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Well, according to these very forums, the US T-mobile G2 has a hardware root block - a chip which flashes the phone back to the original ROM every time it detects a custom one
Do you think HTC will place this same hardware root block on the UK Desire Z and more importantly, our precious Desire HD? Personally, I'd like to believe that HTC did this under pressure from T-Mobile US, but I don't know...
Yes the desire HD will have the same protection as the G2. athough that sounds bad its not as bad as you would think.
1) there will be loads of devs working on the same problem (G2, DesireZ, DesireHD) so the quicker the full root will come
2) we can still "temporeraly" write to system unlike the Evo/Desire/ect. before root
Presumeing that the DesireHD is also vunrable to the rageagainstthecage exploit like the G2. Im pritty shure that it will be as G2 is and the ROM will be built at a similer time if :-D
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Yes the desire HD will have the same protection as the G2. athough that sounds bad its not as bad as you would think.
1) there will be loads of devs working on the same problem (G2, DesireZ, DesireHD) so the quicker the full root will come
2) we can still "temporeraly" write to system unlike the Evo/Desire/ect. before root
Presumeing that the DesireHD is also vunrable to the rageagainstthecage exploit like the G2. Im pritty shure that it will be as G2 is and the ROM will be built at a similer time if :-D
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The G2 is running Vanilla 2.2 though, so it may be somewhat different... Lets hope the Desire HD can be rooted ASAP, Im sure Paul OB has a few tricks up his sleeve He has an answer for everything you know))
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yeah i just read about this on Engadget. This could potentially be a major problem for us future DHD owners.
Nobody has confirmed yet that there is some sort of hardware block. To me it sounds more like a kernel customization. Anyways, give the G2 hackers a couple of days to figure it out. I wouldn't be surprised if non-US phones (where there is actually competition) will not see this crap.
Thanks for your opinions guys! I guess the key is patience, it seems successful steps have already been taking in unlocking the device. With the combined effort of all of the HTC droid hackers, it shouldn't take very long at all
If they cant disable it, maybe they can make the phone reinstall a rooted version of the stock.. They have temporary root now, hopefully they manage to locate the hidden nand.. If they managed to get write permission to the part where the stock image/rom is, hopefully they will manage to make it restore a rooted version of it. If they manage to disable it, it would be easier for us to flash using rom manager etc but if they cant, we will just have to perhaps rely on restoring method. Its like a nandroid restore mechanism.
Just wishful thinking here, i do not know what they are doing now but hopefully it will work either hard or easy. Things go hard at first and hopefully will be more fluid as time pass by. Pray.. pray.. pray.. Go modders/devs!
I can tell you all now HTC will have HW R/W protection on there probably controled by the bootloader. They did it on the Desire/Wildfire/Evo they are not going to take a step back with this phone. 99% of the stuff ppl here about the G2 protection is wrong. i.e its not a rootkit :-s what happens.
Bootloader sets eMMC to R/O --> boots os --> any changes get bufferd --> on reboot bootloader restores removing changes
Thats what happens no one realy knows how the restores happen yet.
Root will come probably for all 3 devices at once.
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Personally, I can live without custom ROM, though I would prefer to have it. I currently own a Hero with MCR5, and love it.
But what is REALLY important is root access to access Market and download the many programs I have already purchased.
Here in Denmark, we only have the locked "free apps only" market. I need my CoPilot and much other stuff!
If I have root, and can run my "root required" apps, then I am happy.
kingkeld said:
Personally, I can live without custom ROM, though I would prefer to have it. I currently own a Hero with MCR5, and love it.
But what is REALLY important is root access to access Market and download the many programs I have already purchased.
Here in Denmark, we only have the locked "free apps only" market. I need my CoPilot and much other stuff!
If I have root, and can run my "root required" apps, then I am happy.
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Have you been inside a cave this last few days?!? If it's all about the market, google is going to open up to almost 30 new countries....
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-countries-more-sellers-more-buyers.html
Oh, but you tell me, that the X app or the Y app still is not going to be on my country's market...
But that's not google fault, now it up with the software devs to select what country market they want to be
onesolo said:
Have you been inside a cave this last few days?!? If it's all about the market, google is going to open up to almost 30 new countries....
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-countries-more-sellers-more-buyers.html
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Still, not all countries are on that list (like mine for example).
So having access to paid apps is still a pretty good reason to have root.
So, i need a help from you guys with this. I never had Android and have one question.
Ok, i understood that if i want coocked ROM i need to root it, BUT if I want instal crack games and programs and all availible apps from the net, do I still need this root?
Without root i can instal only free games and buy the one with price and thats all??
Thanks
Hang on, are you asking for advice on pirating? O_O
OMG!
Smartmob said:
So, i need a help from you guys with this. I never had Android and have one question.
Ok, i understood that if i want coocked ROM i need to root it, BUT if I want instal crack games and programs and all availible apps from the net, do I still need this root?
Without root i can instal only free games and buy the one with price and thats all??
Thanks
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This is wrong!
wywywywy said:
Hang on, are you asking for advice on pirating? O_O
OMG!
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Bingo!
xD ok ok, no pirating...just the part with root
onesolo said:
Have you been inside a cave this last few days?!? If it's all about the market, google is going to open up to almost 30 new countries....
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-countries-more-sellers-more-buyers.html
Oh, but you tell me, that the X app or the Y app still is not going to be on my country's market...
But that's not google fault, now it up with the software devs to select what country market they want to be
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...And this is where MarketEnabler is great. I buy stuff from all over the place. Some I can maybe live without, but some I would hate to miss out on.
And I still need Root for Titanium Backup.
RollingStar said:
Well, according to these very forums, the US T-mobile G2 has a hardware root block - a chip which flashes the phone back to the original ROM every time it detects a custom one
Do you think HTC will place this same hardware root block on the UK Desire Z and more importantly, our precious Desire HD? Personally, I'd like to believe that HTC did this under pressure from T-Mobile US, but I don't know...
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Can somebody explain.. Is this feature "HW root block" will be affect every DHD or only SIM-locked (operator's) phones?
I'm using Galaxy S and it is not difficult to guess that I have pre-ordered DHD on Clove. My Galaxy's using experience tell me to be bad without having root access. So I have been a bit confused when saw this topic.
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The DHD will have the same R/W (root) protection in place as the G2 (vision). I know this as its based on the same chipset and will contain the same eMMC.
HTC always do this on every "generation" of phone i.e desire/evo/ect. Generation had the same NAND lockout as eachother.
So every single shipping DHD will have the G2 style protection
Can a mod pls close this topic its pointless and missleading
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Apache you gave me a reason to wait details about this are 100% defined and I add..unlocked..before buying. Can't live with a locked Htc with no custom roms.
One question, can you point me where I can follow the development of this?
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Can a mod pls close this topic its pointless and missleading
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How so? I'm asking a valid question, T-Mobile US may have pushed HTC into doing this, just like they did to remove Wifi tethering to the G2's supposedly 'Vanilla' version of Android... Do you work for HTC? All we can do is predict trends, nobody knows for sure if the DHD will share the US G2's exact chipset.
Iv been a nokia user all my life, love trying new things with my device.
Now finally Iv decided to shift, I am getting a HTC Desire Z this week for approx $500.
Is it worth that much?
If i do need a qwerty keypad, is there any other phone better than this one in the market?
Also im totally new to rooting and roms stuff,
How much of a difference is it to root the device?(the HTC sense UI is already pretty awesome and customizable from the reviews iv seen)
Is it worth the risk?
idk if they have craigslist wherever you're from, but i can find one right now for around $250
The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
navkaranchadha said:
The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
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The best guide for both is the Gfree root, s-off and super CID thread in the development forum.
The most up-to-date guide for rooting, which covers all Vision phones (both G2 and Desire Z) is in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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You can possibly lose warranty,.... only if something goes horribly wrong and you cant unroot again, but in usual cases, yes you can unroot for warranty purposes.
You can still use full SenseUI,... But you dont have to if you dont want,... thats the beauty.
navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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I dont have a desire z, so I cant answer with 100% certainty. But I have a rooted G2 with a Desire Z Sense rom on it and htcsense.com seemed to work, but I turned it off as I hated it.
navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
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I highly doubt that htcsense.com can tell if you are rooted or not. You certainly don't lose HTC Locations or any of the other stuff, it all works fine still. Don't worry.
htcsense.com is actually very flaky at the moment, and HTC admit they are still working on it. So it doesn't work very well anyway for a lot of people, rooted or not.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
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No, you don't lose any data on rooting. Unless the rooting goes so badly wrong (extremely unlikely if you use the method in the Wiki) and have to flash a ROM again to recover.
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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hboot is the bootloader on your phone. You can "see" it if you have the phone powered off (not just asleep, you need to turn off the "fast boot" feature in Menu->Settings->Applications or pull the battery), then hold Volume Down then press Power till it turns on. There is an "eng" (engineering) version of hboot that gives you a few more flashing/recovery functions, but that's not essential to start with, ignore that for now.
gfree is a utility that can be used in rooting and primarily for achieving a full S-OFF on your phone, plus SIM unlock and "superCID" - see more details at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF
I am a new to android. Was a long time Iphone user and I wanted to know how to root DHD and what are the major benefits of rooting the DHD
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I want now to.
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rooting is very easy, i rooted mine a couple of days ago and flashed a custom ROM today
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/15/universal-android-rooting-method-visionary-method/
There are plenty of guides in the development section. I only rooted mine last week, after having been completely new to the android system.
To give you any advice, it would be to read around what you have to do before you actually do it. For a first time user, it could sound complicated, but it really isnt.
Also, I would go for LeeDroids custom Rom and kernel, they run immaculately.
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The benefits of rooting your phone is a much faster phone and improved battery life, and much more other stuffs
the main benefit is the possibility to run apps that need special privileges... you should do when you want to run those apps. rooting by rooting is pointless...
I rooted my phone a month ago cause i wanted to change the pixel density and now i flash a new rom every day... it's a addiction.. =o)
Can you pls explain what you mean by changing pixel density
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Teach the boy to crawl first
Rather than start a new thread I hope you don't mind me asking in here!
I want to root my DHD, however I need to downgrade my phone to 2.2 from 2.2.1. Is it possible to do it on a Mac?
Any help would be great!
@eiKr, there is a whole thread about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
i really don't know, since i don't use a mac...
@niks_5in, type "LCD density" on the market and you will know what i meant! =oP need to say, i don't see any bad side effect in rooting, but since you came from iphone, you should read a lot on dev section before make any kind of change in your device...
I was on the same boat as you...
Today I decided to root it and what a difference!
Should be possible on a mac since there are osx versions of adb and fastboot available. Think there is already a pre extracted pd98img.zip available for download from the downgrade guide thread.
You don't need to run any windows exe for the downgrade.
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Someone Swyped my idea.
Most benefits has already been brought up, but one big benefit is to have full control over your device.
And I will soon flash the phone for the first time, just waiting for wid0w to set up a rom flashing tutorial (hopefully today).
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I rooted my phone a month ago cause i wanted to change the pixel density
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Is that like using a higher resolution display on the phone? Can you show us a comparison?
+1 to LeeDroid 2.0.0 although you're best to look through the many available to see which one might suit you best. They're all pretty stable.
PLEASE remember that this is your choice though, nothing to do with the developer of the ROM if it goes wrong. There's plenty of information about how to do it so you should be fine! I successfully got root, s-off, recovery, and have flashed loads of different ROM's with no problems.
Be warned though that as someone else above said, it gets ridiculously addictive, you'll be checking for updates all the time!
Benefits of it for me is that I have control over my device. I got mine in the UK through Orange and there was a load of "bloatware" on there which I would never use but couldn't uninstall. Rooting and a new ROM solved this plus when a stable gingerbread ROM comes out, I'll be at the front of the line for it rather than wait for my service carrier to provide the update!
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Is that like using a higher resolution display on the phone? Can you show us a comparison?
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Yeah you can change the DPI in the boot.prop. Ill get some screenshots of my Streak up when I get home.
Yeah, I rooted mine because of those preinstaled applications such as stocks, filckr or news which i never used and they still kept running in the background. You can also make your DHD even faster by OC (+30% of CPU performance - safely), make the speaker louder so you can finaly hear it. Most (if not all) of the ROMs available are also faster and smoother than the stock and they should improve your battery life. However it is not my case, cause since i flashed the new ROM (Core Droid - nice eyecandy and super smooth) i'm still playing with the phone and sometimes i have to recharge twice a day
Its thruth that you can brick your phone for good, but if you carefuly follow instructions on this forum and think twice, its 100% safe (or 99.9999% at least).
Just one advice that might prove useful and i haven't seen it here on the forum. After flashing a new ROM, do not erase the instalation .zip filefrom the SD. Can be useful if something goes wrong, especialy if you dont have a card reader
just search for "visionary"
its a one click root tool
Yea I used Visionary and it's was very easy
Recently sold my iphone 4, and decide that I might give an android phone a go since I am seeing some fantastic development in this community.
One of the most intriguing yet confusing subject is flashing custom rom, with so many different custom rom around, I was wondering how you guys decide which one to use, consider that there seems to be quite a few excellent ones around? Or its just simply a matter of preference like choosing a theme?
I also very keen to see a custom Gingerbread ROM on DHD, since I have read that 2.3 will never be release for this device most likely, can anyone give me any insight of upcoming a practical version of 2.3 base custom ROM?
Sorry abt asking some many question on my first post
Thanks
I can only give you my two cents regarding my your first question.
personally i've tried Android Revolution and LeeDroid
LeeDroid is fast but i didn't like the custom animation and bootloader(i still want a stock looking phone) so i opted to flask AndroidRevolution so far so good it's fast and has excelent battery life!
I see.
Can you give me an idea how the custom improves the battery life practically? may be some facts/statistics as well?
I notice leeDroid and revolution can overclock the phone CPU as well, is that safe?
BTW, I see this terminology "S-OFF" a lot, what is that?
Thanks for your quick reply
s-off stands for "security off". By default your phones rom memory is read only or "security on". Basically s-off will allow you to read/write to the rom memory and install custom roms etc. There are two types of s-off.
The first is radio s-off which will allow you full read/write access to the flash memory and skips the security check when flashing radios to allow you to downgrade as well as upgrade your radio. This type of s-off is also unable to be removed by flashing an official update. Because it cannot be removed except by deliberate action it is considered a must have. Having said that you cannot actually flash a radio without the second type of s-off.
The second type is engineering hboot s-off which replaces the bootloader itself (like the computers bios) with an enginering version. It is often referred to as simply eng hboot, eng s-off etc. This type of s-off does not allow downgrading of the radio and will be wiped out if you flash an official update to your phone. The advantage of this type of s-off is that you will be able to use fastboot commands from the bootloader. Ironically without fastboot you cannot flash radios so in the end it is reccomended to get both types of s-off.
Personally I use the Leedroid rom with his custom kernel 2.06 and its awesome. I don't have the transition animations. I have also heard good things about ARHD but havent used it since the early days.
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I see.
Can you give me an idea how the custom improves the battery life practically? may be some facts/statistics as well?
I notice leeDroid and revolution can overclock the phone CPU as well, is that safe?
BTW, I see this terminology "S-OFF" a lot, what is that?
Thanks for your quick reply
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S-off stands for security off, the htc bootloader comes with certain security measures, to make parts of the nand chip read only! By making the device s-off, you can write to these partitions, letting you flash custom roms, custom recoverys and modify the /system partition.
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You beat me to it mox lol
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Personally I would recommend using CyanogenMod ROM's the CM team put a huge amount of effort into stability so the roms tend to be very usable as a day to day ROM without the bling (and attendent cpu loads) of the fancy UI's ala Sense. Cm6.1.3 is the latest stable release whilst if you want to give gingerbread a whirl try cm7.
BTW although what you say about 2.3 is undoutably true do not worry as I am as sure as can be the dhd will see 2.4 and subsequent releases.
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You beat me to it mox lol
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Yes of course, i was using a keyboard =)
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I'm not happy to see you, that's a Desire HD in my pocket.
I'm making a guide which should be out tomorrow regarding flashing custom roms.
I, for one, opted for revolution and I love it. It's stockish, it's fast, it's way better, excellent battery life
I just rooted my DHD and would also like to know what rom to get. I would want it to be Gingerbread-like because I like changes. But Android Revolution HD seems so popular, fast etc it makes it really hard to choose. Is there a comparison of those two somewhere? Pros and cons? And which rom has the best performance in games for example?
j3yps said:
LeeDroid is fast but i didn't like the custom animation and bootloader(i still want a stock looking phone) so i opted to flask AndroidRevolution so far so good it's fast and has excelent battery life!
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you must to know that you can change the transitions and opening scene... =o)
to be honest, i stick with what most people flash... the rom is more tested, and even if you are a really unlucky guy and got problems with, it's more easy to get support, and find people with same issue.. =oP it's always nice to think about it when you are a noob, like me! =o)
in the case of leedroid and revolution, i tested both... decide between a bad and a good thing is easy, but decide between two great things is pretty hard, the decision is taken about trivial details. i won't say what i got cause it's pointless... you really should try both (and even more if you don't be satisfied neither! =oP
Sorry for throwing my question here, but I'm just a brand new Android user from tha Wii Modding community (...what?)
What are the disadvantages of rooting your phone? Can you still use the official updates and the market?
Thanks!
The no sense-Revolution HD rom seem to be Gingerbread like.
Let me know how much u getting out of ur battery after you installed the Revolution rom
As I care much about performance, do you happen to know the performance difference between the sense and no-sense ARHD?
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I have another question while I am at it. I was doing some digging around on this forum about sim unlocking DHD.
It seems that is it not possible unless buying the IME unlock code from the network or third party website.
Is that still true?
franklin20uk said:
I have another question while I am at it. I was doing some digging around on this forum about sim unlocking DHD.
It seems that is it not possible unless buying the IME unlock code from the network or third party website.
Is that still true?
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Nope, the one-click easy radio S-off tool will also unlock your phone. Handy tool that.
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Diffler said:
Sorry for throwing my question here, but I'm just a brand new Android user from tha Wii Modding community (...what?)
What are the disadvantages of rooting your phone? Can you still use the official updates and the market?
Thanks!
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The only disadvantage of rooting is that your warranty will be void -but that is easily reversed. You shouldn't flash the official OTA (over the air) updates either - as they will disable your root possibly for a long time, but don't worry , as soon as an official update is released: It will be in ROMS within hours.
Market is unaffected - you can find apps that require root on the market!
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If you decided to root you're phone, Look also @ the MIUI rom.
It brings the best features of IOS,Android and Samsung Bada together in a very stable fast Custom rom!
Ey up fellas. I was gonna start my own thread, but this seems to be just what I was after
Coming from a Dell Streak which is an amazing device, mostly due to the work of DJ Steve for his custom ROMS. But I can't deal with the constant resets and sticking touchscreen, which has nothing to do with the software, its happened since day one. So I've decided a Desire HD is on the cards
The missis has a DZ but I havent put any custom ROM's or s-off'd it, so I'm a newbie in the Desire family area! But I've messed around with the Streak a lot and countless other WinMo 6.5 phones so I should be ok.
One question: I'm getting the DHD second hand. Say the guy who had it before me has updated it OTA to the most recent offical ROM, would this mean that I can't S-Off it? Or is there always a way to get custom ROMs on it etc?
vinokirk said:
One question: I'm getting the DHD second hand. Say the guy who had it before me has updated it OTA to the most recent offical ROM, would this mean that I can't S-Off it? Or is there always a way to get custom ROMs on it etc?
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Thanks vinokirk for bringing this up, this is inevitably one of my upcoming question as well, thou I might be aftering a brand new DHD black edition exclusive to Orange in UK, cause thats just sexy! Regardless this will be one of my concern since the black DHD is a recent release.
Thanks
Anyone seen this? https://www.facebook.com/pages/MobileTechVideos/182579981788132?fref=ts
You guys know if they are credible or not?
I have a HTC DNA, and there are several good reports of MobileTechVideos doing s-off on the DNA in the DNA forums.
(The latest updates from HTC/Verizon removed the rooting/s-off exploits, so this currently is the only way to get s-off on a DNA that has been updated).
Here's one report:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40714371&postcount=26
I saw some posts in a few other threads about them so I checked out their web site. It seems like they've been around for a while and more or less specialize in unbricking phones. Yesterday their Facebook page said they'd achieved S-OFF and applied SuperCID and then an hour or so later they said they'd managed it "without the wire". That was almost 24 hours ago, now. I'm waiting for more news.
yea they're credible. they fixed my bricked s2 been following them for 2 years
They are legit. Sent a couple of my phones to them over the years for hardware related repairs and they always fixed the issue. They were prompt, friendly, and well organized. Would not hesitate to use them again in the future.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
So now the question is, how?
ross_ctr said:
So now the question is, how?
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My bet is they won't tell us how. They are a business so if anything you'll probably have to pay them and send your device in for them to do it for you. However, since it's been done I'm sure someone will be able to figure it out soon
ross_ctr said:
So now the question is, how?
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I got the impression is was via some sort of JTAG modification, but there really is no solid information at this point.
I haven't seen them say it was via JTAG, however they did say it wasn't via "the wire trick".... whatever that is. This is my first HTC so not clued up completely yet
ross_ctr said:
I haven't seen them say it was via JTAG, however they did say it wasn't via "the wire trick".... whatever that is. This is my first HTC so not clued up completely yet
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On many of the recent HTC phones, one has to take an insulated wire and short two contacts together at a specific interval in order to S-OFF. Those phones had removable battery covers, so getting at the electronic contacts was fairly simple. Hence the name "wire trick"
They've charged for S-Off in the past. There's nothing solid to think that they won't keep the details to themselves and make you pay for it this time as well.
im guessing its not going to be released
I'd be fine with paying for it.
Simba501 said:
I'd be fine with paying for it.
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I suppose if one had to return the phone to HTC you could relock and flash an RRU, to get rid of the TAMPERED and RELOCKED indicators. That is the advantage of S-Off, so far as I'm concerned.
What is the great advantage in your opinion? Oh yeah, it can flash a bootup animation with S-off.
stevedebi said:
I suppose if one had to return the phone to HTC you could relock and flash an RRU, to get rid of the TAMPERED and RELOCKED indicators. That is the advantage of S-Off, so far as I'm concerned.
What is the great advantage in your opinion? Oh yeah, it can flash a bootup animation with S-off.
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Makes modding easier. I'm not quite familiar with the One yet (get it Friday), but on the One X (on some bootloaders), you couldn't flash kernels in recovery. Two things allowed you to do this: S-off and downgrading hboot. Downgrading was a pain. You also need S-off for changing the splash screen to a custom one.