now I just need to choose between the first two
(Not that Lumia will surely provide better support, I want to know how good/bad is WP8 through experience, I'll keep the arc S though, still the sexiest phone I've ever had)
Last week you probably saw Google announce Android version 4.4; Kit Kat…
We’ve seen lots of questions on our Android upgrade roadmap and equally, we have lots to tell you, so here’s a note on just that…
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
SOURCE - http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/
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UPDATE -
KitKat firmware (14.3.A.0.681) certified for Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686232
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UPDATE 2 -
Android 4.4; KitKat, rolls for Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
Lets hope to be true, its not hard for that, Android of Sony is very clean.
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I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
ahomad said:
I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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i think this is very possible... google usually releases the source codes to manufacturers weeks before they officially lunch a new version...
ahomad said:
I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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fyi kitkat is already announced and it is going to be released later this month.
manufacturers gets source code before official launch as the guy above me said.
Morlock O said:
i think this is very possible... google usually releases the source codes to manufacturers weeks before they officially lunch a new version...
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fyi kitkat is already announced and it is going to be released later this month.
manufacturers gets source code before official launch as the guy above me said.
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I know that this is the case, but this has been the case so long ago (not with android 4.4), yet manufacturers take months before releasing the updates. 4.3 rolled out months ago but you could barely find phones already have 4.3 (apart from note 3 and HTC one) even the SGS4 which used to get updates before anyone else didn't get it yet UNLESS manufacturers already decided to skip 4.3 and focused to get 4.4 faster.
Again I really wish that Sony release 4.4 in November or even earlier (I am not against that, I have the Z1 myself) but as I said before it is highly unlikely.
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I know that this is the case, but this has been the case so long ago (not with android 4.4), yet manufacturers take months before releasing the updates. 4.3 rolled out months ago but you could barely find phones already have 4.3 (apart from note 3 and HTC one) even the SGS4 which used to get updates before anyone else didn't get it yet UNLESS manufacturers already decided to skip 4.3 and focused to get 4.4 faster.
Again I really wish that Sony release 4.4 in November or even earlier (I am not against that, I have the Z1 myself) but as I said before it is highly unlikely.
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what you say is true but I guess the chasing pack (HTC, LG, Sony) are maybe just realizing the importance of timely updates (that probably was a factor in Samsung's ascendance. HTC lost the android crown because it just lost lots of loyal customers who never saw any updates). Since Hardware is more or less commoditized already, the turf wars are gonna be fought on Software front. Faster updates could be USP and Sony might want to claim bragging rights (porting might be easier/faster for Sony as they are almost stock anyway!
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what you say is true but I guess the chasing pack (HTC, LG, Sony) are maybe just realizing the importance of timely updates (that probably was a factor in Samsung's ascendance. HTC lost the android crown because it just lost lots of loyal customers who never saw any updates). Since Hardware is more or less commoditized already, the turf wars are gonna be fought on Software front. Faster updates could be USP and Sony might want to claim bragging rights (porting might be easier/faster for Sony as they are almost stock anyway!
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I totally agree with you. Sony said they will release faster updates. Sony has advantage here because of the light skin but this is not the only thing, actually it is the least time consuming thing because it doesn't need much optimization and testing, at the end it is mostly an app that you can install to change how the phone look. The problem is to get it to work along with all the features with THIS SPECIFIC DEVICE, they need to test how the software would perform in THIS hardware (mainly chipset and screen and other things). And here is the bigger advantage of the Z1 as it uses the same chip and screen resolution as the nexus 5 (according to rumors), this will definitely help sony to release the new android versions much faster to the Z1 as it will already be optimized and tested. but again I doubt they will release it two weeks after the release of the 4.4 to the nexus devices but I still hope they will.
Guys, have a look here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/
gire.prasad said:
Guys, have a look here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/
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They don't list any sources either, as far as I am concerned neither "presumption" is correct, OEM's get new android versions months before there even announced so Sony may very well be cooking up Kitkat ready for November.
I don't believe it, if anything I'd expect a 4.3 release in November and a 4.4 in early 2014 hopefully.
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They don't list any sources either, as far as I am concerned neither "presumption" is correct, OEM's get new android versions months before there even announced so Sony may very well be cooking up Kitkat ready for November.
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If they were, it's time we built a monument for Sony
Highly unlikely.. But if it happened to be the case, Sony deserves a lot of credit. In my opinion they receive too little credit for their contributions to AOSP. But that's another matter
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Possibly. Google said they want kit Kat for everyone.
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This is getting old, but anyway here it is again...
Just look at Sony´s smartphone and firmware history m8´s, and you will see that this is never going to happen...
- we are lucky to recive 4.3 in late Q1 or perhaps Q2 of 2014, and after that the Z1 will be abandoned...
IF the rumor really WAS true, Sony would have turned 180 degrees in their business strategy... (and that is not likely, is it now ??)
Becource sony has actually acted that way for years now, at least since Xperia X10...
Sony is in this marked for the money, nothing else...
That is also why the Z1 was shipped with 4.2.2, and NOT 4.3 from the beginning...
- this way Sony can meet Googles demands on major updates, without actually giving YOU anything new...
Just think for 2 sec, about this:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
This is also not new for Sony, the X10 was shipped with 1.6...
Sony is NOT stupid, the history repeats it self over and over, and we buy the products anyway...
BTW other Sony "feature" is these:
DON`T be suppriced to find that the Z and other phones is going to get the 4.3 before the Z1, that is actually also normal sony behavior.
DON´T be suppriced if you at last, one day finally will get 4.4 anyway (Q4 2014), that there will be features missing in the new version, that also is normal sony behavior.
The rumours come from a pretty unreliable source, so I'm not basing any of my analysis on that. Rather based on how close Sonys UI is to AOSP, porting it to 4.3 or 4.4 seems more trivial than it would for HTC or Samsung, considering their much larger deviations from AOSP. But ultimately only time will tell.
pshdo said:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
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Because they've been working on the Z1 for longer than 4.3 has been available and wanted to beat the other manufacturers to market with an S800 phone (note that the LG G2 also shipped with 4.2.2 and is the only other phone with an S800 CPU), there literally is no other plausible explanation, stop being such a downer man. Ultimately 4.2.2/4.3/4.4 doesn't make any difference at all to the average consumer, and in fact, Sony might actually provide a better user experience by sticking to 4.2.2 until the bugs have been ironed out of the new major versions.
They will likely have had a team working on porting their UI to 4.3/4.4 while developing the Xperia Z1, they are just not ready yet.
Maybe you guys dont use to Sony?
Just relax and don't put high hope on update.....(xperia S and TX owner here waiting Z1)
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The only for reason for 4.2.2 in Z1, is to claim the amount of major updates without actually give us anything new...
- as i said Sony is NOT stupid, they are in this marked to earn money, nothing else...
Rekoil said:
stop being such a downer man.
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Stop being so gullible man.
Rekoil said:
Ultimately 4.2.2/4.3/4.4 doesn't make any difference at all to the average consumer, and in fact, Sony might actually provide a better user experience by sticking to 4.2.2 until the bugs have been ironed out of the new major versions.
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THIS IS FUNNY !
This is actually allmost exactly what S/E responded back in the X10 days, when people was on 1.6, waiting allmost a year for 2.1...
- are you shure you dont Work for them ??
4.3 would give new features, and equally importent, it would let Sony be in the android lead for once, but then they have to give you, at least, also 4.4, and Sony don´t want to do that...
- it is better for Sony´s economy, if we all buy a new phone in a year instead...
But DON`T belive me, PLEACE DONT !
Just read the Sony and S/E history instead, and form your oppinion from that...
- then lets talk...
Dont get me wrong, Sony make fantasic smartphones, i love my sony phones...
Sony just dont update them as mutch as you would expect, and for a good reason...
pshdo said:
The only for reason for 4.2.2 in Z1, is to claim the amount of major updates without actually give us anything new...
- as i said Sony is NOT stupid, they are in this marked to earn money, nothing else...
Stop being so gullible man.
THIS IS FUNNY !
This is actually allmost exactly what S/E responded back in the X10 days, when people was on 1.6, waiting allmost a year for 2.1...
- are you shure you dont Work for them ??
4.3 would give new features, and equally importent, it would let Sony be in the android lead for once, but then they have to give you, at least, also 4.4, and Sony don´t want to do that...
- it is better for Sony´s economy, if we all buy a new phone in a year instead...
But DON`T belive me, PLEACE DONT !
Just read the Sony and S/E history instead, and form your oppinion from that...
- then lets talk...
Dont get me wrong, Sony make fantasic smartphones, i love my sony phones...
Sony just dont update them as mutch as you would expect, and for a good reason...
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I don't work for them, and excuse me for potentially being naïve, I'm just saying there have been large changes to the inner workings of Sony recently (look up Kaz Hirais One Sony initiative), nothing is impossible!
pshdo said:
This is getting old, but anyway here it is again...
Just look at Sony´s smartphone and firmware history m8´s, and you will see that this is never going to happen...
- we are lucky to recive 4.3 in late Q1 or perhaps Q2 of 2014, and after that the Z1 will be abandoned...
IF the rumor really WAS true, Sony would have turned 180 degrees in their business strategy... (and that is not likely, is it now ??)
Becource sony has actually acted that way for years now, at least since Xperia X10...
Sony is in this marked for the money, nothing else...
That is also why the Z1 was shipped with 4.2.2, and NOT 4.3 from the beginning...
- this way Sony can meet Googles demands on major updates, without actually giving YOU anything new...
Just think for 2 sec, about this:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
This is also not new for Sony, the X10 was shipped with 1.6...
Sony is NOT stupid, the history repeats it self over and over, and we buy the products anyway...
BTW other Sony "feature" is these:
DON`T be suppriced to find that the Z and other phones is going to get the 4.3 before the Z1, that is actually also normal sony behavior.
DON´T be suppriced if you at last, one day finally will get 4.4 anyway (Q4 2014), that there will be features missing in the new version, that also is normal sony behavior.
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LOL such a doubter... and it is surprised not suppriced ...
ok let us take a look at Sony's Firmware history:
1. Xperia S(March 2012) launched with GB installed, they released ICS (4.0.4) update around may-june 2012 as promised, then release jellyean 1 year later (may-june 2013)... They actually have released a leaked version earlier at around April 2013 (build .200) so developers can start developing with the jellybean firmware... that is very timely... as expected, they will stop here as Qualcom has stopped supporting the chipset installed in Xperia S... no surprise there.
2. Xperia Z(February 2013) was released with Jelly bean 4.1.2... and then released 4.2.2 mid this year... they also promised 4.3 upgrade around Dec or January...
now lets take a look at Google's release cycle:
ICS 4.0.4 is release on 29 March 2012
JB 4.1.2 is released Oct 2012
JB 4.2.2 is only released Feb 2013
As you can see, Sony has an orderly version release cycle... and they always deliver on their promises... and as you can see after Sony releases a new product, they upgrade it to the latest version 3-4 months later... they are also known to skip versions... (they skipped ICS 4.0.3 and went to 4.0.4)
how much you wanna bet they will release 4.4 on or before Q1 2014?