Hi all,
I did a few searches before this and it seems like no one else has asked about this yet. My goal is to get some type of external radio working on an Android phone in hopes to learn more about the system and possibly get a USB LTE radio talking to Android. I know most of the phones use usb Micro which supports a host protocol but I don't know if the Android system supports it.
My first goal would be to get a usb wifi dongle or 3g dongle working. My reasoning is because those have linux drivers so maybe I could try to get the driver on the android phone? Just my thoughts.
Does anyone think this is possible? Thanks for any help.
PS: I am aware that I would need an adapter to make the dongle fit to the micro usb port.
SO far I have been able to get host mode working on a nexus one. Now I need to get into adding different kernel modules compiled. Does anyone know a good guide to follow to ge me started? I did a quick google search but it didnt really turn up anything other than compile the actual Android Kernel.
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave
dvhttn said:
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it.
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mrkite38 said:
I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it. ...
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
LargePrime said:
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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That would be lovely though .. Ill try it later ...
Let us know how it goes.
Back in the day I had an HP iPaq that didn't have WiFi built in, but I could connect it to a wired network via a small adapter that functioned as a nic. Hypothetically you could find or fashion such a device to function over mini-USB, and then write some drivers to get it to share data with an attached computer. Just my 2c.
If you want to write drivers, you have a whole new level of complexity.
USB port of a router is a known cheap solution.
I'd have to second the OP's idea, as it does have merit. Hopefully the work on getting the USB Host working can show some results in the future....
However, I'm in the same boat, where I have a Nook Color running CM7 I use as a tablet, and an N1. I'm also on business in China a lot, and I prefer to use the NC in place of a laptop, although in some places wireless is flakey or non-existent. In those scenarios I'd rather not use the N1 as an access point using the 3G network to run data, as it adds up quick, even when using China sim cards.
It's these situations where a means to connect an android device to a physical ethernet is desirable, whether by USB or by wireless to a dongle.
This is the one device I'm testing out now is a CQR-980 from Cnet. You'll have to google it, because I can't post links.
The reason for this unit is it's size (its 3.52 (L) x 2.32 (W) x 1.06 (H) inches), and full support for setting up a secure wireless environment. If it works right, I will pre-configure it as an access point with WPA2, and it should be able to be plugged into any ethernet port in a hotel or otherwise, and I should get an IP on the NC or N1 via wireless.
If anyone else has found a better way to make this sort of setup work, would love to hear of it. The fewer devices I have to bring the better. Yet this is still better than dragging even a small laptop around.
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
The Phone got to have specialized hardware to enable it to use just that USB to RJ-45 cable.
But in my experience, I could be wrong about it. Don't know what the R & D guys will cook up next.
This could make the job of having RJ45 connected to USB?
http://www.cnetusa.com/eng/CQR-981.php
Also this seems interesting:
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
Will it work with an ASUS Transformer (Honeycomb 3.0)?
I have looked around a lot on the web for the MicroUSB to RJ45 Ethernet on a Droid, no luck. I have small hardware devices that have embedded configuration servers that are only accessible via TCP/IP Ethernet RJ45 ports and I normally use my netbook for that. I thought it would sure be cool to be able to access those embedded servers via my Droid2G for example, and get rid of the netbook. It seems like the phone can do almost everything else.
I've read about USB host mode etc, and the mini dongles with NIC's in them seem more promising, but I guess there has not been a big enough need for the guru's to go after it. Aparently it may available on the Android 3.x tablets but no able to backport to Android 2.x? Verizon will likely never upgrade my D2G OS.
dvhttn said:
You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
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What if you used this but also used a usb extender so you could plug in the phone cable to the usb to rj45.? Then all that would be left would be the drivers.
With the exception of cybdroid's situation I think that a little wireless ap would work great. I have a little netgear wgr101 that works great.. you connect it to a rj45 port in the motel, and then wifi from the phone or laptop.
The reason i'm on this tipic, is I was thinking rj45 to rj45 on a copier. Then I can set same subnet, and ip range with a crossover cable(or ipx on on the copier). Then I wouldn't have to use a full laptop to troubleshoot...
now i'm not an apple fan but redpark has something for the i- series of apple products to do exactly what i'm curious about... you can check it on the tech journal.
Now that I spend some time reading and thinking, I might even be able to use my little wgr101 if i figure out a hosts file in the android os to direct traffic through the router. And, if I don't have to wear out the usb jack on the device, all the better.
I think I have my problem fixed, just went ahead a posted this as it might give someone else an idea. Might be a solution that even the op enjoys entertaining... I think op#2 and frayedends are on the right track.
Hi,
I have an usb dvb-t stick (of the family A867 of avermedia, the nano 3d), can you tell me where the drivers are installed in the honeycomb for the iconia a500?
When I it connect to the iconia, from the terminal typing the command smesg, I can see that it recognizes the device but does not have the drivers
What makes you think drivers exist? If there are Linux drivers available, you might be able to port them, but then what? You'll also need an app capable of decoding the data from the device, and tuning in to the needed frequencies. Such a thing doesn't exist on Android at the moment.
ok, thanks for reply
db-t
FloatingFatMan said:
What makes you think drivers exist? If there are Linux drivers available, you might be able to port them, but then what? You'll also need an app capable of decoding the data from the device, and tuning in to the needed frequencies. Such a thing doesn't exist on Android at the moment.
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Drivers exist ! DVB-T is functioning on Archos 101 (Froyo). They have an app that scans (livetv.apk as i remember well) the dongle. Look for internetadresses at the thread i opened a week ago. Unfortunately í'm not able to adapt the existent drivers for our tablet. The last driver i wrote was to connect a Teletype to a Z80 processor so now you now i'm a digital dinosaurus.
My "Cinery T USB XE" works on my Acer Iconia A210.
I have done a channel scan with droidTV.apk. Found channels, but have a very high error rate, so it*s don't see anything.
Is any one working on an app for DVB ? Maybe someone can tell how to crosscompile an binary? Or maybe can tell me how to configure toolchain paths for compiling successfull????
Because of the USB port, A500 could become more powerful. Now I just see it support the HID. But I see the keneral source, It should support more devices? True?
The problem though is drivers for the hardware. That's some roms here support the 3g modem and others don't. If we could compile the drivers into android friendly drivers, then theoretically yes, it could support more hardware-
Nick
Hi, I am interested in buying a cheapo windows 8.1 with bing tablet and need help picking one from ebay. I will want to format and clean OS install
Can I have a recommendation on a model.. Budget no more than $300 Australia Dollars or around the 240 US.$
I am an IT techie so I know the ins and outs of installing os onto laptops and desktops.. i inderstand BIOS's and understand technology fairly well.
Tho never actually used a portable windows device. Do most of these devices have bios like a desktop? Startup selection hdd vs usb hdd etc?
I will want to end up deleting the recovery... Delete the android os if included and install 8.1 with bing clean, or eventually purchase a 8.1/10 pro for business use.
If I can have some info on whats good and whats not, i would really appreciate that.
Chuwi Vi10 64GB + Keyboard around $255 shipped to Australia from Gearbest.com
Cheapest one I could find. I myself is wanting this tablet, but might want to wait till Cherry Trail tablets are out.
Currently have a Voyo A1 Mini 8" Tablet. Win10 TP, removed android.
can you tell me how you went about doing this?
do these hand helds operate like a computer? same sort of bios settings?
how do you enter bios on your model?
is it anything like changing roms for mobile phones like samsung galaxy for example where you need USB cable connected and download roms onto it? or it is actually a fairly simple operation?
you can install drivers? where did you source them from?
any other comments would be great...
toxsickcity said:
can you tell me how you went about doing this?
do these hand helds operate like a computer? same sort of bios settings?
how do you enter bios on your model?
is it anything like changing roms for mobile phones like samsung galaxy for example where you need USB cable connected and download roms onto it? or it is actually a fairly simple operation?
you can install drivers? where did you source them from?
any other comments would be great...
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I look into it as a handheld portable PC.
UEFI is what most Windows Tablet is using.
Installation, operation and use is exactly as you would expect it as with other Windows PCs, limited to its own hardware, and/or the OS you put on it. Search Ubuntu/Linux on chinese tablets.
You should do your assignments more before delving into this.
On a personal level, I can see myself selling my i3 15.6" laptop (I only retro game, and used mainly for Java, Visual Studios and non-hardware heavy) and my Voyo A1 Mini tablet, to get a good 2-in-1 PC. I need/want a more compact portable PC. And same as you, I've got a VERY limited budget.
To share to you my current requirements (deal-breakers if not met), and must not be lower/missing, to completely replace the said above PCs:
1. 64GB internal capacity (eMMC 5.0, better yet SSD) (higher capacity will be more than welcome)
2. HDMI output
3. Dock-in Keyboard supported (hate bluetooth keyboards)
4. At least 1 FULL USB slot (hoping a USB C tablet will be released soon)
5. A dedicated power input socket
6. Have decided to wait for Cherry Trail CPUs (hoping to be released end of September to holiday season)
7. Decent capacity for battery
8. 2GB Ram for an x86 OS (4GB on x64 OS) (more is more than welcome)
Optional:
Keyboard dock to have output sockets too (usb), built-in battery. similar to Asus T100. Hopefully newer tablets will have full x64 OSes.
Still.. to each their own, on how they'll be using the device/s.