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Return my Vibrant, then buy it again in October...Good idea????

I am going to return it because of problems of phone shutting itself off automatically. This is my 3rd one, and they all did this. If I wait till october (after 2.2), will I be buying a different phone (hardware wise), or the exact same thing? Maybe a newer batch will be less glitchy? (gps, lag, shutdowns)
i was wondering if perhaps the phones that are rolling out in october/november, will work flawlessly out of the box? Maybe some hardware changes?
Thing is i got a good deal on a 3 year plan (the worker at bestbuy messed up and gave it to me $50 less than what he's supposed to), and if i return it now (since the 14 day return expires tomorrow), i will pay $50 more for it if i decide to buy it again in october.
My carrier will put my hardware upgrade back onto my account, and i can buy whatever phone i want at a later date (WILL NOT BUY AN IPHONE...EVER). But i dont think any good new phones better than SGS are coming out soon...are there any? thanks

I got no lag, never ever had a restart and gps should be fixed to some extent. October you will see the g2, will it be flawless ? No nothing usually is..
The lag I hear about but don't have myself so I can understand that, but the restarts have to be something you installed or a lemon. I'f you had that happen on all 3? Definitely something you installed

Dude, what are you doing to your phone(S)???? I have never had my phone reboot/shutdown unless I was messing around with installing system apps from another rom... and that was a super easy fix.

$10 says OP had crap like setCPU on his or her phone. Samsung has already tried to make it harder to get into recovery and download mode.....hmmm I wonder why?

s15274n said:
Dude, what are you doing to your phone(S)???? I have never had my phone reboot/shutdown unless I was messing around with installing system apps from another rom... and that was a super easy fix.
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dont have any apps installed except for adobe reader. Someone mentioned it could be my sim card, so i changed it and it has not happened since...but...its only been 4 days, and this shutoff thing happens every 3 to 5 days anyways..so if i wait to see if it was perhaps my sim card all along, then it will be too late. «9refund policy).
If you go over to the captivate forum, you will see that many people (almost one third of people) have this issue. It could just be bad sim cards, but i dont know for sure.

Singhman said:
dont have any apps installed except for adobe reader. Someone mentioned it could be my sim card, so i changed it and it has not happened since...but...its only been 4 days, and this shutoff thing happens every 3 to 5 days anyways..so if i wait to see if it was perhaps my sim card all along, then it will be too late. «9refund policy).
If you go over to the captivate forum, you will see that many people (almost one third of people) have this issue. It could just be bad sim cards, but i dont know for sure.
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There you go, adobe reader. Be sure to give it a 1 star review, and I apologize for my previous rude remark.
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Not a god idea because more phones will be out at that time and you won't be able to decide. Like the person above me. If adobe reader is the only app installed then that's most likely the culprit.
Why not just use thinkfree pdf reader? Works just as god as adobe's.
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Your sd card may be corrupt too.

To answer the OP question, I think it's worth returning the phone even if you have to eat the 50 bucks. The G2 is coming out this month and the MyTouch HD in November. Both phones could be strong contenders. If you can hold out til then you might even be able to get the vibrant for a reduced price.

WOw dude
never had my phone reset
that's sounds serious

yea i find it hard to believe all 3 have the same problem did u buy them all from the same place? i know the phone has it's problem but Ive never herd anyone have one were it randomly restarts on them.

It is because of adobe, others have had the same exact problem.
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Chalup said:
$10 says OP had crap like setCPU on his or her phone. Samsung has already tried to make it harder to get into recovery and download mode.....hmmm I wonder why?
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why do you think setCPU is a crap app?

Had the same problem with mine uninstall adobe and I'm good. Use thinkfree or vudroid
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*charles barkley voice*
Man, thats turrrrible..

I'd be less eager to point fingers at Abobe, personally. Userspace (i.e. non-kernel) code shouldn't be able to lock up phones in this manner. I can understand slating SetCPU - over-clocking is never guaranteed to be safe. But simple apps like a PDF reader? Even utilising SetCPU to just scale down CPU clock speed should be absolutely safe...
I've had my phone now for just under a month and in the last week it's developed this issue where it'll crash/shutdown when left idle. And no, I'm not running any stability-compromising apps, zero mods, nada. Not even rooted it. Just stock firmware and a handful of apps - apps I've not even run since installing them weeks ago. And for what it's worth, I wiped my handset this evening and after roughly 15 minutes of being left idle while I was eating dinner, it died again.
Now I've not got a Vibrant myself; I'm an SGS owner. But if you search the Samsung sub-forums here at xda-developers, or do a Google search, you'll find hundreds of Vibrant, Epic and Galaxy S users who are reporting exactly the same issues. Which leads me to think that this really has nothing to do with userspace code at all. Instead it points back to Samsung's sloppy business practices of releasing Android-based phones before they're fully cooked...

Got this from Sprint today on their forums

got this from a "sprint rep" on their forums
TiNy-2nz -
I apologize for the frustrations associated with the current issues with the GB release... Please know that we are aware of many of the issues people are experiencing and are working with HTC to resolve them. Although I don't have a time frame now, they will be sending out a patch to resolve issues associated with your device.
SOOO take it for what its worth and maybe there is a hair of hope .....
TInY

hope this is true.
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I had a prompt to download an update today. I skipped cuz I'm still holding out for root on this update that I'm on. I'm not actually having issues other than I can't root...
sent from my 2.3.3 unrooted piece o ****....

I was also prompted for an update today, after just being prompted for the GB update the other day. I was hoping maybe they were being true to their word and unlocking the bootloader.
It was a rather lengthy update process with two reboots involved.

tiny2nz said:
got this from a "sprint rep" on their forums
TiNy-2nz -
I apologize for the frustrations associated with the current issues with the GB release... Please know that we are aware of many of the issues people are experiencing and are working with HTC to resolve them. Although I don't have a time frame now, they will be sending out a patch to resolve issues associated with your device.
SOOO take it for what its worth and maybe there is a hair of hope .....
TInY
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hope this is true.
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Not to sound like a douche, but I think it's pretty obvious that Sprint & HTC plan on releasing an update that would fix the problems presented with the GB update.

There was the 4.22 update,GB
Then the 4.24 update,GB fix,
Are you guys saying there is a 3rd update being pushed?
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I'm wondering the same thing...I've already had two updates. I took both of them because I like my evolution stock, only reason I ever rooted my hero is because Sence made it sluggish.
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at this point in time....i am not confident that we will have any sort of solution in the near future, we will simply have to deal with this horrible android version of gingershitbread, i never tought id hate the awsomeness that is an EVO , but currently...i kind of do, clearing user data, resetting,done it all, it still sucks arse and glitches half the dam time,its horrible, if id have known i would have stayed with stock 2.2 (not because of root but because it actually friggin functioned better)

I waited a couple weeks and did the rooted stock rom, 4.24
Have had no issues after a full week of use.
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the more i think about it you think he said that just to shut me up and so the sprint forums dont get filled up with posts about it ??? I dunno; like the corp store told me; "as long as you can make and recieve calls there is nothing wrong with your handset"
IT suxx to be stock its like having a maseratti that only goes 55MPH

[Q] Gotta be a way to stop this BS,Android Frameworks/Acorn fc

Im gonna try to make this short because im sure alot of people have expirienced this.
Almost every Epic rom i ever flashed sooner or later i get "process com.google.process.gapps has stopped unexpectedly" or "Android.process.acore" fc or some similar bull**** that has to do with Google Frameworks usualy.
Like today i started getting Frameworks fc,so i cleared date/cache for almost all apps trying to fix it.I rebooted and now on top of Frameworks fc i get Android Acorn fc and Gingerbread MTF fc!
So im like fck it im just gonna do system restore(which i was trying to avoid).
Did system restore wiped data/cache/sdcard/dalvic cache 3 times and what happens?I get same damn Google Frameworks/Acorn/MTG fc's after reboot!
Only way to fix this problem is to reflash the rom.
What causes it?IDK,i suspect its bacause my girlfriend(bacause it happens mostly when she has it) lets the phone's battery die while txting/calling but my roms are Journaled so that shouldnt be a problem,right?
Anyways is there a fix/prevantion for this sht without having to reflash?
Just when i think i found the right rom it happens again.This happens sooner or later on any rom,or is this something that android users gotta live with?
Update:
WTF i just reflashed and now im stuck at Samsung logo,i guess its Odin time and hate to say this but might be WP7/WebOS/iPhone time.

Don't mean to be a deuscher or anything but have you tried deodexed stock? Never had those issues on my heavily modified stock before.. (Might as well be my own cooked rom, though changed/tweaked realtime with my cell on) lol. =)

Shinydude100 said:
Don't mean to be a deuscher or anything but have you tried deodexed stock? Never had those issues on my heavily modified stock before.. (Might as well be my own cooked rom, though changed/tweaked realtime with my cell on) lol. =)
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Thanx,im might try that.I think it might be ext4 that does it because i dont think i had them problems on rfs-i cant even remember last time i used rfs.
I kange my own roms too but i always prefered to use lightweight roms like Syndicate for foundation.But if stock rfs is more stable than it will be a good trade.

I always get gapps errors when I copy something to the system\app folder. I have started to use flashable zips instead and clear Dalvik before booting and have not seen that problem again. It doesn't sound like you are doing any of that but any theme or mod that is flashed and doesn't wipe Dalvik may cause this as well. Hope this helps. You may also just have a finicky phone...lol.

My phone isn't rooted and I got that. Fo me it had to do with the gmail app sync. Once I stopped that no more fc. I use the samsung email app that on the phone now.
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I blame my girlfriend too.
Sent from the future.

Take this how you want. I had this problem span over 5 nand backups one day, 5 that I knew where all good when I did a backup (and had restored before with no FC's. Then one day on eg22 all hell broke out, I was doing so much that day I can't narrow down what happened. Then I restored a backup,,, what, still getting framework fc's; Tried another, then another. 5 times same problem. I odined back to DI18 and let it OTA, then installed cwm and restored my laszt backup. Everything has worked since.

I have this problem every so often on srf. Only fix I know is to reflash the rom then restore a backup. This usually happens when my phone reaches 0% and dies. Has happened over 10x
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lviv73 said:
i suspect its bacause my girlfriend(bacause it happens mostly when she has it) lets the phone's battery die while txting/calling but my roms are Journaled so that shouldnt be a problem,right?
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Journaling isn't a panacea.
When there's sudden power loss (battery pull or death) on a journaled file system, the file system should be in a consistent state on bootup, but individual files can still become corrupt.
If that happens, doing a "Clear data" on all apps that force close should fix it. In the worst case, a "Factory data reset" should work as well, without having to resort to a reflash.
I don't know if RFS does full data journaling or not, but I suspect it does. Anecodtally, these types of issues appear to be much rarer on RFS, which is part of the tradeoff to RFS suffering from additional lag (to ensure writes happen timely).
As general advice, if you are going to run ext4, journaled or not, avoid power loss as much as possible.

puff601 said:
I have this problem every so often on srf. Only fix I know is to reflash the rom then restore a backup. This usually happens when my phone reaches 0% and dies. Has happened over 10x
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Just as i suspected.It happens on rfs too or just ext4?
I would think thats what Journaling was for so something like this wouldnt happen.
So this is a problem on any android phone i take it,google needs to fix this.
What regular nontech people supposed to do?System restore everytime their phone dies?lol.

mkasick said:
Journaling isn't a panacea.
When there's sudden power loss (battery pull or death) on a journaled file system, the file system should be in a consistent state on bootup, but individual files can still become corrupt.
If that happens, doing a "Clear data" on all apps that force close should fix it. In the worst case, a "Factory data reset" should work as well, without having to resort to a reflash.
I don't know if RFS does full data journaling or not, but I suspect it does. Anecodtally, these types of issues appear to be much rarer on RFS, which is part of the tradeoff to RFS suffering from additional lag (to ensure writes happen timely).
As general advice, if you are going to run ext4, journaled or not, avoid power loss as much as possible.
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Thats exactly how i tried to fix it,wiping data and cache on all system apps and all that got me was even more unfixible fc's.
For example:After i cleared cache for frameworks i started getting more anoying Gingerbread MTF fc every 20 seconds,lol.Yeah i tried clearing Gingerbread MTF cache/data and i still got the fc's even after system reset.
Now i see why Android is not doin good in corporate world,people need something reliable.

lviv73 said:
Thats exactly how i tried to fix it,wiping data and cache on all system apps and all that got me was even more unfixible fc's.
For example:After i cleared cache for frameworks i started getting more anoying Gingerbread MTF fc every 20 seconds,lol.Yeah i tried clearing Gingerbread MTF cache/data and i still got the fc's even after system reset.
Now i see why Android is not doin good in corporate world,people need something reliable.
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How many 'Berrys on corp accounts do you see that are as heavily modified as our androids??? And to be fair, the Epic still really isn't even 'done'... by the time they released EC05, it was pretty obvious that they were already planning GB, so maybe after GS2 launch, we will get source, CYM, Miui, etc... and a stable stock rom of course... then i can feel comfortable giving this to my GF when I get a GS2 I love my epic, but I hate her intercept more than any phone I have ever witnessed. Point is, kind of a bad phone to use as reference for relating it to business phones, also as we are on a hack site, most companies either prefer or insist you dont **** with their phones. I think it has been said that android will be getting more and more stable... by what, everyone? You just happen to have an early adopter phone, we are the guinea pigs who pay for R&D and find the flaws. The way the android world is shaping up, it looks as if its only getting better. I love that I was in work training, for a relatively technical position, and all but 2 out of 12 people had androids, the others had iphones and little to contribute to the BS discussions.

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How many 'Berrys on corp accounts do you see that are as heavily modified as our androids??? And to be fair, the Epic still really isn't even 'done'... by the time they released EC05, it was pretty obvious that they were already planning GB, so maybe after GS2 launch, we will get source, CYM, Miui, etc... and a stable stock rom of course... then i can feel comfortable giving this to my GF when I get a GS2 I love my epic, but I hate her intercept more than any phone I have ever witnessed. Point is, kind of a bad phone to use as reference for relating it to business phones, also as we are on a hack site, most companies either prefer or insist you dont **** with their phones. I think it has been said that android will be getting more and more stable... by what, everyone? You just happen to have an early adopter phone, we are the guinea pigs who pay for R&D and find the flaws. The way the android world is shaping up, it looks as if its only getting better. I love that I was in work training, for a relatively technical position, and all but 2 out of 12 people had androids, the others had iphones and little to contribute to the BS discussions.
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Easy man,lol.Im only stating an article that i read on one of the android sites about android os not doing good in corprate world and ios and bb beating them at it.

Lviv, did you read everything in the rom's you installed? I'm pretty sure as someone mentioned in this thread somewhere it said turn of sync. These rom's are built on leaked sources. Unless your on froyo none of gb rom's are built on an official release.
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Lviv, did you read everything in the rom's you installed? I'm pretty sure as someone mentioned in this thread somewhere it said turn of sync. These rom's are built on leaked sources. Unless your on froyo none of gb rom's are built on an official release.
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They all froyo.This just happened to me on Revolution rom which is really nice if not the best i used so far.It also happened to me on few Syndicate roms and Bonsai and few more.
Plus i always have my sync off or just background data on,i never leave auto sync on because it drains battery.
Like someone said on here its brobably because phone's battery reaches zero while performing some task or Sprint spyware removal might have something do with it or ext4.
Im gonna try rfs and stock and see what the problem is.
Its just rediculous because my roms never lasted for more than two months without this happening,and as someone stated before that it happened to them even on stock unrooted phone.
There are threads all over the internet on this problem with different fixes that mostly dont work.

I experianced the same thing with two different roms this week and went back to acs bamboozle with eho6 modem and its all working perfect now.
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Random shutoff

This is my girlfriend's phone and she's telling me that her phones randomly shutoffs and she doesn't know when it started. I had her clear her cache to see if it makes a difference but nothing different happened. Any ideas?

marioc89 said:
This is my girlfriend's phone and she's telling me that her phones randomly shutoffs and she doesn't know when it started. I had her clear her cache to see if it makes a difference but nothing different happened. Any ideas?
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Are you running the stock ROM or a custom one? In my experience these things typically happen when overclocking the CPU or low RAM. If you are running stock the answer may not be so easy unless there are several apps with very high RAM & CPU consumption running. However with 3GB of RAM it's kind of hard to see that.

It's stock. Nothing has been done to it whatsoever. She said also that, sometimes she would bump it just by handling it that it would shutoff. So the only thing I can think of is maybe an app that she downloaded that's causing this. She also stream movies in her phone by way of a third party torrent. So hope me telling you this will get some gears going.

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It's stock. Nothing has been done to it whatsoever. She said also that, sometimes she would bump it just by handling it that it would shutoff. So the only thing I can think of is maybe an app that she downloaded that's causing this. She also stream movies in her phone by way of a third party torrent. So hope me telling you this will get some gears going.
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If just bumping it causes a shutdown than that sounds hardware related, no app would do that. It could be some damage in there. Sometimes it's a defect, age or a stiff knock to the ground can do it if you don't have a good case. That's a worse case scenario because once these things start it's all downhill. If you have someone locally that repairs phones, take it to them & get a quote. If they want anymore than $100 I'd get another phone.

Ok. But what about it just random shut off? The bumping of it is just some times.

Only thing else I can tell you is to open the task manager and see how much RAM is being used. If it's running near full capacity as in 2.7 or 2.8 find out which app is the memory hog and dump it. This is just grasping at straws because like I said, I don't see this device crashing frequently like legacy devices do.

Ok. Will do and I'll post back.

Sorry for being slow. Would that be under storage?

marioc89 said:
Sorry for being slow. Would that be under storage?
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No, just long press the home key. Then when recents pop up select task manager, then RAM.

Nothing that she has on her phone isn't anything out the ordinary thars using a lot of ram. What she has in there isn't contributing to her random reboot because those apps were on there before it started doing this. Her Android version is 5.0. I don't know if a older version could be contributing to this. When I asked her to check for updates, it just told her no updates available at this time, check back later. So now what?

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Nothing that she has on her phone isn't anything out the ordinary thars using a lot of ram. What she has in there isn't contributing to her random reboot because those apps were on there before it started doing this. Her Android version is 5.0. I don't know if a older version could be contributing to this. When I asked her to check for updates, it just told her no updates available at this time, check back later. So now what?
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The OS is fine, 5.0 is what I have and I have had no issues. I have read in some other posts around here from people who upgraded from KK and later had problems, mine shipped with 5.0 already installed. If you want to downgrade to stock 4.4.4 there are threads around here to tell you how to do it. If the issue persists after that I'd start shopping.

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Nothing that she has on her phone isn't anything out the ordinary thars using a lot of ram. What she has in there isn't contributing to her random reboot because those apps were on there before it started doing this. Her Android version is 5.0. I don't know if a older version could be contributing to this. When I asked her to check for updates, it just told her no updates available at this time, check back later. So now what?
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If you haven't already. ..factory reset the phone. She'll have to reload contacts and apps...but if they're backed to to Google...they will be reloaded once she signs in with her google account.
The factory reset has "fixed" many issues with upgraded phones.
And then there is the obvious...is the battery properly seated?
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donc113 said:
If you haven't already. ..factory reset the phone. She'll have to reload contacts and apps...but if they're backed to to Google...they will be reloaded once she signs in with her google account.
The factory reset has "fixed" many issues with upgraded phones.
And then there is the obvious...is the battery properly seated?
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Ya. I didn't think about that. We'll do that and see what happens.

Before factory resetting the phone, will it lose the ability to be unlocked?

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Before factory resetting the phone, will it lose the ability to be unlocked?
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Not sure what you mean by "unlocked" since none of the Verizon phones were SIM locked. If you mean "rooted," you said it was on Android 5.0....that can not be rooted, so it's not rooted now.
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Meaning it can be used with any other carriers, domestic or internationally.

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Meaning it can be used with any other carriers, domestic or internationally.
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All Verizon Note 3's are SIM unlocked. You can use any carrier's SIM...but...you may not be able to get 4G LTE data because other carriers may use frequencies not available in the Verizon Note 3. Check with YOUR carrier first.
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Ok great. So resetting it isn't a factor. I'll check the frequency.

samsung good lock UI on note 4 " i love it"

Good Lock UI
a few days ago i ran across an app called " samsung good lock ui" it was originally only available for note 5 , s6, s7, and the edge variants. but the article i was reading was from a user who side loaded it on his note 4 and was successfully using it on his Note 4. Since then it has been made available for the Note 4 on Samsungs Galaxy App Store, although I believe its still not officially supported for our devices,
Now I have been using it for at least a week so far. and it is a little buggy still, but they are updating very frequently to address the bugs. there are a few things that can cause it to lock a user out of the phone of which I will explain haw to deal with these issuess the best I can.
I've helped a few users with their issues already and really went through the app and its settings. I installed and uninstalled many times and did everything I could to recreate users problems so I could try to figure out ways to deal with those problems. along the way Imalmost positive that Ive found the few problems still there and the way around them.
I WILL STRESS THAT THIS APP HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REALLY CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS. In my opinion they should state that it is still in BETA form.... BUT , you install at your own Risk!!!
THE MUST AND MUST NOTS.
1. fingerprint and password lockscreen security options cause an inability to unlock the phone once restarted...
( to assure you dont have problems , REMEMBER!!! Before installing MAKE SURE that you are not using the fingerprint or Password lockscreen security options, Pin and Pattern seem to be ok, but I would just switch to swipe lockscreen before installing or uninstalling...)
2. When uninstalling the app you MUST ABSOLUTELY UNINSTALL FROM INSIDE THE APP... Good lock settings > Uninstall.....The App has caused serious problems for others if not uninstalled properly....(I have installed and uninstalled lots of times with no issues, which leads me to believe the issues are user created.)
3. If You want all the settings, color scheme, and changes to stick after a restart, Then make your desired changes to the default routine, instead of creating a New Routine..... I believe this Bug is a conmon one that will likely be fixed in the next couple updates.
(if you dont use default, then when you restart the color scheme reverts to default )
LOCKSCREEN LOCKED OUT FIX..........
Fix for if you forget to change to Swipe lockscreen before you install the app and get locked out our your phone...
if you try to use fingerprint.or password or forget to change it to swipe before installation. It will not have a way to unlock it normally, (there wont be a keyboard or the fingerprint text prompts: Just your wallpaper and access to the notifications).... if this happens you should still be able to pull down notifications on the lockscreen that does appear.
Pull down notifications, then pull down a second time to bring down quick settings. At the top Right you will see some icons, from left to right you should see Battery and Pecentage, the Search, then App Settings, then the regular settings icon. The App settings icon next to the regular settings icon is what you need to tap if you cant unlock the device. If you are locked out and you push this icon it will recognize the GoodLock UI is causing an error and will disable good lock UII and ask you to restart the device. When it reboots, you should be back to TouchWiz and able to unlock like normal,...
There is lots more to discuss and im sure lots of help needed so im glad to help if i can......

Please see the Overdrive thread. I'm still 15 hours in pain trying to remove this malware. Caveat emptor. I don't know how responsible it is to invite this disaster. If you are locked hard out like me, there is no way to get to the notify pull down and you are Tango Uniform. I cannot install any ROM now without horrific problems.
Please read.
1) If you are anyone who uses the well respected/tested Smart Unlock, even when deactivated and uninstalled then AVOID
2) Installation changes/corrupts SystemUI (check before and after) even when you are able to not be completely locked out and you are able to think you have uninstalled properly.
3) Installation/deinstallation changes firmware beyond anything a full and complete wipe can address. Full wipe three times, including system and data - it is still there.
4) if you don't mind losing all the user interface enhancements from custom ROMs to go back to a stock Samsung TouchWiz look, go for it. Don't understand why one would do that. Effectively Good Lock is TouchWiz plus with a lock-in change to SystemUIand other parts of firmware. Thank you Samsung.
Bottom line: many have suffered. Not just the ratings of a long time xda'er like me. Please search around. I'm glad hey likes it. It has wasted a dozen hours trying to dislodge it. Starting from scratch, scratch. Back to ODIN seems the only way to stamp out Bad Lock.

Rudolpht said:
Please see the Overdrive thread. I'm still 15 hours in pain trying to remove this malware. Caveat emptor. I don't know how responsible it is to invite this disaster. If you are locked hard out like me, there is no way to get to the notify pull down and you are Tango Uniform. I cannot install any ROM now without horrific problems.
Please read.
1) If you are anyone who uses the well respected/tested Smart Unlock, even when deactivated and uninstalled then AVOID
2) Installation changes/corrupts SystemUI (check before and after) even when you are able to not be completely locked out and you are able to think you have uninstalled properly.
3) Installation/deinstallation changes firmware beyond anything a full and complete wipe can address. Full wipe three times, including system and data - it is still there.
4) if you don't mind losing all the user interface enhancements from custom ROMs to go back to a stock Samsung TouchWiz look, go for it. Don't understand why one would do that. Effectively Good Lock is TouchWiz plus with a lock-in change to SystemUIand other parts of firmware. Thank you Samsung.
Bottom line: many have suffered. Not just the ratings of a long time xda'er like me. Please search around. I'm glad hey likes it. It has wasted a dozen hours trying to dislodge it. Starting from scratch, scratch. Back to ODIN seems the only way to stamp out Bad Lock.
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I am the one who started it in the ovrdrive thread as well, that's why i stated all the warnings...
with that said I've looked around. the only place I've seen any problems like what you describe
is in that thread..Nowhere else can i find much of anyone having problems.
i absolutely think that whatever problems you and very few others are having are user error. as long as you don't use fingerprint or password it works infallibly. i mean no disrespect and i apologize if what i say is disagreeable to you, but i have used this app and 4 other friend's that have the note 4 have used the app for at least a week or so with absolutely no problems.....i will reiterate....ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS.... uninstalling reinstalling, flashing and reflashing over and over again...in fact i can even do what i warn others of and use fingerprint or password. i can let it get locked up and undo it every time... no matter what i do i cant recreate the problems you say you have .and i have tried on 5 different note 4s. i am not saying you are not having the problems, i just think either there is something different or wrong with a few devices or the problems are induced by the user somehow, or there's a mod or an app on those few devices conflicting with good lock....
AGAIN I DO WARN ANYONE USING THIS ....THEY DO SO AT THEIR OWN RISK...
but I'm positive that most users will have a pleasant experience and i think a few people having problems with the app is far from proving problems with the app.
SAMSUNG GOOD LOCK is a complex app that modifies the system ui and as such i think its not as user friendly as a normal plug and play app.
that being said i am not promoting the app ...i just like it and think others will too...
if anyone does want to try it. and wants to b sure of no problems let me know , I can help you set it up properly
and anyone trying to uninstall it or having problems with it let me know and I'm sure i can salvage your setup with out 15 hrs of struggle( that's just beyond me) , but I'm sure i can get you into a device that's been locked up by good lock

and please if you know of someplace where i can find the issues you speak of or others experiencing problems of any kind outside of the overdrive thread here, point me in that direction ., PLEASE. i have searched everywhere looking for users with bad experiences and cannot find any. I've exhausted all the keywords i can think of to search for issues with the app.
THIS APPLICATION IS ATTACHED N BETA AS STATED ON GALAXY APP STORE

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i absolutely think that whatever problems you and very few others are having are user error. as long as you don't use fingerprint or password it works infallibly.
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INFALLIBILITY? I used a pin and removed it before installing good lock, and it rebooted and denied access. So much for your infallibility. It is a FALSE claim.
I really don't understand why you denegrate users. YMMV would be a good contention. Saying there are no issues uninstalled correctly but saying its a BETA so all bets are off is talking out of both sides. Giving a surgeon general like warning then saying it really has no problems is the other two sides.
For everyone who loves locked down TouchWiz next gen, great. It's a big world with different preferences. I celebrate that. I'm sure many people that want to avoid custom ROM user interface benefits may be jazzed by a new Samsung software product. Fine. Like you, many may love it. Hooray. Some may have no uninstall issues. Cool man, more power to you. Saying there are negligible users with negligible issues (see google) is only rude.
WHEN INFALLIBILITY FAILS, CALL IT BETA.
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@Rudolpht since you've completely ignored post #4 I'll be blunt and conclude that problem isn't with software, ones and zeros but with you. You've been offered a helpful hand by a user and just spat back I his face. Both threads. KEEP CALM AND KEEP GOING. You remind me of a lady (bystander) that couldn't stfup when I crashed. I told her I'm fine but for the next 30min she couldn't stop, as if she was hurt.

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@Rudolpht since you've completely ignored post #4 I'll be blunt and conclude that problem isn't with software, ones and zeros but with you. You've been offered a helpful hand by a user and just spat back I his face. Both threads. KEEP CALM AND KEEP GOING. You remind me of a lady (bystander) that couldn't stfup when I crashed. I told her I'm fine but for the next 30min she couldn't stop, as if she was hurt.
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Thank you. Same logic. The software is great, the user is the problem. Yay new Samsung.
There has been NO help. No fix. No way out of a hard loop other than start from scratch. Just pretend there isn't a systemui change. Pretend firmware hasn't changed. Pretend there isn't a persistent change to the device that even a wipe won't fix. If you cant pretend it's beta.
But you are very helpful. Thank you.
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No way out of a hard loop other than start from scratch.
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But it's a start. Come on man, you don't seem like a first time user. Starting from scratch is what you sometimes have to do. Yeah it sucks but it still gets you going.
You should know the risks, they are posted all over xda.
Just talk to neo and let him help you. He offered help if you read it. Have a drink/smoke/girl/jerk/etc relax and go at it again till you resolve your issue, with neo guide you as fellow man/user.

im not normally a big fan of touchwiz at all, but as of late the features chat its always had up on other overlays have actially been usable with a custom TW rom that is as smooth as it should have been from the OEM.
the aesthetics is what its always lacked in my opinion, this good lock, will "Eventually" be a good looking option to change it to or at least in my opinion. i stated it had problems right from the beginning....
Everyone should read on their own and decide wether or not an app has developed to a point of their satisfaction so they are willing to risk installing it.
i just saw it and thought some others might be interested and stated my experience with the app that's all i can do. i don't want anyone making the mistake in thinking I'm promoting or even trying to spread the word at all about this app. i just dig it and wanted to share that .
beyond that i noticed some problems and have been able to fix most of em or get around them anyway. maybe i cam help someone else with these problems, because i know even without me the app would have been installed by note 4 users and my experiences might help some one. if not , i tried..
its still running perfectly on my device. for a beta that's not supported on our phones anyway.
its worlds better than stock that's all that matters to me. i cant stand the TW blue and yelwew notifications colors, and i really don't like that its so hard to change colors or backgrounds, icons, text, and every thing else, without hacking in the theme store or really going into theming yourself. something like this implemented right could be a good solution. and i guess a built in app to modify the theme and system ui would be a good next step from the theme store

In description it says beta.
Quickly tried it to see what all the fuss is about and if it would turn my world upside down. It didn't. Uninstalled from within.
I like them shortcuts on the bottom. I think jelly bean JB was the one that had . I liked it, used it and missed it. Instead of 4-5(forget) we now have downgrade of two, phone and camera:angel:
The rest isn't my cup of tea. It's not bad by any means. I've seen and used similar quick settings / notification pull-down in either aosp or cm like two years ago, or so.
With time I've seen dislikes/comments of TW and I've tried cm, aosp, and also top launchers, go/nova/apex/etc. I liked sense in HTC and do like TW in Samsung. Personal preference.
I think it's a great option and some would enjoy it. Hope it develops and becomes stable. Not that I've encountered any problems in 5 minutes of testing install/uninstall.

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But it's a start. Come on man, you don't seem like a first time user. Starting from scratch is what you sometimes have to do. Yeah it sucks but it still gets you going.
You should know the risks, they are posted all over xda.
Just talk to neo and let him help you. He offered help if you read it. Have a drink/smoke/girl/jerk/etc relax and go at it again till you resolve your issue, with neo guide you as fellow man/user.
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Grumble. Good point. Ok. Just don't like the jerk reference (even if I can be one [emoji15] ), and don't like being called a dope for not being able to clean uninstall when clearly Samsung messes up the device.
Hatchet buried. To each his own. I take/took responsibility for installing and shooting myself in the foot.
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Rudolpht said:
Grumble. Good point. Ok. Just don't like the jerk reference (even if I can be one [emoji15] ), and don't like being called a dope for not being able to clean uninstall when clearly Samsung messes up the device.
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I didn't call you a jerk
Read the whole combination of/ / those words, stress relievers.
Not to be explicit, I meant do what ever that calms you down and relieves your stress, so you can resume/continue at fixing your device with a clear head.

xda_johndoe said:
I didn't call you a jerk
Read the whole combination of/ / those words, stress relievers.
Not to be explicit, I meant do what ever that calms you down and relieves your stress, so you can resume/continue at fixing your device with a clear head.
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Knew that, just emoticon unschooled and how to address in polite company. (My jerk point was self depreciation on the noun vs verb.

Rudolpht said:
Knew that, just emoticon unschooled and how to address in polite company. (My jerk point was self depreciation on the noun vs verb.
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:angel:
I have to watch myself to "abide by rules" of different forums. But even in life, profanity, calling someone female dog or genitalia, and alike is last resort for me. If at all.
Since I can get under someone's skin without it. But generally we all are humans. And I lean towards to respect, foolish the person is or not.
since I'm not perfect myself as all
Watch any available stand-up of Bill Burr on YouTube. Brutal to some, reality for others.
Anyway. Hope you got your device going.
Btw trying to offend or degrade someone, first of all, shows to others what's in your head/mind. Thus actually makes you vulnerable.

All cool.

I have installed good lock once on my Note 4, SM-910G India.
After i installed the fone gets restart and when inprove unlock password(since its showing fingerprint stopped working) it freezes for 1 minute and restarted back to normal and uninstalled automatically.
I think it was due to compatibility issues with note 4. But the look was awesome like stock with good colours.
Any chances Samsung might release officially for Note 4? ?
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I've rolled back to older version.
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I will never try it, even if I was given Note 4s to trash, but it appears like there is a new fav 24.0.9 out for S5 plus ROMs.
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I liked the concept, but no sync quick tile

Is the UI more stable now?? I'll be getting my note 4 today and I want to know if all the bugs been fixed and it won't be buggy or anything like that ??