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Will we REALLY get froyo?

The title says it all. Will we ever really get froyo? On starting to doubt it. Just curious what others think. Hopefully someone here is the head software engineer at Samsung
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ksizzle9 said:
The title says it all. Will we ever really get froyo? On starting to doubt it. Just curious what others think. Hopefully someone here is the head software engineer at Samsung
they call me...kick ass
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from the fascinate page on samsungs site:
" Powered by the latest Android platform (and upgradeable to 2.2), this phone fully integrates with Google Mobile Services. You're now at one with your Gmail account, Google Maps, YouTube videos and more."
Plus Verizon publicly stated we will be able to use google search over bing when it is upgraded to Froyo
i dont know when, but it will come

No one knows.
I do think that Samsung's credability in the android world is at stake. Right now they are NOT LOOKING GOOD and boring the hell out of me. WTF is the problem?

Wow guys, have some patients, the phone has been out for 14 days. I realize Froyo has been out for longer than that but jeez, relax. To say "are we ever gonna get it" is a little ridiculous. Just sit back and enjoy your new toy, its already great. Or maybe get off your comp and go find a lady to keep you busy for a change

Um, anyone following the news should not be doubting this. Samsung announced that Froyo will be out for the Galaxy S by the end of October. The US variants should follow shortly afterward.

Look at the back of the media dock and it will answer your question.
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dlongb13 said:
Or maybe get off your comp and go find a lady to keep you busy for a change
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Lol
My phone made words....

dlongb13 said:
Wow guys, have some patients, the phone has been out for 14 days. I realize Froyo has been out for longer than that but jeez, relax. To say "are we ever gonna get it" is a little ridiculous. Just sit back and enjoy your new toy, its already great. Or maybe get off your comp and go find a lady to keep you busy for a change
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This. It took me around 3 months to get Froyo for my Droid X, so 14 days isn't really that much time. All signs point to it being out within the next few months. To be honest, I'm enjoying my Fascinate the way it is now, I just got everything set up the way I want. That's not to say that 2.2 wouldn't be a welcome addition, I just know how much of a pain it's been getting it functioning properly on my last 3 devices.

I am really not in a huge hurry to get it. My phone is working great, just as my Droid 1 was working before 2.2 fried it and there began my move to the fascinate. They gave me junk replacement phones for my 6 month old, like new Droid, then they gave me a Droid 2 and extended my contract without my knowing, so I kicked and screamed and got the droid 2 exchanged for the Fascinate. So it is a little worrysome to me to think about frying another phone with a 2.2 update.

We will have Froyo by the end of October. This came from MULTIPLE Verizon Reps.
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I'm not holding my breath for any release date. It will be out when it's out. The only big things I'm interested in are increased speed, USB tether, and enterprise security features, and since my phone is already quite fast, I have wifi tethering, and use Touchdown for proper Exchange connectivity, I have no problem waiting. I will be disappointed if it doesn't come out this year though.
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The Captivate just got Froyo leaked. Can we be far behind?
I can't post links yet. See thread ID 797282 from the Captivate forums.
Fingers crossed...

st0101 said:
We will have Froyo by the end of October. This came from MULTIPLE Verizon Reps.
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It's definitely coming, but idk about end of October. Lol verizon reps don't know sh*t.
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I hope it is coming soon. I can't wait for ROMs and kernels. And can you imagine how fast this will be with Froyo? It's already much faster on 2.1 than any phone I've used on 2.2, overclocked or not.

Mannnnn!! When is this froyo or gingerbread coming??

IM gettting anoyed and tired of waiting anyone have a clue

Really? REALLY?
Sigh.....

boogief1 said:
IM gettting anoyed and tired of waiting anyone have a clue
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Not really getting tired of waiting but i am tired of these threads.. be patient the phone is a beast without froyo or run the leak if you want.

As a unfortunate Samsung owner. I say never and I understand the frustration BC we all want something that we were promised. Period.
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lol
anyone knows a good leak to flash that doesnt have bugs or allot of bugs while running it ???

difrent7 said:
Not really getting tired of waiting but i am tired of these threads.. be patient the phone is a beast without froyo or run the leak if you want.
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I'm with ya. The phone is a monster even stock right out of the box. The Cortex A8 Hummingbird is by far the fastest stock Processor out there (in my opinion). My wife has an Evo and I can navigate around my phone and web 5x faster than her.

i agree i had the Evo be4 and this phone is better and by saying this phone i mean EPIC

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i agree i had the Evo be4 and this phone is better and by saying this phone i mean EPIC
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1 Year Upgrades is all I have to say

12/25-26/2010 take me to court,you wont get ****
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ecooce said:
12/25-26/2010 take me to court,you wont get ****
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Are you saying froyo or gingerbread then?
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While for many, this update won't mean much, for others is actually a very important update. Our current gmail app is seriously crippled for some email users, no android management tools, no push notifications plus a more restricted market. I briefly switched and was stunned at the improvements made to the gmail app...eventually had to switch back though because my Battery life took a *HUGE* hit. Samsung/Sprint is really starting to drop the ball IMO.

2.2.1 is still being worked on,,,but the talk around the water cooler is 5-6 months for gingerbread,,,but it will be ported long before then.
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strike that water cooler remark,this info is coming from a family member,highly trusted
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Well froyo still has bugs I flashed it and got call issues freezing even after wipiing 3 times,lag on icons loading after rotate or opening keyboard...stock 2.1 is better.and no this phone is not better than evo they are both tha same it all depends on preference ,like epic keyboard but thicker>evo no keyboard thinner ,amoled or bigger screen,evo hdmi .evo 8mp camera kickstand etc...

boogief1 said:
IM gettting anoyed and tired of waiting anyone have a clue
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Who cares, use DK28. It works great and has the best battery life I have ever seen on a smart phone. Most recently, from a full charge with calls, texts, internet browsing, emailing, facebook, and over an hour of angry birds I got 31 hours of use before I put it on the charger at 6%. I used it the whole day, left it off the charger for the night and used it the next day just to see how long it would last. If they are making these kind of improvements I an very happy with the progress and they can have as much time as needed.

iil said:
While for many, this update won't mean much, for others is actually a very important update. Our current gmail app is seriously crippled for some email users, no android management tools, no push notifications plus a more restricted market. I briefly switched and was stunned at the improvements made to the gmail app...eventually had to switch back though because my Battery life took a *HUGE* hit. Samsung/Sprint is really starting to drop the ball IMO.
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You are doing something seriously wrong if you think DK28 caused bad battery life. I suggest you try again and calibrate your battery. See my previous post, this thing lasts FOREVER.

ecooce said:
12/25-26/2010 take me to court,you wont get ****
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Are you trying to say that is the release date? If so, you just destroyed your own credibility because they would never release a huge update on a holiday. No one wants to be stuck with a broken phone on Christmas sitting on hold for tech support. They most likely have less staff working too, which would just compound the problems.

funy thing is I dont care if you think its credible,Im putting it out there,if Im flammed Im flammed...And to clarify what my info is,12/20 is when they want to have RC2 ready for .4 version test phones,the window is mostly 5 days for bugs to be reported,now we are looking at 12/25-26,then if it is given the ok,it will roll out before the end of the year as expected,not everyone will get the OTA the first day.So I cant say when you will get it,only when they expect it to be done....And if you follow my trail, posted exactly when DK28 would hit 3 weeks before,I said 26-29. And Ive said this before,DK28 was supposed to be final with an update 2 weeks after the roll out to fix any unseen bugs.I mentioned this here and on SDX,does that seem credible enough for you?
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Also,this is why DK28 was posted on a google server,someone jumped the gun,that person was probably fired.
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boogief1 said:
anyone knows a good leak to flash that doesnt have bugs or allot of bugs while running it ???
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Running Epic Experience DK28 at the moment. I've been getting GREAT battery life and very few issues.
A little laggy at times, but nothing serious.

epic 4g offical 2.2 update is out?

Sh*t! Delete me.

Naughty naughty...
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Wtf did I miss damn...
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"epic 4g official 2.2 update is out" ..
Ha! That'll be the day...

Don't tease me!
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Fail
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Not now..
Why didn't you wait till April 1st?

Is this a dream.... oh nevermind he had a typo.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

Ha, u can edit the name of the thread, still
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Has there been any news on this? I mean its going to be February tomorrow, and I was just wondering where the hell all this furor over the delayed updates went. Sprint hasn't really said anything concrete, neither has Samsung so I'm honestly pretty pissed...

I sprint tech told me samsung still have the froyo and sprint haven't received it yet.. He states we was one of the testers and have no ideal of a release date cause sprint doesn't haven't anything to test yet ... This was a few days ago
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Sprint has it and it works Great. They are just trying to figure out a way to charge ALL their customers and extra 10.00 per month to get it, even if you don't have an Android Phone.

They've already annoucned that they're going to begin doing that haha.
Seriously though, where did all teh furor over this go? I remember a few weeks ago people were going crazy over this, and I haven't heard a single mention of it as of yet...

JSarella said:
They've already annoucned that they're going to begin doing that haha.
Seriously though, where did all teh furor over this go? I remember a few weeks ago people were going crazy over this, and I haven't heard a single mention of it as of yet...
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I think everyone has given up on ranting.

Welcome to Rule #1 of Big Business.
"Ignore a problem long enough and it will go away."
That's how I got rid of my annoying ex-girlfriend too. It's foolproof.

nyclio said:
Welcome to Rule #1 of Big Business.
"Ignore a problem long enough and it will go away."
That's how I got rid of my annoying ex-girlfriend too. It's foolproof.
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Yes. Customer will go away and give money to someone else.

I used to work in collections. One often repeated mantra of collections was "If they're yelling, you're still on the right track to get paid." If they stopped yelling, they no longer cared. In business, it is a bad sign if complaints grind to a halt, as it likely indicates an upcoming exodus of customers.
I probably won't leave Sprint, but in spite of how much I enjoy the Epic as it is, the fact that it is taking so long to be able to enjoy the Epic as it could be will likely have me looking at LG and/or HTC phones next time around.

Same here, I like sprint but I'll no longer buy samsung phones anymore because this sucks big time. I no longer care for an update, it will come when it comes I'm just waiting 1 yr goes by to purchase another phone and more likely will be a HTC, I love their keyboards.
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lepapirriky said:
Same here, I like sprint but I'll no longer buy samsung phones anymore because this sucks big time. I no longer care for an update, it will come when it comes I'm just waiting 1 yr goes by to purchase another phone and more likely will be a HTC, I love their keyboards.
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That's where I am.... mostly happy with DK28 and the custom roms. I'll be considering HTC next time... it's a shame the EVO was so damn slow compared to the SGS series because that would have been a decent competitor.

lepapirriky said:
Same here, I like sprint but I'll no longer buy samsung phones anymore because this sucks big time. I no longer care for an update, it will come when it comes I'm just waiting 1 yr goes by to purchase another phone and more likely will be a HTC, I love their keyboards.
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My last phone was a TP2. It shipped with WM 6.1 but 6.5 was released shortly after the phone was released. It took about 6 months for Sprint and HTC to release 6.5, and the whole time people were pissing and moaning about it on all the boards. Plus, many users (includinng me) had screens that failed in the first year. It aint any better in the HTC world.

So much for Miui coming to the Atrix today...

I know that the OP of the previous thread supposedly asked for the thread to be closed, but seriously, I came home early to be able to install Miui onto my mom's Atrix so she could get off the CM7 beta2.
I guess for now I'll have to install the latest 'CM7'-ish rom for her, considering the Atrix still isn't officially supported.

You could always develop it yourself instead of whining. The developers owe you nothing! I know if I was the dev I wouldn't release it just because of people like you!
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SG Pillar said:
I guess for now I'll have to install the latest 'CM7'-ish rom for her, considering the Atrix still isn't officially supported.
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what is it about the current CM7 build that isn't up to par for you?

I kinda understand some people are annoyed, irritated, just plain mad because so and so said would release x rom on so and so day and didn't happen. *I get that.* But really people?
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dLo GSR said:
what is it about the current CM7 build that isn't up to par for you?
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As far as I've experienced on the CM7 build for the Atrix, the battery life is simply atrocious along with the lack of webtop and proper HDMI-out support.

Lol @ installing miui on your moms Atrix.
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CaelanT said:
You could always develop it yourself instead of whining. The developers owe you nothing! I know if I was the dev I wouldn't release it just because of people like you!
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I am owed nothing from developers.
But when I read that a build of some ROM is coming x day, and I take the time to come home to help my mother put that on her phone only for it to (as of yet) not come to fruition, I am less than pleased with said developer.
They still owe me nothing, but they have less than my full satisfaction.

MIUI is based off of CM7 so chances are more than likely the same stuff won't work that doesn't work on CM7 for the Atrix.

Battery life is my main problem with CM7, it just wont last more than 2/3rds of a day. I've been finding myself to bring the charger wherever I go.
Here's to hoping that the developer who was kind enough to even think of getting MIUI for our Atrix devices, gives us a more solid timeframe.
It's all about setting expectations I guess. For me, my expectation of the Atrix in itself has been surpassed with the bA2tf CM7 release. I guess I'm easy to please!
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What? Did you expect it to be released at midnight last night? There's still up to eight hours left in the day depending on where you live. Have patience my friend!
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The.Opethian said:
Battery life is my main problem with CM7, it just wont last more than 2/3rds of a day. I've been finding myself to bring the charger wherever I go.
Here's to hoping that the developer who was kind enough to even think of getting MIUI for our Atrix devices, gives us a more solid timeframe.
It's all about setting expectations I guess. For me, my expectation of the Atrix in itself has been surpassed with the bA2tf CM7 release. I guess I'm easy to please!
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I'm not getting the whole " my battery doesn't last on cm7 " I can get a solid 8 hours of constant use without the need for a charger.. 10 % per hour give or take. With the stock kernal. I even nought the siedio 3500 mah extended battery. And find I really don't need it ATM.
While miui would def rock to have on our atrix... I'm content with cm7 for my needs. And not in anyway getting caught up in the where is this or that drama.. sit back enjoy your phone. Lol
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SG Pillar said:
I know that the OP of the previous thread supposedly asked for the thread to be closed, but seriously, I came home early to be able to install Miui onto my mom's Atrix so she could get off the CM7 beta2.
I guess for now I'll have to install the latest 'CM7'-ish rom for her, considering the Atrix still isn't officially supported.
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Looking for pity and using your mom's well being in her phone-life to get it? You are the type that will drive slowness up for miui development for the Atrix.
You should buy your mom a new phone and try not reporting it to the world for a change.

IUH1991 said:
What? Did you expect it to be released at midnight last night? There's still up to eight hours left in the day depending on where you live. Have patience my friend!
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yea...at the beginning of the day i had really high hopes for this and now I'm not sure where this thing is going....thats why i closed my miui thread because i figured there was going to be a lot of bickering since it still hadn't been released

SG Pillar said:
I am owed nothing from developers.
But when I read that a build of some ROM is coming x day, and I take the time to come home to help my mother put that on her phone only for it to (as of yet) not come to fruition, I am less than pleased with said developer.
They still owe me nothing, but they have less than my full satisfaction.
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you want on time? Order a frigging pizza! This is xda not dominos! Like anyone gives a piss if you're fully satisfied or not!? Lmao

You think your mom was disappointed? Wait until I tell you about my grandpa! He was hell bent on getting MIUI but I was fortunate enough to get the same wallpaper the guy in the video had. I think I have a few days before he notices that its a customised cM7 that he was using.
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You think your grandpa will be disappointing? Wait until i tell you about my great great great grandma! She wanted an electronic device but electricity wasn't discovered in her days! COME ON DEVS, DISCOVER ELECTRICITY ALREADY!

coolnow said:
You think your grandpa will be disappointing? Wait until i tell you about my great great great grandma! She wanted an electronic device but electricity wasn't discovered in her days! COME ON DEVS, DISCOVER ELECTRICITY ALREADY!
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You think your great great great grandma will be disappointed? Wait until I tell you about my great great great great yet not so great grandpa. He's dead! Bring him back to life Devs!!!!
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IUH1991 said:
What? Did you expect it to be released at midnight last night? There's still up to eight hours left in the day depending on where you live. Have patience my friend!
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Actually I kind of was lol. Stayed up refreshing my twitter feed.

The.Opethian said:
You think your mom was disappointed? Wait until I tell you about my grandpa! He was hell bent on getting MIUI but I was fortunate enough to get the same wallpaper the guy in the video had. I think I have a few days before he notices that its a customised cM7 that he was using.
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[email protected] your grandpa for owning a smartphone and caring whats on it.

Jibraldor said:
You think your great great great grandma will be disappointed? Wait until I tell you about my great great great great yet not so great grandpa. He's dead! Bring him back to life Devs!!!!
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They should make an app for that!!

The Golden Age of Development(aka my life story)

I thought I'd keep up the ideal that the general section is a bin for off-topic wonders.
So I want to love on this phone more.
I saw a quote in the GNexus forums from Anon9mouz in his siggy that made me long for the old days.
"I envy the dumb ones."
It made me really sad. I remember back when I first got into rooting. I found a couple review videos for Bubby323's AOSP Magic ROM, Andromeda by noobnl, and KyleCole's BOSS ROM(Reviews by Dash, before ACS). I also remember reading about Cognition ROM over on the Captivate forums. "You see, it boosts benchmark scores from 1100 all the way up to the mid-2500's". That was what got me interested really. I now know that that ROM was using Quadrant hacks, but it was the idea that I could unlock the power of my device. Watching an old Randy Shear video. I was so afraid I was going to break my phone. But when I finally did it felt so great.
I remember I jumped on board during the beginning of the DK28 era. Frankenstein, Quantum, Supernova, Viper, Nebula, Bonsai, and the ever great idea of CM6. I remember flashing all of them and running Quadrant(back when that really meant something to me). After all, CM6's benchmarks are what pushed me to root in the first place. I remember reading that benchmarks didn't mean as much as I thought, and when I saw noobnl load Quadrant into RAM and get an outstanding score, I decided to go with what felt best to me for the first time. I thought Bonsai was the smoothest and I appreciated how small Frankenstein was(though I hated the theme, but it was so cool how he was able to change it). I decided on Viper ROM because when you used the music player, you could pause/play/stop from the notifications tray. I didn't get the concept that they just added an updated application. I thought they were magical. Emotionless Beast was the first theme I ever flashed. And the first thread I started was about MIUI music. I couldn't find it anywhere, so I figure I'd post it. That was where I got my first thanks, and my first senior member scolding. Damn MysteryEmotionz. Talking down on the newbies. Especially that I knew he was just as bad as me at on point. Oh and I remember Zanderman! I remember watching him not root. And I remember the quest to getting him to the point where he was comfortable with it!
Then Mike_77, asdfghjkl, fusingblackrose, raymond, and I started where ahmgsk left off and ported MIUI 1.3.5. I originally was just decompiling for asdfghjkl, but I eventually started smali huning for myself and I got SMS working It was such a thrill. All of the builds we made we posted publicly for everyone to play with. Kind of like what happened with MIUI v4 and CM10 now. Free for all.
I remember how amazing it was when Rodderik released Genocide BEFORE official with 1.2GHZ overclock. That was a feat. And a few days later EB13 hit the market. That's when things began to change. I began theming. And became one of the best without using DreamForgottens accursed guide. Tim and I were up for hours going through XML files and smali just to see what we could tweak. I began work on Nebula Theme beta...and it was a disaster. Nebula Theme v1 came out as the first theme to feature Maddoggin's lock mod. And I was super proud.
I joined ACS around then. I remember it being such a big deal, how Tim built up to it and then didn't tell me until an unexpected letter from ACS head came in. I was accepted with ease. And given a nice article. I got an ACS email address and given all of the internal log ins. I even had to sign a non-disclosure at one point. That was back when ACS' name meant something to people. They were the only group that mattered then, and I got all sorts of praise just for being in. Nice then groups like ERA and IAP came into foreground. Too bad ACS was a waste of time. I remember SRF 1.2. And how everyone but me loved it. I was running BakedSnack you see. That was fast. Haha. Know what was something I kind of regret in a childish way? Not being able to flaunt around SRF 1.3. Oh yeah. It existed. And it blew away all others. New Twilight kernel, clean theme, fast fast fast, Chris41g's last gift to this forum. And it didn't even get released. At least I'll always have it. I remember VisionKernel. 1.2 was bricking phones and such. I always kept it for the insane overclocking(at the time). And I got to use 1.3 for a while too. Thomasskull you big dork.
I learned plenty of during the GB leaks. I was able to properly pack FB15(remember FB15? Yeah me neither). I made it a ODIN tar, and I released MY FIRST ROM! Stock+ I called it. It was just clean. And I was happy. I figured when official came around I would upgrade it. And when it did I released Mortify. But at this point I was painfully knowledgeable. Sure CM9 was fun, but it wasn't as cool as CM7 or DK28. That was the golden age of development on this device.
My most recent appreciation for this forum is Kennyglass123. I missed the whole Impaler era of moderating. And frankly, we never had a good moderator in the time that I've been here. When Kenny got promoted I was elated. Finally! A moderator that will watch our forum! Finally! A moderator with less of a life than me! He'll be SO punctual when responding to my PM's! And he has been, and he will. He's amazing. And he should probably start using the server space I set up for him...
Ignorance is bliss. And it's why my Galaxy Nexus won't ever compare to how I feel about the Epic. I literally love it. And I love the community it came with. I know we are spread far and thin, but I want you all to know that you're like a family to me. And I still recognize names, even on other phones. Thank you all, so much. You've made me who I am today.
UBER will always be Biggoron to me
And I remember this one guy. I think his name was flastnoles11. He's wasted SOOOOOOOO many of his thanks on me. I guess I am as hilarious as I whisper to myself at night...HE'S DOING IT AS WE SPEAK

And I dedicate this post to iSaint.
Oh yeah, I started that ****.
Started on one of my themes. He was really into calling first, so one day I took it and simply put "First. Sorry iSaint"
He replied with "Damn you!!!" or equivalent.
And then EVERYONE for a long while did it as well! And I mean everyone. Even lurkers then were doing it.
Good times.

Quite a journey you've had! Man hard to believe this is my first smartphone ever and already know the things I do! And uber will always be biggoron to me too! I know I loved this last mortify v2 and your cm9 theme was amazing (forget the name, the red one, haha) I jumped on this phone after the ec05 update and promptly rooted and flashed srf 1.2... good times... gonna hate it when I upgrade, but sometimes a little hate is a good thing :thumbup:

I was thinking about the first time I posted a thread, in the Q&A forum, trying to find the stock rooted EC05 tar. Ugothakd and this "Kennyglass" guy posted replies, like;"dude, did you check Dyehya's 'How to Unbrick your Epic' thread? Its right there!" I felt like such a moron, but Kenny was very encouraging. Come to find out he lives 20 minutes from me, originally from NY; kind of my "kindred spirit". Whenever I asked a question, he was the first to answer. I'm sure he regrets the day he gave me his Gtalk contact info...
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I LOL'd

How odd that just this morning I was thinking about how far things have come and the journey the Epic has had. You mention alot of what I was thinking but I was also remembering the journal/don't journal debates, RFS vs EXT4, battery calibration by discharging your battery then pulling the battery with the charge cord plugged in, CIQ just to name a few more. When was the golden age of development? For me it begins with the Epic since that is the first phone I even new could be improved by you guys.
Thanks for taking the journey and helping us lurkers out.

vwags said:
How odd that just this morning I was thinking about how far things have come and the journey the Epic has had. You mention alot of what I was thinking but I was also remembering the journal/don't journal debates, RFS vs EXT4, battery calibration by discharging your battery then pulling the battery with the charge cord plugged in, CIQ just to name a few more. When was the golden age of development? For me it begins with the Epic since that is the first phone I even new could be improved by you guys.
Thanks for taking the journey and helping us lurkers out.
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Ah yes. I remember all of that! I was all about calibration.
i was a journaling off kind of guy. But until MTD it was EXT4 4 life!
And when k0 found and removed ciq. And then it went kind of unnoticed for a long time. And then trav made such a big deal it set a ball in motion.
Thanks! Maybe i should just make a list of topics that arose with the Epic.

The GB leaks...
"How do we fix the keyboard skips???"
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orlzzt said:
The GB leaks...
"How do we fix the keyboard skips???"
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By far the most annoying thing about this device when stock...........

flastnoles11 said:
By far the most annoying thing about this device when stock...........
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"I'm on EL30...and I keep getting this notification to update to FC09"
But I digress... Darkie is onto something here. I love to remember the old days. I learned to root at my youngest son's 11th birthday party. The laser tag place had free wi-fi, and I brought my laptop and watched all of Randyshears and DJR3Z' videos on rooting...
DRockstar...Noobnl...Bthomas22x...TPhillips...JohnCorleone..everyone helped everyone else. Magical!
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Your post got me thinking about how much I'm learning. Even if it is so late in the lifecycle of our phone. It'll be a bittersweet day, when I find my I9300 for a good price and move on from this phone. I'm sure I'll keep my Epic, although it'll be in eternal airplane mode. It'll make a nice crash machine, mini tablet, media center remote, etc.

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And I dedicate this post to iSaint.
Oh yeah, I started that ****.
Started on one of my themes. He was really into calling first, so one day I took it and simply put "First. Sorry iSaint"
He replied with "Damn you!!!" or equivalent.
And then EVERYONE for a long while did it as well! And I mean everyone. Even lurkers then were doing it.
Good times.
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And that carries on to other device forums...except those with their devices stuck up their ass report those posts as trolling! I snuff those as quick as I get them.
Nice trip down memory lane! I finally jumped on the rooting and flashing with DK28 because I needed Flash to work on out Epics for my GFs website to show up. Then the Best Buy tech was walking around with his Epic flaunting his Froyo so sat my ass down and read and read. Flashed SuperNova first, then Midnight the next day, then determined to get the SuperNova bootani on Midnight, then Bonsai where I became part of that team, then the rest is history. Once the bug gets in you it is tough to get it out.
Nice Epic history my friend!
May the Epic live forever as the first of it's kind to boldly go where no phone has gone before with a slide out keyboard!

My only regret...... Not rooting sooner. Missed out on some great times.
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My only regret...... Not rooting sooner. Missed out on some great times.
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Heard that! Didn't even know what rooting a phone was until about a week after I got the phone! Haha...

flastnoles11 said:
Heard that! Didn't even know what rooting a phone was until about a week after I got the phone! Haha...
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A week!? I was on stock for 6 months. Froyo EC05 was the last OTA I got before rooting ..
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A week!? I was on stock for 6 months. Froyo EC05 was the last OTA I got before rooting ..
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My phone was already on ec05 when I got it from sprint... I was late to the game...

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My phone was already on ec05 when I got it from sprint... I was late to the game...
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And when EI22 was released...Wow! We finally got GB! Only 8 months after everyone else!
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My phone was already on ec05 when I got it from sprint... I was late to the game...
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Wow real late. I was on eclair when I got mine. I remember cuz my bro had the EVO and he had flash and I did not. I almost got that phone.... I'm so glad I didn't, he to this day regrets not getting the epic.
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Wow darkie, I remember alllll of that. God ViperRom...and BakedSnack lol. hero_over! Lol. Jesus that was bad...but BakedSnack was my first ROM. But Viper quickly stole my heart...and Rodderick's kernel were just so....good. the best.
I remember when froyo went official OTA, and the freaking mayhem that ensued in that thread trying to teach the noob how to pull it.
And Zanderman! Darkie, the zanderman saga was amazing. And I remember he was waiting for....the lock screen mod? Yeah, I think it was that...I remember referencing it in that thread ("somebody tell zanderman") and the OP didn't know what I was talking about...so sad lol.
I've been here pretty much since the beginning, and although my OG epic is my secondary phone, I still have this forum favorited and pop in every day.
What amazes me darkie, is that you seriously lurked for that long. I heard of you and always thought you were on a different device. That's some serious stealth, considering my time spent on xda rivals the mods. To think that you were here before dk28 (those who don't know dk28 should spend some time in the zombie threads) amazes me.
Oh yeah and...when's tmiller gonna get tv-out working?
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squshy 7 said:
I remember when froyo went official OTA, and the freaking mayhem that ensued in that thread trying to teach the noob how to pull it.
Oh yeah and...when's tmiller gonna get tv-out working?
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I got my Epic like 2 weeks before Froyo went OTA I kept checking every day to see if I got it. After a few days I got ticked off and started searching and came across XDA and haven't left LOL.
I LOL'd on the tv-out.