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A solution for our Development section ?

So, our development section gets littered with QUESTIONS. This is not where they go. It adds clutter. Just had a thought and was curious if
(a) would it would work and/or be possible
(b) what others thought of it.
Can the mods make it where you are not able to CREATE a thread in the development section unless the OP has an attachment?
EVERY thread in the development section that belongs there has an attachment/download.
EVERY thread that does NOT belong there does NOT have an attachment.
This is something I just thought of and I only glanced over the first page or so but it does appear to be a valid screening process.
Can this type of rule be in place?
I don't like that the developers and their section is littered with requests/noob questions.

s15274n said:
So, our development section gets littered with QUESTIONS. This is not where they go. It adds clutter. Just had a thought and was curious if
(a) would it would work and/or be possible
(b) what others thought of it.
Can the mods make it where you are not able to CREATE a thread in the development section unless the OP has an attachment?
EVERY thread in the development section that belongs there has an attachment/download.
EVERY thread that does NOT belong there does NOT have an attachment.
This is something I just thought of and I only glanced over the first page or so but it does appear to be a valid screening process.
Can this type of rule be in place?
I don't like that the developers and their section is littered with requests/noob questions.
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I'll AMEN to that.....Admins and Mods are like gods on these forums..i see that this forum is powered by vBulletin....i'm sure that can be put in place.......with a little modification

It is a public forum....restrictions will cause problems.
That said, mods are pretty good about moving things when needed--let it roll. Sometimes a [req] is needed, as is a [thinktank] that does not involve an attachment.

^ yeah, I agree, but I'm all about trying to improve xda and the mod's are always having to move threads and teach noobs.
maybe just a checkbox you must acknowledge the thread you are creating belongs in the development section... And if people don't obey a disclaimer you may get a time out (can't post for a week or something).

^ I agree with both points. But may I say, we as a community have the responsibility to steer noobs into the right direction. I admit, after being a noob since the development of Nexus One, I didn't know where to go, or what to do with my first android phone. Back then, in cyanogen mod days, there were friendly mods and community, whom helped me. That's why sometimes I still help some noobs, but steer them where to get more info... I don't know, times change, and all forum are cluttered, imo...
Sent from the helm of Vibrant Territory!

The attachment idea would not work only because most dev's are hosting their stuff offsite, unless they attached a change log which at that point anyone could attach a text file if required.
The additional check box acknowledging where and what you are posting might be a reasonable idea if the board's configuration allows it.

rsfaze said:
The attachment idea would not work only because most dev's are hosting their stuff offsite, unless they attached a change log which at that point anyone could attach a text file if required.
The additional check box acknowledging where and what you are posting might be a reasonable idea if the board's configuration allows it.
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I agree. Also, the mods have been excellent abbot moving things and keeping them on topic but they need our help. If you use xda on a computer, please use the report button for threads in the wrong place or trolling.

s15274n said:
So, our development section gets littered with QUESTIONS. This is not where they go. It adds clutter. Just had a thought and was curious if
(a) would it would work and/or be possible
(b) what others thought of it.
Can the mods make it where you are not able to CREATE a thread in the development section unless the OP has an attachment?
EVERY thread in the development section that belongs there has an attachment/download.
EVERY thread that does NOT belong there does NOT have an attachment.
This is something I just thought of and I only glanced over the first page or so but it does appear to be a valid screening process.
Can this type of rule be in place?
I don't like that the developers and their section is littered with requests/noob questions.
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should just lock the threads in development for everyone except the op. This will only allow the op to update their change log and add any answer or solutions from Q&A. It will force people to use Q&A instead of flooding the dev. section. Most importantly, it'll make finding solutions and fixes easy.

^ hmm.. every developer could link to a bugs/discussion thread in the Vibrant General or Q&A section... that COULD work. Not sure if developers would like that or not?

I generally agree with s15274n, but the problem is very few people respond to questions in the Q&A........so people go where there is going to be a better response.........The General and Development sections. Trying to change human nature is difficult....(try looking at a beautiful woman and only think platonic thoughts)
Maybe it there was a way to tag question in the Q & A so the scroll at the top of the Dev section crawled along as new questions were submitted so there more exposure to the questions..........The problem with that is people will not adhere to the format, they will just ignore our requests in Q & A and go along their merry way doing what they do...... maybe we could get everyone to take a proficiency test before logging on ..........kinda like a n0oB i.q.alyzer test

we need more consequences about it, people will post in the development section after being warned, In their mind its okay because nothing will happen. The agreement is a great idea, the op is warned right away so no real explanation will be needed
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iwillkillyou said:
we need more consequences about it, people will post in the development section after being warned, In their mind its okay because nothing will happen. The agreement is a great idea, the op is warned right away so no real explanation will be needed
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This is why I was suggesting that the threads in the dev section should be locked to the devs only. Everyone else can read but not post. The dev can link to q&a for others to post their questions.
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mr2t32 said:
This is why I was suggesting that the threads in the dev section should be locked to the devs only. Everyone else can read but not post. The dev can link to q&a for others to post their questions.
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that would be a good idea but devs still need feedback, leaving it to Q&A will be more chaotic. There ALL those who have questions, joyful comments will come out because its in the right section.
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^ agreed.
i really feel the best idea is a new topic in development requires you to click an acknowledgment saying your thread belongs here, and if not there may be a consequence.
All of this is pointless unless a mod comments though.

We really have a lot of work in moderation.
The idea is good, however we can not deploy yet, but I'm passing on the suggestion for moderation.
Thank you for helping and supporting the XDA!

Sounds good, I know you guys will get it right.

s15274n said:
Sounds good, I know you guys will get it right.
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Nice! They heard your calls, hopely we will get something like that. But wouldn't it affect all of XDA?
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iwillkillyou said:
Nice! They heard your calls, hopely we will get something like that. But wouldn't it affect all of XDA?
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Yes! affect all of Xda, if ok!

Android Q&A forum?

Hi everyone
I think we need an android q&a forum to keep this dev forum clean of spam and repetitive questions that are filling this place.
Does any body have an opinion on this?

bruce2728 said:
Hi everyone
I think we need an android q&a forum to keep this dev forum clean of spam and repetitive questions that are filling this place.
Does any body have an opinion on this?
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I believe it does not help too much since too many people can't seem to read/search the forums anyway. And they will keep on asking the same questions anyway, regardless where they are posed. I believe the non-developers should answer the simple questions so the devs can concentrate on their work.

I agree but if a new dev came along and saw the state of this forum i think they would be a put off joining in.
This is why the devs use skype and irc because this place is a mess

bruce2728 said:
Hi everyone
I think we need an android q&a forum to keep this dev forum clean of spam and repetitive questions that are filling this place.
Does any body have an opinion on this?
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if you're talking about a real forum, with different web address, it's a lot of work.
or maybe you are talking about creating a FAQ page:
if you create it here on the forum, only you will be able to edit it.
but instead, maybe you could create a WIKI page on the photon webpage, and refers to it everytime a n00b ask a question ?
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/w/list
i don't know if you have rights to create wiki page, if you don't, ask me or codiak/tzacapaca/schlund via pm

-r0bin- said:
if you're talking about a real forum, with different web address, it's a lot of work.
or maybe you are talking about creating a FAQ page:
if you create it here on the forum, only you will be able to edit it.
but instead, maybe you could create a WIKI page on the photon webpage, and refers to it everytime a n00b ask a question ?
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/w/list
i don't know if you have rights to create wiki page, if you don't, ask me or codiak/tzacapaca/schlund via pm
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Thanks for your input, I think a faq thread probably the best way to go, I'll put something together and post it tonight.

I think we need a personal moderator to keep threads clear of spamming.....

+1 for Q&A section,i would like to see this forum the same as HD2 one,with different sections for different OS & stuff,maybe then people won't make mess in dev section

I've sent mod a pm to request a sub-forum if he says no I will post a faq thread here, if he says yes i will post it in q&a

bruce2728 said:
I've sent mod a pm to request a sub-forum if he says no I will post a faq thread here, if he says yes i will post it in q&a
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I'm sorry I did not see this until you wrote a comment

15MA1L said:
I'm sorry I did not see this until you wrote a comment
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No problem mate, it was needed anyway

I'm seeing two general sections on main index page but they both link to 'HD MINI General' ????

New Forum Specific Moderator

Hello, I have been assigned as a moderator to the HTC Wildfire.
Please dont hesitate to contact me if you have any issues regarding your stay here in the Wildfire section.
Enjoy

Welcome
Luckily we're more of a quiet and slow community here, except for those few that seem to just think that we're all here for them. (And the pirates)

nejc121 said:
Welcome
Luckily we're more of a quiet and slow community here, except for those few that seem to just think that we're all here for them. (And the pirates)
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That would be the first post to moderate I'd say...
Cheers

Welcome to handle the forum of our sweet little willy

hi and welcome

Welcome, and please be gentle with us

Welcome to the wildfire section, its nice to see a more active moderator appointed to this section.

broncogr said:
Hello, I have been assigned as a moderator to the HTC Wildfire.
Please dont hesitate to contact me if you have any issues regarding your stay here in the Wildfire section.
Enjoy
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hi and welcome. hope you have fun with us all.
ok now please dont take this personal,i am just asking a question out of confusion.... how does xda decide a moderator for a devices forum !! i thought it would make more sense if an active user from the actual wildfire threads was to be come a moderator, now i mean no disrespect but ive not seen you around here ( wildfire ) before ? im in no way saying your not active in other threads but i was under the impression that this was how xda moderators was chosen ?
kindest regards as always slymobi.

Well moderators are not device specific.
Lets say there is a pool of moderators and when the need for moderation for a specific forum arises, then one of us take it.
PS You can see the different forums I moderate in my signature

broncogr said:
Well moderators are not device specific.
Lets say there is a pool of moderators and when the need for moderation for a specific forum arises, then one of us take it.
PS You can see the different forums I moderate in my signature
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As per your signature you seems an experienced and dedicated moderator..We are in hope for your continouos moderatorship for our little community...

broncogr said:
Well moderators are not device specific.
Lets say there is a pool of moderators and when the need for moderation for a specific forum arises, then one of us take it.
PS You can see the different forums I moderate in my signature
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thanks for clearing, i respect all moderators willing to take on the task and time to moderate any forum. like i said, i knew you was active in other forums and totally welome you into willy wilderbeasts forum lol.

Dear moderator! since some servers (like multiuploader) are down please notify to correct all non-working links. thanks

This is not something a moderator does.
You have to contact the devs for them to renew their links.
Either post in their thread or message by pm.
Cheers
ucf4004 said:
Dear moderator! since some servers (like multiuploader) are down please notify to correct all non-working links. thanks
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broncogr said:
This is not something a moderator does.
You have to contact the devs for them to renew their links.
Either post in their thread or message by pm.
Cheers
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well, but almost all of them don't care about that

They don't care because they've moved on, you have to remember that this phone is very old in phone years.
Oh and hello new mod, bout time we got one.
Note to self: must bite tongue harder when dealing with dimwits or face the prospect of being moderated!!

Just a little help to maybe keeps this place cleaner/spam free

Hi guys,
ok, so, recently i have been browsing round the whole of the X8 forum and i think that we all need a little help.
Ok, so i am going to use bullet point everything that i think needs helping/discussing if you know what i mean .
This is NOT a guide. so here goes:
Thread redirection
So, recently, I have seen alot, and i mean ALOT of threads in the wrong sections.
So i am going to try and help you post in the correct sections
If you have a question, then obviously post it on the Q & A section,
but if you have a general question like this then it should be posted in the general section preferably.
BUT, any question related to ROM's, bugs and that kinda stuff, then post it in the Q&A section.
heres some examples: This thread belongs to the General section because it is not a question about the X8's hardware, or a question about ROM's etc its a question about your opinion (i mean, its a question about someones thoughts, who they think is the best developer, and the thread may be for fun ) and another thread that belongs in the general section is this thread.
However, threads that dont belong in the right sections usally get closed by the moderator.
So if you dont want your thread closed, try and follow the rules, by posting in correct sections.
More examples: this thread is a question about a bug (?) and he asked how to fix it. This is a question, but it was in the general section when it should be in the Q&A, and because of that, it got closed.
Well that about concludes that bullet point any questions? reply to this thread
Making threads that already exist
Yeah, most senior members kinda dread this. Now this problem usally comes from n00bs, but sometimes seniors do it.
Please guys! Use the search button! We cant stress how important this is to you. Plus, if you do keep making threads that already exist, then you have broken the XDA rules!
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Yeah, sometimes the search button doesn't work and wont come up with what your looking for, but then you have to Google it! Lets not make the same mistake over and over again eh? lets keep the X8 community SPAM free eh No more 'which ROM is best' threads. cheers guys
Are you new? or are you about to leave the community
So, are you a new member to our community? Or are you about to leave our community?
Well, before you go ahead and post a 'good bye thread', take a look at deedii's threads (thanks deedii )
Here are the links:
Deedii's 'Leaving? Post your farewell message here ' thread
Deedii's 'New Member? Introduce Yourself ' thread
thanks guys, thats kept our community alot cleaner
Trolling and/or Spamming
Ok, we all hate being trolled and our boards Spammed don't we?
Now, recently, i have had someone trolling one of my threads (mentioning no names). I didn't like it much. Now, I had a thought about this recently, and after a long time of thinking, i finally though, instead of saying bad things back, try to encourage them not to troll (good idea or not???). We all want trolls to leave, but instead of telling them to leave, try to encourage them to stay, but be a part of the good community.And spamming, try not to spam, dont post unhelpful things etc. thanks guys, hope we have no more spamming or trolling
So thats about it for now, but once i have more idea's of how to maybe improve things ( ) then i will edit this post. Thanks for your co-operation guys, i hope we become a more spam and troll free place
PLEASE NO trolling or spamming, if your gonna post, please post something constructive or/and nice. Maybe more ideas on how to improve
-wilbso​

Any feedback?
sent from my x8

wilbso said:
Any feedback?
sent from my x8
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Seconded...that ok ?
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Its a good idea but its too long, most people wouldn't be bothered to read it.
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NIMBAH said:
Its a good idea but its too long, most people wouldn't be bothered to read it.
Sent from my E15i using xda premium
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ok, i get your point, but it seems n00bs used to read my guides that went on forever....
And it wasn't really an idea, its just to help clear out future SPAM

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625939
That is what I'm talking about. That's one of the problems!!
sent from my x8

A greeting and a thank-you!

Just wanted to pop in and say g'day, and thanks!
The forums are really helpful (as I found out while lurking) so I decided to sign up and see if I could contribute.
If I'm replying rather copiously, it's because I want to get to 10 posts so I can ask a question in the Dev area
Thanks! :laugh:

capncoolio said:
Just wanted to pop in and say g'day, and thanks!
The forums are really helpful (as I found out while lurking) so I decided to sign up and see if I could contribute.
If I'm replying rather copiously, it's because I want to get to 10 posts so I can ask a question in the Dev area
Thanks! :laugh:
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You are not supposed to start a new thread in development unless you are sharing your work. If you have questions, ask in the q&a section. You can still reply to an existing thread in development.
Sent from my Nexus S

If you wanted to contribute to the forum, you should have thought about making a new thread for this kind of stupidity. Spamming the forum does not contribute in any way.
Sent from my Nexus S

capncoolio said:
Just wanted to pop in and say g'day, and thanks!
The forums are really helpful (as I found out while lurking) so I decided to sign up and see if I could contribute.
If I'm replying rather copiously, it's because I want to get to 10 posts so I can ask a question in the Dev area
Thanks! :laugh:
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Hello. Some people on XDA have a rod shoved up somewhere where the sun don't shine. If you have questions about any thread in the dev forum, try a search of that forum, and ask if you don't find the answer. Posting frequently is alright as long as you're contributing on some level, even for the sake of discussion about a relevant topic in that specific thread. Spam is usually a bad idea
Have fun and welcome to xda!

welcome to the party! please do not create a new thread in the dev section if you're not a dev. and your questions can be asked in the Q&A section. before you ask, make sure you use the search tool thoroughly. double posting is not acceptable here, if you want to, and i highly recommend, read this article: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263 Have a nice time here in xda!