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Having a big problem with rom manager and bootstrapper

I have both of these on Apex 1.0.2. My problem is I can not get ROM Manager to boot into Recovery by its self when doing backup and restore and such. Also the reboot into recovery button under ROM Manager doesn't do it either. I've tried doing it with and without hitting the bootstrap recovery button first. Sometimes it boots with the green droid and the progress bar that starts and then a warning triangle comes up and the phone reboots as normal.
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Optimus_droid125 said:
I have both of these on Apex 1.0.2. My problem is I can not get ROM Manager to boot into Recovery by its self when doing backup and restore and such. Also the reboot into recovery button under ROM Manager doesn't do it either. I've tried doing it with and without hitting the bootstrap recovery button first. Sometimes it boots with the green droid and the progress bar that starts and then a warning triangle comes up and the phone reboots as normal.
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Which ROM manager? FRM? other ROM managers aren't made to work with the D2 and similar devices because the devices have to be bootstrapped. If you want to get into recovery it's best to stick with koush's bootstrap only as the others will mess up the way it's setup and reboot into recovery that way. It hasn't done me wrong yet and I've had my phone since September and I've flashed a little bit of everything and I've never used a ROM manger (D2 is my first android phone so no need) they may be fine for downloading but installing is always best done with koush's bootstrap.

ROM Manager from the market does not work with the Droid 2. You need to use Droid 2 Recovery Bootstrap.

I have koush's bootstrapper and koush's rom manager. Not even bootstrapper works to boot recovery. When click on boot recovery nothing happens
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Spitemare said:
ROM Manager from the market does not work with the Droid 2. You need to use Droid 2 Recovery Bootstrap.
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It worked fine on my droid 2 fine until I flashed the apex rom onto it
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Optimus_droid125 said:
I have koush's bootstrapper and koush's rom manager. Not even bootstrapper works to boot recovery. When click on boot recovery nothing happens
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have you pressed bootstrap recovery and received the "success" toast (notification)?

Yeah,everytime I press it it says it.
And when im on rom manager and I press reboot into recovery it will boot show me a progress bar with the little android guy on it, it will go like a quarter of the way. Show me a triangle with an exclamation point inside the boot again normally
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Optimus_droid125 said:
Yeah,everytime I press it it says it.
And when im on rom manager and I press reboot into recovery it will boot show me a progress bar with the little android guy on it, it will go like a quarter of the way. Show me a triangle with an exclamation point inside the boot again normally
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Like I posted before I've never used a ROM manager other than Fission ROM manager so I would try and uninstall the ROM manager and re-bootstrap because I think having two recoveries on there will mess each other up especially because the ROM manager has not been made for the D2 which has a locked bootloader. You might even have to sbf to get rid of the install of the ROM manger recovery I'm not sure. Take it in steps though don't try to do it all at once.

Thanks ill try it
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Optimus_droid125 said:
Thanks ill try it
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No problem hope it works out for you.

Thank you works perfectly. Got the apex gingerbread theme.
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Optimus_droid125 said:
Thank you works perfectly. Got the apex gingerbread theme.
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Great! Bootstrap is all you need for install at least.

Gingerbread recovery issues

Is anyone else not able to get into recovery? I can't access stock or clockworkmod recovery.
When I try to do a factory reset through the phone phone boots into bootloader with an error message.
As always thanks for looking.
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DXrecovery doesn't work with gingerbread, you gotta use the D2recovery instead

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DXrecovery doesn't work with gingerbread, you gotta use the D2recovery instead
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How do I get the D2 recovery for my DX. Sorry for the noob type?

So no stock recovery either?
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you need to get an sbf file of 2.2.1 and then use rsd lite to flash it to your phone... then you can use clockwork to get back.

I understand that. I'm trying to wipe data to clear up the constant sync error except I have no way of wiping data. Make sense?
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DizDroid said:
I understand that. I'm trying to wipe data to clear up the constant sync error except I have no way of wiping data. Make sense?
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download and install this
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m4t78yvtv8u3m4w/Droid2Bootstrap.apk
or you can buy it in the market for like 99 cents.

@davidukfl thank you.you solved the same issue I had
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DizDroid said:
Is anyone else not able to get into recovery? I can't access stock or clockworkmod recovery.
When I try to do a factory reset through the phone phone boots into bootloader with an error message.
As always thanks for looking.
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flash the patch p3 released to fix the stock recovery

luigi90210 said:
flash the patch p3 released to fix the stock recovery
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here is a direct link to the file to download
http://bit.ly/gpcGsN

Recovery Access in GB
Besides using a reboot into rocovery app, you can also shut down the phone, then pull the battery, put the battery back in and the normal Vol Down + Power will get you into Clockwork Recovery. Seems like GB is in some kind of stand by mode even when you power it down.

[Q] new to the forums

hey guys, Im new to the forums. I have an HTC Desire HD on Telus, joined to ask some genreal questions about rooting, Cyanogen Mod 7, etc.
Anyway, I recently got Cyanogenmod on my phone, and installed the Telus kernel thing at the end (following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954997). Anyway, the guide wasnt perfect here:
"2- Copy Telus Kernel.zip to your SD card from the "Step 2 - Telus Kernel" folder.
3- Run Kernel Update Utility (in the "Step 3 - Kernel Update Utility" folder) and click "Select a cwm zip", then click next, then click Go to fastboot, wait for the white bootloader screen on your phone, then click Flash. Once it's done, it'll reboot back into Android."
I wasn't sure what to select as a cwm.zip...so I chose the telus kernel zip in the "Step 2 - Telus Kernel" Folder. everything went fine until boot up. It just hung at the HTC turn on screen...and I couldnt even get into reboot recovery. Sent it in and now I have a new one...Still want CyanogenMod. Just dont wanna screw it up a second time. Thanks for any help
~Stu

What you should of done is hold vol- and power button and that would of took you to recovery.
Anyways, from personal experience i've flashed different kernel to try out a number of times, my advice is to copy the kernel into your sd card and boot into recovery and flash the kernel as you would flash a rom..
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hey, ya I tried the down volume plus power, it did nothing. anyway, maybe Ill try it that way. boot into recovery and flash it from there. The Telus kernel is so that I can hear out of the earspeaker correct?

That's right.. Boot into recovery and flash the kernel. The utility is just an automation of that process as far as I understand.
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So why did my phone brick then? And can you tell me the process once in reboot recovery? Like what I should do before actually installing it? Such as wipe the cache, etc.
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BiggPoppa22 said:
So why did my phone brick then? And can you tell me the process once in reboot recovery? Like what I should do before actually installing it? Such as wipe the cache, etc.
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Technically if you phone booted into the boot screen , it wasn't bricked. whatever that was flashed caused a boot loop.
1. Hold Vol- and power button, wait for it to boot and release the keys.
2. select the option install zip from sdcard
3. Find the kernal and select it.
4. Once flashed select reboot system now.
All done

So that is for the ear speaker then?
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BiggPoppa22 said:
So that is for the ear speaker then?
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Absolutely not

What's it for then? Why would I have to put it on after I get cyanogen mod? When I had it on my last phone (before it got fixed) just the phone feature didn't work...texting worked though...i don't understand what it is meant for...i know it's a total noob question, but I have to ask lol
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BiggPoppa22 said:
So why did my phone brick then? And can you tell me the process once in reboot recovery? Like what I should do before actually installing it? Such as wipe the cache, etc.
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From your initial post
I wasn't sure what to select as a cwm.zip...so I chose the telus kernel zip
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you flashed a kernel to your recovery partition, which will have at least stopped it rebooting into recovery, what you should have done is returned to fastboot and flashed clockwork recovery and all would have been working.

Oh...so I should just do the whole thing from sd on the card in reboot recovery?
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[Q] What step am I missing CWM

Hey guys.
Sooooo sorry if i am missing something obvious.. Im trying to do a backup after a fresh rooted .605 from Tom Tools thread.
Rooted fine. (see superuser)
Downloaded Rom Manager
Clicked Flash Clockworkmod Recovery
Chose Droid X
Said it did
Reboot into recovery just boots back to the OS.
Is there something between here and there I need to do?

just downloaded bootstrapper for droidx....now it boots to a black screen.

mrhunters said:
just downloaded bootstrapper for droidx....now it boots to a black screen.
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You must use Droid 2 Bootatrapper instead of the Droid X version.
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ok thanks. got that , got into recovery... now the camera button doesnt (or any other button) select an option. i can just toggle up and down using vol keys

looks like my camera button is broken and I just called to find out my warranty expires in 6 days! I'm not usually a lucky person so that is pretty lucky for me
Will revisit this with the new phone

ok so this might have to be a new thread but.
I unrooted since it will be going back on Monday.
I need to get rid of SU and from what i read i have to sbf or use maderstcok - OTA 2.3.340 update.zip
Both guides NEED the camera button......
Is there another way?

mrhunters said:
ok so this might have to be a new thread but.
I unrooted since it will be going back on Monday.
I need to get rid of SU and from what i read i have to sbf or use maderstcok - OTA 2.3.340 update.zip
Both guides NEED the camera button......
Is there another way?
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You shouldn't need the camera button to SBF.
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you need it to get to stock boot loader....
at least thats what the guide says.?

mrhunters said:
you need it to get to stock boot loader....
at least thats what the guide says.?
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If on Gingerbread, holding both volume keys and pressing the power button gets you into bootloader mode. I believe it's different if you're on Froyo.
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that worked... sbf'ing as i type this.

[Q] What next?

So i ended getting stuck in a reboot loop while trying to use droid x recovery bootstrap. Ultimately, i used rsd lite and sbf 2.3.320. So the question is what next? i tried to get the ota gingerbread update from verizon by updating through my phone, but it says that it is up to date. Do i need to re root my phone and flash a current version of gingerbread.
I did make a full titanium backup before is crashed my phone. I am still a little root shy after my first experience.

Try rebooting a few times and checking again. You could always just do a Gingerbread SBF if need be, though.
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Thanks. i will try that. If i end up using a gingerbread sbf, do i need to be rooted? Otherwise, just follow the same sbf directions i used before?

SBFing does not require root, if that is what you're asking.
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I ended up sbf back to 602 and got an OTA update to 605. Then rooted with 1 click root. Reloaded app from titanium back up.
Feeling a little more comfortable with the whole rooting thing. I think i ended up in a boot loop because i used droid x bootstrap which is not compatible with gingerbread.
So now i want to make sure i understand what i am doing. droid 2 bootstrap will prevent my stock rom from loading and instead will allow me to replace the rom manually. Once i reboot, it will boot into the new rom. i downloaded rom manager which will essentially automate to process of using a new rom.
One question though. Can i use rom manager to back up the stock 605 rom and go back to that if i want?
Hope this noob is starting to learn

You definitely should be able to.
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From personal experience I have had problems with ROM manager on gingerbread...i would download Droid 2 bootstrap from the market and press (bootstrap recovery) then (OK) followed by (reboot recovery)
That should get you right into Clockwork mod Recovery without problems....then use the volume down button and go to (backup and restore) then just press your camera button to select backup...
Once finished just hit the back button and reboot and you should have a perfectly good Nandroid backup of your current system
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Boarder277 said:
From personal experience I have had problems with ROM manager on gingerbread...i would download Droid 2 bootstrap from the market and press (bootstrap recovery) then (OK) followed by (reboot recovery)
That should get you right into Clockwork mod Recovery without problems....then use the volume down button and go to (backup and restore) then just press your camera button to select backup...
Once finished just hit the back button and reboot and you should have a perfectly good Nandroid backup of your current system
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This is the method I use and it has worked fine.
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Thanks for your help. I got the the phone running on liquid rom. Pretty cool. I guess the 2nd init roms only work on older, rooted versions for the dx? I will do a manual rom flash also, just to understand what i am doing with the rom manager.

Gadget_Guru said:
Thanks for your help. I got the the phone running on liquid rom. Pretty cool. I guess the 2nd init roms only work on older, rooted versions for the dx? I will do a manual rom flash also, just to understand what i am doing with the rom manager.
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2nd init can work on either Froyo kernel based (older) or Gingerbread kernel (newer) roms.
Check the rom's thread to find out what kernel it uses and for installation instructions.
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