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Galaxy Tab not getting ICS from Samsung

Samsung Italy has announced which devices they are planning on upgrading to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
That list is:
Galaxy S II
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1
Galaxy Tab 8.9
Galaxy Tab 7.7
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus
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Source:
http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/10/28/report-samsung-italy-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-update/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Our tablet came out in November of last year. It's less than a year old, and Samsung is dropping us already despite being a member of Google's so-called Update Alliance.
Guess Samsung hasn't changed at all from the old days.
If this pisses you off like it pisses me off, maybe we can shame them if we complain enough on their Facebook and Twitter pages, I already did:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA#!/SamsungUSA?sk=wall
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
http://twitter.com/#!/Samsungtweets
In the end, if Samsung drops us like yesterday's garbage, at least we still have our great devs here, like we always have.

I feel very lucky to have the developers!

Updated the post with the Samsung Facebook and Twitter feeds that I complained on.

With Samsung's "galaxy this and galaxy that" devices with different hardware specs you cannot expect the samsung team to come up with updates to each and everyone of them. That is a big nightmare.
As for me I will never again make a mistake in buying a samsung device. Support for an expensive device from samsung really sucks!
And to discover later that the device is not really up to quality and seems "untested" thoroughly adds to the disappointment. Example is the warming of the GT after some time of using. I have to mention that after using a rival tablet(I won't mention the brand) no similar warming happened .

manekineko said:
Samsung Italy has announced which devices they are planning on upgrading to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
That list is:
Source:
http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/10/28/report-samsung-italy-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-update/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Our tablet came out in November of last year. It's less than a year old, and Samsung is dropping us already despite being a member of Google's so-called Update Alliance.
Guess Samsung hasn't changed at all from the old days.
If this pisses you off like it pisses me off, maybe we can shame them if we complain enough on their Facebook and Twitter pages, I already did:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA#!/SamsungUSA?sk=wall&filter=12
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
http://twitter.com/#!/Samsungtweets
In the end, if Samsung drops us like yesterday's garbage, at least we still have our great devs here, like we always have.
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall

omr911 said:
Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Expect your complaint to be deleted asap!

it is expected that galaxy tab 7 wont have it. don't worry a port is coming soon.

omr911 said:
Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Thanks, added it to the original post.

I would be just happy with sammy providing a official rom for the latest gb. I am asking even ics.
So I recently started thinking a lot about the fragmentation and it is whole mess. Everyone not just google is to blame. I will hardly consider getting android again until this gets resolved some way.
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Can't we just get the damn drivers and source code... I trust the Dev community way more than any mfg
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If we can get the driver source code, we should be able to build ics for tab, just like almost any modem computer can run linux...
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droid512 said:
Can't we just get the damn drivers and source code... I trust the Dev community way more than any mfg
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After the official Gingerbread update for the GT-P1000 I am kind-of glad that Samsung are not touching the ol' 7".
I too prefer to put my faith in the development community. Look at Technomancer's CM7 port. That ROM really kicks some ass.
Opensource FTW!!!

We know that the Galaxy Tab is a powerful device as much as other devices that has been upgrade coming soon. This movement isn't good for Samsung because everybody will not trust in them. I think they have the best hardware in the market, but actually there are other companies that have work too hard, as Sony Ericsson.

shame on samsung

Just tested alpha2 of the first ics port - no network for data yet, but smooth feeling on p1000 - glad I bought that one ;-)
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frake said:
Just tested alpha2 of the first ics port - no network for data yet, but smooth feeling on p1000 - glad I bought that one ;-)
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Nice! I will try it soon.
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Used the Galaxy Tab P1000 before... changed to EVO3D (Asian edition cannot be hacked)... regret it to the max... who the hell wants to unlock the bootloaders from htcdev.com and void their warranty.. .definitely not me...
HTC, nice build quality, but really for a 1.2GHz dual core, it still kind of laggy... probably my hacked out Tab P1000 works much smoother... plus, with all the hacking and flashing and bricking my device TWICE, still manage to get warranty repairs by Samsung...
had the EVO3D for only 2 months.. just got rid of it and bought the shiny new Galaxy Tab Plus... this dual core tab really kicks some ass... and manage to root it easily...
multi tasking on the fly.. do you see the bar at the bottom, click on it and easy access to mini apps over your current running apps.... Nice...
I am never a brand fanboy, been using HTC since like forever, but the increasing "LOCKED" bootloaders philosophy by HTC is getting on my nerves... they forget, many gadget freaks are buying Android phones for their "customization and being open source"...
at time being, will stick to Samsung, and will put my faith on XDA developers to bring this device to the next level... long live XDA Developers...

Who needs samsung when you have a bunch of cool devs on XDA

Samsung did not release even 2.3 for Russia..This is funny to wait ICS)

DenimTornado said:
Samsung did not release even 2.3 for Russia..This is funny to wait ICS)
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Same here. Never had a Gingerbread update here in Australia (but that's my carrier's fault, I think) so jumped straight to Overcome and haven't looked back, apart from the odd dabble in CM7 and a quick run with Honeycomb.
I'm more than happy to wait for the devs to release an ICS build which will probably end up better than anything Samsung could've done anyway.

Galaxy S2 confirmed get Android 4.0

Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)

I hope, we won't have to wait that long...

Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...

i don't like to wait.

i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.

me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.

pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.

I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII

You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.

Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
blueseeker said:
For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.

drelite08 said:
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.

Lost Monk said:
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?

I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).

Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...

What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?

I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".

[RUMOR] Android 5.0 this summer

Let's wait and watch.
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/16/android-5-0-jelly-bean-could-launch-as-early-as-this-summer-rumor/

I really wouldn't really be too surprised if we did see Android Jelly Bean in the Summer, but more towards the end, say July or August time. There are already rumours of an Android 4.1 floating around as well.
Not sure about the whole booting into Chrome OS thing, that'd be like Google shooting down a whole market it's looking to tackle Ultrabooks with. Why buy an Android tablet AND have a Chrome book when you can have both. Though I doubt people would buy both anyway ha ha. Although, an Asus Transformer that docked to Chrome OS would be cool.
Perhaps we'll see this released alongside the fabled "Nexus Tablet" said to be coming, which I would absolutely love to see.
Cheers for sharing

Is Google going to forget me. My 9020a would love an official ICS. It would be neat to see some 5.0 out there though.
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Wow... amazing!! but...I think rumor is just rumor
And all of sudden, I want Jelly Bean' UI is violet!!

Goggle shouldn't release it until 2013 in my opinion.

I think that to roll out a big update in less than a year is bad for android. The time that Google started to have one OS on all devices (mobiles and tablets) with ICS will probably lose this if the android 5.0 Jelly Beam role out so fast.
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giannis_mathiou said:
I think that to roll out a big update in less than a year is bad for android. The time that Google started to have one OS on all devices (mobiles and tablets) with ICS will probably lose this if the android 5.0 Jelly Beam role out so fast.
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This summer sounds about right. Based on them taking about 6 months after releasing ICS to get it to the Nexus devices and probably another 6 months before other manufacturers start using it. That means if they announce JB this summer, towards the end of 2013 is when you will really see devices for it.

Fake. Hopefully

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Fake. Hopefully
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It makes sense that they will announce it this summer. When it actually ships, who knows. But they usually announce it months before release to give developers time to work with the api.

What if it's half true, 4.1 that's sound more like it
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Biggest Android Problem ? For How long support will last for Samsung S3 ?

Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.

It will get the update.
SGS got its update, SGS2 got its update, SGS3 will get its update.

Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.

mertzi said:
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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h3llboy911 said:
DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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Get galaxy nexus.
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TheBlazingIndian said:
Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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kirdroid said:
This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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Rumor has it Samsung, HTC, etc have early access to Jellybean in order to make their Nexii. Previously everyone besides Samsung only had access when it was released.
Whether or not this affects the update schedule remains to be seen. If it doesn't, you can either expect early-mid 2013 for the update, or flash it yourself (no company, not even some ideal hypothetical, can compete with homebrew speed).

TheBlazingIndian said:
Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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What are you basing any of this on? I highly doubt we will see Android 5 this soon (unless it is purely a tablet OS, which I doubt).
Based on your logic, there is no point in buying an Android phone.
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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This.

Android 5 or 4.1 will more then likely come in December just like ics and gingerbread before that. If this is true, this gives you 5 to 6 more months with ics and I doubt the s3 will be as old as you are thinking; sure better devices can come to the market in the next 6 months but let's be real, the s3 will be able to do everything for the next year to a year and a half just fine. I've been with the HTC inspire and this thing is 2 years old yet I rarely have any lag considering I use this for everything including gaming.
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Have perfect solution for u, don't by the SGS 3 and keep waiting for the perfect one, I have a Gnex and very much doubt that it will have Jelly Bean in a month or two or three , maybe more like 5 months and in the smartphone age that is like a year. Or go get a phone named after a fruit. See no one will get Jelly Bean before it makes it's debut on the next Gnex and thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Thank the fruity company for making the latest version the "best " one, at least with Samsung you get more from the next version then just S voice as they did with the 4S and a bit more power.

If you rooted, you won't bother whether Samsung update on time or not because you have everything the best XDA can offer you. If you are not rooted, obviously you are not software geek, why bother whether your GS3 running ICS, Jellybean, Gingerbread or any other version? Everything is a big problem to human if he or she want to think that way.
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h3llboy911 said:
DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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yeah sorry you're right, I was certain I read the other day that they cancelled the plan but now I see it will get it july or august, still very late. And considering that, why wont sgs1 get it officially?
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.

ye, even i was thinking about that problem but then i just thought that if android 5 comes out then i will use the customised rom

Custom rom/buy new phone.
Ive had enough of waiting for retarded companies to update things.
Motorola milestone - 6 months late, not fully functional (GB)
LG optimus 3d - not available till september 2012 (at the earliest), sold with the promise of prompt ics update, instead waiting more than a whole year.
Never waiting for an update again. Just gonna buy the new phones.
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mertzi said:
having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
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They messed up on the Dec update and probably had to redo. Unfortunately, company bureaucracy works much more slowly than we do, and a new update cycle can take 3-5 months. This is true for any company that offers warranties - they have to break as little as they can.
Had they not messed it up, however, NS could have had its upgrade hella quickly.
Don't want to deal with company bureaucracy? Flash homebrew (NS certainly had them much, much more quickly). Otherwise there's still no better option.

s3 will get official JB update and may be cm11 or cm12 for the other version of androids

[Q] Chances we will get Jelly Bean?

Chances we will get Jelly Bean on the Eee Pad Transformer?

very high

I'm hoping there's a good chance for JB. As a TF101 owner, they basically have a good record updating our OS's, so I'm guessing we might get it in 3-6 months. (yes i said 6).

what25 said:
I'm hoping there's a good chance for JB. As a TF101 owner, they basically have a good record updating our OS's, so I'm guessing we might get it in 3-6 months. (yes i said 6).
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Well we also have aosp roms like CM and AOPK and the release cycle on that (alpha's anyways) is only about 2-3 months

I read somewhere that ASUS only guaranteed an update for 18 months from first say of TF101.

coolface said:
I read somewhere that ASUS only guaranteed an update for 18 months from first say of TF101.
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launched end of may / beginning of april last year so we still have some time

Yeah till at least Christmas I hope But if Cm9 (Or cm10???) gets it so will we.

Base on the TF101 spec.. it more than capable of handling JellyBean. And Asus know this too.. unless they play this marketing over bussiness game on us and indirectly forcing Asus loyalties to buy their new range of upcoming devices with JellyBean ready. Will wait and see what in Asus future pipeline in store for us by 3rd quarter in the calander year.

TF101 is still a current model, it's still for sale by Asus, and therefore will be part of their 18month support agreement (which only starts when the product is discontinued).
With this, and the fact that Asus have been working with Google on the Nexus7 and will have had access to the Jellybean source for quite a few months, and the fact that ICS still isn't 100% stable on the TF101, i think it's pretty much a given that it will happen.
Not that I care, as mines a BO50 and totally unlocked to flash what I want, so can go CM10 if I want, but it would be nice if Asus supported it.

JB isn't going to be released from Google until thanksgiving (from what I've read) so if we get it at all it wont be until after the first of the year. remember Asus now has the slider, the Prime and now the tf301. i am sure they will have others by then as well. those devices will get updated first just because they are newer and it will be at least 2 month per device for each update to make sure they have a stable release. so don't hold your breath, IMHO.
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The only reason I hope/think we will get it because asus is a great company. I just wish they made a phone other than padfone (regular smartphone) and I would buy that soooo fast.
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ICS has VERY poor install rate. Even since the source code release most new devices released have still used Gingerbread. Honeycomb and ICS were both rushed. I think most devices will end up skipping ICS and move straight to Jellybean.
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6 months? Hell, I hope to have a tablet running Win8 by then.

dragon_76 said:
ICS has VERY poor install rate.
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That's what the Android hating Apple sites would have you think. Wait until you see the Google pie-chart next time around.
I know all the 2011 Xperias are now ICS, the 2012 Xperia S, with the others hot on their heels, wast swathes of HTC phones from 2011/2012, along with Moto, Samsung Note/Tabs, The Transformer range.
There isn't a whole lot from the last 18 months that's not got it yet, or not due it in the coming weeks.
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jadesse said:
6 months? Hell, I hope to have a tablet running Win8 by then.
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Really? You do know they don't run Windows apps right?
Nobody that's got a techbrain and equiped with the facts wants a Windows 8 tablet.

Watching the live stream now - source for JB is going to be mid July, so I don't think it will be TOO long before someone gives us JB - either Asus or CM or someone..

Yes I watched as well, SDK available today, Source Mid July, PDK available today (we don't qualify most likely unless someone wants to get into the hardware business). Available on current nexus devices by mid-July, and the Xoom I think I heard. I am really hopefully that our first gen Transformers get this because it will likely be the last update my tablet sees before it is upgraded some time next year. (2 year cycle on tablets and phones, phone already done this year now I just have to wait patiently till next year for a new tablet ;-) )
The Google Now and the new notification features is what really has me interested.

are we loosing the tablet ui? or is it because its 7 inches? it would be kinda awkward on the 10inch screen

CrazyPeter said:
That's what the Android hating Apple sites would have you think. Wait until you see the Google pie-chart next time around.
I know all the 2011 Xperias are now ICS, the 2012 Xperia S, with the others hot on their heels, wast swathes of HTC phones from 2011/2012, along with Moto, Samsung Note/Tabs, The Transformer range.
There isn't a whole lot from the last 18 months that's not got it yet, or not due it in the coming weeks.
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Ya i agree a lot of the phones sill on 2.3 and such are because people are to tech illiterate to press the check update now button or simlpy run odin/kies. It does not mean that the update is not available. And add that to the massive ammounts of sh*** chinese kirfs you get the poor looking pie chart

CrazyPeter said:
Really? You do know they don't run Windows apps right?
Nobody that's got a techbrain and equiped with the facts wants a Windows 8 tablet.
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I can't do anything productive with Android like use MS Office. NONE of the Android office suites do what I need them to do. So Microsoft is going to put Win8 on a tablet but you are not going to be able to use office. I don't think so.

The AOSP branches will probably see JellyBean versions coming out relatively soon after source code is released. As far as official JellyBean support from Asus... I'd say don't get your hopes up, and for sure don't count on it..