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Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.
Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....
Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?
So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?
Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.
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What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).
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What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)
I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.
I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM
I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.
Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!
Ok so I know every one has a different reason for why they like a certain rom.
We have great devs here I have tried the following
Legendary
Acs
Clean Gb
All of them rock and are all different as they are similar.
If you have tried more than one tell me why you stuck with it over the others.
I know the hardcore ACs and Legendary ppl will vote for theirs but only chime in if you have tried more than one. even if the other is not on my list..
Maybe this discussion will help me choose and maybe help other also.
I personally like the "close to stock" roms...don't get me wrong I've done my fair share of flashing to the "extreme" but there doesn't seem to be many headaches with the "close to stock roms" ....just my ¢2
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stepped out for a while and back in
I stepped out for a while and am trying to update my phone. I am so out I do not know how active the forum has been . This is exactly the information I am looking for and am still going to try to dig up . I hope that there is such a thread and that is why this did not take. . .or maybe that the forums are so bustling that there are no less than productive awesomeness going on behind the curtains. . .or hopefully because of the holiday or something because it would be a shame if such a useful thread died a lonely death because there was no evaluating releases thread.
Have no idea. . .just hoping it is as easy to find as the OP intended . . .if not i hope I come back after I was forced to find this info on my own.
I would love some non loyalist (or even loyalists to some extent but not flooding) thread like this.
Thanks OP for at least trying.
Edit: Ok . . .so maybe I was a bit premature in my . . . . .rant. Sorry if this is the case.
I ran Legendary 4.0.1 since it was released and found it to lack nothing. I just switched to ACS 5.1 because the list of mods fit more with my preferences as well as I like the theme better.
Running legendary rom since v3 or so. Why? cause everything just seems to work.
For the theme, I flashed ics v1 on top of legendary rc1 and everything seems to work ok.
It's tough to find a rom with ACS/Legendary features that uses a no-theme approach like the clean GB rom. I'm on Legendary pre-RC because of the theming... and yes, I understand a different one can be flashed on top of it, but this seems to cause more problems than not from experience.
Anyone here remember Energy roms from the WM days? The cook offered them in no less than 6-10 flavors at a time with different kernel builds, homescreen utilities, themes, etc. Is this the only way to please both the "stock look high performance" and "themeed complete rom" crowds?
Not sure if you call this an EI22 Rom but çm7 is rocking my phone as we speak. I also liked starsky rom very reliable and great performance. CPK's Urban Tom is great yet there seems to be A ram leak which cause freezing. Not sure of the cause though, not blaming cpk or the IAP kernel though w/o proof.
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personally i use ICS 5.5 and CM7 because With the devs for ACS i know im in good hands. If a bug arises they fix it almost immediately. As for why i use CM7 thats not even a question IMO. It is the fastest rom you can put on this phone, and the only reason i have a backup rom is for when I need to use things that CM7 cant do simply because they havent been added yet (the number is getting smaller quickly.). I also would recommend trying out CompKids rom because it is a work of art. He tends to not update as much as a lot of the other roms but thats simply because there are a lot of other projects he is working on. But whats great about it is that it has tweaks and code that no other roms have. If you really want a stock feel though i think its safe to stick with Legendary Rom or even just Clean GB. Ive tryed both and though they lacked the theme customization I wanted they were incredibly stable and fast.
I was running Legendary Rom since switching from ACS Frozen Froyo rom. For some reason, the last two versions of Legendary did not agree with my Epic as there was a significant rotation lag. I switched over to ACS ICS for that reason, found that it resolved my rotation lag issue, liked the theme but most importantly all the functions I need to work work with ICS. CM7 still does not have WiMax working, which I use from time to time so it won't be flashed until then (run CM7 on my Nook Color).
Any godam rom that has the drop down drawer drop butter smooth is fine with me. Otherwise Pos.
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Any godam rom that has the drop down drawer drop butter smooth is fine with me. Otherwise Pos.
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Real talk.
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It's tough to find a rom with ACS/Legendary features that uses a no-theme approach like the clean GB rom. I'm on Legendary pre-RC because of the theming... and yes, I understand a different one can be flashed on top of it, but this seems to cause more problems than not from experience.
Anyone here remember Energy roms from the WM days? The cook offered them in no less than 6-10 flavors at a time with different kernel builds, homescreen utilities, themes, etc. Is this the only way to please both the "stock look high performance" and "themeed complete rom" crowds?
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Energy was as best as you got on WM. I liked the choices you had as far as the UI. But nothing beats Android OS in my mind.
I'm running SleeperROM for its stability and excellent battery life. It's a little bland as far as looks go, but I will sacrifice looks for performance. But I have put the nebula theme over it, and laid down Roboto font. This thing is a beast!
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Clean GB or ck23 UrBan Precision X
Clean GB is great stable and close to stock ROM ... ck23 UrBan is great if you like some cool theming on your ROM
I loaded the legendary rom which was very stable but very stock looking. I enjoy having something a little different. I am now running ACS ICSv5.1 with the honeycomb fusion theme. I love it!
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So far using stock OTA EI22 is the worst smart phone experience I've ever had. Did they even test this before releasing it?
As for the roms I usually flash... I like roms that is closet to stock as possible due to liking the stock widgets and stock apps. The only stock app that annoys me is nascar, sprint football, hd games store, Asphalt 5, and Telenav.
I'll probably be switching over to CM once all the bugs are squished, and I'll end up buying launcher pro plus for the widgets (I've heard they're really high quality).
EI22 is likely the last major update for our phones, and anything other than bug fixes is out of the question. If we are lucky, we'll get an official bug fix to EI22.
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I'm waiting for the freezing issue to get ironed out before I can go back to Urban. I really want to!
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Currently my Fascinate is on the default samsung 2.3.5 rom. I'd be plenty happy with it as im rooted and i have a MIUI launcher added, it's not as fast at actually running MIUI but i get great battery life and all the sensors work.... but then again i havent taken the plunge yet and installed any new roms yet. THe default rom has absolutely poor gps performance, and i know it can be improved as the vibrant i had before this phone had weaker reception yet with the proper driver was able to work great(samsungs default rom also was a big stinker on the vibrant).
that is why I'm here.
Im looking for the most bug free rom i can find, one that has working GPS.. i dont care if it is gingerbread or ICS, actually if drivers and stability are an issue, then i would guess that gingerbread will be more stable as it had official support... on the vibrant the lack of offical support made it very difficult to get stable roms. sensor drivers had to be hacked and made from scratch so things like the compass never seemed to work.
Please post your recomendations below, and where i can download... If your idea of a stable rom is one that has bad battery life, no compass, hacked buggy sensors ect... move on...
AOKP with Glitch kernel. The only thing that is not working properly is text message delivery reports. Everything else is great including all sensors (with latest fixes in glitch). Probably you will also need script for datadata partition moving (if you have lot of apps installed).
you'll get better battery life on superclean 2 gb as opposed to ICS AOKP/Glitch, not sure how GPS is on SC 2 though
I just put AOKP build 29 on my phone. super awsome man. I liked that the best out of all the roms i tried. looks great and way better than any other UI.
The SuperClean GB Rom +KGB Kernel is the most stable and fully working in my opinion. The CM9's are very good but still a little buggy.
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The SuperClean GB Rom +KGB Kernel is the most stable and fully working in my opinion. The CM9's are very good but still a little buggy.
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IMO no more buggy than any GB ROM. Unless you are a mez it show user. I'm still working on some little bugs there.
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IMO no more buggy than any GB ROM. Unless you are a mez it show user. I'm still working on some little bugs there.
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Exactly...eh03/ei20 roms have just as many minor bugs as anything ICS. I use my i500 daily and I need it to work. AOKP 29 bigmem w/ glitch is the setup I roll with. The random reboots, poor memory management, plus ****ty Touch Wiz is enough to keep me away from anything TW GB.
If I were still on a GB ROM I was very happy with TSM Resurrection 2.2 with KGB voodoo kernal. Im on a glitched AOKP b29 right now and I like it I ran into a few bugs but nothing big and its to be expected. What I like about the gummy ROM was the audio for me at least was sooooo much better but AOKP was much snappier and had smoother transitions IMO.
is better froyo 2.2 rom original or modified ROM is here?.
encuenta having all respects.
stability.
battery life.
speed.
performance with installed applications.
not crash all the time
customization.
etc.
and recommendations of the best rom for my Samsung T595 vibrant.
Hello there. if you have a vibrant it is a t959. I dont use froyo anymore since we have very good choices on gingerbread ann ICS. Iam on Skankwich CM9 Kang...very nice. You can find good choices if you search. Im my opinion a custom rom is better. You need to find out by yourself wich one you like and works better according to your needs. How? ...flashing!!
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I wouldn't run ICS if you don't feel like tinkering with your ROM. The GPS is inconsistent, and there will be little bugs every now and again as the developers continue to refine the base builds that will require you to keep an eye on the ROM you flashed for updates.
None of the bugs I found in ICS are real show stoppers depending on what you expect out of your phone (besides that encryption unsuccessful problem which is a big issue), but there were enough that I only flash ICS every month or so just to see how things are. I always come back to Froyo just for the sake of everything working.
Moped Ryder's EZ_Ryder/Slim_Ryder are good Froyo builds, but I, personally, always fall back to either Bionix-V 1.3.1 or Fishman's Bionix-V Mod with the DragonModz or Overstock kernel. That combo with the Holo launcher fits my needs just right.
Hey, if you're going for stability, battery life, speed, and performance...then a custom rom from the development is certainly better than stock froyo in my opinion. And..luckily enough, we have some great developers in the froyo department at the moment. I've tried a lot of Fish's builds and they are all awesome...but I had some of the best battery life and such on his updated Deranged rom
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565768
I was getting like 2 days worth of life while I was on that, and it was buttery smooth lol
But really, anything by Fish or Moped is definitely worth looking into my friend.
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Hello there. if you have a vibrant it is a t959. I dont use froyo anymore since we have very good choices on gingerbread ann ICS. Iam on Skankwich CM9 Kang...very nice. You can find good choices if you search. Im my opinion a custom rom is better. You need to find out by yourself wich one you like and works better according to your needs. How? ...flashing!!
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Froyo / GB is all I use for now. Dont forget the issues that come along with ICS and CM7 / 9.
1. A lot don't have working 911 (e911?) or inconsistant 911 with each build.
2. ICS from my knowledge still has the Encryption Unsuccessful bug.
3. For me at least gps works best on Froyo.
4. Possible mute/unmute bug (rare)
Those two are the deal breakers for me. Im a father of 3 so I have to have a working phone with 911 at all times.
btw - thanks for good word guys
If you find any old Froyo / GB rom and would like me (or Fishman) to update it to current status just ask.
If you want to try out Stock Froyo Id suggest the KB5 stock ROM I posted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674519
Its stock with lockscreens and a power menu added.
I am looking for a rom on this device to flash for a friend. Jb is hot on dev. However haven't seen any rom which could be a daily driver(with good battery backup).
My friend is not a power user and cannot flash roms daily which is y I am looking for a great lightweight from to be used as a daily driver.
Please suggest which roms according to you are most "stable" in your humble opinions.
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Just about anything froyo would be the safest bet for battery/stability and everything working.
I'm currently using axura fish/ryder mod and everything works flawless.
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Just about anything froyo would be the safest bet for battery/stability and everything working.
I'm currently using axura fish/ryder mod and everything works flawless.
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+1 I'm with the same Froyo ROM. Everything is just fine.
The latest CM9 is worth a try.
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Remics (ICS) is a really good ROM. They are currently working on a JB ROM that I'm sure will be great as well. I am running hellybean on both of my devices (daily). Except for GPS,( mine has never worked) it is great. The GPS works flawlessly on my captivate with this ROM. You might have better luck with it. Check hellybean out on dev thread and here is a link to remics ICS.
Here is a DL link for the ICS version: http://billionuploads.com/s5sfwymw536s
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Remics (ICS) is a really good ROM. They are currently working on a JB ROM that I'm sure will be great as well. I am running hellybean on both of my devices (daily). Except for GPS,( mine has never worked) it is great. The GPS works flawlessly on my captivate with this ROM. You might have better luck with it. Check hellybean out on dev thread and here is a link to remics ICS.
Here is a DL link for the ICS version: http://billionuploads.com/s5sfwymw536s
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I will checkout remics as u said... only reason y not cm9 n job is that u need some flashing experience in case u run into problems.. thanks for ur suggestions..
If anyone has other suggestions please do reply back..
I know I can fall back on u guys..
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Honestly it doesn't matter which ROM you flash, if you read and follow the op, you'll be OK. If not, you could get in a jam.
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Well having tried every OS version thats come out for vibe (2.1->4.1)...
-Eclair is just a downgrade from our froyo roms,
-Froyo works, batt life is good, theyre stable and the only issue i can find with it is the lack of later OS features, and the speed is somewhat mediocre (tho not slow),
-Gingerbread is FAST, and pretty stable (save for a random reboot once in a while).. my reason for leaving was the battery life; it sucked.
-honeycomb was just experimental lol.
-ICS was beast: stable, fast, feature-full and looooong batt life... then the encryption unsuccessful bug scared me off. If youre not aware of it, look it up cause its pretty serious.
-JB is what im on now and i can say its got everything but stability. It gives me random reboots somewhat often and bugs here and there. Sometimes programs will crash, FB crashes more often than not, and at one point my baseband/imei decided just to go away and i had to reflash during class with 20% battery just to get signal again.
Bottom-line, id stick to froyo if i wrre you, and for the record, im ddowngrading to froyo too when i have time
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Also not sure if the 911 issues are completely fixed for ICS / GB. (Ive been away for a while)
Safest bet for stability, battery life, and awesome GPS would be a Froyo [2.2 or 2.2.1] ROM.
I successfully used Moped_Ryder's Ez_Ryder Kb5 v2 (this is an older one) for MONTHS, until some idiot (me) changed the lock screen to the one that we were clearly warned about in the first post... After that I tried the Bionix-V FishmanMod V4 - was also awesome. I see there's a Moped_Ryder/Fishman mod'd bi-winning out there now too - that was one of my all time favorites...if it were me flashing for a friend, I'd start by looking at this one...
Now...OP...you said you're doing this for a friend - if I was flashing something for a friend, I'd...probably...pick one of the above, and be done with it. That said...
I recently flashed ICZen (have to go to rootzwiki to get that one) - which was pretty friggin' nice - I have since found a couple other vibrant owners using ICZen as their daily driver...both had someone else flash it for them...and from what I understand, they haven't had a problem yet - but if they do, you know who will be fixing it for them. Read carefully before considering this though.
Then yesterday...I was bored, and decided to try the 9/4 version of Helly Bean...GPS isn't awesome, I can't tell on battery life because I'm playing with my phone 10x as much as usual, but everything else seriously kicks ass. The email app is finally functional enough so I don't have to install touchdown (which isn't a problem...just...would prefer to be able to use the built in apps - personal preference). I'm keeping this one for as long as I can - but I'm also ready to ODIN to stock and/or flash another ROM at the drop of a hat...I wouldn't do this for a someone else...yet...
I have to cast my vote for REM ICS 1.3.1 UX without a doubt the best looking, most customizable, overclockable and snappy-est running rom I've ever used! I am desperately waiting for the iron clad version of their JB one so I am keeping with the ICS one for now. I use NOVA launcher which gives you great scrolling animations that makes my Iphony buds real jealous. It also allows you to customize buttons, switch to 5 x 5 spacing (or higher if you want) grid instead of stock 4 x 4 for icons and widget space, and gives you a scrollable bottom doc and all sorts of other great features.
Couldn't be happier with that combo. Yeah you might still get an occasional force close but they're real rare and always have something to with the 3rd party app. Everything it comes with works like clockwork for me. :good: REM ICS! Oh and it has the most beautiful startup animation!