How stupid is it to upgrade to Windows 8 on your main laptop? I use it for photoshop and microsoft office.
I don't have enough space to partition the drive, but I really want windows 8. I just am worried about regretting it.
I have installed it on my main machine, no problems, runs everything I install, I have Photoshop Element 9 and it runs well. Download the Consumer Preview Setup Program, run it first to see if you'll run into problems, you can either continue to install from Setup Program, this will download and install in a accordance with how you wish to install, or you can download .iso, burn to DVD, just cancer Setup Program and install from DVD, I did it that way. Jim
its always best to install a beta OS on either a different partition or second drive. to make it so you can get another partition you have to shrink the space of the current one.
I can say that Photoshop works fine, i don't use MS Office so can't help you there. A second partition or a virtual machine would be your best bet if your unsure though.
I agree. I set up a partition to test all the programs I currently run. They all passed with flying colors (sorry, no PS or MSOffice ).
Once I was satisfied, I deleted the partition, installed 8 on my primary, and now I'm 100% windows 8 on my PC. Loving it!
guys, c'mon, its a beta! Betas expire!
There may be a way to upgrade to purchased W8 without losing everything, then again there may not, we'll have to wait and see. There's definitely not going to be a way to easily "step back down" to windows 7 or older.
Obviously you can backup files and reinstall some programs, but you have to think about this realistically
Im not sure but is the consumer preview out yet?
Bcoz ive been using the developer's pre on my laptop dual booting alongside win 7 ofc...Since its really buggy.....(I.E: While gaming or using a program accidentally clicking on the bottom left side of your screen(clicking the startup button)will bring u back to desktop.
Might aswell wait for the betas coz it feels like it more in an alpha mode right now!
Developer preview was alpha, consumer preview is the beta & much less buggy & out now.
As for upgrading later to full release, it doesn't take much to back up your documents if you have too.
The consumer preview comes in a couple of different flavours, iso & installer. The installer allows you to upgrade windows seven keeping your documents and programs that are known to be compatible. However, that option didn't work for me when I tried it. It would point to Microsoft making an effort to make migration to windows 8 in the future a lot less painful.
deamoniac7 said:
Im not sure but is the consumer preview out yet?
Bcoz ive been using the developer's pre on my laptop dual booting alongside win 7 ofc...Since its really buggy.....(I.E: While gaming or using a program accidentally clicking on the bottom left side of your screen(clicking the startup button)will bring u back to desktop.
Might aswell wait for the betas coz it feels like it more in an alpha mode right now!
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that's not a bug, that's by design.
and that holds true for the consumer preview as well, which is out now, has been for a while.
How many of you installed it like This:
http://www.hyper-v.nu/archives/hvre...oot-from-vhd-with-windows-8-consumer-preview/
or http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Guide...s8DeveloperPreviewOffAVHDVirtualHardDisk.aspx
When you are done, Just delete the VHD drive I have it running on 2 machines and everything is working fine.
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How many of you installed it like This:
http://www.hyper-v.nu/archives/hvre...oot-from-vhd-with-windows-8-consumer-preview/
or http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Guide...s8DeveloperPreviewOffAVHDVirtualHardDisk.aspx
When you are done, Just delete the VHD drive I have it running on 2 machines and everything is working fine.
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I would have suggested this too. Safest way to test w8. Gives you access to your main harddrive too. Just make sure ur main partition is ntfs. To make following the tutorial easy.
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I have recently upgraded my windows 7 to windows 8 and have had lots of problems since that. Firstly I can't download/install lang packs. My laptop is from germany and I don't know how but when I upgraded to W8 it automatically changed to German and it doesn't give me an option to download/install any other language. [Solved]
Secondly, I can't open any apps. When I click on one, it loads a screen saying "App Preview" and then comes back to the Start metro interface. How do I at least fix that?
luizmeme said:
[...] I can't open any apps. When I click on one, it loads a screen saying "App Preview" and then comes back to the Start metro interface. How do I at least fix that? I've given up on the lang pack thing.
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A friend of mine had exactly the same problem.
Finally, it ended up with a clean install of Windows 8.
It may sound crazy, but Metro apps need hardware acceleration. Install the latest Windows7 driver for you video card.
Most of the integrated drivers have hardware acceleration. I get this problem every so often, just keep opening it till it stays open.
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I have installed the latest Windows 8 CP AMD driver for the HD6000M series and still no-go. What else can I do that doesn't involve reinstalling the system. I can't lose my documents, photos etc...
I have solved the language pack thing at least.
luizmeme said:
I have installed the latest Windows 8 CP AMD driver for the HD6000M series and still no-go. What else can I do that doesn't involve reinstalling the system. I can't lose my documents, photos etc...
I have solved the language pack thing at least.
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Did you install it from ATI's page ? The one in the windows repository doesn't work very well.
I had installed the Consumer Preview before and now I have installed this one:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Windows8ConsumerPreviewDrivers.aspx
It's still not working.
I personally hate, hate windows 8!
But then again you can call me a apple fanboy
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I personally hate, hate windows 8!
But then again you can call me a apple fanboy
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thanks for that insightful post mate, moving along....
ive had issues with apps not opening, but as already mentioned trying a couple more times usually works. Im not convinced about sticking with the upgrade, if you have the space id suggest a fresh install WITHOUT deleting the partitions, the install wizard will copy all your old windows folders to a new folder called Windows.old.
You can then work through it coping all your files to the new OS and delete it when your happy.
everything you need will likely be in windows.old\users\username\
another good place to hunt about is windows.old\programData\
before you try all that, this is going to sound stupid but have you tried turning off your computer?,
yesterday Windows had updated some files in the background (WMC) my Mail App was refusing to sync with no errors at all, when I shut down the computer it came up that it was installing updates so I turned off the PC at the wall for a few min and when it rebooted it worked perfectly...
it's a common problem if you upgrade to win8.
Solutions:
1.) Do a clean install (no upgrade from win7 or other win8 beta)
2.) Fix it.
Save the below to a .reg file, execute it and restart your machine.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Ole]
"MachineLaunchRestriction"=hex:01,00,04,80,90,00,00,00,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
14,00,00,00,02,00,7c,00,05,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,1f,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,\
00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00,00,00,14,00,0b,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,\
00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,1f,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,\
00,32,02,00,00,00,00,18,00,1f,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,\
2f,02,00,00,00,00,18,00,0b,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,0f,02,00,00,00,01,\
00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,\
00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00
"MachineAccessRestriction"=hex:01,00,04,80,8c,00,00,00,9c,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
14,00,00,00,02,00,78,00,05,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,07,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,\
00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,03,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,07,00,\
00,00,00,00,18,00,07,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,32,02,00,\
00,00,00,18,00,07,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,2f,02,00,00,\
00,00,18,00,03,00,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,0f,02,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,01,\
02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,\
00,00,20,02,00,00
I have tried the regedit fix but that didn't work either.
I think it's a problem with the videocard driver, as when I upgraded, I couldn't open CCC anymore.
I'm trying to uninstall the driver to reinstall but I am facing some problems right now, the driver won't remove completely it appears and it won't let me update to the recent one.
Hey guys,
I have tried multiple clean installs of win8 (RP) because repeatedly the metro apps stopped opening after working fine initially. I was able to nail the problem down to kasperky internet security. I tried webroot internet security and things are working great.
Try it and trust me, it will work.
I don't think that is my issue here as I don't use any anti virus software other than MS Security Essentials.
Same issue here... Cut the rope and Weather will not work. Rest of apps do work. They all worked on Consumer preview... i did the upgrade to RC from there. I'm going to fresh install it next, but i was hoping i could work it out 1st.
It seems I managed to get the graphics card driver to work, CCC is now opening but still I can't get the apps to load. What now?
It's a common problem. I have trouble opening my apps too on multiple tries. It's not your display driver. Just keep opening the same app and eventually it will open.
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download latest windows 8 developer preview it will work
No, it won't. The fix is the change to the Registry.
Microsoft themselves have no clue about the issue - they'll tell you it's a graphics driver problem, but that's wrong.
If the first Registry fix doesn't work, try this one in addition to the first:
(it might break your installation!)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Ole]
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695265
-Open Charms Bar (Windows key + C)
-Select Settings ---> Change PC settings
-Open Ease of Accsess
-Turn off ----> Tab through webpages and app using care browsing
Now you can add gmail and much else that did not work.
None of the suggestions above seemed to work
I think I'll give up.
Guys, is there any way to downgrade from win 8.1 to 8? Without losing my data? I want my windows 8 back so desperately, I feel very frustrated with windows 8.1 which doesn't supports many of my apps. Can someone help me?
Do you not have your recovery discs or usb drive? You may have a partition your hdd with it also. I had to go back to 8 because I needed to update some of my drivers and software pre 8.1. I just installed back to factory stock using my usb recovery. It was easy just insert and follow the prompts.
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Do you not have your recovery discs or usb drive? You may have a partition your hdd with it also. I had to go back to 8 because I needed to update some of my drivers and software pre 8.1. I just installed back to factory stock using my usb recovery. It was easy just insert and follow the prompts.
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I don't think I have any recovery discs or usb drive with me, I didn't expect this would happen so I didn't make any backup before I install 8.1, is it possible for me to create a usb recovery with windows 8 now?
You probably have one on HDD. Hit win key + x and go to disk management and you should have a recovery partition.
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nikctsh said:
Guys, is there any way to downgrade from win 8.1 to 8? Without losing my data? I want my windows 8 back so desperately, I feel very frustrated with windows 8.1 which doesn't supports many of my apps. Can someone help me?
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The only possible way to restore is getting back to factory condition using the Windows 8 Refresh or Reset. Any app installed will also be gone but it will keep your documents and personal files safe. Refresh will also put an HTML link on your desktop showing what programs were lost and the links to downloading them again.
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The only possible way to restore is getting back to factory condition using the Windows 8 Refresh or Reset. Any app installed will also be gone but it will keep your documents and personal files safe. Refresh will also put an HTML link on your desktop showing what programs were lost and the links to downloading them again.
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Now I'm on window 8.1 and refreshing can bring my system back to windows 8? I'm okay with all the apps but does this include desktop apps?
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You probably have one on HDD. Hit win key + x and go to disk management and you should have a recovery partition.
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Thanks I will try this. But by doing this will it remove all my personal files and apps?
If you restore to 8 you will lose everything
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All those mourning about 8.1 and go back on 8.0 read instructions here
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/restore-refresh-reset-pc
I'm curious to know how bad the update was?
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I'm curious to know how bad the update was?
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I'm not sure what others think. It was really bad, at least for me. Firstly I hate the new start button. Basically it serves no purpose since it doesnt comes with the most-wanted start menu. On windows 8, I used to keep my taskbar clean (without pinned apps) because there is no start button. But now, the button is there and couldnt be remove, but it's function is disappointing. Anyway, the worst of all is still the compatibility issue. A lot of my apps previously on windows 8 couldn't run. It has been almost one year long of wait before my favorite apps on windows 7 become compatible with windows 8, but after a few weeks it couldn't run anymore because I upgraded my device to 8.1, I'm not sure how long I have to wait this time.
nikctsh said:
I'm not sure what others think. It was really bad, at least for me. Firstly I hate the new start button. Basically it serves no purpose since it doesnt comes with the most-wanted start menu. On windows 8, I used to keep my taskbar clean (without pinned apps) because there is no start button. But now, the button is there and couldnt be remove, but it's function is disappointing. Anyway, the worst of all is still the compatibility issue. A lot of my apps previously on windows 8 couldn't run. It has been almost one year long of wait before my favorite apps on windows 7 become compatible with windows 8, but after a few weeks it couldn't run anymore because I upgraded my device to 8.1, I'm not sure how long I have to wait this time.
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I've tried about 2 laptops with windows 8 in the past 5 months or so, and I returned them because I just didnt like windows 8. Dont need a touchscreen on my laptop. I figured let me wait for the 8.1 update as it should improve UI, and I'll wait to see the laptops released in the 3rd/4th quarter but from what I'm hearing so far windows is going to push me towards a macbook and even if I have to dual boot a windows 7 on it so be it lol.
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I've tried about 2 laptops with windows 8 in the past 5 months or so, and I returned them because I just didnt like windows 8. Dont need a touchscreen on my laptop. I figured let me wait for the 8.1 update as it should improve UI, and I'll wait to see the laptops released in the 3rd/4th quarter but from what I'm hearing so far windows is going to push me towards a macbook and even if I have to dual boot a windows 7 on it so be it lol.
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I'm using windows 8 without touchscreen too, oops, now 8.1. If you don't like touchscreen on laptop, then you should NEVER, NEVER get windows 8.1. Its just awful for non-touchscreen users like me. Previously you can access all apps menu by easily right click or swipe up on your touchpad, but on 8.1 the only way to access that menu is by swiping up from the middle of the start screen, which means there's no way for you to access that menu using touchpad, though you still can access by clicking on a superb small arrow on start screen. For me the menu comes in handy on windows 8 but its a trouble on 8.1
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I'm using windows 8 without touchscreen too, oops, now 8.1. If you don't like touchscreen on laptop, then you should NEVER, NEVER get windows 8.1. Its just awful for non-touchscreen users like me. Previously you can access all apps menu by easily right click or swipe up on your touchpad, but on 8.1 the only way to access that menu is by swiping up from the middle of the start screen, which means there's no way for you to access that menu using touchpad, though you still can access by clicking on a superb small arrow on start screen. For me the menu comes in handy on windows 8 but its a trouble on 8.1
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Or total rocket science, the little key on the bottom left of your keyboard with a lovely windows icon on it.... takes you straight to start. Go into the windows 8.1 settings and you can change it to take you direct to the all apps screen instead but this is pointless in my opinion. If you go to start, then begin to type the name of the app you want and it will immediately search for it, try it out. I just type "je" and it already has jetpack joyride there, hit enter, launches, or you can navigate around the search results with the arrow keys or click. Really not that hard to use without a touchscreen, even my grandfather can do it and he's in his late 70's
Also, right click on start. All apps button appears bigger.
So now that people are upgrading to the release of Win 10, I'm curious about your experience.
For me, it's a smooth OS with a lot of things I need to get used to but I have made some discoveries.
The task bar - on my main monitor won't auto hide. A search tells me this has been a bug for the last few technical releases. Oddly enough, all of a sudden, a few minutes ago, it started to work but I assume this will stop in the next reboot.
The Mail App totally sucks. No number of new emails in each account when you click on accounts. No view for all accounts. No using mouse/shift to select multiple messages. No Check boxes to select all messages in any folder. New incoming messages show up in the action center, only, but you have to open it to see them. Not getting desktop notifications.
Cortana looks like it could be good but setup has been a pain since for some reason my Microsoft LifeCam Cinema HD cam can barely hear my voice, even with level up all the way.
Camera App - totally doesn't open at all. I had to d/l a third party app which I don't like.
Settings page is tough to find things like Advanced Settings. That's WAS, oddly, in System/About but now it;s gone and replaced by other shortcuts. so setting the paging file size manually, etc is just gone for now.
Edge is the best browser yet by MS, but it's not going to get me to stop using Chrome
What are everyone else's thoughts so far?
It's nearly perfect. Drivers catched up, not a single incompatible program, major performance boost in games after installing the latest Nvidia driver. The only bug I've seen so far - Action Center's tray icon is lit on on system startup even though it's empty.
I'm recommending it to everyone I know, I've already installed it on 3 PCs I have access to. It's just 10/10.
Upgrade??
First, so far I like Windows 10 a whole lot better than Windows 8.1, but the upgrade has been a nightmare.
The upgrade on my AlienWare (Dell) laptop went smooth. No problems at all. The upgrade for my Surface Pro 3 (Microsoft) has been anything but smooth. Microsoft's own computer did not upgrade right. First, it installed Windows 10 Home even though the Windows 8.1 that was on it was the Pro version. It also wiped out all of my installed programs and apps. I didn't lose any data but the applications will all have to be reinstalled.
Mine won't even install on my Asus Transformer. Says Key cannot be verified....
If you are still having problems and difficulties upgrading your PC to windows 10, kindly follow this post on my website. A few clean up steps got my Dell system to upgrade to Windows 10 http://www.selftechgenius.com/how-to-geek-2/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-10-for-free/
OK, so here's a big one. I use my 500GB D:\ drive to store documents, downloads, pictures and videos by default. I tried to save a picture off the web to the pictures folder and got access denied error.
So I looked properties, security and noticed 2 things. 1, the folder was marked as read only and 2, there was and Unknown User account. I deleted that account, and changed the properties on both C: and D: drives and that fixed it but you should all go check to see if you have the same thing.
I'm thinking I'm going to get a 1 TB HDD backup to put all my personal things on, format both drives, then do a clean install. I've always hated doing OS upgrades on top of older releases and the few bugs I have, like the camera app not working or the VIA HD Deck app not opening are the reason why. I just have to wait for all my hardware devices to release Win 10 drivers
I wasn't a fan of Windows 10. Immediately after "upgrading" the track pad on my laptop didn't work properly anymore. Based on my research it's a driver issue with no solution until the driver is updated. Who knows when that will be.... I use my laptop a lot for school and can't afford to wait.
Microsoft also removed basic tools like paint with no good replacements in the app store. I also didn't like how it pretty much turned my laptop into a phone by calling the Control Panel "settings" and having an app store and stupid stuff like that. I went back to Windows 7 after less than an hour on Windows 10 and couldn't be happier.
I did like the UI, though. It kinda reminded me of the material design of Android 5.x with the flat colors and stuff.
I am very happy with win 10, got it on my Desktop and my Tablet and even though i had some touchscreen issues in the beginning it works well now on both devices
I did a clean install on my laptop, as opposed to the update on my desktop, and it's better. Cortana works right, etc.
My ONLY beef is the mail app sucks
I upgraded my Lenovo to Windows 10 with the media creation tool but after a week or so decided to do a clean install to get rid of the terrible bloat(though most of it I removed when I got the laptop).
I downloaded the ISO and CLEARLY remember choosing 64bit Home Single Language. But after I diakpart the drive and reinstall the OS I realize that I have a 32 bit version installed.
And my 15GB limit of "high" speed broadband is exhausted and I CANNOT download a 4 gig file on a 512 Kbps connection.
I'm stuck till next month or till my friend gives me the 64 bit ISO.
But its completely my fault, so guys BEWARE, don't make stupid mistakes!!!!
But I like the OS(mostly). After disabling Microsoft's sneaky data collection and automatic updates its all good. Don't forget to disable live tiles cause they hog bandwidth too.
But boot speed is faster, performance is better and multiple desktops and snapping is great!
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I don't like Windows 10 at all. It sucks on Tablet(Touch) and PC/Laptop. With StartIsBack++ you can fix Win10 a bit for mouse/keyboard, but the UI is still cluttered and ugly as hell.
Really?? I don;t have that problem at all, especially when doing a clean install
My upgrade went well.. But afterwards it was a nightmare. It took my DAYS and about 14 reboots just to get it unfrozen long enough to open task manager with ctrl+alt+delete. Then, suddenly, after a reboot, it worked. It is now even faster than 8.1 (although I sometimes need to use task manager to speed it up). All of my programs and files work.. Except for cam studio which didn't work on 8.1 either. [emoji13]
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I totally agree with Mail app sucks. I sent some emails but sent items folder is still empty, not syncing.. And honestly, I don't like the settings app because eventually it forwards you to the control panel for lots of settings. So what's the meaning of this setting app, right?
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I totally agree with Mail app sucks. I sent some emails but sent items folder is still empty, not syncing.. And honestly, I don't like the settings app because eventually it forwards you to the control panel for lots of settings. So what's the meaning of this setting app, right?
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Right. I just pinned Control Panel to Start so i can get right to it
I have Windows 10 pro. Whenever I try to connect to my pc using various remote desktop apps on my android, it gets connected for a moment and then it shows error message that someone else is connected to your pc please try later.
Any suggestions?
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I did a fresh install, I like it, just that there's no direct access to the computer from the start bar, I managed to pin 'this pc' to it, but It wasn't good enough.
I added the start menu back from Stardock Start10.
fresh w10pro install here on an hp elitebook. no issues at all.
On Acer fresh update, no problems
I updated my Toshiba Satellite to Windows 10 and it runs smooth. There's only an annoying thing. Sometimes when I turn on the PC and log in it says that Cortana and Start Menu aren't working, so I must have to turn off and to solve this problem temporarily I have to press Shift while it turns on. But some days after it happens again.