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I Hope sprint is getting something to battle this, and I mean really good phones too

wow this is a good line up
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...-verizons-upcoming-tsunami-of-android-phones/
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wow this is a good line up
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...-verizons-upcoming-tsunami-of-android-phones/
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DAMN for real, still wouldn't go with Verizon prices are ridiculous unless you have a discount or your big ballin or movin weight or maybe just stupid

LoveisPeace2012 said:
DAMN for real, still wouldn't go with Verizon prices are ridiculous unless you have a discount or your big ballin or movin weight or maybe just stupid
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Yup so far the nexus and the evo 3d don't sounds so good if they don't have 4G neitheir :-(
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Only the Droid X2 and Droid Bionic look good. The rest are pretty much the same old.

jgalan14 said:
Yup so far the nexus and the evo 3d don't sounds so good if they don't have 4G neitheir :-(
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They will have 4G for sure, even though the nexus doesn't really bring breakthrough specs it sure is fasst, played with one at best buy

LoveisPeace2012 said:
They will have 4G for sure, even though the nexus doesn't really bring breakthrough specs it sure is fasst, played with one at best buy
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It sure is fast, as long as you're on wifi and not using sprints ****ty data network.
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Hrshycro said:
It sure is fast, as long as you're on wifi and not using sprints ****ty data network.
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I keep seeing the posts about sprints ****ty network...I just came from Verizon and I see no difference and sometimes better speed and coverage with sprint. Maybe its just my area. I know all places are different.

alnova1 said:
I keep seeing the posts about sprints ****ty network...I just came from Verizon and I see no difference and sometimes better speed and coverage with sprint. Maybe its just my area. I know all places are different.
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lucky. a lot of us here have horrible data speeds and have not figured it out yet. however, only the last 2 phones look good to me considering the tegra2. however, the nexus s and evo3d are looking hopeful. the evo 3d if it is the lg optimus 3d is insane! i would have a tough choice deciding between the nexus s and evo3d if that were the case

Hrshycro said:
It sure is fast, as long as you're on wifi and not using sprints ****ty data network.
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While they are upgrading their network

LoveisPeace2012 said:
DAMN for real, still wouldn't go with Verizon prices are ridiculous unless you have a discount or your big ballin or movin weight or maybe just stupid
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Seriously - I nominate this for quote of the YEAR! Classic!

I remember about a year and a half ago (when I was a Blackberry user) Sprint's 3g data speeds blew every other American carrier out of the water.
http://www.bgr.com/2009/08/08/carrier-wars-sprint-speed-test-results/
Then again.....that was a year and a half ago.

dude I'm freakin droolin over those 540x960 4.3" displays. Damn that is some pixel density.

thunderbolt...

I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.

Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener!
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You just saved me 500 bucks.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?

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Galaxy S II anyone?
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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Tkun said:
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything

Im probly still goin to get one I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
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I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.
It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.
I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...

ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.

deaffob said:
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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hardware isn't everything... source is everything.

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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.

Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.

deaffob said:
LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW

bigtlt said:
I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...!

Jrex said:
Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
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Tkun said:
Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster

Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
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TheSonicEmerald said:
I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!

For the people having second thoughts about the epic touch 4g

All I got go say is if you have a upgrade coming up soon this is the phone to get. If your worried about the lack of a physical keyboard trust me I feel your pain but after having this phone for about 3days already I can honestly say I don't miss the physical keyboard at all. This phone is so much earlier to root and install customs roms. The speed is incredible and with the right rom and kernel combo you can easily get over 6000 on the benchmarks score. Oh if your short on cash don't worry what ever corporate sprint store you go to they will buy back your old epic for 80.00. If you got an upgrade coming the touch is the way to go. Did I mention front facing video recorder. Well anyway it was indeed a pleasure being apart of this wonderful forum for over a year I hope to see you soon over on the epic touch forums. Take care.
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I'm more worried about LTE. My next phone must have it.
My area will probably never have a proper WiMax deployment but LTE is a sure thing and extremely exciting to say the least. I have some cool stuf to bring back soon.
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More than likely all the higher end duel core phones will have it.
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I know, hopefully I can get a quad.
edit: maps removed to not thread jack as much link to post in LTE thread

Nah, galaxy s2 is better, but wait for s3 LTE
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More than likely all the higher end duel core phones will have it.
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Why would people update only to be stuck on contract for two years with no LTE? Plus the keyboard is still a need for me or a bigger screen the Galaxy Nexus sized screen is looking good for me. You mentioned it was easier to root and install custom ROM on the ET4G how exactly can it be easier than a one click root on froyo or flashing clockwork mod on gingerbread, then flashing a ROM in clockwork?...also with CM7(which is official on our phone now) we get front facing camera video recording also. So I don't really see the need to get an ET4G
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Negatives:
-800x480 screen: So 2 years ago. 1280x720 AMOLED or bust.
-WiMax: They're not expanding to my area, so I'd rather go with the future LTE.
-Quad-Core phones are coming out. Higher performance ceiling at the same battery use, or even less with newer deep sleep modes.
My upgrade isn't until june, so I'll be going Quad-core.

While the ET4G is undoubtedly the best Sprint phone, I don't think it is worth using an upgrade on. The OG Epic is still a very good phone and is only getting better thanks to the great work of our devs. I will be using my upgrade on a quad core LTE 1280x720 monster phone. Probably the GS3.

Wait for an LTE device. Would be the best logical phone choice imo
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dtugg said:
I will be using my upgrade on a quad core LTE 1280x720 monster phone. Probably the GS3.
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Hell yes
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dtugg said:
While the ET4G is undoubtedly the best Sprint phone, I don't think it is worth using an upgrade on. The OG Epic is still a very good phone and is only getting better thanks to the great work of our devs. I will be using my upgrade on a quad core LTE 1280x720 monster phone. Probably the GS3.
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Yuuuuuuuup; I've decided this as well.
I bought my daughter (15 yrs old spoiled rotten brat, lol I kid) the Touch. sprint had a nice sale + her upgrade which made it a nice xmas gift.
I've played with it some and I do really like the Touch; for me personally, there isn't enough of a hardware change to switch ATM

3 words why not to get the Touch right now:
Ell Tee Eeeeeeeeeee!
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Yeah, wait for LTE, no need to upgrade yet.

im waiting for a nice solid htc.
im done with plastic samsung crap.

At this point I might as well wait until my contract is up in July and get the next generation of phones, which I hope have an LTE radio.

austin420 said:
im waiting for a nice solid htc.
im done with plastic samsung crap.
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I guess you never seen the POS EVO shift. 2 ounces of cheap toy plastic!
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Gavisann said:
At this point I might as well wait until my contract is up in July and get the next generation of phones, which I hope have an LTE radio.
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When it comes to electronics... I generally skip a generation!
Galaxy S waiting on Galaxy S III
iPod Touch 3G waiting on iPod Touch 4G (Maybe...)
Playstation 2 waiting on Playstation 4
2D TV waiting on 4D TV
2WD Car waiting on 6WD Car
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???

i was thinking about the white epic touch, but wouldn't use an upgrade for it, just the tax refund.

See a lot of people waiting on the GS3 but the 2 isn't that old, how long would it be till 3 comes out? Are there official mumblings of a 3 with specs n such or is this all just assumption?
No 4G in my area and who knows when I'll get it, not sure waiting on LTE is worth it.
*edit* also I wouldn't be using an upgrade if I did get a new one, just pay for it straight up. Store guys hate it when you get a phone without a contract though.
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Yup...quad core 2 Ghz. Around summer 2012.
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Realistic timeframe for ICS?

I'm wondering how long you guys think it will take for ICS to get ported to the Epic. I mean, realistically, it took us the better part of a year to get CM7 (and it's still only a release candidate). I'm pretty invested in this phone, having bought a car dock and game gripper for it. But it seems to be such an oddball in terms of development. My buddy's got a Fascinate, and seeing his 4.0 screenshots has been making me very jealous. Been thinking of trading in for a Nexus S or Evo Shift. Thoughts? And I hate to pimp, but if you've got either of those phones, and are looking for a Boost Mobile Epic, I'd consider a trade. PM me.
While it's on my mind, the aforementioned Fascinate guy stated that he gets 600k downstream on VZW when tethering, 1meg in good signal area. I've never even approached that...fastest I ever got was 200k, usually closer to 100k. Is this a difference in the radios between Galaxy models, or a symptom of VZW vs. Sprint?

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...and it's still only a release candidate...
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What do you mean "still ONLY a release candidate" ?
I stopped reading there, don't know why I came here anyway looking at the title its bound to be an ETA thread.
Anyway IB4L.
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1. ICS will take a shorter time than cm7
2. The nexus s is way better than the shift. The shift isn't pure Google and is reeeeeaaaallllyyyy slow
3. VZW. > sprint
Also, our cm7 RC works perfect. Everything works fine...
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I mean it ain't gold yet. Don't get me wrong, it's a huge step for this phone, but we could realistically be looking at a 12 month gap between the time when CM7 was official, to the time when it was official for the Epic. I don't think I'd enjoy waiting that long for CM9, y'know?

marcusant said:
1. ICS will take a shorter time than cm7
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Worth waiting, you think?
marcusant said:
2. The nexus s is way better than the shift. The shift isn't pure Google and is reeeeeaaaallllyyyy slow
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Good to know. I was playing with a Shift this weekend, and I kinda liked it.
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3. VZW. > sprint
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True, but 10x better?
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Also, our cm7 RC works perfect. Everything works fine...
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Except Wimax

ironcladlou said:
Worth waiting, you think?
Good to know. I was playing with a Shift this weekend, and I kinda liked it.
True, but 10x better?
Except Wimax
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I would wait for an LTE phone to come out before switching.
Read the thread about a wimax bounty (the last couple posts). Since you are on boost, you don't have wimax anyways, right?
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Yeah, and even if I could hack it together, there's no Wimax coverage where I am anyways. Here's the question, though...I'm sticking with Boost, and I doubt they'll be offering LTE anytime soon. Still wait, you think?

Still wait for quad core phones.
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ironcladlou said:
While it's on my mind, the aforementioned Fascinate guy stated that he gets 600k downstream on VZW when tethering, 1meg in good signal area. I've never even approached that...fastest I ever got was 200k, usually closer to 100k. Is this a difference in the radios between Galaxy models, or a symptom of VZW vs. Sprint?
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You live in an area with crappy Sprint service. I get around 1-1.3 mbps on 3G. If I am tethering it will be on 4G though (4-6mbps).

Playoffs? Don't talk to me about playoffs! Playoffs?!
ETAs are impossible....these guys have families and lives.
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kennyglass123 said:
Playoffs? Don't talk to me about playoffs! Playoffs?!
ETAs are impossible....these guys have families and lives.
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Lol! Too funny! I love that commercial!
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Last days

Counting down till s3 upgrade.....excited. First new phone that officially just came out. Its been awesome in this group no matter the ups and downs. Thanks for all the help, everyone. New developers, groups developers etc! Will pop in to check things out from time to time. Learned a lot! Thxs!!
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Yea I'm counting my days as well.should be in my hand in approximately two weeks from tomorrow
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Just got mine Saturday and love it. Will always miss my epic tho. It was a solid great phone.
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You all suck.
Traitors!
I may get a Galaxy Nexus next week off-contract.

I'll wait for a new slider because once jelly bean hits this phone its good for another couple months.. or month
sent from your mom's phone.

Picking up a GS3 from Verizon tomorrow. Sad to leave this awesome Sprint community and my first smartphone that actually lasted me the entire length of the contract. Also kinda sad that I'm gonna have to keep track of data and hope for workarounds with the Verizon version of the device. But I'll be saving money by jumping back onto my family plan (now that they all have data too, only gonna cost me $40 instead of $75 by myself on Sprint) and the improved signal and service should be nice as well. Thanks to all the developers and members here for doing some AWESOME stuff with the Epic 4G for sure!

I have a fun fact for you "upgraders". Your S3 is going to be new, shiny, and exciting. For us late bloomers who got the epic a year after you did, well, let's just say the LTE quad cores with unreleased swag and EPIC upgrades will make you butthurt. So there!!!!! Yes, I might be an idiot.
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Anyone know if radio shack sells while gs3
On the site they only have blue
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gtuansdiamm said:
Anyone know if radio shack sells while gs3
On the site they only have blue
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No. It is a Best Buy exclusive for a few months.
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gtuansdiamm said:
Anyone know if radio shack sells while gs3
On the site they only have blue
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Price match at bestbuy with radioshack's 150$ Gs3 deal and get the white Gs3

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Price match at bestbuy with radioshack's 150$ Gs3 deal and get the white Gs3
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They won't do it unless it is blue to blue. The model number has to match exactly. I had to swap my white for a blue to get the $50 back.
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kennyglass123 said:
They won't do it unless it is blue to blue. The model number has to match exactly. I had to swap my white for a blue to get the $50 back.
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Wow that's really a downer. I guess I'll got back into the escort business to get this money for that phone.

masaidjet said:
Wow that's really a downer. I guess I'll got back into the escort business to get this money for that phone.
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LMAO!!! thanks for your honesty dude

I got my white price matched with absolutely no issues, try it out... also I am returning the s III and waiting out for the Photon Q ... I thought I could do without the keyboard, but I miss it too much. I am not as productive with the virtual keyboard as I am with a regular keyboard. It's not even that the VK is soo bad, but I am more likely to put off things like enter calendar dates and take notes and reminders because it is more of a hassle than with a physical keyboard. It was also a bit too big for me to comfortably use with one hand.
Bottom line is if you are thinking about switching but are attached to the keyboard, you may want to wait for a little longer to see if another slider comes out. I think a 4.3" slider with a 720p screen would be absolutely perfect.

I just played with the GS3 and I have to say it doesn't feel as solid in hand as the gnex, gs2, and especially the evo lte. However, it seemed the most fluid of them all.
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RTbar said:
I got my white price matched with absolutely no issues, try it out... also I am returning the s III and waiting out for the Photon Q ... I thought I could do without the keyboard, but I miss it too much. I am not as productive with the virtual keyboard as I am with a regular keyboard. It's not even that the VK is soo bad, but I am more likely to put off things like enter calendar dates and take notes and reminders because it is more of a hassle than with a physical keyboard. It was also a bit too big for me to comfortably use with one hand.
Bottom line is if you are thinking about switching but are attached to the keyboard, you may want to wait for a little longer to see if another slider comes out. I think a 4.3" slider with a 720p screen would be absolutely perfect.
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Is the Photon Q going to have a locked bootloader?
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orlzzt said:
Is the Photon Q going to have a locked bootloader?
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Yes
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orlzzt said:
Is the Photon Q going to have a locked bootloader?
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Its MOTO
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b16flybye said:
I have a fun fact for you "upgraders". Your S3 is going to be new, shiny, and exciting. For us late bloomers who got the epic a year after you did, well, let's just say the LTE quad cores with unreleased swag and EPIC upgrades will make you butthurt. So there!!!!! Yes, I might be an idiot.
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Lol I am with you on this one I want to pull the trigger now but cost would kill me!
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kennyglass123 said:
They won't do it unless it is blue to blue. The model number has to match exactly. I had to swap my white for a blue to get the $50 back.
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Depends on the BBY. I walked in, asked some questions about the buyback and protection plans, then said, hey, do you price match Radioshack's deal; the associate called Radioshack, they said $150, he said okay. Color wasn't even a thing.
b16flybye said:
I have a fun fact for you "upgraders". Your S3 is going to be new, shiny, and exciting. For us late bloomers who got the epic a year after you did, well, let's just say the LTE quad cores with unreleased swag and EPIC upgrades will make you butthurt. So there!!!!! Yes, I might be an idiot.
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Or you could be me, and ball outrageous without a contract, at less than ANY contract price available... #comingsoon