No offence intended by the title of this thread, but I've noticed that all of the latest rom releases are all pimpin out sense 3.
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing. Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
Honestly, sense is pretty useless for me. Laggy, a resources hog and huge performance loss.
CM7 rules.
I also find this very disturbing/slightly annoying. However since I'm not a dev I'm still grateful for the wide variety of ROMs available.
That being said I found the stock Sense ROM to be awesomely quick but in my "the grass is greener on the other side moment" I removed it and put on some others... I'm now on CM7 and waiting for ICS AOSP for the DHD.
I guess it's just because everyone tends to build on the newest base available. Once some Gingerbread RUUs leaked everyone started building with them, and it wasn't long before the remaining Froyo builds stopped being actively updated. Same thing has happened now with Sense 3 - test builds have leaked and people have moved on, and if/when an official update comes out you'll struggle to find any actively maintained ROMs using earlier versions. The same thing will happen with Sense 3.5, then Ice Cream Sandwich, then who knows.
You can't fight progress.
Well...
At first I thought the sense 3 ROMs were pretty laggy in rosie, but with the super smooth and liquid smooth patches, and all the work done by others, I feel that they're now as smooth as they were always meant to be =)
Apart from that, if you want super silky smooth over nice transparent looks and still be very functional, I'd suggest MIUI with a nice theme. I went to the SCI MIUI ROM a while back and it's amazing, although for a change now and then I do go back to a sense ROM for a week or so and I'd recommend looking at the liquid patch.
Sense for nice looks, along with whatever patches our amazing devs come up with for speed and functionality.
MIUI with custom launcher for a fantastic compromise between AOSP speed and looks, along with that fantastic pull down and battery (and did I mention the speed?) (Also, I think I might be bias towards this)
Cyanogenmod for pure speed and battery
But anyways, that wasn't the point =/
Sense 3 with the patches is as smooth as sense 2 was, and most things like the 3d and bloated-ness can be got rid of or are the same as sense 2 =) Plus you can activate the scrollable wallpaper in some of them
Edit: Sorry that is a rant and a half.
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To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing.
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No one asked you to come to XDA. If you don't like what's on offer, develop your own. The Dev's develop what they want, they just happen to share it with everyone else.
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Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
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Perhaps not, If you like LeeDroid 3.3.3 & ARHD 5.2.6, stick with them.
Also I could see a few people being unhappy labelled as "Sheep", just because they want the latest & most current versions.
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No one asked you to come to XDA. If you don't like what's on offer, develop your own. The Dev's develop what they want, they just happen to share it with everyone else.
Perhaps not, If you like LeeDroid 3.3.3 & ARHD 5.2.6, stick with them.
Also I could see a few people being unhappy labelled as "Sheep", just because they want the latest & most current versions.
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Actually was referring to the rom devs as sheep. Was kinda hoping for some die hard devs to say no to sense 3 and stick with 2, but hey
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At first I thought the sense 3 ROMs were pretty laggy in rosie, but with the super smooth and liquid smooth patches, and all the work done by others, I feel that they're now as smooth as they were always meant to be =)
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The current sense 3/3.5 ROMs are indeed super smooth. I would get bored in a day every time I flashed a new Sense ROM, but what brought me back to Sense is the new RCMix3d Runny v3.2. Once you use Sense 3.5, its difficult to go back to even Sense 3, so I'd been waiting for this to stabilize a bit. And I must say, the RC team has made this ROM buttery smooth. Its perfect so far. Falling in love with Sense again.
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Actually was referring to the rom devs as sheep. Was kinda hoping for some die hard devs to say no to sense 3 and stick with 2, but hey
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Why dont you give Runny a try, you might understand why most devs are moving forward and trying to make Sense 3.5 work optimally on our phones.
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The current sense 3/3.5 ROMs are indeed super smooth. I would get bored in a day every time I flashed a new Sense ROM, but what brought me back to Sense is the new RCMix3d Runny v3.2. Once you use Sense 3.5, its difficult to go back to even Sense 3, so I'd been waiting for this to stabilize a bit. And I must say, the RC team has made this ROM buttery smooth. Its perfect so far. Falling in love with Sense again.
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Why dont you give Runny a try, you might understand why most devs are moving forward and trying to make Sense 3.5 work optimally on our phones.
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Just out walking the dog at the moment, but on my return home... Do you know what... I think I will give this runny rom a test drive
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gcarter said:
No offence intended by the title of this thread, but I've noticed that all of the latest rom releases are all pimpin out sense 3.
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing. Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
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The main reason alot of developers are going with the new sense is that they know all future updates will include it and the old coding for the older sense will no longer work when making and configuring roms.
I like sense 3 granted the lock screens ****,i flashed the ol pull down lock to my arhd rom
Sense 3 is good but my opinion. Sense 3.5 is the ****e you need to watch out for,hopefully htc will drop it and move to 4.0
For ice cream
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I like sense 3 granted the lock screens ****,i flashed the ol pull down lock to my arhd rom
Sense 3 is good but my opinion. Sense 3.5 is the ****e you need to watch out for,hopefully htc will drop it and move to 4.0
For ice cream
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Sense 3 is good but my opinion. Sense 3.5 is the ****e you need to watch out for
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Explain, please
gcarter said:
No offence intended by the title of this thread, but I've noticed that all of the latest rom releases are all pimpin out sense 3.
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing. Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
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I hope u've tried Ginger S / IceCream edition of it
Daedric,nothing really,its more the appearence of 3.5 i dont like,reminds me of the iphone. Thats my bugbear i think,i tried runnys rom,didnt gel,if someone themes it with honey sense maybe but...who knows
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ARHD 5.2.6 is my all-time favourite ROM. It's stable, smooth, fast and has amazing battery life not to mention it works with PureBlackEspresso skin (was never updated for Sense 3.0).
However, seeing all the new bells and whistles which are included in Sense 3.5 I tried Runny v1.5 when that was the latest release. Whilst I was impressed with how it looked and the cool extras like RCTweaks and Beats Audio (I've since decided SRS is better), it just didn't impress me with performance or battery life so I went back to ARHD 5.2.6.
Anyway, last night I decided to give Runny another try and flashed v3.3. All I can say is WOW! What a difference now... it's actually runs as nice as it looks. So fast and smooth, and appears to be very stable too. It's too early to comment on battery life but so far it seems acceptable.
My only gripe with Sense 3.5 is that you loose scrolling wallpaper in favour of the 3D Rosie. I do prefer scrolling wallpaper, but hey... you can't have everything and it's a small price to pay for all the other cool stuff you gain.
I still have ARHD 5.2.6 as my main Nandroid though... it will be a cold day in hell before I get rid of that!
From my last comment...i was talking ****e,now running runny 3.3 honey sense hd on board and nexus boot with customized uot kitchen bits. Uv scripted. Sweet
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what is the best sense rom out right now? skyraider? anyone have a preference? or the new desire hd rom?
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what is the best sense rom out right now? skyraider? anyone have a preference? or the new desire hd rom?
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I have to say that I am absolutely loving Virtuous right now. I have tried them all and it's my daily driver.
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I am really enjoying the Uncommon Sense. Best I have tried so far.
Virtuous is clean and smooth
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virtuous - extremely stable and customizable. Best so far. Did try a bunch of others and always came back to virtuous. In fact I stopped experimenting with others. I am going steady with her now waiting for it to ask me for a diamond ring to show real commitment.
I like virtuous. It's the closest to stock but with lots of mods. I personally love to rotary lockscreen from our friend ihtfp69. But I only tried skyraider during RC2. Cm is nice except no sense widgets.
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I can say virtuous is probably THE best as far as stability and customization. It's by far one of the most polished ROMs out for the incredible right now.
I've tried both skyraider vanilla and sense and they are very nice ROMs as well. Unfortunately, a couple bugs bothered me and i always went back to virtuous.
CM6 was my first ROM and it was unfortunately too buggy for me. I miss a lot of things about it but overall, I realized there are a lot of things about Sense that i could not live without.
Desire HD ROM was also pretty cool but only because we got to see what great things HTC is inventing. I am also looking forward to dev's incorporating some things from it... like booting up in seconds!
Currently I am running uncommon sense and it's honestly just as stable (so far) as virtuous. Considering this is the first version of it, I am extremely impressed.
Since i was using virtuous with the sexyrosiemod and rotary lockscreen (but i really wanted the vanilla lockscreen), uncommon sense is pretty much my set up but built in the ROM already. As far as getting rid of bloatware though, i have to say virtuous is the easiest ROM for it. I had to use titanium with uncommon sense which really isn't that big of a deal but it wasn't as user friendly as virtuous.
EDIT: Forgot something important. I later found out that you can uninstall apps straight from the app menu in uncommon sense. very handy!
also, the other quirks in uncommon sense has really made me attached to this ROM. I never thought i would cross over from virtuous but I did and I don't see myself going back (due to personal preference not because it's necessarily better). If i was going to recommend a ROM to a friend, i would say virtuous.
From what you say cheese I'm going to give uncommon sense a try. So far I like it. Been only 10 minutes though
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Uncommon Sense.
It just works for me all the way through. The bloatware can be a little annoying but it's easily taken care of.
I would have to say virtuous also. I was a big fan of skyraider and can't wait for gold. But uncommon sense was slow for me. I don't use rosie but I like the color settings menu and the status bars better than vanilla.
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kregstrong said:
what is the best sense rom out right now? skyraider? anyone have a preference? or the new desire hd rom?
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In my opinion if you're looking for the Sense experience Virtuous is the best one out there. It doesn't change anything drastically, and the UI changes are subtle and more of added polish than wholesale changes you'll get with some other roms. I really like the spirit of the project which is to remain as close to stock as possible but to give the user options that they don't have with the official build.
It's been rock solid for me, the only issue was the Gmail Update issue with 2.7 which was quickly resolved.
Redemption ROM-
Best if you want sense without the added bloatware
It's pretty fast too!
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I like virtuous
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Virtuous is clean and smooth
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I think more people should try redemption. its been nothing but smooth.
Virtuous is nice too. great battery life with the custom kernel.
Actually, They're all really good. I've been doing a lot of jumping around from rom to rom because they're all really good. That's what's great about being rooted. Try'em all!
I like the new Uncommon 1.0 ROM. It is very clean and smooth and I like the small changes that were made. I am also noticing that my battery is lasting alot longer with this ROM.
I am also using Uncommon. Came from CM which was way too buggy for me and unstable.
I'm running with Uncommon Sense right now but had been on Virtuous after trying SR, Frankenrom, and the nonSense ROMS (CM, Ruby).
It's pretty nice and probably a bit more streamlined than Virtuous but still lacks something I can't place. I'd prefer Virtuous to have the power option to Reboot but while that mod is available, it conflicts with the Rotary Lockscreen mod which I like too, as well as the Revolution theme (well the rotary lockscreen conflicts). It would be nice to have DSP built in as well but aside from that these are both terrific ROMS. Hmmm...they should get married! Get the best of both worlds!
If you use HTC sense, which I assume you do based on the title of the thread, then Virtuous is the cleanest and most stable stock sense experience you'll find.
I use SR vanilla mostly because I only like SOME of sense, like the gallery and camera app. I use launcher pro too, so having a full sense rom wouldn't be too beneficial for me personally. Gotta love choice
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Div033 said:
If you use HTC sense, which I assume you do based on the title of the thread, then Virtuous is the cleanest and most stable stock sense experience you'll find.
I use SR vanilla mostly because I only like SOME of sense, like the gallery and camera app. I use launcher pro too, so having a full sense rom wouldn't be too beneficial for me personally. Gotta love choice
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I use virtuous with rosie removed and launcher pro in its place with a hydra kernel and it's running like a dream. Can't really comment on the battery life since I am using an extended battery, but it seems to be okay.
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HD port
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Rate from 1-10 in terms of:
Looks:
Speed:
Battery Life:
Stabability:
Any rom developed by aamikam
Looks:10(sense is so pretty)
Speed:7(Sense is a bit slower than aosp)
Battery:10(Sense gives me the best battery life i have ever seen on my phone)
Stability:10(everything always works)
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Currently my favorite ROM is MIUI. It's so much different than any other ROM and there's a ton of customization.
Looks: easy 10
Speed: not the fastest ROM but quick. I'll give it an 8
Battery life: easy 10. I get the better battery life than any other ROM
Stability: 8 - depends on the build but all in all pretty stable.
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man its all really personal opinion but ill give it my best review seeing as how ive used all of the ones that are available for the shift "i think"
AOSP ROMS: CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) and Shift Deck
AOSP DEFINITION:Stock Pure Google Android. doesnt get much simpler than that.
Shift Deck: This is about as AOSP as it gets its pure stock android (think of a nexus S) Shift Deck like most AOSP roms gives great battery life. I find making it a little over a day not very hard with quite some usuage. The speed is very slick too.
My rating
Looks:7 (an opinated question)
Speed:10
Battery Life:9
Stability: 10
Features: 6
CM7: This is AOSP with a lot of different features inside of it that are hard to go through all of them. but basically if you like the look of AOSP but want more customization options and features CM7 is a great way to go
My Rating
Looks: 7
Speed 10
Battery Life:9
Stability: 8.5(only because its still in nightly builds and there are a few problems)
Features:8 (more than stock AOSP and some good ones at that)
Evervolv: Think of Shift Deck with a different stock launcher. Its codenamed Creo and has a couple different features. for that purpose to me it recieves the same score as Shift Deck
SENSE ROMS
Sense in general is what the shift comes stock with. An overlay on android made by HTC to bring further customization for the purpose of length i will not include Stock Sense 2.1
Sense 3.0 Kingdom Port: This is a full Sense 3.0 port for the evo shift its elegant and sexy and jam packed with customization. Now HTC did state Sense 3.0 would only work on NEWER devices and it does show in the port. on a stock kernel it does get really laggy with memory issues.
MY rating
Looks:9.5( i dont give looks a 10 because it sort of opiniated)
Speed:5 (it works but to me unusable)
Battery Life:7 (the port defeinently takes a toll on the battery
Features: 10
Stability: 4
MikShift-G Sense 2.1+3.0: This is based off Sense 2.1 with 3.0 features added into it. Personally this is one of my favorites. Its got a great mix of 3.0 features so you dont feel left behind and out of date and with aamikams optimizing it runs beautifully. I dont notice lag per say but there are a couple times things take just a tad bit longer to load. Added Sense 3.0 Features Include -Lockscreen,Weather,Messaging, Task Manager, and probably a couple others im forgetting
Looks:9.1 (lol)
Speed.9.5
Battery Life:9 (As good or sometimes better than AOSP)
Features:9
Stability: 9.9 (even the beta was fantastic only one KB light problem that is still in the official build)
SupremeSense 2.1+3.0. So you like the sound of Mikshift-G but you miss that 3D rosie and 3D widgets from Sense 3.0? Well here you go. SupremeSense is based off Mikshift-G but with a couple nice features Including 3D Sense 3.0 Launcher, and Darktremmors A2SD. This is a little bit more memory heavy so there is some lag but definently still usable
Looks:9.4
Speed:8.5
Battery Life:9 (same as Mikshift-G)
Features: 9.2
Stability:9
MIUI ROMS
We have a few miui ports and there basically the same just newer versions so im just going to review miui in general
MIUI (I think its said like "MY-U-I") is very umm "different" or in alot of ways its not different. if you have ever used or seen an iphone then you have a sense (no pun intended) of what the MIUI launcher is like. Its based of of AOSP but it doesnt look like it. It has an iOS type feel to it. It has no app drawer all your icons are on the homescreens and you scroll left and right through them. you have the ability to make folders like in iOS which seems to be an essential part in MIUI. You have a lockscreen sort of like Sense 1.0-2.1.
Its got a different way of handling text messages. and menu systems and the whole UI of the phone has its own unique feel that you have to try out to completley understand. MIUI currently does not support 4G so if you use it your SOL. but it is definently worth checking out
It does run across MMS issues sometimes too. Miui has its own personal theme manager that will theme anything from sounds to design asthetics to bootanimations, and lockscreens including options for sense 3.0 type lockscreens. its a very complete theming process. Think of it as HTC Hub on Steroids.
My Rating:
Look:8.9(once again opiniated question)
Speed:9 (generally very slick)
Battery Life:9 (AOSP like Battery Life)
Stability: 7.5 (this is miui's lowest point)
Features. 9 (its very unique in features)
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I believe i have covered every ROM in our development section please let me know if i forgot any
Thanks for the overview notsointeresting!
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Enraged21 said:
Thanks for the overview notsointeresting!
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No problem just trying to help
and since i flash anything that has the term "flashable" in its name i thought i might as well lol
yes thanks a bunch man. covered everything lol
Lol. Your overview made me wanna tried out mik mik rom. Never tried it before, but I never was a sense type of person.
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Enraged21 said:
Lol. Your overview made me wanna tried out mik mik rom. Never tried it before, but I never was a sense type of person.
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Its an outstanding ROM. but if you just dont like the design asthetics of sense then no you wont like it.
but all the problems people say they have with sense is eliminated in the rom
I am running Supreme Sense which is based of Mikshift-G (as i said in the review lol) and at 72% battery life i am going 8 hours and 8 min (reading it off my phone as i type) with wifi going the whole time, gps, lots of texts a few voice calls and LOTS of web browsing.
The lag people expierence with sense is compltley gone it runs great and smooth just as fast as AOSP. Some apps may take half a second more to load tho
and you gotta love the sense 3 lockscreen haha
Thanks notsointeresting, I just got this phone and have been wondering what way I wanted to go on it in terms of what rom to put on it. I am coming from a Samsung Transform so almost any rom is going to run faster and smoother then the best rom and kernal package could give me on the transform. Based on your review I am trying the MikShift-G Sense 1.4 so far so good really enjoy the sense feel and look. Thinking of trying Supreme Sense but would like to find a video of it before going through the trouble of downloading it and setting it up.
Not to hijack the thread but could you tell me even in a PM your review of kernals available?
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Thanks notsointeresting, I just got this phone and have been wondering what way I wanted to go on it in terms of what rom to put on it. I am coming from a Samsung Transform so almost any rom is going to run faster and smoother then the best rom and kernal package could give me on the transform. Based on your review I am trying the MikShift-G Sense 1.4 so far so good really enjoy the sense feel and look. Thinking of trying Supreme Sense but would like to find a video of it before going through the trouble of downloading it and setting it up.
Not to hijack the thread but could you tell me even in a PM your review of kernals available?
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Believe me I would love to haha. But unless your on an AOSP rom your SOL (sadly out of luck haha) because HTC has not provided the source code for the evo shift yet so developers can not make kernels. It's a serious GPL violation an people (including me) have been sending tweets and posting on twitters face book wall saying something like ( @HTC We still need you to release the source code for the EVO Shift 4G #GPL #Android) they will have to release it soon though and I'm thinking when that time comes I might make a dedicated thread for kernel and roms and put my reviews and information on them and let people leave reviews or what not. But that would depend on if people where interested.
Also check out my EpicBlue theme for Milshift-G it finally supports 1.4
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Its an outstanding ROM. but if you just dont like the design asthetics of sense then no you wont like it.
but all the problems people say they have with sense is eliminated in the rom
I am running Supreme Sense which is based of Mikshift-G (as i said in the review lol) and at 72% battery life i am going 8 hours and 8 min (reading it off my phone as i type) with wifi going the whole time, gps, lots of texts a few voice calls and LOTS of web browsing.
The lag people expierence with sense is compltley gone it runs great and smooth just as fast as AOSP. Some apps may take half a second more to load tho
and you gotta love the sense 3 lockscreen haha
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You did leave out all the customizable lockscreens with miui, I have the sense 3 lockscreen as well running the latest miui.us.
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You did leave out all the customizable lockscreens with miui, I have the sense 3 lockscreen as well running the latest miui.us.
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Not only lock screens but customizable notification bar, icons, boot animation and fonts. All easily customized from the theme manager.
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Not only lock screens but customizable notification bar, icons, boot animation and fonts. All easily customized from the theme manager.
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I did not know the later versions had a sense 3 lockscreen? Is it a remake of it or is it a port of the exact one. I just ask so I can put it on my post.
And yes your right I did leave out theme manager for miui it does have a very simple way to download and use complete themes to change everything from sounds to looks to bootanimations.
Edit: I added that information in the first post I made. Thanks very much Rooster85 and Crump84
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I did not know the later versions had a sense 3 lockscreen? Is it a remake of it or is it a port of the exact one. I just ask so I can put it on my post.
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The Sense 3 lockscreen screen has to be added through the theme manager. There are threads dedicated to just miui lock screens, Sense 3 is just one of the many options.
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The Sense 3 lockscreen screen has to be added through the theme manager. There are threads dedicated to just miui lock screens, Sense 3 is just one of the many options.
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Many thanks man.
The post has been updated with more accurate information
I have not flashed miui since 1.7.5 I think? And then went to mikshift-G and haven't tried anything since then but looks like I need to take a look at miui again
I would highly suggest it, it was 7.something where a lot of cool changes were made. I believe the sense lockscreen its a exact port or at least it looks EXACTLY the same as the mikshift [email protected]
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I would highly suggest it, it was 7.something where a lot of cool changes were made. I believe the sense lockscreen its a exact port or at least it looks EXACTLY the same as the mikshift [email protected]
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MIUI is great and all I really like it. But until MIUI starts supporting 4G I can't use it for more than a couple hours to figure out all the features and what ill miss when I flash back.
I live in texas so its the one of the most heavily covered 4G areas (if not THE most heavily covered area) in the U.S so I need it
Edit: BTW OP I hope were not hijacking your thread here. We are talking about ROM's and our opinions so it shouldn't but were not exactly reviewing them so please let us know lol
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MIUI is great and all I really like it. But until MIUI starts supporting 4G I can't use it for more than a couple hours to figure out all the features and what ill miss when I flash back.
I live in texas so its the one of the most heavily covered 4G areas (if not THE most heavily covered area) in the U.S so I need it
Edit: BTW OP I hope were not hijacking your thread here. We are talking about ROM's and our opinions so it shouldn't but were not exactly reviewing them so please let us know lol
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Yeah, i hear ya on that... Without 4G I wouldn't have a cell phone... Where I live my 4G is sometimes worse than 3G speeds... My 3G is usually at 1x speeds and my talk varies... For all that I've tried Evervolv and it messed up my phone. Hated it. I currently use the Cyanogen Nightlies. They for me offer the best of everything. Speed, customization, battery life... With the theme chooser they can look basically how ever you want. With beautiful widgets you can get some sense like widgets and others. Many launcher options. I use ADW and its a perfect blend of stability and customization. I've heard very good things about Shift deck. In my opinion sense is super slow compared to AOSP. People have said that the Mikshift G runs like AOSP. But to me, i can see the difference. So I'm gonna vote for plain and simple cyanogen
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Hey Guys & Girls,
I have a HTC Desire Z, I am currently running the MIUI Osimod ROM and it's starting to lag plus there are a few little things what bug me and annoy me however it is quite a good ROM
I'm looking for a "better" ROM, I don't know how to pick between each ROM, if there was 2 or 3 ROM's I would of simply tried each one but there are LOADS of ROM's.
I wish there was a rule and a specific topic layout enabling novices to see the major differences between ROM's because its so hard, a simple tickbox system would be good enough to help compare.
If you have any suggestions for a ROM for me to use, tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others...
If you could do this, it would be much appreciated
Thanks
- Hyflex
Hyflex said:
Hey Guys & Girls,
I have a HTC Desire Z, I am currently running the MIUI Osimod ROM and it's starting to lag plus there are a few little things what bug me and annoy me however it is quite a good ROM
I'm looking for a "better" ROM, I don't know how to pick between each ROM, if there was 2 or 3 ROM's I would of simply tried each one but there are LOADS of ROM's.
I wish there was a rule and a specific topic layout enabling novices to see the major differences between ROM's because its so hard, a simple tickbox system would be good enough to help compare.
If you have any suggestions for a ROM for me to use, tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others...
If you could do this, it would be much appreciated
Thanks
- Hyflex
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OMGOMGOMGOMG NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!!! As stated in other threads, the best rom comes down to user preference. Like my fav is virtuous unity because i like sense 3.0 UI
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evilcuber said:
OMGOMGOMGOMG NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!!! As stated in other threads, the best rom comes down to user preference. Like my fav is virtuous unity because i like sense 3.0 UI
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If you noticed... I said "best" and said: "tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others"
Meaning, I understand and know its personal opinions / user preference and am saying "best" not as in which ones the fastest, most features...etc but want to know what ROM's people are using and what they like about them.
Simple
Hyflex said:
If you noticed... I said "best" and said: "tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others"
Meaning, I understand and know its personal opinions / user preference and am saying "best" not as in which ones the fastest, most features...etc but want to know what ROM's people are using and what they like about them.
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Well you should change the thread name from the best rom to your fav rom. Also you could check out reviews on each rom to learn more, you could also read the threads for each rom to get ppls opinions
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If you try and flash all of them and experiment them out, you'll find out which one you like the best.
I prefer the sense based widgets, so I stick more with the sense-rom sides.
I have always been a CM user, but with the DZ I've felt that I don't really need CM or CM based roms because it's speedy enough on sense. Can't say for sure with virtuous unity, feels like it uses a bit more resources and battery. But that's just my opinion.
how come there is no poll somewhere that shows how many ppl are at what rom...
anyways its definitely a personal preference... i went from Sense 2.0 to CM to OSI_MIUI and now back at Sense 3... virtuous unity is stable and fast enough (with overclocking) havn't had any problems with it...
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how come there is no poll somewhere that shows how many ppl are at what rom...
anyways its definitely a personal preference... i went from Sense 2.0 to CM to OSI_MIUI and now back at Sense 3... virtuous unity is stable and fast enough (with overclocking) havn't had any problems with it...
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I just tried unity and its slow once i have my apps installed it was slow and my im apps were disconnecting (restarting)
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I just tried unity and its slow once i have my apps installed it was slow and my im apps were disconnecting (restarting)
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Was this an earlier version of unity?
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Was this an earlier version of unity?
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I used 1.31, the most current non beta and I feel the lag at times. Virtuous sense feels a lot better.
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I used 1.31, the most current non beta and I feel the lag at times. Virtuous sense feels a lot better.
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It was latest, I never download old stuff and Im using the G-Lite version atm its pretty bare, I want to have the reboot options and the toggles tab (when u open notifications) also I want to stop the stupid "USB Connected" message popping up its driving me insane lol
Love those thread, because its hard too choose.
Tried cm7, but no sense ui.
Tried virtuous sense 2.0, but its 2.0
Love the unity 1.31.
recently upgrade to unity 2.37, but tons of bugs.
About virtuous doubleshot?
oVeRdOsE. said:
Love those thread, because its hard too choose.
Tried cm7, but no sense ui.
Tried virtuous sense 2.0, but its 2.0
Love the unity 1.31.
recently upgrade to unity 2.37, but tons of bugs.
About virtuous doubleshot?
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'tons of bugs'? Such as?
I moved away from Unity when it moved to Sense 3.0 because it was so unstable on my DZ - I guess because of the memory requirements.
I used Virtuous Sense 2 for a good few weeks, but I really wanted Sense 3.
Tried a few others (doubleshot, Honeysense etc.) but now Unity 2.37 is out I have had barely any problems - fully recommended.
I've used them all and Bulletproof's MIUI Rom is the best in my opinion. Then again it all comes down to preference.
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I actually enjoy these types of threads because it keeps us users on our toes. At the same time, if the Dev's browse these threads, perhaps they'll be able to compare their featureset with another ROM's featureset. That being said, here is my opinion if you haven't already chosen a ROM yet.
Sense: I LOVE SenseUI. The native Facebook integration, intelligent dialer and the host of intuitive widgets is great to have. It is THE go-to ROM if you want a plug-and-play ROM. Setup time is minimal and though Sense does take up more resources than say CM, AOSP-based or MIUI, it is the tradeoff you make to have convenience. My SenseUI recommendation would be Virtuous Sense 2.0 hands down. Doubleshot and Expresso ports are nice but they're not true SenseUI. SenseUI 3.0 (i.e. Virtuous Unity, etc...) is nice but you need to sacrifice more than system resources to run that properly (i.e. if you have the G2, you need to convert to the DesireZ HBOOT; might have to OC more to get SenseUI 3.0 to run smoother, etc...).
AOSP: I ran AOSP based ROM's in the past and the best advantage is SPEED. A typical AOSP ROM is about 1/3 the size of the equivalent SenseUI ROM so you'll have tons of space to hold your apps and other stuff. AOSP is nice if you have a specific app to use for your different types of integration. My recommendation for AOSP based ROMs would be either CM7 (Haven't used before) or Virtuous G-Lite (Used and loved). The only reason I left AOSP (for now) is because I want the Facebook and other types of integration and convenience that SenseUI offers in one package rather than find equivalent apps to do the same thing.
MIUI: Think of this as AOSP with an iPhone-esque skin; easily customizable from a UI standpoint. This makes sense because MIUI stands for "My UI" according to my research. Alot of the features in the various MIUI builds are similar to that of AOSP ROMs just with added UI customizeability. Each flavor does add or subtract some features, but the baseline experience should be similar throughout. My recommendation for MIUI would be the Official MIUI build for the DesireZ/G2 from MIUI.us.
It seems that you understand (surprising that many don't) that whether you like or dislike a ROM is completely personal. Myself, for example, love to have SenseUI. Others will swear profanity at SenseUI and kick my arse for loving it. I hope you can find the ROM that suits you!
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I agree with everything you stated, ad I have tried all ROMs uve stated. I also love sense ui and features hence stuck to virtuous sense 2.0. If it wasnt for that i would straight head to miui as it then be customized to my demand.
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hmm stock pre-rooted ota works great for me and fast!
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'tons of bugs'? Such as?
I moved away from Unity when it moved to Sense 3.0 because it was so unstable on my DZ - I guess because of the memory requirements.
I used Virtuous Sense 2 for a good few weeks, but I really wanted Sense 3.
Tried a few others (doubleshot, Honeysense etc.) but now Unity 2.37 is out I have had barely any problems - fully recommended.
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I'll post some pictures in the dev section about my bugs. I hope its something easy to fix because so far is the fastest rom I've tried.
Been trying to find a ROM that lasts the whole day, and not even g-lite lasted me more than 12 hours. Not sure why since all I do is text, run on edge all the time, below 50% brightness, no background data.
I tried these ones from virtuous 'cause I like Sense much. But... they had same "feature", after few days and software updates I started to get force closes from acore and gapps and couldn't use UI/phone at all. Even rebooting to recovery was pain in the ass. I tried factoryreset and even re-install on top of old one without wipe, but didn't help. CM7 going strong and steady now.
I hate to be repetitious, but as long as these "best ROM" threads keep popping up, I'll keep saying it. OP mentions "favorite ROM" in the body of his post, but "best ROM" in the title. Really, "favorite" is a better terms, as there is no "best" ROM. Everyone has different needs, tastes, and preferences. Calling one "best" or "better" than others is an insult to the generous devs who work so hard making these ROMs for us.
Hey guys if you dont know me I was a rom dev for the xperia but moved on to the DZ. HAven't yet made a rom for the DZ, yet.
But I have been flashing non-stop since i got this phone. Its just I can't decide what I should stick to, and what will match my needs.
So im a highschool student, calendars reminders are big for me and staying organized. I play basketball and watch it too so video and stuff is needed.
But Im also a dj/producer and i need the best sound. I also like to play games ocassionaly as well.
I really love Sense 3.0 but I cant handle the laggyness even with swap enabled, is there anything else that can be done? I was on virtuous 2.00 (sense 2.1) for 2 weeks it was stable and all, but the battery was pretty drainable fast. BlissBeatMod is promising if some of it can get less laggy. And we'll have to see what Virtuous Tretanique (Affinity) will go.
Aosp is nice and fast but I dont really get the nice looks and features that miui have to offer.
Miui is really nice im running BulletProof right now. But i still dont feel like its the "one". and the quality of music isnt as great on sense even with equalizer options on.
PLEASE TELL ME ANY SUGGESTIONS, ALL WILL BE APPRECIATED
i personally have ILWT CM7... fast yet battery efficient... plus, there's alot of themes you can add to it so it can be visually good too
btw, i saw your work man! you are LEGEND!! i encourage you to make a ROM for us!
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i personally have ILWT CM7... fast yet battery efficient... plus, there's alot of themes you can add to it so it can be visually good too
btw, i saw your work man! you are LEGEND!! i encourage you to make a ROM for us!
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Thanks a lot, once I decide what kind I will produce I will start.
Ok Im running ILWT. It is amazing. I put a theme on. Very fast. But still some reason it just seems "boring". And the sms app on aosp/cm7 isnt as sexy.
yea i know exactly where youre coming from, I always want a newer prettier ROM... I wish someone would release one that just didnt look like it was android almost, and not like iphone, or anything, something with an original GUI.. yes i realize that's a lot to ask btw and not something I would be able to do myself but I think it'd be cool and get a lot of support! In the mean time the one I've found to be the freshest for me is MIUI because of how the themes affect like everything and really the launcher is what catches my eye, im kinda excited for the ROU launcher
i used to use cm7 and miui before. cm7 is lightweight rom, smooth and has excellent battery life. but it is lack of killer feature such as in its sms functionality, the smart dialer and etc. of course you can always download apps from market for that functions but it takes forever to load those apps on startup.
so i moved to miui, which i am currently running with bulletproof miui rom. it is rich with functionality, ridiculously-convenient-built in-features and interfaces, but consume more battery compared to cm7 unless you made certain tweak on its OC/UC. but its interface lacks of originality because it is obviously a mimic of iOS. but so far i m happy using miui.
i want to try sense based rom, but from what i learned, sense based is laggy. i miss sense interface though. look clean.
OK, if you think cm7 is boring (and I agree) I suggest you give MexDroid a spin. It was my DD for quite some time. The only reason it's not anymore is because I found Bulletproof MIUI. but I'm sure you've already tried MIUI. if not. Tun4f1sh's Bulletproof is the ONLY one I recommend.
More options would be most welcome I'm sure. I'm trying to figure out how to port roms from hd forums at the moment. The collective's absolution looks pretty sweet.
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If you use bootmanager (market app) you can install sense / miui and cyanogen at the same time... Only thing you have to do is seeting up the phonerom as sense (miui and cyanogen based mods run very smooth booting from sdcard)
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If you use bootmanager (market app) you can install sense / miui and cyanogen at the same time... Only thing you have to do is seeting up the phonerom as sense (miui and cyanogen based mods run very smooth booting from sdcard)
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Neat, I like that idea. Kinda like having a nand backup without the pain of restoring everytime you want to switch.
I also champion Bulletproof, tun4 and tsubus seem to make sure this Rom stays a top contender. There is also talk of miXdroid Mod which is a miui meXdroid, looking forward to seeing how that one turns out
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Ya know what... forget what I said above, if this MixDroid thing happens I'll be happier than a /b/ troll.
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Neat, I like that idea. Kinda like having a nand backup without the pain of restoring everytime you want to switch.
I also champion Bulletproof, tun4 and tsubus seem to make sure this Rom stays a top contender. There is also talk of miXdroid Mod which is a miui meXdroid, looking forward to seeing how that one turns out
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MIUI is great, iv been runing Bulletproof, it's definitely unique miui whit its virtuos oc controller witch cough my eye. But now i got ICS fever on me, not for the isc gui but some of the features. I stumbled on Galnet MIUI whit ics framework. runing fine, tried it for couple days, and the batterylife seems fine, maybe. Ill stick to this since it seems to work, and hope for updates whit possibly some new ics features.(its still same MIUI ui and functionality)
after we get somewhat working ICS, i will try that a little, and propably get back to MIUI.
I'm on Bulletproof MIUI at the moment but since the iPhone-esque UI makes my eyes hurt I installed LPP and some icon pack (can't remember the name). That way I still have the looks of Android but can combine with the impressive speed and flow of the Bulletproof MIUI ROM.
CM 7.1 for me lacks a little bit of polish visually (can't wait for CM9!) compared to Sense based ROMs and IMO MIUI offers that. I like Sense but any Sense based ROM I've tried has started to get laggy on me after a while.
Bulletproof MIUI for the win...I also like good old Cyanogen too, but for a nice mix of speed AND looks MIUI is tops for me
Love the look of Sense, but too slow and laggy
Check my thread, i got a bunch of videos of roms and see which one you like the best
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19002986#post19002986
in this few days, i have been testing 3 sense 3.5 rom, beatmode, affinity and rcmix.
for someone who has a very sensitive sense like me, i cant stand to wait for the phone to response due to insufficient memory in sense 3.5.
its time to go back to miui bulletproof.
I have tried many of them. CM and MIUI is cool, I just miss too many features from sense. Sense 3.0 is either laggy or will get laggy after a while. So, I always go back to my Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 NAND backup.
But: question here: why is this draining the battery soooo badly? Apart from this, this could be THE perfect ROM.
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I have tried muiu, mexdroid, htc clay, g-lite, sense 2.0, unity sense and the affinity sense. I keep finding myself going back to the most stable, configurable and updated ROM ILWT CM7 (268).
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Sense is smooth and polished, but every custom Sense ROM that I have ever flashed is a battery hog, even the Sense 2.1 + 3.0 hybrids.
So my current favorite is G-lite 1.05 - it's like stock + overclocking + better than stock battery life (due to deep sleep)
I like sense and am currently running Virtuous Afinity but I can see me switching to an ASOP build of ICS when it's stable enough
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I have tried muiu, mexdroid, htc clay, g-lite, sense 2.0, unity sense and the affinity sense. I keep finding myself going back to the most stable, configurable and updated ROM ILWT CM7 (268).
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Curious to know what you like most about ILWT, especially compared with mexdroid and miui?
Hi all,
Currentely I'm using Leedroid ROM, it's my first custom rom. Becouse of lack of any recent updates I decided to swith to some other rom. I really love Lee's philosophy and tweaks so I'm looking for sense 3.5 rom developed in similar to Lee's way. Two most important things to me is stablility and smoothness.
Which rom would you recommend me?
If you like Sense 3.5 based ROM, I would recommend you Virtuous Affinity (http://www.virtuousrom.com/). This ROM is great, very stable, and battery life just amazing compared to other Sense 3.5 based ROM I tried before this (ER3BUS XL 3.5).
But if you want stock Sense 3.0 feel without any crazy mod in terms of stock graphic and user interface like Lee's ROM, have a great stability, speed, and performance I suggest you to try Android Revolution HD (ARHD).
One thing I didn't like from other custom ROM for DHD beside those two are the other dev is trying so hard to modify the Sense interface, in my opinion it's kind of bad move since it's ruin the whole Sense experience, because not everybody had the same kind of taste as the dev. So, without any hesitation, I suggest you to go for Virtous Affinity or Android Revolution HD. They are the best.
coredroid is also very good, heavily tweaked for performance...plus it has got sense 3.5
And what can you say about Virtuous Affinity in comparison with Runnydroid?
coredroid is also very good, heavily tweaked for performance...plus it has got sense 3.5
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Coredroid looks interesting but I prefer rather more or less stock look.
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And what can you say about Virtuous Affinity in comparison with Runnydroid?
Coredroid looks interesting but I prefer rather more or less stock look.
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I know that virtuous does some good job when it comes to rom, from the experience of ICS rom, virtuous is the way to go kind of thing and i'll be flashing it too to check it out
Im using the RunnyDroid v4
Its fast, have a long battery life and sens 3.5 with the wonderful quick lunch widget
this is the best ROM i have ever tried
here is a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351003
im thinking about tryin a new rom while waiting for a new arhd rom to grace us. for me arhd is going to take some beating as its always near perfect for me. what should i try people???? thinking about enery roms as they where the best in the good old hd2 days?
Trying Virtuous Affinity, rock solid till now, maybe a bit slower than Leedroid 3.3.3, but it's sense 3.5.
I think that also I would try runnydroid.
best DHD rom
For me RCMix3D v4 i the most stable with sense and CM7.1 no sense.
The best Sense 3.5 ROM I have tried is Mikrunny, which is basically stock looking but has a lot of tweaks available. Performance is very good and battery is pretty good too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406912
Just try out a few for yourself. Roms ate like cars. Some people will swear by Chevy's and other will say they are crap. Try for yourself to see the best one for you!
There are a bunch of good ones here. The devs are all awesome!
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod
Have tried all sense 3 / 3.5 Roma, never tried coredroid or cygenomod. Best as to be either capys rcmix roms, or memnocs smartdroid which is heavily tweaked/smoothest Rom ever tried.
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Hey. I started with leedroid too. Since then have used rcmix 3d v4 and coredroid v9.2. All good roms. I prefer coredroid out of the 3. I am using LC s ics at present. Its still needs a little work but its stable, quick and the battery life is the best of all the rooms I've used.
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I know many people love HTC phones for sense, but if you are willing to go out on a bit of a limb, I would HIGHLY suggest Virtuous Quattro, which is still in active development. Nearly everything is working (camera needs a bit of work) and it is wicked fast. Flashed it about a week ago and I will never again meander to Android < 4.0
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I know many people love HTC phones for sense, but if you are willing to go out on a bit of a limb, I would HIGHLY suggest Virtuous Quattro, which is still in active development. Nearly everything is working (camera needs a bit of work) and it is wicked fast. Flashed it about a week ago and I will never again meander to Android < 4.0
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Don't agree. It's too unstable and it's rightly labelled RC.
There's just too many things aren't working properly.
Just went back to ARHD - the most stable rom I've ever used.
I'm about to try Virtuous_affinity.
The only super stable sense 3.5 rom running as stock as possible as HTC have released it is E3RBUS XL, very good battery life too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357127
I like the Android revolution, and am trying to install the rom on DHD
[ROM] ER3BUS XL3.5 [GB 2.3.5][Sense 3.5][Runnymede 1.22.461.2][20.01.2012]
OK, so I am not the most experianced modder yet, tried Cyanogen last year and did not try anything since because of it. Then LeeDroid 3.0.3 on a recommendation yesterday, which died when using BT.
Stumbled across [ROM] ER3BUS XL3.5 [GB 2.3.5][Sense 3.5][Runnymede 1.22.461.2][20.01.2012] and awed...
fast and so far everything works as prescribed and expected
I am not sure if I want to look any further.
Only thing I'd like to mention, since the cook JSLEnterprises forgot: the ROM will change the FS to ext4. As far as I can tell, this is NO issue what's however, except it will completely wipe and reformat the internal memory (SD stays untouched) so make sure you have a GOOD backup before you start.
Thanks from me JSLEnterprises, some awesome work!
Tom
ER3BUS XL3.5 is currently the greatest gift we have for DHD, the DHD is never the same again with this ROM running on it, you can boost its FPS it to high heavens with ultra smooth rosie and supercharger
What is the difference between virtuous sense 3.5 rom and Erebus XL?
Yours truly.