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whats the whole point of FLASH. i want to do that to my phone but what will it do to the phone. can someone explain to me about FLASH.
Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.
yeah im talking about flashing rom. does this help the phone on working fast?
yes it does.
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Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.
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Sorry to correct you, but the Tmous has also 576MB RAM instead of 1024MB RAM, the European version does have 448MB RAM default, but after flashing a Tmous radio the ram can be unlocked so i has also 576MB RAM. I think you are meaning ROM instead of RAM
For me it's the RAM / Random Access Memory that counts since it's the memory you need to use in operation in contrary to ROM / Read Only Memory which is only needed to store your OS/Bootloader etc.
And cpu wise they got the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250B chipset/cpu running @ 1Ghz.
Ow and TS, if you are asking yourself what a FLASH is ? please don't try it if you got zero knowledge/understanding/informing yourself about flashing (be it pc,psp,hd2 etc.) that won't be such a good idea
Take a look at these threads:
Flashing a ROM (International HD2)
Flashing a ROM (TMOUS HD2)
Flashing a new Radio ROM
Complete HD2 guide for flashing (Video's included)
It's a lot to go over, but if you are going to flash your device I highly recommend you know what you are doing. A mistake can mean a very expensive paperweight.
To answer you question on the "whole point" thing..
There are several reasons one might want to flash their device.
I flashed hspl2 at first because I didn't like T-Mobil's lame pink pre-bootscreen. Then more recently I flashed a new Radio ROM.
Many (perhaps most) people flash "cooked" ROMs built by other members of xda (or themselves) which include their favorite apps, tweaks, themes, lockscreens, etc. already built into the ROM. Custom ROM's can also include updates to the Winmo OS.
Another reason is to change the Radio. The Radio ROM (not the FM radio) is the software that controls how your device handles data and phone connections.
Many people, including myself, flash a different Radio. Personally, I have found that my battery life, signal, and data connections have dramatically improved after doing this. You might also need to flash a new radio if you are going to try out the new(ish) android port.
Ya sorry for the mistakes. Thought for some reason the Euro version had a smaller proc as well. As for the RAM-ROM thing ya just wasn't thinking as I typed.
thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???
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thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???
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Well what ROM you want to flash solely depends on what your wants/needs are. I personally prefer a clean 6.5.5 build (finger friendly/start buttons on bottom) and my current ROM is Cloudy 1.5
You will first need to flash HSPL3 before attempting to flash anything else. This will protect you from bricking your phone from a bad flash and also enables you to flash your phone from SD Card instead of USB cable and PC etc.
Once you have chosen your rom just stick the nbh file (rename to LEOIMG.nbh) onto root of SD and boot into loader.
Read all the needed info before attempting anything.
Today T-Mobile released another update for the HD2. Is it really worth the time it takes to back up and reinstall everything I currently have on my phone? If lagging and freezing issues come from the low class SD card, will this ROM do anything to aid performance even with the crappy card? What about the TXT horrible lag...I wonder if that is fixed...if not, this update really doesn't fix my problems...any thoughts?
I think you should read some of the threads already posted about the new 3.14 ROM that was just released yesterday.
3.14 T-Mobile Stock ROM PRO's and Cons
[Q] 3.14 ROM and SMS lag..dear god say its fixed.
I have heard nothing but good reviews about it. I would strongly suggest updating your HD2 to this new 3.14 ROM
do it. mine wasn't responding to screen taps in certain spots, believe it or not, it's fixed now .
Does anyone know how to do the update from a Mac?
You can't. The RUU will only run under Windows. You can however extract the actual ROM file itself from the RUU using StuffIt and then follow the instructions on how to rename it and put it on an SD card and flash it that way. Check out the stickies for more info.
hi,
i am in india and i purchased an HTC HD2 from a local shop who sold me outside india HTC HD2 phone.
now from the day i got it the phone keeps on restarting all the time.
mostly it restarts when internet connection is attmepted to be made.
i tried to update it with HTC site but still the problem remains the same.
here is the details after updation.
OS version:..5.2.21913
manila: 2.5.20181527.0
ROM version: 3.14.720.3(04666)WWE
ROM date: 10\08\10
Radio: 2.15.50.14
protocol:15.42.50.11U
now the major concern is i have no idea of flashing the phone and m little scared too to do it without any expert around
and which one should i try to check if the system has hardware problem or software?
WINDOWS 7 or ANDROID.
tell me where to download the best available ROM for that too,
This is in the wrong place. If you're having issues with the HD2 and a WM6.5 ROM, you should go http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=980 there.
Second: flashing is super easy. Just read one of the tutorials.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924051
Start there. You'll find just about everything you'll need. Incidentally, I recommend Windows Phone 7 over Android. But since you're going to be putting MAGLDR on your phone, you might as well try them both. It's not going to hurt!
thanks for a generous reply i really appreciated it.
my main concern is will upgrading to windows 7 will solve my problem regarding the restarting.
a shop keeper said that it is due to wrong country update coz the phone is from outside india and someone tried to update it to indian update.
so will flashing solve the problem or not?
hardik_hrc said:
thanks for a generous reply i really appreciated it.
my main concern is will upgrading to windows 7 will solve my problem regarding the restarting.
a shop keeper said that it is due to wrong country update coz the phone is from outside india and someone tried to update it to indian update.
so will flashing solve the problem or not?
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First, don't think flashing is just for anyone. You can read the tutorials, but be very careful..one wrong move and you can brick your phone. Be very careful if you've never flashed before.
Secondly, you said you got your HD2 outside of India, but is it the European version or the U.S. version that you bought? If you have the U.S. version, you should see 1GB ROM. The European version has 512MB ROM.
Third, depending on which version you have you need to find the appropriate radio and protocol for your HD2 version and the country you are in.
Fourth, check out YukiXDA's WP7 ROM. He's the one who took DFT's base WP7 to NODO and beyond.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080950
Finally, as for the restarting issue, you may encounter the same issue with WP7 because WP7 is very particular about the SD card being used. There have been many reports of non-compliant SD cards causing reboots. Another thing is to use a class 4 card as a bare minimum.
If you want to stay with WM6.5.5 check this ROM out. I used Energy WM ROMS for almost a year before switching to WP7. This is the link for Energy WM 6.5.5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
For flashing tutorials...see the links in my signature for both WP7 and WM. And btw...updates for HD2 or any phone are usually carrier specific, so the OS and radio updates are distributed by the carriers and not by HTC. Also, flashing a different OS may or may not tell you if you have hardware problems. You'll notice hardware problems if you have difficulty using the phone's functions, but even then it could be a matter of the OS version you have installed.
I just love WP7 on my TMOUS HD2! It's given new life to an already great phone hardware.
I have a TMOUS HD2 and I get restarts all the time whether in Android, WP7, and WM6.5. I think it is related to the processor overheating. I will not have any problems all day and then in the afternoon when it is 50C plus, it will freeze or reboot and not start again till it is inside and cooled off. I've read this is common with HD2s.
well i installed android sd rom and after that it stopped booting so i sold the phone back to the shop keeper...!
i think the hardware had problems.
so now i am again in search of good phone.
any suggestions?
I just purchased an HTC HD2; which came with a dual boot of Windows Mobile and Froyo on the SD card.
I wanted to install CM7; but I'm new to the whole process and I have heard various methods of installing it; either on the SD card, NAND, or RAM?
What are the pro's/con's of each? Which would you recommend?
Go with NAND and MAGLDR.
RAM builds are kinda obsolete now.
SD Card.. uses more battery and cannot mount the phone as USB mass storage.
Latest ROMs, tweaks etc are in NAND.
NAND hands down.
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I just purchased an HTC HD2; which came with a dual boot of Windows Mobile and Froyo on the SD card.
I wanted to install CM7; but I'm new to the whole process and I have heard various methods of installing it; either on the SD card, NAND, or RAM?
What are the pro's/con's of each? Which would you recommend?
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I would recommend trying multiple different ROMs on SD (e.g. CM7, MIUI, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5 etc.) on SD, then, once you've selected a ROM, flash a similar NAND ROM.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I've heard some rumors that NAND has some issues so I wasn't sure.
Is NAND the ROM?
Since I will most likely do a NAND flash, this would be the best guide right? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948)
Also, the phone is currently SIM-Locked;I wont be getting the unlock code from the buyer for another day, would I still be able to flash the phone and THEN input the unlock code after without screwing up anything?
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Since I will most likely do a NAND flash, this would be the best guide right? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948)
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yeah, that one guide is great.
I would personally advise you to try out the clk versions, it acts more like a native android device. Also, with clk you will be able to use clockwork mod recovery, which makes things a lot easier.
I'm using AmeriCanAndroid, and I couldn't be happier about it.
But anyway, for sure go for the Nand version, that means that android will be installed as the native operation system, formatting the internal memory and getting rid of windows mobile. You won't need it anymore.
P.s. Just to make things clearer: nand is installing android on internal memory, clk and magldr are types of bootloaders to use and install nand android through.
Sent from my HD2 using my fingers.
I would recommend using a NAND based ROM over an SD. Uses less battery and is smoother running, unless you just have to have WM. And if an issue arises, a NAND based ROM is easy to back up or change out to a different ROM. On your question on unlocking your phone, the process is independent of whether your phone is on WM or Android. The procedure to unlock the phone is based on the IMEI number of the phone and uses hidden features on the phone independent of the OS on board.
Thanks guys. I just had a few more questions,
Is the guide that I posted compatible with a T-Mobile version hd2?
In terms of flashing, are there any big things to be careful about to avoid bricking your phone? (radio, etc?). Would there be any way to salvage a phone if something were to happen?
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Thanks guys. I just had a few more questions,
Is the guide that I posted compatible with a T-Mobile version hd2?
In terms of flashing, are there any big things to be careful about to avoid bricking your phone? (radio, etc?). Would there be any way to salvage a phone if something were to happen?
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That's the guide I used to flash my T-Mobile US phone. So it should work for you as well. If something did happen to your phone, you can always flash back to WM. Follow the guide, you shouldn't find that you will brick your phone. As long as you don't flash the wrong radio. US phones use the 2.xx.50.xx versions and EU use the 2.xx.51.xx versions of radio. If you search for the radio thread, it will fully explain this and have the correct/latest radios available for download. Just don't mix them up and you won't brick your phone. Latest radio version for US phones is already in the guide that you posted.
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That's the guide I used to flash my T-Mobile US phone. So it should work for you as well. If something did happen to your phone, you can always flash back to WM. Follow the guide, you shouldn't find that you will brick your phone. As long as you don't flash the wrong radio. US phones use the 2.xx.50.xx versions and EU use the 2.xx.51.xx versions of radio. If you search for the radio thread, it will fully explain this and have the correct/latest radios available for download. Just don't mix them up and you won't brick your phone. Latest radio version for US phones is already in the guide that you posted.
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Thanks! The seller mentioned he flashed the latest radio, is there a way to make sure?
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Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I've heard some rumors that NAND has some issues so I wasn't sure.
Is NAND the ROM?
Since I will most likely do a NAND flash, this would be the best guide right? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948)
Also, the phone is currently SIM-Locked;I wont be getting the unlock code from the buyer for another day, would I still be able to flash the phone and THEN input the unlock code after without screwing up anything?
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Actually, I would recommend this guide. The guide you posted doesn't involve CWM and is thus pretty much useless for modern ROMs.
And the Radio version should be in phone software info (if I remember correctly) under settings.
I think it doesn't matter as far as your sd card is fast enough! I am buying new Tmous HD2 since i don't have to make sd ext for sense Roms and they took 1.5 hours to install on my wwe HD2! Big advantage of sd build comes when you dual boot.
Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm a bit caught up with work so I wont try flashing it till this weekend, thanks again.
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Thanks! The seller mentioned he flashed the latest radio, is there a way to make sure?
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Go under Settings then About Phone and you should see a line called Baseband Version and should tell you after the underscore what radio you are using. Mine shows 2.15.50.14 which is the latest for a T-Mobile US phone.
I'm trying to find difference to the most popular HD2 windows Phone ROM's, but i can't seem to find much differences. Can someone try to explain it ?
I have tried the following ROM's:
[ROM] Back to the Future [XBmod-Yuki][Updatable]Build 8107 Ready
[ROM][21LANGS] 05.01.12 HD2O© v1.26 WP7 8107 FULLY UNLOCKED [online]
[ROM] DFT UltraFruit
06.FEB HD2 Pdaimatejam Rom Wp7.5 mango 7.10.8107.79 v7.3 >FULLY UNLOCKED>CABS Update>
Edit: Forgot Pdaimatejam
and you forgot best ROM Pdaimatejam ROM 8107 v7.3
differences in HD2 - Windows Phone ROM's
this is a really good question. It seems that differences between Windows Phone 7 ROMs are much smaller than between Windows Mobile 6.x Roms (where different ROMs could be completely different, concerning free memory, interface (like Titanium, Manila, SPB Mobile Shell), different builds from different branches (COM2, COM5, etc.). But there are other differences that may be important:
- Back to the Future has build 7004 after flashing, so you have to update to build 8107. Advantage: no need to reflash for future updates, can be updated with cabs or Zune, customizable
- HD20: has already the latest build 8107, uses AnDim's multitouch driver v0.1.3, locks SD card (so no WP7+Android dualboot)*, no cab updates (yet)
- Ultrafruit: brings many new features, i.e. doesn't lock SD card, no camera trick required, but many people have random reboots due to new touch screen driver. Updateble, starts with build 7740
- Pdaimatejam: my personal favorite. Updateable with cabs, latest multitouch driver from AnDim (v1.0.4), build 8107, doesn't lock SD card (ability to dualboot with Android from partitioned SD card)
*not entirely true, see post #10 and 11
Izz0HD2 WP7.5 Build 7.10.8107 Public Beta v3
But why have forgotten Izz0HD2 WP7.5 Build 7.10.8107 Public Beta v3?
It is Enough simple, but worker, than and makes (imponiruet).
That possible compare.
There's little difference, backed up by the fact the main developers are now working together, everything based on ultrafruit has issues with battery and Bt, audio has been corrected in some of them, xbmod v2.1 is solid but lacks some important updates in ultra fruit, my advice is to wait for ultrafruit 2
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
When people say that a ROM doesn't "lock" the SD card does this mean that I won't have issues using the SD card in Android if I got rid of WP7? Last time I tried WP7 (Back to the Future ROM - first Mango release of it I think) I hadn't read about the SD card issues and I actually never managed to recover my SD card from it - I tried all sorts of programs and operating systems on both my PC and my phone but I never fixed it and had to buy a new one.
Now I've got a Lexar class 10 16GB card I really don't want to break it. :/
Pdaimatejam Rom Wp7.5 mango 7.10.8107.79 v7.3 .. nice at this time .
more good roms gonna come in future
but can somebody tell me how is the battery under wp7? wich ROM is the most friendly with the bat? wich one lasts longer?thank you very much!
There is no correct answer to that... Depends on the radio, even location where you are...
For me best was ultrafruit... BUT! I got with it random reboots...But only on 2G. Some viliages, subway... Places where is no 3G. But the battery performance was awensome... 4days in standby. And I was using the phone... Not often but using.
The BTTF 2.1 if I changed radio to 5.51(without T) than its mutch better... Still need for the camera trick, but stable rom. With almoust no issues... I haven't tested the Pdaimatejam so there is no compare to that.
Wainting for XBMods v3 or Ultrafruit 2...
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this is a really good question. It seems that differences between Windows Phone 7 ROMs are much smaller than between Windows Mobile 6.x Roms (where different ROMs could be completely different, concerning free memory, interface (like Titanium, Manila, SPB Mobile Shell), different builds from different branches (COM2, COM5, etc.). But there are other differences that may be important:
- Back to the Future has build 7004 after flashing, so you have to update to build 8107. Advantage: no need to reflash for future updates, can be updated with cabs or Zune, customizable
- HD20: has already the latest build 8107, uses AnDim's multitouch driver v0.1.3, locks SD card (so no WP7+Android dualboot), no cab updates (yet)
- Ultrafruit: brings many new features, i.e. doesn't lock SD card, no camera trick required, but many people have random reboots due to new touch screen driver. Updateble, starts with build 7740
- Pdaimatejam: my personal favorite. Updateable with cabs, latest multitouch driver from AnDim (v1.0.4), build 8107, doesn't lock SD card (ability to dualboot with Android from partitioned SD card)
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Actually HD2O rom can dual boot with android just u need to manually partition the sd card by ur self~
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Actually HD2O rom can dual boot with android just u need to manually partition the sd card by ur self~
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What is said above is right. I myself have done it
dualboot with HD2O
Actually HD2O rom can dual boot with android just u need to manually partition the sd card by ur self~
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What is said above is right. I myself have done it
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Alright, so dualboot is possible with locked sd card if you first partition it and then flash HD2O's WP7. I didn't think about that. But If so, why does it matter at all, if a ROM locks the sd card or not? It should always be possible to unlock it with SDFormatter. At least I always had success with it and others too (here's a video tutorial).
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...It should always be possible to unlock it with SDFormatter. At least I always had success with it and others too (here's a video tutorial).
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No SDFormatter doesn't work on a fully locked SDCard. Windows simply will not recognize at all, so SDFormatter does not see it. Some seem to have even had them locked and not recovered, but I've unlocked a couple using a Nokia - just for the heck of it.
Reading the many posts on the forum, this seems to have improved dramatically recently. Most roms seem to have a work around now, some easier that others.
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[Q] What's the diffrences in HD2 - Windows Phone ROM's
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To me a usable camera without strange hues is important - this has been addressed by DFT UltraFruit and HD2 Pdaimatejam, and maybe some other recent roms.
Also Battery life is important to me - seems to depend on which radios are used - but this can be changed anyway before install - see the threads.
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No SDFormatter doesn't work on a fully locked SDCard. Windows simply will not recognize at all, so SDFormatter does not see it. Some seem to have even had them locked and not recovered, but I've unlocked a couple using a Nokia - just for the heck of it.
Reading the many posts on the forum, this seems to have improved dramatically recently. Most roms seem to have a work around now, some easier that others.
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To me a usable camera without strange hues is important - this has been addressed by DFT UltraFruit and HD2 Pdaimatejam, and maybe some other recent roms.
Also Battery life is important to me - seems to depend on which radios are used - but this can be changed anyway before install - see the threads.
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Hi,
I'm sorry for the off topic, but, May I recover a locked microSD card putting it again in the HD2 and installing a new ROM of any WP7 version ? I losted a 16 GB class 4 card ...
cadorna said:
Hi,
I'm sorry for the off topic, but, May I recover a locked microSD card putting it again in the HD2 and installing a new ROM of any WP7 version ? I losted a 16 GB class 4 card ...
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Can. See here and here.
Found this thread very interesting as I am new to all this. I have been trying to download the Xbmod-yuki rom for ages but all the links point to sites that don't seem to work anymore! Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Olly
OliverL66 said:
Found this thread very interesting as I am new to all this. I have been trying to download the Xbmod-yuki rom for ages but all the links point to sites that don't seem to work anymore! Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Olly
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Try to load ROM thence.
Thanks, now I can start trying these ROM's out.