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3.2 to rooted 3.2

Hi Guys, i own an A501 for one week now, running 3.2 (already installed when buying it).
I understand that it is not possible to root or downgrade 3.2.
But, and here comes my question: Why isn't it possible to use the recovery-function to install an already rooted 3.2?
People trying to downgrade to 3.1 or lower get an error message, but when they re-flash 3.2 their tablet is running again.
So why can't we just re-flash an already rooted 3.2?
Regards
Carsten
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DerTeufel said:
Hi Guys, i own an A501 for one week now, running 3.2 (already installed when buying it).
I understand that it is not possible to root or downgrade 3.2.
But, and here comes my question: Why isn't it possible to use the recovery-function to install an already rooted 3.2?
People trying to downgrade to 3.1 or lower get an error message, but when they re-flash 3.2 their tablet is running again.
So why can't we just re-flash an already rooted 3.2?
Regards
Carsten
Sent from my A501 using XDA App
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SPCIIW, but I believe the "rooted 3.2" ROMS are all using the 3.1 bootloader, not the 3.2 bootloader, and that's why you can't flash to a rooted 3.2

OMG... another completely meaningless post??? PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!!!!

I understood your question well, so here's the answer.
You can't modify the update.zip file from Acer in any way because when flashing it verifies each file against a file where there is a list with the files to be installed and their CRC, if you modify or add something the flash fails.
Trying to use other already rooted customs rom is no gonna work, because they changed the boot loader to recognize only Acer roms and updates files.
Hope it helps you.

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kekinash said:
I understood your question well, so here's the answer.
You can't modify the update.zip file from Acer in any way because when flashing it verifies each file against a file where there is a list with the files to be installed and their CRC, if you modify or add something the flash fails.
Trying to use other already rooted customs rom is no gonna work, because they changed the boot loader to recognize only Acer roms and updates files.
Hope it helps you.
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That would be wrong. I install a rooted 3.2 rom from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1232545.html
Long as you have CWM installed. And I installed Thor 3.4 to OC and my tab works like a charm. So its possible to do.
*admit I'm not sure if this Tom has a 3.1 boot loader however it works great. Let me know if you need further help.

I'm talking about somebody who already did the update to STOCK 3.2, not about customs roms. Try to flash a custom rom after you are in stock 3.2 and see how it fails the flash.

kekinash said:
I understood your question well, so here's the answer.
You can't modify the update.zip file from Acer in any way because when flashing it verifies each file against a file where there is a list with the files to be installed and their CRC, if you modify or add something the flash fails.
Trying to use other already rooted customs rom is no gonna work, because they changed the boot loader to recognize only Acer roms and updates files.
Hope it helps you.
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And locked the bootloader again, which is why we don't have root once again. The Eepad has already been rooted for 3.2, but since most of the DEVs in the a500 forums have left for greener pastures, I'm not certain we'll see root for 3.2 anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong?

kjy2010 said:
And locked the bootloader again, which is why we don't have root once again. The Eepad has already been rooted for 3.2, but since most of the DEVs in the a500 forums have left for greener pastures, I'm not certain we'll see root for 3.2 anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong?
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I'm obvious not a Dev but please explain how fguy rooted this 3.2 rom. Its an Acer 501 stock rom. No mods other then the rooted part and the two full version apps. Granted its a "custom" rom however it the best waynto get root access with 3.2 all the updates. I'm in south Africa and the 3.2 update hasn't even hit here yet. So this is the best option for me. And I'm sure for alot of others.

shambooi said:
I'm obvious not a Dev but please explain how fguy rooted this 3.2 rom. Its an Acer 501 stock rom. No mods other then the rooted part and the two full version apps. Granted its a "custom" rom however it the best waynto get root access with 3.2 all the updates. I'm in south Africa and the 3.2 update hasn't even hit here yet. So this is the best option for me. And I'm sure for alot of others.
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I'm pretty sure he used the bootloader from 3.1 on a stock 3.2 ROM. I'm using and it's flawless so far (relative to stock ROMs).

Thanks for the answers, hope to see a posibility to root 3.2 in the near future
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kjy2010 said:
And locked the bootloader again, which is why we don't have root once again. The Eepad has already been rooted for 3.2, but since most of the DEVs in the a500 forums have left for greener pastures, I'm not certain we'll see root for 3.2 anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong?
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Where are these 'greener pastures' to where all the Devs have gone?

mac4402 said:
Where are these 'greener pastures' to where all the Devs have gone?
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In the xoom or transformer sections.

mac4402 said:
Where are these 'greener pastures' to where all the Devs have gone?
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Google android tablet forums, as I don't believe we're allowed to post to other forums, especially the ones where certain DEVs went
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SoHaunted said:
In the xoom or transformer sections.
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Hardly. You let me know when you see a former A500 xda DEV in the xoom or tranny forum will ya please?

kjy2010 said:
Google android tablet forums, as I don't believe we're allowed to post to other forums, especially the ones where certain DEVs went
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Hardly. You let me know when you see a former A500 xda DEV in the xoom or tranny forum will ya please?
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Do you mean we could find the way to root the 3.2 A500 on some other forums ? Because if they simply moved away from this one, I guess they certainly did not stop developing ??

Didn't take too long... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
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[Q] Iconia A500 3.2 update - Bee with Exclamation sign above

Iconia A500 3.2 update - Bee with Exclamation sign above.
Im running the update and when the device reboots and as it progresses a honeycomb bee with a triangular sign with an Exclamation mark in it appears...
The installation does not progress any further and i have no idea what to do. I can reset my system but it says update fails and continues on 3.1.
Any ideas/thought/suggestions?

I have the same problem !

luis.cz said:
I have the same problem !
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If you care about root and having CWM installed I would not update to stock 3.2 using OTA. Just grab one of the 3.2 updates in the development thread so you can retain root. But if just want plain stock 3.2 and you have CWM installed, you need to revert back to the stock recovery first otherwise it will fail.

synapses11 said:
If you care about root and having CWM installed I would not update to stock 3.2 using OTA. Just grab one of the 3.2 updates in the development thread so you can retain root. But if just want plain stock 3.2 and you have CWM installed, you need to revert back to the stock recovery first otherwise it will fail.
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OK, thanks

Same problem wihout root. Any suggestions what the problem could be?

im thinking if it's because you have a rooted device? I had the same thing. But do not ever update to 3.2 OTA. I would recommend a stock rooted 3.2 in the Development thread. Easy flash. Flying rom.

profipix said:
im thinking if it's because you have a rooted device? I had the same thing. But do not ever update to 3.2 OTA. I would recommend a stock rooted 3.2 in the Development thread. Easy flash. Flying rom.
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Umm yeah, he clearly stated he wasn't rooted, not to mention it was 23 days ago
zahni_tue said:
Same problem wihout root. Any suggestions what the problem could be?
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Although this is an old thread, I think other solutions for those who were not rooted were to make sure you have an sdcard entered... I think....

Where did he state that? I haven't seen that.
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zahni_tue said:
Same problem wihout root. Any suggestions what the problem could be?
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profipix said:
Where did he state that? I haven't seen that.
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Ya think?

My Iconia won't let me restore to any ROM
I installed the Samsung Galaxy Tab firmware 3.1 on my Acer A500 but now it's not letting me change my ROM's anymore
If this isn't posted in the right place please tell me where to post it because I don't know
Please help

david.manske said:
I installed the Samsung Galaxy Tab firmware 3.1 on my Acer A500 but now it's not letting me change my ROM's anymore
If this isn't posted in the right place please tell me where to post it because I don't know
Please help
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Just to be clear. You installed a ROM that was made for the GTab, and not made for the A500, or you installed a custom ROM for the A500 based off of the GTab?

I own an A500 but I installed a custom Rom based off the GTab

[Q] Can 3.2 Stock Out of the box be rooted and how?

I just rec'd the new A500 8Gb version that already has 3.2 installed. So this is not the normal 3.2 OTA, which maybe the same. Don't know how to confirm.
I have read so many posts that appears to be rooting instructions for 3.0 and not for 3.2. I see one Thread that had instructions on how to root a OTA 3.2 but the instructions even says will take 1.5hrs. I have rooted tablets/phones before and i know it doesn't take that long and don't want to lose data.
I don't want to install a custom rom just so i can be rooted. I just want to root this tablet and i don't want to downgrade the bootloader.
Can anyone please point me to the correct thread or simply let me know if rooting is currently out of the question for this scenerio.

im on the same page, just picked up the 3.2 from costco.. A little common sense points me and you in the direction of downgrading to the 3.0.1.. Then bumping up to the rooted 3.2.. its not a one click solution but it makes complete sense..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
im doing it as i write this let you know my success..

Yeah I have read that an option is to downgrade to 3.0, root then go to 3.2. Guess i'm waiting on a short version that will root stock 3.2 and it doesn't make sense to me to go back only to go up versions of rom for this alternative route.

lol its data, not like your trading in your new car for a 87 nova.. Downgrade is for exploit access only as soon as root --> update recovery ---> flash rom you will be right back to 3.2..
:-/
anyways method 2 works.. did it in 15 minutes cause i got distracted..
good luck waiting for ur 1 click

cool, so i guess this is the best solution for now....i'll do the same.

IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
Its pretty hard to hard brick but please , don't take that as a challenge...

The vanishing keyboard ...
ultramag69 said:
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
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Agree; first hand experience ...

ultramag69 said:
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
Its pretty hard to hard brick but please , don't take that as a challenge...
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lol wish I had known that when I rooted mine, I was freaking out scouring the interwebs for an apk of it when I downgraded cuz I couldn't use the damn keyboard
sent from my Acer Iconia A500 beast of a tablet via XDA app

I found out the hard way too, got the OTA update of 3.2 installed, then got the acer recovery installer downloaded. Was a colossal waste of time...
Thought I'd let others know, easier than having to stuff around yourself and hoping you can recover...

Thx for the heads up guys, i did install the acer recovery. Now i know why you need it since that 3.0 downgrade is very unstable. I did manage to root, install CWM and flashed a 3.2 rom.

I used this... straight root no downgrade required.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
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[Q] [LEAK/DEV][ICS 4.0.3] Acer_AV041_A500_0.009.00_WW_GEN1 Q&A

I don't have enough posts to add to the thread in the Dev forums, so I will ask here.
My Iconia A500 is not rooted, I don't feel that I needed it to be rooted most of the time. Now that is out of the way, I have questions.
Is there a version of this Dev leak that I can flash if I don't care about rooting or recovery? I believe the version he leaked is a CWM or RA recovery flashable only, so I would need the original untouched release.
If I do flash this, I should be able to flash future versions correct, or possibly the final version of the ICS release?
Essentially I would like to use this release on my tablet without caring about root or recovery, but I also don't want to screw myself for future releases.
Is it possible to reflash back to an old Honeycomb release?

You might not be able to post in the dev thread, but you can read it. All your answers are in there, most are even in the OP!

Jilaman said:
I don't have enough posts to add to the thread in the Dev forums, so I will ask here.
My Iconia A500 is not rooted, I don't feel that I needed it to be rooted most of the time. Now that is out of the way, I have questions.
Is there a version of this Dev leak that I can flash if I don't care about rooting or recovery? I believe the version he leaked is a CWM or RA recovery flashable only, so I would need the original untouched release.
If I do flash this, I should be able to flash future versions correct, or possibly the final version of the ICS release?
Essentially I would like to use this release on my tablet without caring about root or recovery, but I also don't want to screw myself for future releases.
Is it possible to reflash back to an old Honeycomb release?
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If you don't care about root or recovery, than it is best you stay stock, and wait for OTA updates. This will keep you relatively safe.

Take a deep Breath this could turn out to have issues and not be complete.. There is only reports that it is flash-able.This does not guarantee that is will Run properly.As its a Acer development rom leaked to the public..
I will try it after there are 2 or 3 more days of comments.If it seems to be working well.I must have Root. Hope the post above mine has helped.
JUST Think if it does not pan out you can be one that said IM SMART I WAITED..
GOOD LUCK . DONT CROSS THE STREET WITHOUT LOOKING BOTH WAYS.

This rom is very easy to be flashed on the a500, dear erica_renee. I've done it tonight and I did come, like you, from the latest version of the unrooted Acer stock ROM.
In order to do this, you must:
- flash from your PC, a rooted rom version 3.2 on your tablet with the little app "DotNetDetecter". You can download it from somewhere on XDA Iconia A500's developers threads but I don't remember in which thread I found it.
- install the app "Acer Recovery" (free on the market)
- download the zip of RA recovery (You'll find the link in the Vache's thread) and install this recovery from your CMW recovery you've installed with the rooted rom 3.2 in the first step
- download and install from the RA recovery the ROM ICS that you can download on the website of Vache... Choose the "RA recovery" version of this ROM.
Very pleasant version, this ICS ROM ... but the low volume defect when I record sounds is still present...
Again and again I'm more and more convinced that this problem comes from the LOW QUALITY of these microphones !!!

castafiore said:
This rom is very easy to be flashed on the a500, dear erica_renee. I've done it tonight and I did come, like you, from the latest version of the unrooted Acer ROM.
In order to do this, you must:
- flash a rooted rom 3.2 on your tablet with the little app "DotNetDetecter". You can download it from somewhere on XDA Iconia A500's developers threads but I don't remember in which thread I found it.
- install the app "Acer Recovery" (free on the market)
- download the zip of RA recovery (You'll find the link in the Vache's thread) and install this recovery from your CMW recovery you've installed with the rooted rom in the previous step
- download and install from the RA recovery the ROM ICS that you can download on the website of Vache... Choose the "RA recovery" version of this ROM.
Very pleasant version, this ICS ROM ... but the low volume defect when I record sounds is still present...
Again and again I'm more and more convinced that this problem comes from the LOW QUALITY of these microphones !!!
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are you saying that you flashed the cwm version of this on a a500.or do you have a501 Or are you using the non rooted full rom version.. And yes the mic issue i agree with . Considering going to Black box and buying upgraded mics and install . but i dont use it that much.

I have an Iconia A500, renee and I flashed the leaked Acer ICS stock ROM that Vache proposes on his website.
The link is on the first page of his thread.

castafiore said:
I have an Iconia A500, renee and I flashed the leaked Acer ICS stock ROM that Vache proposes on his website.
The link is on the first page of his thread.
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ok .
now can you go to the root for a200 thread and follow that procedure and see if it will ROOT For you..
this could be the solution if so..
Thanks in advance...

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to lose my current bootloader and the ability to flash custom roms, so I'll just wait.

I'm just waiting for someone to confirm they can return to 3.2.1 via apx mode, once confirmed ill flash it
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M..N said:
I'm just waiting for someone to confirm they can return to 3.2.1 via apx mode, once confirmed ill flash it
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I to. have the instructions downloaded and waiting.. Better things come to those Who Wait..
Impatience is often followed by hardship Turmoil.
Wow that was good even for blonde chic..

Why do you fear not being able to go back to honeycomb ?
ICS a real improvement, for me. Google chrome is a great browser too.
These are my first impressions anyway. Very good, very pleasant.
But, if you're not in a hurry, you can wait one more month, of course.

castafiore said:
Why do you fear not being able to go back to honeycomb ?
ICS a real improvement, for me. Google chrome is a great browser too.
These are my first impressions anyway. Very good, very pleasant.
But, if you're not in a hurry, you can wait one more month, of course.
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Just in case anything happens it would be good to know if we can revert. When you flashed did you lose all your data, and anything not working in the rom?
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M..N said:
Just in case anything happens it would be good to know if we can revert. When you flashed did you lose all your data, and anything not working in the rom?
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I MUST have root access. that is all..
may i ask if you have checked the fallow..
GPS.
Can you tether to a android ad-hoc network
does Ti Backup work.
Does email exchange work.
I could go on but i will not .. THANKS IN Advance

No root on ICS (yet?).
I guess that you will loose it as well when you will install this Rom as an update by OTA...
I don't really need a root on my tablet, personaly, except when I want to test a custom Rom.
There is maybe a solution to keep the root anyway. Check in the thread of Vache.
Apart from that, everything works better than ever for me (gps, tether through my htc Desire, caméra, etc ... except the recurrent prob with the microphones ).
I don't use Titanium backup (that needs root, isn't it?) but MyBackup pro.
Email exchange? Do you mean the app working with Outlook on Windows? I don't use it neither. I use gmail and I import my other accounts on gmail. Sorry. But my email accounts (pop) work perfectly well.
Everything works very well actually with this Rom. I didn't notice any problem till now. No way to go back to HC...

I wonder if Thor has this yet. He is probably the best a500 ICS dev right now.
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M..N said:
I'm just waiting for someone to confirm they can return to 3.2.1 via apx mode, once confirmed ill flash it
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Just to let you know. I have flashed with the full 4.0.3 (not CWM/rooted one), and then used the first method here to restore back to 3.0.1, then installed CWM to install a ROM without any problems. I have since updated to 4.0.3 full again as it's by far the best ROM for me.

Ny the way, I noticed this morning that the ability to disable bloatware has been added to the stock ics rom via app section of settings, so one less reason for me to need root.
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Antarell said:
Just to let you know. I have flashed with the full 4.0.3 (not CWM/rooted one), and then used the first method here to restore back to 3.0.1, then installed CWM to install a ROM without any problems. I have since updated to 4.0.3 full again as it's by far the best ROM for me.
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Thanks Antarell,
This is good to know for people who would be nostalgic of Honeycomb
By the way, there is a simplier way to go back to HC with a root. That's the one I've used several times with no bad issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539

This leak flies. Its awesome. Actually makes me not care about losing recovery. I really couldn't ask for more from this. At least we know there's a way back if we really need it.

[Q] Does it Need to be root ?

hi everyone, i'm a501 user and decided to use Alexandra V ROM..
My question, do I need to root my a501 before install the ICS bootloader ? Now i'm using official HC 3.2.1 and never experienced in rooting.
If rooting is necessary, how to root official A501 HC 3.2.1? Maybe gingerbreak 1.2 ?
thanks before

gigacats said:
hi everyone, i'm a501 user and decided to use Alexandra V ROM..
My question, do I need to root my a501 before install the ICS bootloader ? Now i'm using official HC 3.2.1 and never experienced in rooting.
If rooting is necessary, how to root official A501 HC 3.2.1? Maybe gingerbreak 1.2 ?
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Well, rooting is generally the first step. HOWEVER.... you will need to;
a. Flash the ICS patched bootloader
b. Flash a CWM or Public Recovery
c. Have the Alex V.zip already on your external SD Card, that way, it is ready to install after doing the above 2 steps.
Now the current Alex V you can run a simple root after install, so rooting now, is rather not necessary. Also, you might want to wait 3 or 4 days. We just got a new ICS update today, that if works well, I will change out the Rom version. Probably Sunday if all goes well. Will save you the time of re-installing the rom again.
The only reason you would want to root right now, would be to install a CWM and make a backup of your current system., In case you ever wanted to go back to HC. But note; HC roms do not run on ICS bootloaders and vice-versa. Also, The CWM's will be different for ICS. So it's sort of like once you commit to ICS, you go all the way, and never back to HC (you can, but who would want to).
Oh yeah, don't use Gingerbreak. It will probably bork things up. As of 3.2, rooting became a little difficult.
So in the meantime, while you wait, you can read this thread as it contains instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
Note that the above procedures (manual or automatic) usually work about 90% of the time. Seeing you are currently on stock 3.2.1, I don't foresee an issue. Any questions, post them in the instructions thread.
MD

Ok MD, thanks for your explanation, so i don't need root my current ROM to install ICS boot loaded right?
Thanks a lot
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gigacats said:
Ok MD, thanks for your explanation, so i don't need root my current ROM to install ICS boot loaded right?
Thanks a lot
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You shouldn't. The bootloader program uses NVFlash, which is initialized before the OS starts. The only requirement I believe is USB Debugging must be turned on in the system settings, but that's really more of a precaution than anything. I've not used these programs, as I did it a long time ago the old fashioned way. AKA semi-bricked my tab..... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Heck, I didn't even "have" an OS, and got the bootloader and CWM installed
Read the stuff. Understand what you're getting into.
And.... Get your current UID number and write it down somewhere safe. This is really your only protection if something goes bad. Usually it doesn't but you will also need it during the process.
When you get ready to do this (after I hopefully have a newer version in a few days), you can post in my thread for help. Got some good guys there with 501's that can lend some advice.
MD

Sory MD, I haven't got permission to post in your thread due to lack posting.. I have installed v8-thor. 1.7. 3_recovery.A500apx, now I still able to boot into my HC ROM. but now I couldn't find any cwm mod recovery.A500apx to install in my tab. How then?
Thank you very much
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