Database Users

Rules for posting in the ba forum! Please read before posting!!!

[highlight]Rules for Posting New Threads in the Blue Angel WM6 Development Section[/highlight]​​
[highlight]Definition and General Purpose of this section:[/highlight]
This section of www.xda-developers.com is for the device code-name Blue Angel by HTC. There exists several name variations of this device which can be located in the wiki. If your device [highlight]DOES NOT[/highlight] have any of the names found in the link above, then you are in the wrong section of the forum. You can find your device here. If your device is not listed in there, then you are in the wrong site altogether. However, your questions might be answered by posting them in the Q&A area.
The purpose of this forum is for the development and advancement of a device that was left 4 dead too soon. While questions are welcome, we require all members of all statuses to use either Google or the site's Search Engine before opening a new thread or making a post.
[highlight]Who Should Open New Threads?[/highlight]
Anyone making any type of contribution towards the Blue Angel (i.e. New Roms, New Software, Ports, Skins, etc).
If you are questioning why can something not be used in the Blue Angel, [highlight]Do Not Open A New Thread Asking For It.[/highlight] More than likely, that question/request has either been asked here, in the Development and Hacking Section, in the Questions and Answers Section, in the General Section.... you get my point. This takes me back to a point that I want to make absolutely clear.... [highlight]search before you ask.[/highlight]
An example of this that comes to mind is the "My 4/8/16/32 GB SD does not work with the Blue Angel" or "I applied the patch I found in the Dev&Hacking section and now my SD/my wireless does not work"
Most of us are always searching for things, stuff, and/or patches that will make the latest softwares run in our devices. If, for instance, you want to find out if TF3D works in the BA or not... you gotta search!!! If you want to find out why it doesn't run, search and then read (or ask in the Q&A section). Believe me, all of these answers are out there in this site.
The next post is equally as important... so please don't skip it!!

Flaming and Courtesy (taken from Tweakman's Thread)
FLAMING & ARGUING RULES
MUST READ ENTIRE POST
Attention All XDA members. Over the past year, "Flaming" & Arguing has become two of the biggest problems on XDA. For those of you that do not know what "Flaming" is, it is unnessicary, immature, criticizm of another member, for mistakes, "noob" questions, or any other reason.
THIS NOW HAS TO STOP.
"Flaming" another user for a mistake, such as posting in the wrong section, or asking a noob type question, will no longer be tolerated. ANY MEMBER (OF ANY STATUS) CAUGHT FLAMING ANOTHER MEMBER FOR ANY REASON, WILL BE SUBJECT TO DISCIPLINARY ACTION. This just will not be tolerated guys and gals. XDA isn't here for only tech savy members, but for members of all types, Noobs included.
Anyone can make a mistake. Anyone can post in the wrong section if there new here, or even if they've been here a while. THATS WHY WE HAVE POLICIEIS FOR THESE MISTAKES. Over the past few months, we have worked out ways upon ways to help people stop posting in the wrong section, and to help make asking questions easier. "FLAMING" does not speed this process up, or help it in anyway, but only adds to the problem.
Now , about Arguing with other members. We sometimes get members that come here just to start problems. They will post untrue comments, or make ridiculous statements, only in the attempt to start fights and trouble. And most of the time they succeed.
THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED EITHER. If a member says something to you, or in a thread , that isn't true, or if a member is trying to start an argument ro trouble, DO NOT TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO ARGUE WITH THAT PERSON!! You setting an arguing with another member, will not solve any problems, but instead will only cause more.
If you are in a thread, arguing with someone , other members will join in, and the thread will eventually become cluttered up and of topic. The person starting the trouble gets what they want, and nothing ever is resolved. So instead of taking it upon yourself to argue with them, come straight to me, or to any moderator on this site, and report that member to us.
We will check things out and take the appropriate actions. However, if you are caught arguing back and forth with another member, for an off related subject in any thread, you will be held accountable and responsible just as the other member will NO MATTER WHO STARTS THE ARGUMENT.
Come on guys, XDA wasn't made to argue, and to start trouble with people. It's here to help you and me get what we want out of our devices. AND THATS WHAT IT WILL BE USED FOR. You all have done great witht he recent changes to different sections, and threads, and the improvments to D&H Are amazing. If you can do that, you can do this without any trouble.
So lets give it a shot guys. I mean come one, "Can't we all just get along"

i have read it and yes!
great utopy men!
Keep the good work!

Thank you for creating this Egz...it's about time to put some order here on our BA section. And about time to have a new moderator for BA Thread.
Can't we all just get along
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Tottaly Agree With These Rules
And a little suggestion for addition to the rules, our good admins added the rating feature for a reason - so al of the users who want to thank a thread just rate for it with the amount of stars you think it deserve
thanks posts are about at least 50% of all posts in these forums

You got my vote for excellence my friend. Now lets all follow them rules and enjoy a smother, friendlier community.

i have read it and yes!
This forum is our home, and the second-serves all...
and all the love and thanks to the owners and observers and members .
And special thanks to the developer (xplode)It is worth it..

My unconditional support to this forum!!!!!

xplode said:
And a little suggestion for addition to the rules, our good admins added the rating feature for a reason - so al of the users who want to thank a thread just rate for it with the amount of stars you think it deserve
thanks posts are about at least 50% of all posts in these forums
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
totally agreed.

i fully agree with u
hi all
im fully agree with u,and im with xplode suggestion about rating,and i have another suggestion,in some sites in any thread there is a(thnaks)bottun in any thread,if the reader wants to thank,he will press this bottun and his name will appeare in the end of subject owner and thats all,the posts should be focus on the subject(problems and the ways to solve it or any useful idea for BA).
i will share a picture to know my idea

People who put in endless efforts expects thanks and appreciations whereas the common users want more and more and forget the untold efforts of contributors.

April 1 said:
People who put in endless efforts expects thanks and appreciations whereas the common users want more and more and forget the untold efforts of contributors.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And possibly a donation specially from those who make the special requests to have software developed to their taste and comfort. So I will add that to the suggestion of voting... I've seen where some folks say.... Hey ILoveYou, I really love your software, I wish it'll have LOVE and TENDERNESS. I'm sending a donation for your efforts into future development. (In other words... ) I'm sure you all understand what that donation meant and that there are great chances that if its possible, the love will be given.
Have a lovely day friends.

egzthunder1 said:
FLAMING & ARGUING RULES
MUST READ ENTIRE POST
Attention All XDA members. Over the past year, "Flaming" & Arguing has become two of the biggest problems on XDA. For those of you that do not know what "Flaming" is, it is unnessicary, immature, criticizm of another 。。。。。。"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
XDA-DEV-BlueAngel是个家，和谐靠大家！不引起不必要的争论

[Q] Why the new users cant able to reply the threads.

Why like this.

digitalsuni said:
Why like this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because some new users just spam in the threads then. The purpose of it is so that new members get acquainted with the rules and don't spam.

sooooo new users should first spam other threads to be able to post at dev section

SpyderX said:
Because some new users just spam in the threads then. The purpose of it is so that new members get acquainted with the rules and don't spam.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trust me... it doesn't work as it should... the will to spam is unbeatable...

Indeed, Spam is invincible... BTW, i have 13 post and still unable to post in dev section :S

To prevent spam, floods, trolls and threads like these on dev's area. Call it "learning time".

to lessened posts like yours
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921591
You are posting to wrong thead..

so mean new user need spam on Q&A first... hehe

No. See what happened to a certain user. Spammed tanx........... everywhere, boom! BAN. Newcomers can make everyone's life easier by just not spamming and following rules. Spam anywhere, get an infraction. But dev forum is the most important forum, so to prevent devs ragequitting, a protection against newbies should be put in place. Life on xda is simple. Just follow rules and don't spam.
Quality > quantity

SpyderX said:
No. See what happened to a certain user. Spammed tanx........... everywhere, boom! BAN. Newcomers can make everyone's life easier by just not spamming and following rules. Spam anywhere, get an infraction. But dev forum is the most important forum, so to prevent devs ragequitting, a protection against newbies should be put in place. Life on xda is simple. Just follow rules and don't spam.
Quality > quantity
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
city-gsm?.........

velnens123 said:
city-gsm?.........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well............... yeah. And don't forget vixkes. Rotflol.

New to posting but not new to the site.
I've been using the dev threads now for a few months. I have been playing around with SD ROMs for my HD2 and this site is unquestionably brilliant. One of the ROMS I found works great. Two things, 1. a senior member posted that he was getting the same problem I had which I solved and wanted to help him. and 2. USB tethering isn't working in this ROM. Just wanted to ask. But can't help 1 and can't post a question for 2 to these really great developers because I haven't been here long enough...I have zero intention of spamming and will look for solutions to the tethering problem. I just want to help. So what do I need to do to become a safe and sane XDA member without offending anyone or spamming just to get past the 10 post barrier?

Marshallsc said:
I've been using the dev threads now for a few months. I have been playing around with SD ROMs for my HD2 and this site is unquestionably brilliant. One of the ROMS I found works great. Two things, 1. a senior member posted that he was getting the same problem I had which I solved and wanted to help him. and 2. USB tethering isn't working in this ROM. Just wanted to ask. But can't help 1 and can't post a question for 2 to these really great developers because I haven't been here long enough...I have zero intention of spamming and will look for solutions to the tethering problem. I just want to help. So what do I need to do to become a safe and sane XDA member without offending anyone or spamming just to get past the 10 post barrier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Easy. Just try out stuff or offer your view on something but WITHOUT posting pointlessly. Have fun on XDA .

Just a little help to maybe keeps this place cleaner/spam free

Hi guys,
ok, so, recently i have been browsing round the whole of the X8 forum and i think that we all need a little help.
Ok, so i am going to use bullet point everything that i think needs helping/discussing if you know what i mean .
This is NOT a guide. so here goes:
Thread redirection
So, recently, I have seen alot, and i mean ALOT of threads in the wrong sections.
So i am going to try and help you post in the correct sections
If you have a question, then obviously post it on the Q & A section,
but if you have a general question like this then it should be posted in the general section preferably.
BUT, any question related to ROM's, bugs and that kinda stuff, then post it in the Q&A section.
heres some examples: This thread belongs to the General section because it is not a question about the X8's hardware, or a question about ROM's etc its a question about your opinion (i mean, its a question about someones thoughts, who they think is the best developer, and the thread may be for fun ) and another thread that belongs in the general section is this thread.
However, threads that dont belong in the right sections usally get closed by the moderator.
So if you dont want your thread closed, try and follow the rules, by posting in correct sections.
More examples: this thread is a question about a bug (?) and he asked how to fix it. This is a question, but it was in the general section when it should be in the Q&A, and because of that, it got closed.
Well that about concludes that bullet point any questions? reply to this thread
Making threads that already exist
Yeah, most senior members kinda dread this. Now this problem usally comes from n00bs, but sometimes seniors do it.
Please guys! Use the search button! We cant stress how important this is to you. Plus, if you do keep making threads that already exist, then you have broken the XDA rules!
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, sometimes the search button doesn't work and wont come up with what your looking for, but then you have to Google it! Lets not make the same mistake over and over again eh? lets keep the X8 community SPAM free eh No more 'which ROM is best' threads. cheers guys
Are you new? or are you about to leave the community
So, are you a new member to our community? Or are you about to leave our community?
Well, before you go ahead and post a 'good bye thread', take a look at deedii's threads (thanks deedii )
Here are the links:
Deedii's 'Leaving? Post your farewell message here ' thread
Deedii's 'New Member? Introduce Yourself ' thread
thanks guys, thats kept our community alot cleaner
Trolling and/or Spamming
Ok, we all hate being trolled and our boards Spammed don't we?
Now, recently, i have had someone trolling one of my threads (mentioning no names). I didn't like it much. Now, I had a thought about this recently, and after a long time of thinking, i finally though, instead of saying bad things back, try to encourage them not to troll (good idea or not???). We all want trolls to leave, but instead of telling them to leave, try to encourage them to stay, but be a part of the good community.And spamming, try not to spam, dont post unhelpful things etc. thanks guys, hope we have no more spamming or trolling
So thats about it for now, but once i have more idea's of how to maybe improve things ( ) then i will edit this post. Thanks for your co-operation guys, i hope we become a more spam and troll free place
PLEASE NO trolling or spamming, if your gonna post, please post something constructive or/and nice. Maybe more ideas on how to improve
-wilbso​

Any feedback?
sent from my x8

wilbso said:
Any feedback?
sent from my x8
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seconded...that ok ?
Sent from my X8 using Tapatalk

Its a good idea but its too long, most people wouldn't be bothered to read it.
Sent from my E15i using xda premium

NIMBAH said:
Its a good idea but its too long, most people wouldn't be bothered to read it.
Sent from my E15i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok, i get your point, but it seems n00bs used to read my guides that went on forever....
And it wasn't really an idea, its just to help clear out future SPAM

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625939
That is what I'm talking about. That's one of the problems!!
sent from my x8

New Forum Moderators

Hi
My name is Tom and I'm one of the new moderators here. I like post-rock music, cooking and ROM making. If you have some issues/questions, please PM me and I'm sure we'll find a solution.
Some rules:
0. Follow the rules.
1. Post in the correct section
2. Respect each other
3. Report when you'll see some abusive posts.
See you soon

Hi, I'm Kenny and I like long walks on the beach......what? Oh, it's not that kind of intro? Oh OK.
Well hi all I have the distinct honor of sharing the Moderator roll here and hope to help keep this new forum fun for all.
I am honored to be your Friendly Neighborhood Moderator.
To keep me friendly though please do not get into flaming matches. If someone is disrespectful please mash the report button rather than engage them further. In other words don't feed the trolls.
Also please post questions in Q&A. Those are the biggies.
I have put out a few themes and ROMs for the Epic 4G so know what it is like from the developer side. So please respect the developers. Without them xda-developers would be xda-facebook or something.
Thank you all!
FNM

Hi everyone,my name is Tasos and i have been assigned to be your new Forum Moderator along with Tom and Kenny.
If you have any problems don't hesitate to pm me siberian tiger
And don't forget the rules
Please review the rules and lets keep XDA the best place for fellowship and development.
And remember we are all here to have fun

This thread can now be used as a "Ask a moderator" thread. You can post your questions, concerns here. We will gladly help

Welcome aboard
Any news on future development for this device? Is this device a world seller?

goodmamba said:
Welcome aboard
Any news on future development for this device? Is this device a world seller?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome
Just give Chainfire or some other developer some time to root this device. As it's Samsung, rooting it shouldn't be too difficult (I guess )
And yes, you can buy SIII Mini almost everywhere.

I was wondering if the rooting will allow cell unlock.
I am asking this to know what to do: wait for root or go to a Samsung service for cell unlock.

root will not unlock the device, but I wish some great devs will developing for this S3 mini, wich is a very great phone imho

Hello all,
I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm graffixnyc and I have recently been assigned to help moderate the forum. If you guys have any issues please do not hesitate to let me know. As always, please follow the rules and treat each other with respect.

as much as i would like to believe that the rules follow some logical flow and understanding and are in place due to experience and historical events that have taken place on the XDA forums
i have a small issue with the rule of not being able to post in the developer section until having made 10 posts
from my experience in doing some small dev work i would not want to be harassed directly for help with a solution that i provided
i would not want to be getting several PM's asking the same question from several different people all because they were not able to post their question on the thread where i provided the solution
since we are unable to post in a thread our questions or suggestions that leaves only one place to be able to post, the Q&A section
leading to the risk of multiple duplicate posts and resulting in more work for the moderators to clean up
what would be the correct way to get around this issue whilst still following the rules?

Official forum help.

Ok, so something weird happened today. For some reason, I've been banned from the official forums for "spam". The notice says to contact a forum admin, but there isn't any way to do so. I have never posted any spam so I'm not sure why this happened. If an admin from the official forum sees this or if someone would please contact an admin, I would like to discuss and appeal this. Thank you.

ZiQn3zZ said:
Ok, so something weird happened today. For some reason, I've been banned from the official forums for "spam". The notice says to contact a forum admin, but there isn't any way to do so. I have never posted any spam so I'm not sure why this happened. If an admin from the official forum sees this or if someone would please contact an admin, I would like to discuss and appeal this. Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi I just read this message, you can't be banned or you wouldn't be able to post this. If you can forward any email/message you got then I will look at it for you
Regards
Sawdoctor

sawdoctor said:
Hi I just read this message, you can't be banned or you wouldn't be able to post this. If you can forward any email/message you got then I will look at it for you
Regards
Sawdoctor
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not banned from XDA. I'm banned from the Official Phoenix OS Forum. But, their forum is a bit lower quality than XDA. There's always spam bots posting things about medications, women, travel trips, stuff in Russian, etc. As I said above, I wouldn't ask here at all, but even though the message says to contact their forum admin, they have no such way to do so.

ZiQn3zZ said:
I'm not banned from XDA. I'm banned from the Official Phoenix OS Forum. But, their forum is a bit lower quality than XDA. There's always spam bots posting things about medications, women, travel trips, stuff in Russian, etc. As I said above, I wouldn't ask here at all, but even though the message says to contact their forum admin, they have no such way to do so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you should have said so ... other forum registrations / bans / issues aren`t our area of interest though you may be able to find someone to guide or advice you
Thread moved to this q&a section now , this doesn`t belong to Miscellaneous Android Development
Thanks for understanding
Dan

If you read the OP, I did say so. I started this topic in the correct forum. This is the only other place that some of the users/mods of Phoenix OS use besides the official forums. Therefore, it's the only place such an issue would be seen and sent to the correct people. Please, move this topic back to where it was.

ZiQn3zZ said:
If you read the OP, I did say so. I started this topic in the correct forum. This is the only other place that some of the users/mods of Phoenix OS use besides the official forums. Therefore, it's the only place such an issue would be seen and sent to the correct people. Please, move this topic back to where it was.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This threads turns out to a "who's right and who's wrong" thread and becomes useless
Again, you did not mention on your first post which forum you seemed to be banned, you said "official forum" and we thought you were talking about xda official forum not that external website where, read what I've said above
And second, Miscellaneous Android development is NOT the correct place here on XDA to post questions /issues whatever because you think it is more visible , this is the place
I might also remove the link from your post as the xda rules does not allow advertising or encouraging the users to participate or whatever on external websites for mobile phones
If this discussion derails more than has been already happening , can be easily closed as irrelevant for the XDA's forum topics
You may use the pm function for further concerns
Thank you