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Can HTC put out an update for the Battery Life?

Just curious if enough people complain, can anything be done to improve it?
I know there are tweaks but i prefer one from htc directly.

If anything, the updates for battery life will come from Froyo.
What HTC DOES need to fix though, is the touch sensor lag on the phone. It's impossible to play ping pong on my Evo.

gotcha...yeah i was playing with a friends iphone, and before today, i didn't notice the lag on the screen until i web browsed with the iphone.

Take action into your own hands and fix it yourself. Removing most of the bloatware and social networking crap increases battery life substantially.
Personally i don't care if I miss my buddies face book status update or if Angie replied to my comment about her tits on twitter. Some can't live without that though.

Aridon said:
Take action into your own hands and fix it yourself. Removing most of the bloatware and social networking crap increases battery life substantially.
Personally i don't care if I miss my buddies face book status update or if Angie replied to my comment about her tits on twitter. Some can't live without that though.
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Damn, even i wanna know about angie's tits if she posted it on facebook. LOL jp.

I have to say that I find the battery life fairly decent...and I am running most of the widgets and have gmail set to push... I took it off of the charger this morning ~7:30, and it died at 9:30 this evening. Thats with about 30 minutes of Pandora streaming over 3G, downloading several apps, watching a couple of YouTube videos, a phone call, some texting...basically normal use. I think that 14 hours of battery life on a phone like this with that type of use is pretty good... Its not a circa 2001 flip phone with a monochrome lcd display that can last for a week or more...but it is heck of a lot more device. just MHO

God I remember those good old days, charging your phone once every two weeks. Car chargers were unheard of.

Tilton53 said:
God I remember those good old days, charging your phone once every two weeks. Car chargers were unheard of.
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yep! nice from one perspective, not so much from another! Oh yeah, and I just got the phone on Monday, so that was really only the 2nd full charge cycle. Charging it with the phone off all night tonight, we'll see how long it lasts in the coming days/weeks...I bet it does better! Anyway, I feel pretty comfortable that as long as I anticipate how long I need to go between charges, I can tailor my usage to that...so if i need it to last 20 hours, I will not use Pandora, watch YouTube, or download stuff... Not that hard!

Battery life is great here? Used it fairly heavily today:
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Battery life is great here? Used it fairly heavily today:
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What are you doing to get Android System battery usage down so low? I turned off the Sense home screen and installed ADW. That helped a little. And I'm only using like 4 widgets and some shortcuts. It's still at like 40-50%.

The longer you use the phone the lower Android system goes...not doing anything special everything pretty much stock as the phone came. One thing that does cause huge battery drain that I ran into was setting up the Flikr account but removing it put the battery use back to normal.

i get the exact same battery life with my evo as i did with my hero, using the same battery though. wonder if that makes a difference...

[Q] Battery Life after recent software update

Has anyone noticed any significant decrease in battery life after applying the recent update issued by Verizon a couple of days ago? My Fascinates battery life was actually impressing me tremendously before the update, and it seems to have taken quite a big hit since the update. Just wondering if my case is isolated, or if others are seeing the same thing.

How many hours are you getting? My battery life always lasted around 13-15 hours even before the update which is still pretty short imo. I wonder if I have a defective battery. I turn everything off and brightness to the lowest but it's always around 13/14 hours when my phone dies completely.

My battery life has definitely takin a hit...

Whitepaint said:
My battery life has definitely takin a hit...
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There's an UNCONFIRMED rumor floating around over on Android Central that Verizon and Samsung have pulled the update due to problems. Again, this is unconfirmed, and just a rumor, and makes NO mention to the reasons why. Perhaps the battery life is a more wide spread issue.

hartford said:
There's an UNCONFIRMED rumor floating around over on Android Central that Verizon and Samsung have pulled the update due to problems. Again, this is unconfirmed, and just a rumor, and makes NO mention to the reasons why. Perhaps the battery life is a more wide spread issue.
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Well, isnt that special.
Took me forever to apply it manually and now it might be borked, great

I didn't really have a problem with the battery life after this update, but I did notice a signifigant loss of speed when going to websites or watching Youtube.

I installed the update by reverting to stock and updating, and then re-rooted and re-applied the lag fix, and of course re-removed bloatware. I can report that I have noticed no difference at all on data transfer performance, and also no battery life issues. In fact, when I got home from work today, I looked at my battery gauge, and it was still at 87%. That's after almost 12 hours of mostly standby time, with gmail, corporate email, and weather services updating regularly. That's actually the best battery life I've seen out of this thing yet. If your battery is draining faster than that, then you must have some kind of process or background service that's not letting the CPU sleep, which will drain your battery fairly quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if the culprit is one of the bloatware apps that I disabled.
On a side note, I still seem to have an issue where the data connection intermittently cuts out. I don't lose the 3G icon, and have plenty of signal, but it's like the connection just times out, and a few seconds later resumes again. I was hoping the radio update in DI01 would address this, but no dice. I'm actually suspicious that it's an issue in the OS itself, as I've seen similar behavior over WiFi, which is a completely separate radio and network interface. I hope it's just a software bug, not a hardware defect. If it persists after the Froyo upgrade, I plan on doing a warranty claim.

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I installed the update by reverting to stock and updating, and then re-rooted and re-applied the lag fix, and of course re-removed bloatware. I can report that I have noticed no difference at all on data transfer performance, and also no battery life issues. In fact, when I got home from work today, I looked at my battery gauge, and it was still at 87%. That's after almost 12 hours of mostly standby time, with gmail, corporate email, and weather services updating regularly. That's actually the best battery life I've seen out of this thing yet. If your battery is draining faster than that, then you must have some kind of process or background service that's not letting the CPU sleep, which will drain your battery fairly quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if the culprit is one of the bloatware apps that I disabled.
On a side note, I still seem to have an issue where the data connection intermittently cuts out. I don't lose the 3G icon, and have plenty of signal, but it's like the connection just times out, and a few seconds later resumes again. I was hoping the radio update in DI01 would address this, but no dice. I'm actually suspicious that it's an issue in the OS itself, as I've seen similar behavior over WiFi, which is a completely separate radio and network interface. I hope it's just a software bug, not a hardware defect. If it persists after the Froyo upgrade, I plan on doing a warranty claim.
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How did you get yours rooted? I have the I01 installed but cant get it rooted again now....

oryank99 said:
How did you get yours rooted? I have the I01 installed but cant get it rooted again now....
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You should be able to redo the original root procedure as documented here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238
Note that some have reported that they had to do the root procedure twice after installing DI01 to get root access back, though it worked the first time for me.
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Yeah I have done it probably 7 times to no avail.... :/
It freezes my phone i believe after it sents the second restart command. it comes up with device not found, even after it says it was successful....
I also tried the original version of this program (i believe), but it is the one I used to root it the first time.

I bought the phone on the 25th and got the update within minutes of leaving the store. I got great battery life the first day but it's been more standard fair so far getting 13-14 hours with moderate usage.

I unplugged my phone about 12 hours ago. I have used it all day for email, text and phone calls and I am right now at 64%. I am getting great battery life with this phone, loads better than my droid 1 and 2.

Reinstall the Samsung drivers. I had to do that and then root was achieved again. I'm an employee of Vzw and haven't heard any rumors of the update being borked. I'll keep y'all posted!
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3 days, 3 Hours, 24 mins of Battery life on my Epic

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I hope this is actually true for me as well. I will upgrade once its fully stable.

uhhhh bull****. I have a siedo 3300 on acs with stuff undervolted and setcpu set from 200-1000 and theres no way in hell im getting anywhere near half that.

Just after I got my 2.2.1 setup exactly how I wanted.

sceptor said:
uhhhh bull****. I have a siedo 3300 on acs with stuff undervolted and setcpu set from 200-1000 and theres no way in hell im getting anywhere near half that.
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Its not like its even hard to do:
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That is with the 12 dollar 3500mah battery with the EXACT same rom and settings as you.

Why do I struggle to keep my charge for a day? Help?
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This makes me sad that I switch batteries each day.

muyoso said:
Its not like its even hard to do:
That is with the 12 dollar 3500mah battery with the EXACT same rom and settings as you.
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Well sir you should sell your phone as magic beans because that is just a joke.
Theres no way i could get through 2 days with the seidi 3300 and wifi on the ENTIRE time and moderate usage. Just isnt happening so maybe you have some kind of config I dont know about but im thoroughly interested in copying your EXACT settings
This phone is useless to me if it isnt connected to the internet though for gtalk etc so if your data lasts that long because it just isnt connected to the internet at all that isnt any good to me

I tried the EE03 ROM for about 2 days and I went back to my EC05 SRF 1.1.1 because I'm running my 2800mAh Yoobao which I can average 2 days on using the full 100mhz - 1400mhz range of the Genocide Kernel....with EC05....the two days I ran EE03 I couldn't make it 15 hours...smh I don't know if I'm missing something but can I get a pointer to get the full capacity I know my extended battery can give me running EE03?
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sceptor said:
Well sir you should sell your phone as magic beans because that is just a joke.
Theres no way i could get through 2 days with the seidi 3300 and wifi on the ENTIRE time and moderate usage. Just isnt happening so maybe you have some kind of config I dont know about but im thoroughly interested in copying your EXACT settings
This phone is useless to me if it isnt connected to the internet though for gtalk etc so if your data lasts that long because it just isnt connected to the internet at all that isnt any good to me
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Data was on the entire time. Its really not that hard to do. Freeze DRM apks. Stop unneeded junk from starting up and launching upon connectivity changes and the like through autostarts. If you REALLY wanted to save data, turn data off at night while you are sleeping by long holding the power button and selecting turn data off. Stop syncing with facebook every 15 minutes. I don't sync or use facebook at all, maybe that is the magic bean. Don't have 30 widgets constantly running. Don't overclock. Brightness set low. Very simple things.
Edit: Also, properly calibrate your phone and battery. Turn off auto rotation and haptic feedback and things like that.

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What was your screen on time?

Have haptic off and drm killed. I will check facebook. What startup killer do you use
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I think it's crazy the differences of all "smart phone" battery life.
How can some people get 4 hours and others get days? I went through this with my EVO before exchanging it for my epic. Others have problems with their epic and none with the evo?
The hardware should all be the same so is it all androids fault?
They really need to fix this issue.

Which app was used to produce the graph in the first post? I don't think I've seen that one before.

bhess said:
I think it's crazy the differences of all "smart phone" battery life.
How can some people get 4 hours and others get days? I went through this with my EVO before exchanging it for my epic. Others have problems with their epic and none with the evo?
The hardware should all be the same so is it all androids fault?
They really need to fix this issue.
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There are a few reasons.
1) Some users just REALLY use the hell out of their phone. They have 4g enabled and are constantly taking calls or streaming music or browsing the internet or gaming on it.
2) Some users have no idea what they are doing. They enable 30 widgets that are constantly updating and pulling data. They have facebook and twitter syncing every 15 minutes. They have the brightness set from medium to high. There is nothing you can do to make a setup like this save battery life.
3) Some users KNOW what they are doing. They limit their widgets to necessary ones. They set the brightness to autobrightness or low. They lengthen the time between syncs for social media. They freeze the DRM files. They use something like autostarts to limit startup programs.
That is why battery life is all over the place. Also, people have completely different definitions of what "heavy use" or "light use" is. Add on top of all of this, that people are using different roms and kernels. Add on top of all of THAT, that some people undervolt their phones.

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Which app was used to produce the graph in the first post? I don't think I've seen that one before.
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That is the stock gingerbread meter.
Gingerbread is awesome like that. If you go to Settings>About Phone>Battery Use and then tap on the small graph up on top, it expands to create that full screen graph.

I have noticed a huge battery increase too. I have not changed any settings on my phone to try and improve it. I got use to my 12 - 16 hours of use moderately. The only difference I made was not installing Advanced Task Killer and relying only on the stock Task Manager. I got 1d 8h of battery life on OEM battery. I will post screen shot when I get to my computer.

increased battery drain with no reason

I know this has posted a million times.
Without a warning my stock KH1 with CF-root started to have bad battery. According to battery usage it's the android system. Around 40 - 60% sometimes.
I usually had it around 10 - 20%
Also the better battery stats says its caused by "suspend" and "events/0"
Now I've have read this bug over and over by tons of people but I never had it. Always stayed on stock with cf-Root. Didn't have a problem and BAM! there it was
As soon I noticed this I flashed stock back, first to KH1 and then KG6. No difference. And no I didn't just wait half a day to see if it worked with each other firmware or ROM I gave it at least 3 days or at least 3 battery charges.
And so it went on. Stock KH1 with CF-ROOT -> KH1 -> KG6 -> Cognition S2 1.51 -> Exynos 5.4. No difference.
Again I'm sorry of bringing this up. I wouldn't post this thread if I had this from the beginning. I just find it weird that it just appeared.
Maybe it's from my apps but wouldn't the battery usage say anything?
Just saying as well that my phone sleeps when my screen if off and goes awake when I turn it on. No odd awakes while my screen is off.
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This is the Android OS bug. I doubt it will get fixed before Ice Cream Sandwich, and even then, it's not sure. Welcome to the club of ****ty battery.

lol, battery is not so bad, anyway, which is the most actual firmware file version??

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Did you refresh BatterBatteryStats? Sometimes it doesn't update. If it's updated, then it's not nearly that bad. For me I've noticed that 1m of CPU time is about 1% of battery lost. So for you in that screen it's about 12% lost due to the suspend and events/0 activities. And if battery is at 34% (can't see correctly, too small), then you don't have it nearly as bad as some others.
Here's what I get sometimes when it escalates: (20h lifetime, complete idle)

@OP- You are on the same group with me. I always stay on CF root with Stock ROM and I also never had that AOS bug until last week it suddenly appeared! I posted about it on the BBS thread but got no response usually. The thing is you can't stop it, once it there you just have to live with it. And gradually it will disappear again. Just wait till then.
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I've never believed in the AOS battery drain bug until I got it myself. And indeed like the others have said, there is no permanent way to fix it.
the best you can do is to try flashing different ROMs or kernels and see which one gives you the best battery life, with or without the drain bug. For starters, you might want to check out the Speedmod kernel
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Double post, sorry.

cr0wnest said:
I've never believed in the AOS battery drain bug until I got it myself. And indeed like the others have said, there is no permanent way to fix it.
the best you can do is to try flashing different ROMs or kernels and see which one gives you the best battery life, with or without the drain bug. For starters, you might want to check out the Speedmod kernel
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No, there are ways to fix the bug at times, just depends on what causes it. Day one when I received my phone, I had the android os bug. Used to be up in the high 50%+ for Android OS, but then I found out my router caused the issue and now it's always below 10%. I'm also on stock btw, no root or anything.

Battery Life Issue (Is this normal battery life)

I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
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philc21 said:
I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
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as of yesterday, I'm seeing the same problem. Didn't have short battery life before that but several apps updated yesterday morning and now I have something like 50% on Android System and an unusually high "Stay Awake" - we're talking something like 10 hours when I wasn't using the phone for anything in particular - certainly not 10 hours worth!
So, I'm wondering how we tell what is keeping a phone awake?

usually we need more info such as what rom your using and when it started to happen..
second post might be one of the apps thats causing it so id backtrack them n see if u can find the culprit
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also, better battery stats on xda is your friend.. android system can be a ton of different things
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I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.

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I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.
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This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
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Yes, you will lose HD Voice / VOLTE unfortunately. That was a sacrifice I had to take I couldn't deal with my phone being dead by 5:00pm.

agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.

CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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it is what it is.. there are ni2 roms with great battery.. few have reported battery drains but not me.. ive tried a few ni2 roms and not had a battery drain since before ni2
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CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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Wake lock detector and greenify are your friends...

My about phone.

so, after posting the second post in this thread I'm happy to post that my battery consumption returned to normal by the next day. I don't know what was going on but I'm still on NI2 and regular battery consumption - what I've been used to seeing on the phone all along.
that said, it's great to know about some of the apps that are available for better tracking/info about wake-locks and battery use.